Russian internet trolls are trained to spread propaganda in three-person teams
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Hi, guys. Haven't posted in a while.
The Russian trolls here, as you are aware, have specific propaganda points they're paid to spew. This article just explains how some of them work.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-internet-trolls-are-trained-to
-spread-propaganda-in-three-person-teams-2015-3?utm_source=reddit.com
This is more about Russia's internal propaganda program, as opposed to the Russian propaganda spewed here in a mostly-US forum, but it's similar.
So, how can you tell a Russian troll from a simple dimwit in the US?
We've got Siggy, Kiki and JSF, obvious Russian trolls, then there are the simpleton native neo-Nazis like Jack, who aren't smart enough to know they're being scammed.
Whether they're aware of it or not, the simpletons' worldviews are shaped by Russian trolls as much as they are by the fascist propaganda sources they constantly read and listen to. They're lied to by many sources.
There's no reasoning with people whose only purpose is to misinform, but what about the dumb people who fall for it? Can they be disabused of their fake fantasy world?
Not usually. Even if they saw Trump convicted of treason and jailed, they'd have a conspiracy about the "deep state" and the (((Joos))) and Soros and Hillary and Obama and...
Well, you get it.
These are people who think God elected Trump, and that climate change is an elaborate hoax. They just aren't very good thinkers, and they're comfortable with their delusions. Admitting they're wrong is more than they're capable of.
It falls on us, then, to do what's right in spite of the brainwashed 30%.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Hi, guys. Haven't posted in a while.
The Russian trolls here, as you are aware, have specific propaganda points they're paid to spew. This article just explains how some of them work.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-internet-trolls-are-trained-to
-spread-propaganda-in-three-person-teams-2015-3?utm_source=reddit.com
This is more about Russia's internal propaganda program, as opposed to the Russian propaganda spewed here in a mostly-US forum, but it's similar.
So, how can you tell a Russian troll from a simple dimwit in the US?
We've got Siggy, Kiki and JSF, obvious Russian trolls, then there are the simpleton native neo-Nazis like Jack, who aren't smart enough to know they're being scammed.
Whether they're aware of it or not, the simpletons' worldviews are shaped by Russian trolls as much as they are by the fascist propaganda sources they constantly read and listen to. They're lied to by many sources.
There's no reasoning with people whose only purpose is to misinform, but what about the dumb people who fall for it? Can they be disabused of their fake fantasy world?
Not usually. Even if they saw Trump convicted of treason and jailed, they'd have a conspiracy about the "deep state" and the (((Joos))) and Soros and Hillary and Obama and...
Well, you get it.
These are people who think God elected Trump, and that climate change is an elaborate hoax. They just aren't very good thinkers, and they're comfortable with their delusions. Admitting they're wrong is more than they're capable of.
It falls on us, then, to do what's right in spite of the brainwashed 30%.
^ I won’t believe any of that until I read it at Zerohedge.
I love how we went from, “Mexico will pay for the wall!” to, “I’ll shut down our own government if I don’t get my wall!” This f@cking guy...
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Go back into hiding you Antifa piece of shit. Even CNN is calling you a left wing violent fringe group.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Go back into hiding you Antifa piece of shit. Even CNN is calling you a left wing violent fringe group.
I serched the entire CNN output for this yir.
No mention uv reaverfan at all. Plus, your statement makes no sens to begin with - reaverfan iz an individual, not a group.
And therez that anti fa thing agen! Wuts with you man? Fa haz it coming after all the crap its been spewing!
The only sens I can make out uv your post iz that Reaverz are a violent group living on the frinj uv the Verse, but thats clearly not wut you wer tokking about.
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1st paragraf frum the article:
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Employees at Russia's Internet Research center work for 12 hours a day in 3-person "teams" spreading Kremlin propaganda online, acccording to a former employee interviewed by Radio Free Europe.
Odd typo makes it thru! All hail the NQaLF REVOLQsUN!
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Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Go back into hiding you Antifa piece of shit. Even CNN is calling you a left wing violent fringe group.
I serched the entire CNN output for this yir.
No mention uv reaverfan at all. Plus, your statement makes no sens to begin with - reaverfan iz an individual, not a group.
And therez that anti fa thing agen! Wuts with you man? Fa haz it coming after all the crap its been spewing!
The only sens I can make out uv your post iz that Reaverz are a violent group living on the frinj uv the Verse, but thats clearly not wut you wer tokking about.
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Reaverfan has never hidden the fact that he's Antifa.
Why don't you try looking up Antifa on CNN instead of reaverfan, that way you don't have to further waste either of our time with your idiocy.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Hi, guys. Haven't posted in a while.
The Russian trolls here, as you are aware, have specific propaganda points they're paid to spew. This article just explains how some of them work.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-internet-trolls-are-trained-to
-spread-propaganda-in-three-person-teams-2015-3?utm_source=reddit.com
This is more about Russia's internal propaganda program, as opposed to the Russian propaganda spewed here in a mostly-US forum, but it's similar.
So, how can you tell a Russian troll from a simple dimwit in the US?
We've got Siggy, Kiki and JSF, obvious Russian trolls, then there are the simpleton native neo-Nazis like Jack, who aren't smart enough to know they're being scammed.
Whether they're aware of it or not, the simpletons' worldviews are shaped by Russian trolls as much as they are by the fascist propaganda sources they constantly read and listen to. They're lied to by many sources.
There's no reasoning with people whose only purpose is to misinform, but what about the dumb people who fall for it? Can they be disabused of their fake fantasy world?
