The Caravan, The Deficit, The 14th Amendment and the Trump Narrative
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SECOND, I voted for Trump to do THREE THINGS. Do you recall what those were? I certainly repeated them often enough!
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There were three things I was hoping Trump would accomplish, because I believe they're extremely important and because they're in any President's purview of foreign policy:
1) Kill TPP and TTIP. DONE. Those would have given up our sovereignty to trade tribunals. Also, it would be nice to extricate ourselves from NAFTA, CAFTA, and other "free trade" agreements.
2) Reverse illegal immigration. IN PROCESS.
3) End our endless wars. FAILURE.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61953&p=3
I didn't specify HOW Trump should reverse illegal immigration, but I will tell you that part of that effort HAS to be changing our policies, because until you change policy you'll simply be doing the same things over and over again with no permanent result ... yanno, kind of like housework. To that effect, I applaud any effort that Trump makes towards changing our policies, in addition to any effort he makes at securing our borders and deporting illegal aliens. The policy changes that Trump has proposed either have been, or still need to be, tested in court.
Now, I've asked you several times what YOU think of some of our CA politicians' proposed policies on healthcare (FREE for everyone!) and implemented policies on sanctuary. Not what the Dem party should or shouldn't do, but what YOU think.
You DO think, don't you?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Troop Deployment to the Border Will Cost $220 Million, and the Pentagon Seems to Think It’s a Waste
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/troop-deployment-border-co
st-estimate-no-threat.html
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Quote:Wow, $220 million?
Troop Deployment to the Border Will Cost $220 Million, and the Pentagon Seems to Think It’s a Waste
Gee, that's ...
Less than the cost of just one fighter jet
Less than five-hundreths of a percent of the F-35 program
Less than two-hundreths of a percent on what we spent on Iraq
Less than one-one thousandth of a percent of unaccounted Federal expenditures
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Ooooooops.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Cost: which is driven up by people with large needs who are not contributing to the system.
Signym, CA's version of Medicare for all will not be passed AND the blame does not rest upon illegal immigrants being allowed to use it by shortsighted politicians. The fault is the cost.
As I mentioned earlier, between myself and my hubby, our employers were contributing about $5200 per month for three people. That's over 4X what would be required for expen$ive individual policies for three people. If this were expressed as a "tax" it would sound huge, but because it's an employer "contribution" to an insurance company it doesn't get the attention it deserves.
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I ran across a talk radio program that I never listened to before (KABC 790) and the topic that I landed on happened to be about illegal immigration.
Talk Radio?
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Quote:Stuck in a jam, trying to find an all-news station to get a traffic report.
Ooooooops. Talk Radio?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Quote:What do I think about California's proposed policies on healthcare or anything? Why would I care? It's not my state of Texas. I don't care what CA does, except where it affects me: in Congress and the White House. The fewer Republicans California sends to DC the better.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, I voted for Trump to do THREE THINGS. Do you recall what those were? I certainly repeated them often enough!Quote:
There were three things I was hoping Trump would accomplish, because I believe they're extremely important and because they're in any President's purview of foreign policy:
1) Kill TPP and TTIP. DONE. Those would have given up our sovereignty to trade tribunals. Also, it would be nice to extricate ourselves from NAFTA, CAFTA, and other "free trade" agreements.
2) Reverse illegal immigration. IN PROCESS.
3) End our endless wars. FAILURE.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61953&p=3
I didn't specify HOW Trump should reverse illegal immigration, but I will tell you that part of that effort HAS to be changing our policies, because until you change policy you'll simply be doing the same things over and over again with no permanent result ... yanno, kind of like housework. To that effect, I applaud any effort that Trump makes towards changing our policies, in addition to any effort he makes at securing our borders and deporting illegal aliens. The policy changes that Trump has proposed either have been, or still need to be, tested in court.
Now, I've asked you several times what YOU think of some of our CA politicians' proposed policies on healthcare (FREE for everyone!) and implemented policies on sanctuary. Not what the Dem party should or shouldn't do, but what YOU think.
