The Caravan, The Deficit, The 14th Amendment and the Trump Narrative

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I don't know SGG. Did Sig just tip her hand. Look how she responds to your post directed to KIKI. As though she is KIKI. Am I missing something here? Is Sig, kiki?- THUGR

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THUGR, please stop embarrassing yourself.

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Hey Kiki, not to defend anyone or any such nonsense. I do have a question regarding your reply, and this goes for Signym as well.- SGG

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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What do I think about California's proposed policies on healthcare or anything? Why would I care? It's not my state of Texas. I don't care what CA does

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Wow, you grab complaints and headlines from all over the USA to support your endless ... and boy, do I mean ENDLESS ... bitching and griping about Republicans. no matter where they are, or how distant the issues from you, or even whether or not your complaints contradict each other or make the slightest sense... but when time comes to admitting that maybe some Dems are proposing a stupid policy, suddenly it's "NMP". (Not My Problem)

And you complain about the average American being a weather-vane and not remembering what happened a month ago? Jeez, you can't even remember what you posted an HOUR ago!

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Here is another one of those ordinary problems that could be solved, but won't, because Americans won't pay:

Voters in Maine were presented with a ballot measure that would have provided disabled adults or people over the age of 65 with full-time, long-term care in their own homes, at no cost to individuals or their families. It was hailed by supporters as a visionary model for ensuring support for vulnerable people, one that could be rolled out in other states as the US elder population grows.

Alas, it’s a vision whose time has not yet come. Voters in Maine soundly defeated Question 1 at the polls on Tuesday (Nov. 6).

The measure on the ballot would have imposed an additional tax of 3.8% on wages and income for people earning more than $128,400 a year. The tax, which would have been split between workers and employers, was expected to bring in $310 million per year from the 60,000 Maine households earning enough to qualify.

More at https://qz.com/work/1454794/

Signym & 1kiki, Americans being unwilling to pay, both Democrats and especially Republicans, will always be preventing problems from being solved. The Americans in the top 1% of wealth or income, whichever measure pleases you, have noticed this weakness in the lower 99% of Americans, from both political parties, and used it to keep the taxes low on the wealthy or the highly paid, again, whichever measure pleases you most.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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What do I think about California's proposed policies on healthcare or anything? Why would I care? It's not my state of Texas. I don't care what CA does

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Wow, you grab complaints and headlines from all over the USA to support your endless ... and boy, do I mean ENDLESS ... bitching and griping about Republicans. no matter where they are, or how distant the issues from you, or even whether or not your complaints contradict each other or make the slightest sense... but when time comes to admitting that maybe some Dems are proposing a stupid policy, suddenly it's "NMP". (Not My Problem)

And you complain about the average American being a weather-vane and not remembering what happened a month ago? Jeez, you can't even remember what you posted an HOUR ago!

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Here is another one of those ordinary problems that could be solved, but won't, because Americans won't pay:

Voters in Maine were presented with a ballot measure that would have provided disabled adults or people over the age of 65 with full-time, long-term care in their own homes, at no cost to individuals or their families. It was hailed by supporters as a visionary model for ensuring support for vulnerable people, one that could be rolled out in other states as the US elder population grows.

Alas, it’s a vision whose time has not yet come. Voters in Maine soundly defeated Question 1 at the polls on Tuesday (Nov. 6).

The measure on the ballot would have imposed an additional tax of 3.8% on wages and income for people earning more than $128,400 a year. The tax, which would have been split between workers and employers, was expected to bring in $310 million per year from the 60,000 Maine households earning enough to qualify.

More at https://qz.com/work/1454794/

Signym & 1kiki, Americans being unwilling to pay, both Democrats and especially Republicans, will always be preventing problems from being solved. The Americans in the top 1% of wealth or income, whichever measure pleases you, have noticed this weakness in the lower 99% of Americans, from both political parties, and used it to keep the taxes low on the wealthy or the highly paid, again, whichever measure pleases you most.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Nobody can pay that shit. You should really stop judging other people who don't have the kind of money that you do.

People are going to have to just man up and take their parents in like they do almost everywhere else in the world.

Either that, or legalize euthanasia. I'm already trying to figure out how I can get that taken care of in Canada when my teeth situation goes south since I'm not paying more than I paid for my house to fix a serious medical condition that insurance won't pay for and I'm not going to live with my gums flapping in the wind and eating baby food either.

People need to stop living till 100 and bleeding everybody else dry. They paid a fraction into social security what people are paying now and they're living longer than ever before. Freakin' baby boomers are going to ruin it for everyone.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Nobody can pay that shit. You should really stop judging other people who don't have the kind of money that you do.

People are going to have to just man up and take their parents in like they do almost everywhere else in the world.

Either that, or legalize euthanasia. I'm already trying to figure out how I can get that taken care of in Canada when my teeth situation goes south since I'm not paying more than I paid for my house to fix a serious medical condition that insurance won't pay for and I'm not going to live with my gums flapping in the wind and eating baby food either.

People need to stop living till 100 and bleeding everybody else dry. They paid a fraction into social security what people are paying now and they're living longer than ever before. Freakin' baby boomers are going to ruin it for everyone.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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6ix, you are seriously screwed up in the head and I am not kidding. But let us talk about something that is not inside your head. Where would the money come from? From the people who owe it, but are cheating on their taxes:

There would not be a deficit if the IRS had sufficient number of agents to catch the cheaters. Those agents need to be paid. $458 billion in taxes go unpaid every year.
https://money.cnn.com/2016/04/29/pf/taxes/taxes-owed-tax-gap/index.htm
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The IRS has been reeling from budget cuts. Its current budget of $11.43 billion is less than in fiscal 2008, and the IRS pared about 15 percent of its workforce over the past five years. The enforcement staff has plunged by more than 25 percent since 2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service

Back to our favorite topic, those 22 million illegal aliens are still in America because Americans won't pay to remove them. If Signym & 1kiki & 6ix want them gone in 2 to 6 years time, you three have to pay. Waiting for the 22 million to die or deport themselves or cross back into Mexico then return to American and be jailed by INS is not enough to solve this problem in 6 years time. That only means removing 4 million illegal aliens per year. But the system can't because Americans won't pay. It can only handle about 200,000 illegal aliens per year at current funding levels. Does Signym & 1kiki & 6ix see that 4 million is a much larger number than 200,000 illegal aliens per year?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by second:
6ix, you are seriously screwed up in the head and I am not kidding. But let us talk about something that is not inside your head.

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Not interested.

You obviously never learned anything about talking to people or being persuasive when building your business empire.

I wonder how many people you had to destroy to get where you're at.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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SECOND hates Americans, and white Americans especially. Just like WISHY hates white males.

It might be something in their past. WISHY says she was serially abused by men. Perhaps SECOND is of Hispanic origin and experienced profound prejudice in Texas as a dark-skinned Jehovah's Witness. Going further, it's possible that SECOND signed up for the military in part to "prove" his patriotism and paid for it with non-functioning ankles, so now he blames anyone who bears the slightest resemblance to those who drove him to make that fateful decision. (Nixon, Texas Republicans, Republicans in general, white Americans ...)

SECOND's tone is more specific than "virtue signaling" and more hateful than "fear". It sounds more like revenge for past grievances. It wouldn't hurt that he gets to make money by exacting his "revenge" in stupid white Americans.

FREM said something interesting many years ago, and it has stuck with me ever since. He said that people spend their adult lives fighting the fights they lost as children.

But this is all speculation.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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SECOND, you've really pissed these trolls off. These trolls who would love to throw rocks at the women and children of the caravan to keep them from passing. Good for you buddy.

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