Not usually. Even if they saw Trump convicted of treason and jailed, they'd have a conspiracy about the "deep state" and the (((Joos))) and Soros and Hillary and Obama and...
Well, you get it.
These are people who think God elected Trump, and that climate change is an elaborate hoax. They just aren't very good thinkers, and they're comfortable with their delusions. Admitting they're wrong is more than they're capable of.
It falls on us, then, to do what's right in spite of the brainwashed 30%.
RF - been noticing that here as well. I'll see a talking point floated elsewhere on the web and then I'll see it here. I guess we have some people who are insiders, maybe?
Another "guidance for idiots"
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Yep, we have three of our own. Comrades Sig kiki and jack.
T 
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I'm a Nazi, idiot. I can't be Russian.
Read a book.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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kiki and others SECOND keep saying no collusion because as you point out, as I, G and others have said before, collusion itself is not a chargeable offense. And, as you, I, G and others have also pointed out, the actual charges may include conspiracy, obstruction, money laundering, campaign finance violations, bank fraud and the list goes on. Hell, we could even see the RICO act enacted.
We've seen as many as 36 or so indicted with guilty pleas and jail time in Mueller's attempt to clean house. Comrade kiki and her few cronies post as though none of that reflects back onto Trump. He is now being investigated up the yazoo and the democrats haven't even started yet. This doesn't even include his corrupt cabinet members.
Trump has trashed our intelligence agencies, our justice department, the FBI and so on. Can you blame them for wanting to expose Trump as being the crook.
T
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Democrats haven't even started yet, huh?
It's been two years, and tons of constant re-affirmations for you clowns that Trump is going to go down on an almost daily basis.
Your boy Macron seems to be doing a hell of a lot worse right now.
https://punchng.com/macrons-ratings-fall-further-after-month-of-protes
ts/
I believe your words were something along the lines of "the good guys won" and you expressed your thanks towards the people of France.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Thankfully, REAVERFAN has managed to collect all of this idiocy into one conveniently-labeled thread.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Hi, guys. Haven't posted in a while.
The Russian trolls here, as you are aware, have specific propaganda points they're paid to spew. This article just explains how some of them work.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-internet-trolls-are-trained-to
-spread-propaganda-in-three-person-teams-2015-3?utm_source=reddit.com
This is more about Russia's internal propaganda program, as opposed to the Russian propaganda spewed here in a mostly-US forum, but it's similar.
So, how can you tell a Russian troll from a simple dimwit in the US?
We've got Siggy, Kiki and JSF, obvious Russian trolls, then there are the simpleton native neo-Nazis like Jack, who aren't smart enough to know they're being scammed.
Whether they're aware of it or not, the simpletons' worldviews are shaped by Russian trolls as much as they are by the fascist propaganda sources they constantly read and listen to. They're lied to by many sources.
There's no reasoning with people whose only purpose is to misinform, but what about the dumb people who fall for it? Can they be disabused of their fake fantasy world?
Not usually. Even if they saw Trump convicted of treason and jailed, they'd have a conspiracy about the "deep state" and the (((Joos))) and Soros and Hillary and Obama and...
Well, you get it.
These are people who think God elected Trump, and that climate change is an elaborate hoax. They just aren't very good thinkers, and they're comfortable with their delusions. Admitting they're wrong is more than they're capable of.
It falls on us, then, to do what's right in spite of the brainwashed 30%.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by THG:
Yep, we have three of our own. Comrades Sig kiki and jack.
T
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Those 3-person teams?
We have an obvious one here on FFF.net.
Which three people post personal attacks almost exclusively? Which three people meet the general internet definition of "troll"? Which three people have libeled and bullied other posters as the near-exclusive content of their posts?
Which three people have revealed NOTHING of their general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history?
I can picture THEM sitting in some troll farm just outside of DC, banging out pro-deep-state attacks against anyone who points out its existence.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Quote:"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters." - Trump
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Those 3-person teams?
We have an obvious one here on FFF.net.
Which three people post personal attacks almost exclusively? Which three people meet the general internet definition of "troll"? Which three people have libeled and bullied other posters as the near-exclusive content of their posts? Which three people have revealed almost NOTHING of their personal history?
What I see here is a desperate attempt to bury inconvenient facts with ad-hominem, strawmanning, libelous personal attacks. I can picture them sitting in some troll farm just outside of DC, banging out pro-deep-state attacks against anyone who points out its existence.
It makes no difference what Trump does, he won’t be convicted of anything while he is President, with one exception: Trump shooting Mitch McConnell in front of the entire Senate might get Trump removed from office, but if Trump shot Senator Ted Cruz, the Senate would be okay with it.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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SECOND, what does that have to do with anything in this thread? WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU ENDLESSLY SPEW ANTI-TRUMP POSTS NONSTOP, and (presumably) antiSIGNY, antiKIKI, antiSIX posts because you IMAGINE that we are those "Trump supporters" who would stand behind him under any circumstances.
I have NEVER said that Trump is smart, or good, or even stable. I have called him a "loose cannon" many, many times ... maybe you didn't think that through? Maybe you didn't realize that I knew what that meant, and that I meant what I said? Morally, I put him only slightly behind Hillary in terms of corruption, simply because he didn't have years in office to practice corruption - like Hillary and Bill did. I've posted that as well. Meanwhile you endlessly tell us how you hate Americans and democracy.
So thanks for YOUR effort to bury inconvenient facts.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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The nuts are loose again.
T
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
The nuts are loose again.
T
Yes, I noticed.
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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Those 3-person teams?
We have an obvious one here on FFF.net.
Which three people post personal attacks almost exclusively? Which three people meet the general internet definition of "troll"? Which three people have libeled and bullied other posters as the near-exclusive content of their posts?
