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French elections, and France in general

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Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:15 PM

Vive La Diffrance!!!

Ha! I kill me!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Hackers came but the French were prepared:

Quote:

The National Security Agency in Washington picked up the signs. So did Emmanuel Macron’s bare-bones technology team. And mindful of what happened in the American presidential campaign, the team created dozens of false email accounts, complete with phony documents, to confuse the attackers.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/world/europe/hackers-came-but-the-f
rench-were-prepared.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0


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Friday, May 12, 2017 8:08 PM

I'm loving watching the Left Wingers in here get so excited about a hot shot banker taking control of France.

Guess that sort of thing is okay when it's not in your back yard, huh?

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Tuesday, December 4, 2018 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: (Sunday, May 7, 2017)
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Macron wins - France wins, the better world wins. Thank you France.

==============================



Good news




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Originally posted by 6stringJoker: (Sunday, May 7, 2017)
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Macron wins - France wins, the better world wins. Thank you France.

==============================



lol.... we'll see




Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI: (Sunday, May 7, 2017)

Funny how SIG and 1kik1 are sad the angry right fascists didn't win. Hmmm



Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: (Monday, May 8, 2017)
Vive La France!!!

as "La Marseillaise" plays in the background, Score One for the Good Guys!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Macron wins - France wins, the better world wins. Thank you France.

==============================








France says "OOPS!"

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/03/france-fuel-protests-heres-whats-happe
ning-and-why-it-matters.html


Quote:

Violent protest in Paris has left analysts contemplating what this could mean for embattled President Emmanuel Macron, amid a resurgence in populist politics ahead of European elections next year.

The French protests seem to be inspiring others in Europe with copycat riots in Belgium this weekend. Famke Krumbmuller, partner and head of political risk at OpenCitiz, told CNBC that the disgruntlement of protesters in France could be felt elsewhere in Europe.

"I guess what's specific to this movement is that it is relatively apolitical, so they (the protesters) are not from just one party on the left or right. They're white, middle-class people that are squeezed by the welfare state. They pay a lot of taxes but they don't get a lot of benefits in return," she told CNBC's Julianna Tatelbaum in Paris.

Following several weekends of protests, tensions came to a head on Saturday when full-scale riots erupted in Paris with scenes described as "urban warfare" and "the worst riots in a generation." The incidents led to the police deploying tear gas and water cannons against protesters. A reported 133 people were injured (including police officers) and 412 arrested.

France's Interior Ministry said it had deployed 37,000 police officers, 30,000 gendarmes (a branch of France's armed forces placed under the jurisdiction of the Interior Ministry) and over 30,000 firefighters to deal with the riots on December 1.

If anti-Macron slogans daubed on the Arc de Triomphe, one of Paris' most famous landmarks, are anything to go by, they show that the protests are about more than just fuel and are reflecting a wider dissatisfaction with his leadership, his reforms and the economy.

Seen as aloof and well-off and representing the elite, Macron has seen his approval ratings continue to fall. That could be a sign of bad things to come for his party, La République En Marche, at the European Parliament elections in May 2019 and questions over his leadership at home — especially with the far-right Rassemblement National (the re-branded National Front) remaining a threat.



That's what happens when you vote for socialism and globalism, dummies. You get unchecked immigration and $8/gal gasoline and the privilege of paying $50 to get to work and back.

At 29% approval rating (in October) and falling, Macron's making Trump's current approval ratings look great.

Quote:

My friend the Communist. Holds meetings in his office. I can't afford his gas. So I'm stuck here watching TV. ~Sheryl Crow "I Wanna Soak Up The Sun"




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, December 4, 2018 12:17 AM

Macron is definitely not a socialist by any meaning of the word I understand (he also didn't run as one). He's a financialist internationalist.

LePen was not his exact opposite, either. Her stance on social services (as best I can tell, they weren't a highlight of her campaign) was that they should be for French citizens only. Her biggest issue was with unfettered immigration through the EU and into France, which seems a reasonable stance to me, but which got her painted as 'far right'.

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Tuesday, December 4, 2018 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Macron is definitely not a socialist by any meaning of the word I understand (he also didn't run as one). He's a financialist internationalist.

LePen was not his exact opposite, either. Her stance on social services (as best I can tell, they weren't a highlight of her campaign) was that they should be for French citizens only. Her biggest issue was with unfettered immigration through the EU and into France, which seems a reasonable stance to me, but which got her painted as 'far right'.



Then why is he acting like one?

You focus too much on what platform politicians run on and not what they actually do after they're elected.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Macron is definitely not a socialist by any meaning of the word I understand (he also didn't run as one). He's a financialist internationalist.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Then why is he acting like one?

He's not. It looks like he's trying supply-side economics.
Quote:

https://www.france24.com/en/20180822-france-macron-reforms-labour-budg
et-pensions-benalla-scandal

"He is also routinely described as the "president of the rich", owing to his tax cuts for the wealthy and his remarks on the “crazy amount of cash” France spends on welfare benefits.
Macron is likely to face a tough task in domestic politics, with his ambitious reforms frustrated by a lower than expected forecast for economic growth.
The French president is planning to further chip away at labour regulations with a bill focusing on helping small businesses to grow by removing some financial and bureaucratic barriers."

