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So.... About this "Caravan"

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Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:27 PM

Food line at Tijuana shelter ....

https://twitter.com/i/status/1066480704115146752

.... and not a woman or child in sight.

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Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:34 PM

I would say nothing came of this plan .... yet. Seems like most people in this report plan to enter illegally.

Quote:

Honduran Migrant: 20,000 Plan to ‘March’ Across Border
By Charlotte Cuthbertson
November 24, 2018 Updated: November 24, 2018




TIJUANA, Mexico—Honduran Marco Gómez, 26, arrived in Tijuana on the evening of Nov. 22, and slept under a bridge just yards from the El Chaparral pedestrian entrance to the United States.

He was with a larger group of migrants who said they wanted to send a message to President Donald Trump “to open the gates.”

Gómez said the plan is to wait until an expected 20,000 migrants arrive in Tijuana and then enter the United States en masse.

“We’ll stay together and be strong, and then move on to the U.S.,” he said. “Peacefully, like people going from one country to another. Marching.”

He said they plan to enter through the vehicle lanes at San Ysidro, because “it’s more spacious.”

Gómez, who said he was a construction worker in Honduras, said he is not sure if he will apply for asylum.

“It’s a waste of time. It’s a process that takes months and years—it’s a long time.”
Marco Gómez (L) and several other Honduran migrants slept under a bridge across the road from the Chaparral port of entry to the United States in Tijuana, Mexico, on Nov. 23, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Times)

Another Honduran migrant that also camped near the border entry said his mother and his sister already made it to the United States several months ago and he plans to join them.

Frank Martinez who is traveling with his father, said they will cross illegally.

“I personally, and I know many people will attempt to do the same thing—it’s to cross illegally. I will enter illegally,” he said.

“Because we want a better life, and I’m in a hurry.”

He said Mexico has offered him asylum, but he won’t take it.

“It’s not my intention, to stay here, in this country. My intention is the United States.”
Honduran migrant Frank Martinez stands near the Chaparral port of entry to the United States in Tijuana, Mexico, on Nov. 23, 2018. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Times)

New plans are being made by the migrants continuously, and it’s difficult to get clear information.

However, in a video published on the Pueblo Sin Fronteras Facebook page—an open-borders group helping organize the migrants—a group of migrants at the sports complex in Tijuana can be heard saying they plan to try crossing en masse into the United States on Sunday, Nov. 25.

“The best day to go to the bridge—peacefully, not with violence—is on Sunday. And write banners with our points,” one leader is heard saying. “And we don’t want the media to publish this before we do it.”

The crowd can be heard cheering loudly when they are told that they can still apply for asylum if they cross illegally into the United States.

On Nov. 19, a federal judge overturned a presidential proclamation from Nov. 9, that said no illegal border crossers will be eligible for general asylum (other types of asylum would still be available, but require a higher burden of proof).

“We have two ways to seek political asylum in the United States—entering illegally or entering through the gate. But we need to go all, all of us,” a leader says in the video. “We do understand how we want to cross—illegally.”

The leaders stressed they wanted to enter peacefully.



https://www.theepochtimes.com/honduran-migrant-20000-plan-to-march-acr
oss-border_2723034.html


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Monday, November 26, 2018 1:45 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Food line at Tijuana shelter ....

https://twitter.com/i/status/1066480704115146752

.... and not a woman or child in sight.

They forgot to buy some "sons and daughters" already? Without a child, what are they going to sell once they get here?
Pedophile Democrats aren't going to pay exorbitant money for anything else.
And now this creates a shortage of children for pedophile Democrats to buy for cheap. Wasn't that the whole purpose of Democrats arranging and funding this child smuggling and invasion caravan?

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THG
Monday, November 26, 2018 1:47 AM



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Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two.

Fucking dummies




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Monday, November 26, 2018 4:33 AM

NOT AN "INVASION"?

Well, I guess they did try to rush the border after all...

Quote:

U.S.-Mexico border crossing closed after migrant protest halted in Tijuana
Lizbeth Diaz

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - The United States closed its busiest border crossing with Mexico on Sunday after Mexican police broke up a protest of Central American migrants massed in Tijuana, scattering some demonstrators toward the border where U.S. officers hurled gas canisters from the American side.

Traffic in both directions was suspended at the San Ysidro port of entry between San Diego and Tijuana, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency said on Twitter.

U.S. President Donald Trump has raised alarms about a caravan of Central American migrants as it approached the United States, with its members planning to apply for asylum on reaching the United States.

Tensions on the border had been rising in recent days, with thousands of migrants camped out in a sports stadium in Tijuana and hundreds periodically gathering near the main border crossing. The migrants have said they would wait there until they could request asylum, despite growing U.S. measures to tighten the border.

On Sunday, hundreds of caravan members, including women and children

Maybe a few here and there, but mostly young men so please, Reuters, stop spinning the story
Quote:

were peacefully protesting when they were stopped by Mexican authorities, who told them to wait for permission.

As the morning wore on, and it became clear they would not get permission, people started to express frustration.

A small group broke off and headed a few hundred feet (meters) away to a part of a canal between Tijuana and San Diego that led to the border fence.