Which three people have revealed NOTHING of their general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history?
I can picture THEM sitting in some troll farm just outside of DC, banging out pro-deep-state attacks against anyone who points out its existence.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Which three people have revealed NOTHING of their general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history?
JSF, Kiki, Whozit. And why do you want to know, Miss big nosey?
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Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ...
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ...
Yeah we know. Hence the name of the thread comrade.
T
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Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ... -SIGNY
Yeah we know. Hence the name of the thread comrade. -THUGR
I know about KIKI and JSF from their posts. But you're another one of those posters who have revealed almost nothing of themselves. Why is that, comrade?
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Those 3-person teams?
We have an obvious one here on FFF.net.
Which three people post personal attacks almost exclusively? Which three people meet the general internet definition of "troll"? Which three people have libeled and bullied other posters as the near-exclusive content of their posts?
Which three people have revealed NOTHING of their general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history?
I can picture THEM sitting in some troll farm just outside of DC, banging out pro-deep-state attacks against anyone who points out its existence.
-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
Yup. The OP wears literal masks in real life.
T and G have no personality outside of their hatred for Trump and general malignancy. It seems they have little to do with life other than follow others who share their feelings.
All three of them are unable to make a post without
A) posting about Trump.
B) insulting somebody else here.
C) both of the above.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Ah, is someone feeling sorry for themselves again?
T
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lol. No.
Just laughing about how clueless you ultralibs in here are.
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BTW, I see the Three Caballeros have all showed up for their very own thread!
Way to go, guys! Next time, try to keep SOME level of separation if you want to seem like independent actors.
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Russia’s Pro-Trump Campaign Used Every Major Social Media Platform
“All of the messaging clearly sought to benefit the Republican Party — and specifically Donald Trump,” notes the report that will be released later this week.
The Washington Post got its hands on the study compiled for the Senate Intelligence Committee that describes in detail Russia’s extensive efforts to help get President Donald Trump elected.
The report was carried out by Oxford University’s Computational Propaganda Project and network analysis firm Graphika.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/12/russias-pro-trump-disinfor
mation-campaign-used-every-major-social-media-platform.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ...
Really?? You know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???
Do tell!
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All three of them are unable to make a post without
A) posting about Trump.
B) insulting somebody else here.
C) both of the above.
It's great to see that you continue to be wrong all the time.
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I see it az they are just doing their job, so dont get mean about it. Life woud be boring without conflict. This forum iz no exeption.
Watch the old Get Smart showz. Control vs Kaos.
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Originally posted by JO753:
I see it az they are just doing their job, so dont get mean about it. Life woud be boring without conflict. This forum iz no exeption.
Watch the old Get Smart showz. Control vs Kaos.
I believe one of the greatest joys of Life is in the pursuit of greater Knowledge and Understanding, and you can never have that without the Truth. It's like a mathematical problem in which you can never find the correct answer if you lie/fudge the numbers over and over. You end up going no where. Life's too short to lie (for some of us) and understand nothing. Why do it? Trump is the greatest affront to Truth, Progress and Understanding that we have ever had in this country imho. The only saving grace is to see so many people react and reject him and his idiot followers, and take actions to get rid of him. Yes, that sounds a bit pompous and silly but I believe it anyway.
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It's comical how delusional you guys are.
What I don't get is that JO is actually a extremely smart guy, and we used to get along great many years back.
I can't figure out why somebody as intelligent as he is has drank so much of the KoolAid that he actually believes that I'm a Russian Bot now.
Dude. Stop watching CNN/MSNBC so much. If you look at my Russia! Russia! Russia! thread, you'll see a download link to Gallup and a poll that came out in June of this year that shows that less than 1% of the people in this country are buying into the Russian propaganda.
That means, pretty much only the people who watch those "news" networks every night are the ones who give it any thought at all.
You're not "enlightened". You're one of the very small demographic in the country who's being manipulated by people who are telling you what you want to hear because you hate Trump so much.
All that ad revenue you guys are allowing them to pull in is paying those ungodly salaries those idiot talking heads make.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Where I am from, the Texans who approve of Trump are passionate believers in their falsehoods, the untruths being sold by Trump such as there need be nothing done about the greenhouse gas effect, for example. Trump approval runs at 43% across the country, much higher in Texas.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
I see it az they are just doing their job, so dont get mean about it. Life woud be boring without conflict. This forum iz no exeption.
Watch the old Get Smart showz. Control vs Kaos.
I believe one of the greatest joys of Life is in the pursuit of greater Knowledge and Understanding, and you can never have that without the Truth. It's like a mathematical problem in which you can never find the correct answer if you lie/fudge the numbers over and over. You end up going no where. Life's too short to lie (for some of us) and understand nothing. Why do it? Trump is the greatest affront to Truth, Progress and Understanding that we have ever had in this country imho. The only saving grace is to see so many people react and reject him and his idiot followers, and take actions to get rid of him. Yes, that sounds a bit pompous and silly but I believe it anyway.
Opposed (fight is too strong and energetic a word) to falsehoods of that fiery 43% are a bunch of "don't knows" and "luke-warms", most who aren't particularly passionate about truth nor will they fight against the nonsense and lies of the fiery 43%. I think the fiery 43% will have their way because they have excellent attendance at elections, while their opposition remain lukewarm about voting, at least for most elections.
