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Monday, November 5, 2018 10:41 PM

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Signym, you blamed the immigrants. But it is the prices that are too high, not that there are too many immigrants. The U.S. health care is by far the most expensive on the planet.
I'm not posting about "the US", I'm posting about CALIFORNIA, which has one of the highest (if not THE highest) percentages of illegal aliens in the nation, and our "progressive" California politicians who're supporting "free health care" for everyone, PLUS a "sanctuary" policy.

But, if you want to extend that to the entire USA: Do you think that's a workable policy for America for the foreseeable future?

You claim to be a realist who can do math, so do the math.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Monday, November 5, 2018 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Signym, you blamed the immigrants. But it is the prices that are too high, not that there are too many immigrants. The U.S. health care is by far the most expensive on the planet.
I'm not posting about "the US", I'm posting about CALIFORNIA, which has one of the highest (if not THE highest) percentages of illegal aliens in the nation, and our "progressive" California politicians who're supporting "free health care" for everyone, PLUS a "sanctuary" policy.

But, if you want to extend that to the entire USA: Do you think that's a workable policy for America for the foreseeable future?

You claim to be a realist who can do math, so do the math.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

I have no problem with Trump building his wall and deporting all 11 to 22 million illegal aliens. The Democrats are not going to do this for him, and I don't blame them for not helping. The work is all on Trump and he has the resources to do it. But Trump is NOT building the wall and NOT deporting aliens by the millions. He keeps bragging about a few thousand he catches every month. He should be placing the majority of his men to work on the majority of his problem: removing millions per month. Do you see Trump doing that? I would love to see Trump try. And, again, if Hillary was President there would be no reason for her to make the GOP's and Signym's priorities about immigrants her priorities as President. Signym, your priorities are as nutty as Trump's and the GOP's.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 5, 2018 11:21 PM

I agree with you: I think Trump should be more aggressive about deporting illegal aliens. And I don't know if he needs to build the kind of wall that he's envisioned, but we really need to secure our border and end those unrealistic "catch and release" policies.

But, as usual, you failed to address my specific point: What do you think of extending healthcare to illegal aliens, combined with a sanctuary policy?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Monday, November 5, 2018 11:26 PM

New book: Putin tried to reinforce Trump’s belief in a ‘deep state’ undermining him
https://thehill.com/policy/international/407385-new-book-putin-tried-t
o-reinforce-trumps-belief-in-a-deep-state


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Monday, November 5, 2018 11:26 PM

New book: Putin tried to reinforce Trump’s belief in a ‘deep state’ undermining him
https://thehill.com/policy/international/407385-new-book-putin-tried-t
o-reinforce-trumps-belief-in-a-deep-state


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Monday, November 5, 2018 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, as usual, you failed to address my point. What do you think of extending healthcare to illegal aliens, combined with a sanctuary policy?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Signym, your point is full of shit. You know fucking nothing, you twit. If the GOP doesn't have the money to deport the aliens, or bring Medicare for all, or move factory jobs from China to America, or whatever your daydreams are, then raise you goddamn taxes instead of promising to lower them. You can't have these things if you won't pay.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 5, 2018 11:30 PM

SECOND I edited my post, so see above for the most recent version.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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THG
Monday, November 5, 2018 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, as usual, you failed to address my point. What do you think of extending healthcare to illegal aliens, combined with a sanctuary policy?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Signym, your point is full of shit. You know fucking nothing, you twit. If the GOP doesn't have the money to deport the aliens, or bring Medicare for all, then raise you goddamn tax instead of promising to lower them. You can't have these things if you won't pay.




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Monday, November 5, 2018 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND I edited my post, so see above for the most recent version.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Signym, you are about three years too late in revising your vision for America. You voted for Trump, now he has to delivery. If it requires him to revise his methods, and increase taxes, to get to his and your goals, too damn bad. The Democrats aren't going to do the work for you and Trump. And they aren't changing their vision to match yours. It is all yours. It is your problem to solve. Do something with it, even if you have to place yourself under an uncomfortable, even painful amount of strain.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 5, 2018 11:53 PM

He just makes it up.

Trump insists non-citizens sneak into the country and vote illegally in pre-election rant
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/trump-insists-non-citizens-sneak-into
-the-country-and-vote-illegally-in-pre-election-rant/?utm_source=push_notifications

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