At that point, before the group had reached the border, U.S. Customs and Border Protest officers who had gathered on the other side of the fence launched canisters of what a Reuters reporter said felt and smelled like pepper.

Protesters were caught between the Mexican and U.S. authorities. A young woman fell to the ground unconscious, and two babies cried, tears streaming from the gas.

After running to relative safety a few hundred feet away, hundreds of the caravan members held a sit-in.

Later, immigrants again approached the border in groups and were met by a further volley of canisters emitting large clouds of gas.

Trump has deployed military forces to the border to support the Border Patrol and threatened on Saturday to close the entire southern border. But Sunday’s action affected only the San Ysidro crossing, the busiest port of entry between the United States and Mexico.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration/u-s-mexico-border-c
rossing-closed-after-migrant-protest-halted-in-tijuana-idUSKCN1NU0YS


Here is a picture.
Please note how the camera focuses on two women and two children in the front, and minimizes the fact that nearly every other person in the background appears to be a man.

Quote:

Some pushing right to fence shouting “yes we can”.

http://twitter.com/i/status/1066785535937654784
No, you can't.

Quote:

Hundreds try to storm the border

http://twitter.com/i/status/1066772298068357121
Nearly all men.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, November 26, 2018 3:11 PM

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The answer is NOT in the bottom of a bottle, son!


I'm going to address this separately. I do NOT drink. I know I have addressed
this before with both you and Kiki. I know you do this to try and get me upset and fucking bang out a couple of decent curse words and go all-out ballistic on your ass. So, here's what I'm going to do for you and anyone else who wants to do this asshole petty bullshit....

Motherfucking comrade Russian troll sack of shit, bitch scumbag, Nazi hag.
Fuck you and the broom you flew in on.

It's funny how you guys always talk so much shit about suing people for slander, and how "we" should be civil and all the rest of the fucking
bullshit you spew. Well FUCK YOU very much.

Ahhhhh, I feel better already.

Have a nice day!


sgg

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Monday, November 26, 2018 4:12 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Nearly all men.



And your point is...?

Because they're men they must be criminals?

Perhaps you are just pointing out the obvious:

- that men can handle the thousand plus mile journey better than women and children
- that men can earn more in the US than women and children
- that in their culture, men are suppose to be the sole providers
- that men should have stayed behind and joined the drug gangs
- that Trump supporters are pretty universally stupid

Maybe something else?

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Monday, November 26, 2018 5:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

The answer is NOT in the bottom of a bottle, son!


I'm going to address this separately. I do NOT drink. I know I have addressed
this before with both you and Kiki. I know you do this to try and get me upset and fucking bang out a couple of decent curse words and go all-out ballistic on your ass. So, here's what I'm going to do for you and anyone else who wants to do this asshole petty bullshit....

Motherfucking comrade Russian troll sack of shit, bitch scumbag, Nazi hag.
Fuck you and the broom you flew in on.

It's funny how you guys always talk so much shit about suing people for slander, and how "we" should be civil and all the rest of the fucking
bullshit you spew. Well FUCK YOU very much.

Ahhhhh, I feel better already.

Have a nice day!


sgg



I thought you did drink? Did you get sober too?

Congrats if you did, bud.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 26, 2018 8:55 PM

Quote:

I'm going to address this separately. I do NOT drink. I know I have addressed
this before with both you and Kiki. I know you do this to try and get me upset and fucking bang out a couple of decent curse words and go all-out ballistic on your ass. So, here's what I'm going to do for you and anyone else who wants to do this asshole petty bullshit....

Motherfucking comrade Russian troll sack of shit, bitch scumbag, Nazi hag.
Fuck you and the broom you flew in on.

It's funny how you guys always talk so much shit about suing people for slander, and how "we" should be civil and all the rest of the fucking bullshit you spew. Well FUCK YOU very much.

Ahhhhh, I feel better already.

If you don't drink, then how to account for your nonsensical over-the-top posts??? I was doing you a FAVOR by assuming that you were drunk-posting. If not, then the problem is much, much deeper than a mere half-bottle of whiskey.

It appears that you have the emotional control of a two-year-old.

I know that you're upset about THE TOPIC, but try to get hold of yourself; that might help you and everyone around you.

Have a nice day!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, November 26, 2018 9:02 PM

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And your point is...?- GSTRING
I'm pointing out the bias of the M$M (and NPR) when they constantly bleat ...

Think of the women and children!

OBVIOUSLY they want to focus on the most sympathetic characters in the caravan because they want these people here in the USA. So they interview the queer and transgendered and the women who're escaping domestic violence (which BTW does not qualify for asylum).

The M$M isn't about to break the narrative that they're trying to establish ("The poor poor migrant!!") by interviewing any of the many strapping young men who're planning to rush the border or cross illegally as soon as they get the chance, because that's not part of the propaganda that they're trying to push.

That's why I posted some on-the-ground tweets that you will never see from the M$M: To give you a more realistic view of events and people.

Yanno, maybe these lawbreaking young men are the problem in Honduras (or wherever they come from), and they're just bringing their Central American problems with them. Why would we want to import them?



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