America is as unstable as a canoe and that 43%, strong believers in falsehoods, is more than enough to capsize America and dump all of us into the water. And they won't become truth believers and seekers after Trump. They will find another liar to support.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Senate report finds millions of social media posts by Russians aimed at helping Trump, GOP
WASHINGTON – The Senate released Monday a pair of reports that found Russia engaged in an all-out social media campaign on Donald Trump's behalf during the 2016 election and continued to support him after he took office.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/17/russia-social-
media-senate-report/2334382002/
tick tock
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Quote:The bad part is NOT that Putin helped Trump. Trump voters could truthfully say that he has no control over Russians. The bad part is that Trump lied his head off about his connections to Putin, connections that Putin could use against Trump, if the connections ever became known. Mueller’s Office is now investigating the hypothesis that Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates participated in a massive election fraud, through five interlocking conspiracies — arguably the worst set of crimes against the United States in its history. It’s been obvious that Donald Trump has been acting in a weird way towards America’s adversary, Russia. But until recently, the miscellaneous bits and pieces of the Trump-Russia jigsaw puzzle didn’t fit together in any coherent way.
Originally posted by THG:
Senate report finds millions of social media posts by Russians aimed at helping Trump, GOP
WASHINGTON – The Senate released Monday a pair of reports that found Russia engaged in an all-out social media campaign on Donald Trump's behalf during the 2016 election and continued to support him after he took office.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/17/russia-social-
media-senate-report/2334382002/
tick tock
T
More at www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2018/12/16/mueller-exposes-putins-ho
ld-over-trump/#f32ba0a48f68
Trump voters won't believe it, at least not until Vladimir Putin is sworn in as a witness at Trump's trial. Who thinks Putin can be subpoenaed? Putin will never testify and so Trump voters will never believe in Trump's election fraud. But Putin might make a public statement from Moscow about helping Trump. Trump does not want that to happen. He will try to do whatever it takes to keep Putin from ratting on Trump.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Russian Effort to Influence 2016 Election Targeted African-Americans
The Russian influence campaign on social media in the 2016 election made an extraordinary effort to target African-Americans, used an array of tactics to try to suppress turnout among Democratic voters and unleashed a blizzard of posts on Instagram that rivaled or exceeded its Facebook operations, according to a report produced for the Senate Intelligence Committee.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russian-effort-to-influence-20
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Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ... - SIGNY
Really?? You know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???
Do tell!- GSTRING
Perhaps reading with comprehension is not your strong suit? I answered that already ...
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I know about KIKI and JSF from their posts. But you're another one of those posters who have revealed almost nothing of themselves. Why is that, comrade?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Actually, I know more about JSF and KIKI than I do about you. So ... - SIGNY
Really?? You know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???
Do tell!- GSTRING
Perhaps reading with comprehension is not your strong suit? I answered that already ...Quote:
I know about KIKI and JSF from their posts. But you're another one of those posters who have revealed almost nothing of themselves. Why is that, comrade?
I'm just suppose to believe you because you say so? Sorry toots, that's not enough. I have learned a great deal from your posts as well: you're consistently full of sh*t.
You know him so well, what do you know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???
And don't think I'm not guessing you are waiting for a PM from him to inform you so you can cya.
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Quote:No, you're supposed to read their posts and remember what they posted about themselves. If you didn't or you can't, that's your problem.
I'm just suppose to believe you because you say so?- GSTRING
Yanno, we DO chat about things in other threads. Maybe if you stopped being a deep state troll and got your ideology untwisted you might actually deal with people here as people, and not as enemy targets.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I believe one of the greatest joys of Life is in the pursuit of greater Knowledge and Understanding, and you can never have that without the Truth.... Yes, that sounds a bit pompous and silly but I believe it anyway.
Not pompous or silly at all. Clear & untainted I say!
If you no the truth, you can spot the bad guyz eazily. They are the wunz hoo do not value their credibility, insted relying on the gullibilty uv otherz.
Witness Fox Newz, Republicanz, Donald Trump, Vlad Putin. Pik any corrupt organization, autocrat or con man and look at their liez. Its their favorite wepon.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What I don't get is that JO is actually a extremely smart guy, and we used to get along great many years back.
Wuduyu mean "used to"?
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he actually believes that I'm a Russian Bot now.
No I dont. A bot iz software. I beleev youre a real guy sumwhere.
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Dude. Stop watching CNN/MSNBC so much. If you look at my Russia! Russia! Russia! thread, you'll see a download link to Gallup and a poll that came out in June of this year that shows that less than 1% of the people in this country are buying into the Russian propaganda.
Can you see wich colum that paragraf puts you in, referensing my reply to The Captain? Pollz are not facts.
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Originally posted by second:
Opposed (fight is too strong and energetic a word) to falsehoods of that fiery 43% are a bunch of "don't knows" and "luke-warms", most who aren't particularly passionate about truth nor will they fight against the nonsense and lies of the fiery 43%. I think the fiery 43% will have their way because they have excellent attendance at elections, while their opposition remain lukewarm about voting, at least for most elections.
I hav been a member uv The Skeptics Society Forum sins it started in 2005. I hoped that their fundamental premis woud make them amenable to NQaLF and they woud join the revolution.
Didnt happen.
Rather than fiting agenst stoopidity, liez, bad lojik, superstition and ignorans, they are content to ridicule the victimz. Its almost az if they do not want to take any steps to reduse jeneral gullibility bekuz they woud hav less fun if they sekseeded.
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America is as unstable as a canoe and that 43%, strong believers in falsehoods, is more than enough to capsize America and dump all of us into the water.
Too true. And its much worse, really.
A single dum sailor can sink a battle ship. Make him the captain insted and its only a matter uv time til he duz it. (see Bush jr., 2008) Make him the ajent uv the enemy and youre on your way to the bottom.