He's into French-style union-busting.
Quote:

https://hbr.org/2018/05/why-labor-protests-in-france-wont-stop-macrons
-reforms

"Not surprisingly, Macron has put labor relations at the center of his reform efforts. He wants to make it harder for labor unions to extend collective agreements beyond those who signed them. His proposed reform introduced the possibility for companies with fewer than 20 employees to negotiate a collective agreement even in the absence of a union delegate, provided at least two-thirds of employees support the agreement. It also allows companies with 20 to 50 employees to negotiate with an elected representative even if not explicitly mandated by the unions."

Nothing about Macron's reforms looks socialist.
Quote:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/05/france-macron-reforms
-sncf-strikes-unions

"To the left he’s a union-bashing president for the rich. The shake-up of pension arrangements for state rail operator SNCF affects almost 200,000 employees. According to Macron’s manifesto, that is just the start. He has plans to fold 40-odd employer and state pension schemes into one, potentially asking millions to give up benefits and privileges negotiated over many decades."

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Tuesday, December 4, 2018 9:36 PM

http://fortune.com/2018/12/04/macron-fuel-tax-protests/

This isn't going to save your job, Macron.

I think it's time for you and your geriatric wife to get in your limo and ride off into the sunset.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, December 4, 2018 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: (Sunday, May 7, 2017)
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Macron wins - France wins, the better world wins. Thank you France.
==============================


Good news


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker: (Sunday, May 7, 2017)
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Macron wins - France wins, the better world wins. Thank you France.
==============================


lol.... we'll see


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI: (Sunday, May 7, 2017)
Funny how SIG and 1kik1 are sad the angry right fascists didn't win. Hmmm


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: (Monday, May 8, 2017)
Vive La France!!!

as "La Marseillaise" plays in the background, Score One for the Good Guys!

SGG
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Macron wins - France wins, the better world wins. Thank you France.
==============================






France says "OOPS!"

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/03/france-fuel-protests-heres-whats-happe
ning-and-why-it-matters.html

Quote:

Violent protest in Paris has left analysts contemplating what this could mean for embattled President Emmanuel Macron, amid a resurgence in populist politics ahead of European elections next year.

The French protests seem to be inspiring others in Europe with copycat riots in Belgium this weekend. Famke Krumbmuller, partner and head of political risk at OpenCitiz, told CNBC that the disgruntlement of protesters in France could be felt elsewhere in Europe.

"I guess what's specific to this movement is that it is relatively apolitical, so they (the protesters) are not from just one party on the left or right. They're white, middle-class people that are squeezed by the welfare state. They pay a lot of taxes but they don't get a lot of benefits in return," she told CNBC's Julianna Tatelbaum in Paris.

Following several weekends of protests, tensions came to a head on Saturday when full-scale riots erupted in Paris with scenes described as "urban warfare" and "the worst riots in a generation." The incidents led to the police deploying tear gas and water cannons against protesters. A reported 133 people were injured (including police officers) and 412 arrested.

France's Interior Ministry said it had deployed 37,000 police officers, 30,000 gendarmes (a branch of France's armed forces placed under the jurisdiction of the Interior Ministry) and over 30,000 firefighters to deal with the riots on December 1.

If anti-Macron slogans daubed on the Arc de Triomphe, one of Paris' most famous landmarks, are anything to go by, they show that the protests are about more than just fuel and are reflecting a wider dissatisfaction with his leadership, his reforms and the economy.

Seen as aloof and well-off and representing the elite, Macron has seen his approval ratings continue to fall. That could be a sign of bad things to come for his party, La République En Marche, at the European Parliament elections in May 2019 and questions over his leadership at home — especially with the far-right Rassemblement National (the re-branded National Front) remaining a threat.


That's what happens when you vote for socialism and globalism, dummies. You get unchecked immigration and $8/gal gasoline and the privilege of paying $50 to get to work and back.

At 29% approval rating (in October) and falling, Macron's making Trump's current approval ratings look great.
Quote:

My friend the Communist. Holds meetings in his office. I can't afford his gas. So I'm stuck here watching TV. ~Sheryl Crow "I Wanna Soak Up The Sun"

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The Climate-Change Economic Tax on Fuel is what gave the high fuel " costs" - and is part of the Climate-Change Economy that many Liberals are eager for.
Do you interpret this Climate-Change Economy model as

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Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:40 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Climate-Change Economic Tax on Fuel is what gave the high fuel " costs" - and is part of the Climate-Change Economy that many Liberals are eager for.
Do you interpret this Climate-Change Economy model as part of the Socialist or Globalist platform? I don't recall seeing this direct link between any before.



I don't see any real difference between the Socialist or Globalist platform today.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, December 5, 2018 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Climate-Change Economic Tax on Fuel is what gave the high fuel " costs" - and is part of the Climate-Change Economy that many Liberals are eager for.
Do you interpret this Climate-Change Economy model as part of the Socialist or Globalist platform? I don't recall seeing this direct link between any before.


I don't see any real difference between the Socialist or Globalist platform today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I can repeat the question. Is the Climate-Change Economy part of those platforms?

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