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Quote:This is why I'm so aghast at how far from reality some of the peepl here are (That means you too, JO.) I know who I am. I feel like I know who SIX is. With all of the personal information that we've posted online ... our current activities, problems, projects, etc ... JO, it's amazing to me that you could ignore all that, conveniently wipe it out of your memory, and bury your head firmly into delusion.
he actually believes that I'm a Russian Bot now.- SIX
No I dont. A bot iz software. I beleev youre a real guy sumwhere.- JO
JO, I hate to be pointed but ... what did you think SIX's drunk posts were? What do you think MY posts were from 10 years ago? Do you think, seriously, that ANYone would waste that much thought, planning, and effort on a no-account website (with apologies to Haken) with so few views?
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A valid argument.
The thing iz that we really dont no hoo most uv us here really are. Aside from myself, it woud at least take sum digging to attach a real name to anybody here and most are not aksessable without sum co-operation from Haken or sum actual hacking.
Then therez the possibility that you arent the orijinal account holderz - that you hijacked them sumhow.
I see that all the time on fasebook. I grant a frend request, go to their paje and it haz porn piks going back a few weeks. Further down, with a big time gap, its just sum ordinary person posting wedding piks, carz, family etc. and therez usually not much uv that. It appearz that sumwun didnt care much about the account and abandoned it.
Bottom line, Sig, if you dont want a blind man to call you a duck, dont quack like a duck.
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"Bottom line, Sig, if you dont want a blind man to call you a duck, dont quack like a duck. "
And you're the blind man shooting at the duck you can't see.
BTW - if you don't know FOR SURE someone is a Russian Troll, it's best to not call them one. That's libel, for which you can be held legally and financially responsible.
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Quote:You just called yourself a blind man. So, don't be a blind man.
if you dont want a blind man to call you a duck ...
1) Read my posts from ten years ago. I haven't changed THAT much where you can't see that I'm the same person as before. The biggest change came when I decided that nationalism was the best path towards freedom, because centralized power is so much more out of reach of the ordinary person. But that was long before Trump.
You want to see what I thought about immigration in early 2016? Here it is
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=19153&mid=282729
How I felt about society's effect on ppl's psychology? (2010)
SMILE OR DIE
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=41464
Ecological collapse?
THE WILY E COYOTE MOMENT (2012)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53215
Back when we used to be able to DISCUSS things, before ppl became infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome (2016)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60332&mid=1007560
2) I'm not posting FOR Russia, and it's only your hysteria/ paranoia that makes you think so. Seriously dude, you mistake my criticism OF YOU for something else. What I'm really for is AMERICA's interests. Frankly, I think that thinking that we can, or should, stick our nose into anyone else's business except ours just sucks our economy dry and shreds our Constitution.
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You failed to mention your constant posting of Russian propaganda.
The IRA and Political Polarization in the United States
https://comprop.oii.ox.ac.uk/research/ira-political-polarization/
The Disinformation Report
https://www.newknowledge.com/disinforeport
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What I don't get is that JO is actually a extremely smart guy, and we used to get along great many years back.
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Originally posted by JO753
Wuduyu mean "used to"?
Yeah. We get along well enough these days, I suppose. It was a lot nicer when we didn't talk about politics though.
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he actually believes that I'm a Russian Bot now.
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No I dont. A bot iz software. I beleev youre a real guy sumwhere.
Yeah. Maybe you were just joking when you asked if Putin pays by the word. I was joking when I said you were Data from TNG.
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Dude. Stop watching CNN/MSNBC so much. If you look at my Russia! Russia! Russia! thread, you'll see a download link to Gallup and a poll that came out in June of this year that shows that less than 1% of the people in this country are buying into the Russian propaganda.
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Can you see wich colum that paragraf puts you in, referensing my reply to The Captain? Pollz are not facts.
They certainly aren't. You do have me there. I have said the same thing myself for many years.
My takeaway from that document, however, is this...
I don't believe that anybody here on either side of any argument has ever argued that Gallup has a bias, either way.
One of my largest arguments against polls is that they somehow try to speak for 300+ Million people with very small sample sizes, and this particular document seems to be possibly even smaller than some of the other polls that I've argued against.
That being said though, with a very long list of things that the people in our country are concerned with, Russia is near the very bottom of the list, and it says that less than 1% think it's important. I'll admit... I doubt that to be the case. I do think it's higher than that... if for no other reason how many people are loud about it online.
But the truth is that a vast majority of people don't give a shit about it. I never hear anybody at work ever talking about it. What I do hear them talk about is how shitty the economy is and how hard it is to make it by on shit wages, and how most of the people I work with have to work two jobs. I truly feel sorry for them. There is no doubt that I'd have to work at least two jobs to maintain my meager existence right now if I had a mortgage.
Maybe worrying about Russia is a rich person's problem? I wouldn't know. I don't know very many people who don't have to worry about money or how they're going to pay the bills.
And the ones that I do know in person I never talk politics with.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:1kiki, if you take a libel case to court, you must reveal your identity. You cannot go to court using "1kiki" and "Signym". Those made up names "1kiki" and "Signym" are just words and words cannot be libeled. There has to be a real person, living/breathing/deceased/decomposing, and most importantly, not going under a fake designation unconnected to a real person. Joss can sue for libel, despite "Joss" not being his given name of Joseph Hill Whedon. But a "1kiki" or a "Signym" aren't connected to any person, real or on a TV show. Until "1kiki" and "Signym" reveal themselves as people, anything said about the words "1kiki" and "Signym" is NOT libel.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Bottom line, Sig, if you dont want a blind man to call you a duck, dont quack like a duck. "
And you're the blind man shooting at the duck you can't see.
BTW - if you don't know FOR SURE someone is a Russian Troll, it's best to not call them one. That's libel, for which you can be held legally and financially responsible.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
You failed to mention your constant posting of Russian propaganda.
Oh, I see the third disinformation campaigner has reared its ugly head again!
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Just so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle ...
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Quote:You just called yourself a blind man. So, don't be a blind man.
if you dont want a blind man to call you a duck ...
Seek out the information that is available to you.
1) Read my posts from ten years ago. I haven't changed THAT much where you can't see that I'm the same person as before. The biggest change came when I decided that nationalism was the best path towards freedom, because centralized power is so much more out of reach of the ordinary person. But that was long before Trump.
You want to see what I thought about immigration in early 2016? Here it is
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=19153&mid=282729
How I felt about society's effect on ppl's psychology? (2010)
SMILE OR DIE
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=41464
Ecological collapse?
THE WILY E COYOTE MOMENT (2012)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53215
Back when we used to be able to DISCUSS things, before ppl became infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome (2016)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60332&mid=1007560
2) I'm not posting FOR Russia, and it's only your hysteria/ paranoia that makes you think so. Seriously dude, you mistake my criticism OF YOU for something else. What I'm really for is AMERICA's interests. Frankly, I think that thinking that we can, or should, stick our nose into anyone else's business except ours just sucks our economy dry and shreds our Constitution.
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Russian disinformation teams targeted Robert S. Mueller III, says report prepared for Senate
Craig Timberg, Tony Romm and Elizabeth Dwoskin, The Washington Post Dec. 17, 2018
www.msn.com/en-xl/northamerica/top-stories/russian-disinformation-team
s-targeted-robert-s-mueller-iii-says-report-prepared-for-senate/ar-BBR7qYi
Months after President Donald Trump took office, Russia's disinformation teams trained their sites on a new target: special counsel Robert Mueller III. Having worked to help get Trump into the White House, they now worked to neutralize the biggest threat to his staying there.
The Russian operatives unloaded on Mueller through fake accounts on Facebook, Twitter and beyond, falsely claiming that the former FBI director was corrupt and that the allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 election were crackpot conspiracies. One post on Instagram - which emerged as an especially potent weapon in the Russian social media arsenal - claimed that Mueller had worked in the past with "radical Islamic groups."
Such tactics exemplified how Russian teams ranged nimbly across social media platforms in a shrewd online influence operation aimed squarely at American voters. The effort started earlier than commonly understood and lasted longer while relying on the strengths of different sites to manipulate distinct slices of the electorate, according to a pair of comprehensive new reports prepared for the Senate Intelligence Committee and released Monday.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Well damn! It's a good thing I'm not on social media!
The Russian operatives unloaded on Mueller through fake accounts on Facebook, Twitter and beyond, falsely claiming that the former FBI director was corrupt and that the allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 election were crackpot conspiracies. One post on Instagram- SECONDHAND quoting SECONDRATEM$M
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Quote:Signym, if you read the article, you would have read "Some of the platforms that don't have as much traffic, but still have highly engaged communities, are the most vulnerable to a challenge like misinformation." That would describe fireflyfans.net, and you are pretty free about spreading misinformation, Signym. You would have also read that Russian disinformation operatives moved easily from platform to platform. Signym, you using "SECONDHAND quoting SECONDRATEM$M" and even your signature in red, which quotes me, are typical Troll Tactics. Signym, you quack like a duck; Maybe you are a duck.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Well damn! It's a good thing I'm not on social media!
The Russian operatives unloaded on Mueller through fake accounts on Facebook, Twitter and beyond, falsely claiming that the former FBI director was corrupt and that the allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 election were crackpot conspiracies. One post on Instagram- SECONDHAND quoting SECONDRATEM$M
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:No, you're supposed to read their posts and remember what they posted about themselves. If you didn't or you can't, that's your problem.
I'm just suppose to believe you because you say so?- GSTRING
Yanno, we DO chat about things in other threads. Maybe if you stopped being a deep state troll and got your ideology untwisted you might actually deal with people here as people, and not as enemy targets.
Hey - you ran away from the uncomfortable claim you made! Again!
Really?? You know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???
Do tell!
You made it sound like you were all chummy with JSF and how you knew people here so well... so?
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Quote:SUCH AS????
you are pretty free about spreading misinformation, = SECOND
So, how about a few quotes and links to back up your disinformation? Huh, SECOND?
I'll bet that you never respond directly to this because
a) My "misinformation" doesn't exist and
b) You, like GSTRING, have no hesitation about LYING to make a point.
So SMILE when you say that, partner!
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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And speak of the devil ... here comes GSTRING to make my point about him lying at every opportunity ...
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Really?? You know about JSF's general location, current job status, family members, or overall personal history???... you knew people here so well GSTRING
That's not what I said, but thank you for LYING about my post ... which btw is easily accessible to anyone who can read. (JO< a perfect opportunity not the be a blind man ... go back and read what I posted.)
What I posted was that I knew MORE ABOUT JSF than I know about you. And I do: I know MORE ABOUT JSF than I know about you.
But yeah- Thanks for making my point for me, you fucking disinformation specialist.
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"1kiki, if you take a libel case to court, you must reveal your identity."
My lawyer knows my identity. More importantly, the fact that I go under a pseudonym here isn't a problem for me. Nor is it cover for you. You need to contact a real lawyer. Make sure you tell him or her EXACTLY what you've been doing on the internet. Bring your lawyer quotes of your posts where you call people Russian Trolls. They can't give you good advice if you don't tell them the truth.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That's not what I said, but thank you for LYING about my post ... which btw is easily accessible to anyone who can read. (JO< a perfect opportunity not the be a blind man ... go back and read what I posted.)
Please, you implied you didn't know me because you didn't know those things and then you said you knew other people much better because, duh, you knew those things. Quit being daffy.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I posted was that I knew MORE ABOUT JSF than I know about you. And I do: I know MORE ABOUT JSF than I know about you.
But yeah - Thanks for making my point for me, you fucking disinformation specialist.
Really? It's almost 2019 and I have to tell you that you can't believe what ANYONE - especially anonymous forum users - posts on the Internet? Godd@mn, Lucy - you really don't know anything about anyone on a fourm.
But do tell us what you think you know about JSF from her posts.
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Quote:So, that's your excuse for strawmanning - which is LYING btw. You can't refute people's words so you have to resort to making up words they never posted.
Originally posted by GEEBERS:
you implied
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Quote:You DO know what a 'platform' is - right?
Originally posted by second:
"Some of the platforms that don't have as much traffic
BTW, do you think Signy is being a Russian Troll by QUOTING YOU?
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Quote:I'll tell you what you posted about yourself, as best as I can remember: You said that you worked with old people once. You said that you had some sort of intellectual property dispute over an image.
But do tell us what you think you know about JSF from her posts.
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They really hate the fact that we know they're Russian trolls.
They don't understand why we know it beyond any doubt.
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FOR THE RECORD
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
They really hate the fact that we know they're Russian trolls.
They don't understand why we know it beyond any doubt.
SHTF- your only defense will be the insanity plea.
tee hee hee
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
They really hate the fact that we know they're Russian trolls.
They don't understand why we know it beyond any doubt.
Correct
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And YOUR defense, THUGR? You should be made to take an IQ test before going to court. Maybe someone will be assigned as your conservator.
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Hav you watched The Americans, Sig? (I only watched seazon 1. Didnt find it to be so great, but thats likely kuz I'm spoiled from so many GREAT showz.) I understand that its loosely based on actual sircumstansez.
Pozing az an American in an internet forum for 12+ yirz woud not be in the running for the 'most elaborate effort to establish an identity' award at the annual GRU spy emmyz.
Yes, I'm saying I'm blind. We all are on the internet. It haz alwayz been the perfect envirement for fake personaz. That makes it ideal for an infiltration campane by a hostile power. Low cost intimate widespred community partisipation from anywhere! No need for long term sleeper ajents and the hyooj expens uv crafting real identityz.
I red a few uv your posts in the immigration thred. I can agree with alot uv it, but it duznt mean you arent working for Putin.
I can appreciate the problem an internet ajent haz - how to push the messij They want without expozing your loyalty? It can be impossibl in sum situationz.
Sumwun coud play hard line patriotic American liberal Democrat for 20 yirz, but it woudnt take much Trump cheering and fact denying to undo it all.
A child coud tell Trump wuz working for Putin from very early in 2016, so you guyz are either part uv it or are extreemly gullibl.
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Quote:True. But have you read any of my earlier posts, like from 2010? That would establish my very long history here.
Yes, I'm saying I'm blind. We all are on the internet. It haz alwayz been the perfect envirement for fake personaz. That makes it ideal for an infiltration campane by a hostile power. Low cost intimate widespred community partisipation from anywhere! No need for long term sleeper ajents and the hyooj expens uv crafting real identityz.
Use your common sense: Obviously, I'm not a bot. So why would anyone spend 10+ years establishing a very detailed entity on a (apologies to Haken) no-account fansite? Especially an entity that obviously takes a person hours per week, sometimes hours per day, discussing events and policies IN DETAIL? Doesn't that seem an implausible waste of time?
Quote:Now that's just stupid. If I'm consistently pushing for American interests, how could I possibly be "working for Putin"? Heck, I think I'm more pro-American than YOU, JO!
I red a few uv your posts in the immigration thred. I can agree with alot uv it, but it duznt mean you arent working for Putin.
As a person who has run for office, you have spent more time than most thinking about "American interests". It is an area that we MIGHT agree on, for the most part, but disagree in some areas. But it's something we should be able to discuss without resorting to paranoia and libel.
Apparently, JO, you've never run across AMERICANS who disagree with you, and with whom you fundamentally disagree. But I assure you, they exist. And they've been existing since before you were born! I read your platform, I think I know where you're coming from. but I really think that YOU ought to return the favor, spread your mental wings a bit - listen to people like
Tom Luongo (libertarian) or
Harley Schlanger (libertarian) or
Dave of X22 (Q conspiracist)
Gerald Celente (political atheist)
Noam Chomsky (extreme liberal academic)
CLEARLY they're all Americans, but you would find their POsV alien. Get familiar with the big wide world of ideas out there, and you won't be so disoriented when you run across them in the future. After a few years, you'll be able to recognize "who's who in the zoo" and know where they stand in relation to you, and where you are in relation to them. (BTW, if you go back and read posts by SARGEX, he's a great example of an extreme libertarian.)
Quote:That's your paranoia talking. You assume that anyone who disagrees with you is hiding some deep disloyalty to America. Jeez. It's a disagreement - don't turn it into something that it isn't.
I can appreciate the problem an internet ajent haz - how to push the messij They want without expozing your loyalty? It can be impossibl in sum situationz.
Quote:WHAT A STUPID IDEA! WHY would someone spend 20 years pretending to be a Democratic liberal? Did they KNOW ahead of time that Trump (or someone like him) was going to be elected???
Sumwun coud play hard line patriotic American liberal Democrat for 20 yirz, but it woudnt take much Trump cheering and fact denying to undo it all.
Quote:If this is something a child could tell, then ... are you a child?
A child coud tell Trump wuz working for Putin from very early in 2016, so you guyz are either part uv it or are extreemly gullibl.
I'll give you my interpretation of Trump: He has some strong, heartfelt beliefs. They're not terribly thought-through, and - like most people - they even contradict each other. I honestly think that Trump - because of his uncle who worked with "nuclear" - came to realize that a nuclear war is bad for everyone, and because Russia is our nuclear competitor and because between the two of us we could destroy the world several tim
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When exposed, the troll will attempt to deflect and project.
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Russian trolls can be surprisingly subtle, and often fun to read
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/outlook/russian-trolls-can-be-s
urprisingly-subtle-and-often-fun-to-read/2019/03/08/677f8ec2-413c-11e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com
On Sept. 10, 2018, @PoliteMelanie tweeted to her more than 20,000 followers: “Criticizing Trump in a book is just unfair. It’s like criticizing the Amish on television.” The next day, this tweet won the Chicago Tribune’s “Tweet of the Week” contest. What the Tribune’s readers didn’t know when casting their votes, however, was that “Melanie” was a Russian troll.
PoliteMelanie appears to be part of a well-coordinated network of Russian troll accounts that we monitored in the run-up to the 2018 elections. Examining a range of data points, including source material and the timing of tweets, told us that this account was most likely operated from Russia’s Internet Research Agency (IRA). This secretive St. Petersburg-based organization, financed by Russian oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin (known as “Putin’s chef” because he catered dinners for the Russian president), has worked for years to influence political conversations on social media around the globe. One may have assumed that the Russian trolls’ posts would be crass, vitriolic, vodka-fueled attacks featuring broken English and spreading fake news or simple pro-Putin propaganda. Most Americans probably believe that they could spot a Russian troll from a mile away — and that they would certainly never engage with one. These assumptions, however, do not give credit to what Prigozhin’s people have built.
What can you tell us about your operations here, Siggy?
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You're an idiot.
Sigs has had an account here and been a regular poster for 17 years now.
This site has at most 1 dozen active users on any given day.
Melanie who got post of the week had 20,000 followers on social media and enough exposure to get that award from a major news publication.
I'm more inclined to believe that you're a bad foreign actor than she is.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:That's because, as usual, you betray a serious lack of education and understanding.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're an idiot.
Sigs has had an account here and been a regular poster for 17 years now.
This site has at most 1 dozen active users on any given day.
Melanie who got post of the week had 20,000 followers on social media and enough exposure to get that award from a major news publication.
I'm more inclined to believe that you're a bad foreign actor than she is.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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You ARE an idiot!
Also, rather divorced from reality. And a troll.
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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:That's because, as usual, you betray a serious lack of education and understanding.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're an idiot.
Sigs has had an account here and been a regular poster for 17 years now.
This site has at most 1 dozen active users on any given day.
Melanie who got post of the week had 20,000 followers on social media and enough exposure to get that award from a major news publication.
I'm more inclined to believe that you're a bad foreign actor than she is.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wow. Another stupid comment from the great Marcos, who is all feels and no facts, all day, every day.
*yawn*
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I originally read the article - which is an OPINION piece - at WaPo.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/russian-trolls-can-be-surprisin
gly-subtle-and-often-fun-to-read/2019/03/08/677f8ec2-413c-11e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html
It was both puzzling, and deeply troubling. What was it saying?
To get to the main course, here are all the tweets, in their entirety, that WaPo opines were from accounts "most likely operated from Russia’s Internet Research Agency (IRA)".
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“Criticizing Trump in a book is just unfair. It’s like criticizing the Amish on television.”
“Daily reminder that the most educated First Lady in American history is a black woman with two Ivy League degrees from Harvard and Princeton.”
“#TrumpCampaignSlogans Real troll from America.”
“#ThingsYouCantIgnore a Russian plant as your next #POTUS.”
The first two are the most mild, inoffensive statements imaginable. The next two are standard Trump-derangement fare.
And yet, after screening tens of thousands of tweets, these four tweets are **the** prime shining examples of a campaign that WaPo calls "secretive", that "speak(s) vehemently" (vehemently? really?), aimed at "divid(ing) and polariz(ing) the United States" and "undermin(ing) our trust in the ... media, science, academia and the electoral process." Go back and re-read them. Then ask yourself if they fit the description WaPo gives them. And after that, ask yourself who is really giving the most air-time to the idea that our elections are tainted by Russia, and that Trump is compromised by Russia.
Getting back to this opinion piece, if these four completely ordinary, unremarkable tweets are too much for WaPo, what, I wonder, does WaPo find is an acceptable opinion to voice? What does WaPo find is an acceptable opinion to hear? No opinion at all? Only those opinions found at the moment in the WaPo?
Does the WaPo think Americans have mashed potatoes for brains? Do they merely assume that by putting out this opinion piece as some kind of valid news, we're so deficient we'll accept it as fact? Or are they so blatant they're actually telling us in the content that we should?
The only thing I get out of this piece is that WaPo thinks we're all so brainwashed, we'll just assume that any opinion at all must be viewed with suspicion. And if we're not, we should be. Because, as they tell us ... RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!
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I was much further left back in the days when the Democrats at least seemed to be the party of free speech.
Not only do we have lefties on this board that will agree 100% with that article by the WaPo, but a few of them will defend Jeff Bezos to me as well.
I don't know what the hell is going on.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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