You DO think, don't you?
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Wow, you grab complaints and headlines from all over the USA to support your endless ... and boy, do I mean ENDLESS ... bitching and griping about Republicans. no matter where they are, or how distant the issues from you, or even whether or not your complaints contradict each other or make the slightest sense... but when time comes to admitting that maybe some Dems are proposing a stupid policy, suddenly it's "NMP"*. (Not My Problem)
What do I think about California's proposed policies on healthcare or anything? Why would I care? It's not my state of Texas. I don't care what CA does
And you complain about the average American being a weather-vane and not remembering what happened a month ago? Jeez, you can't even remember what you posted an HOUR ago!
*ETA: n-methylpyrrolidone.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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SECOND operates on blind hatred of republicans, which is why SECOND's turned blindly to democrats. That's why pre-2016 election SECOND pointedly refused to discuss Hillary's shortcomings, the DNC's corruption, the ludicrous Platform ... or anything at all faulty with a 'D' attached to it. It's why SECOND got so butt-hurt when Trump won. It's why SECOND refuses to discuss disastrous 'democratic' policies, why SECOND won't acknowledge illegal immigration is a problem - in short, why SECOND acts like a brain-dead troll.
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Hey Kiki, not to defend anyone or any such nonsense. I do have a question regarding your reply, and this goes for Signym as well.
If what you say about Second blindly following Dems and refusing to accept the alleged shortcomings of the DNC is true. Then that would mean, and correct me if I am wrong on this, wouldn't the opposite be true on your part. Or should I say, that you blindly support the ideals and actions of the Republican party?
Again, just curious, although I think I know the answer.
SGG
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SECOND operates on blind hatred of republicans, which is why SECOND's turned blindly to democrats. That's why pre-2016 election SECOND pointedly refused to discuss Hillary's shortcomings, the DNC's corruption, the ludicrous Platform ... or anything at all faulty with a 'D' attached to it. It's why SECOND got so butt-hurt when Trump won. It's why SECOND refuses to discuss disastrous 'democratic' policies, why SECOND won't acknowledge illegal immigration is a problem - in short, why SECOND acts like a brain-dead troll.
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Quote:Was this meant to be a rhetorical question? Because you imply that you think the answer is "yes", but if you REALLY knew my posting history, you'd know that I tore GWB a new hole pretty much every time I posted here because I thought his foreign, fiscal, environmental, economic, and social policies were 100% idiocy. But then, I also thought he was Cheney's sock puppet. Let me go into the wayback machine for some examples for you, just to show you that I'm not blowing smoke
Hey Kiki, not to defend anyone or any such nonsense. I do have a question regarding your reply, and this goes for Signym as well.
If what you say about Second blindly following Dems and refusing to accept the alleged shortcomings of the DNC is true. Then that would mean, and correct me if I am wrong on this, wouldn't the opposite be true on your part. Or should I say, that you blindly support the ideals and actions of the Republican party?
Again, just curious, although I think I know the answer.- SGG
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Darth Cheney
His fingerprints are all over everything... from the OSP (Office of Special Plans) which "vetted" Iraq intelligence (bypassing the usual security agencies) to this...
WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney's office pushed for major deletions in congressional testimony on the public health consequences of climate change, fearing the presentation by a leading health official might make it harder to avoid regulating greenhouse gases, a former EPA officials maintains
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Hoo yeah! The economy's ON FIRE!
But not in a good way.
Big selloff on Wall Street
Dow, down 360 pts.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/07/markets/markets_405/index.htm
Dollar hits new lows, lashed by China reserves view
www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSKIM17880720071107
Biggest Slump in US Housing in the Last 40 Years
www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/142759
We have eight years of Bush's aggressive "trickle down" economics to thank.
THANKS, MR. BUSH!
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Katrina-related accusations Part II
My temper is not what it used to be. I'm quite frankly fed up with Bush apologists who minimize at every turn Bush and his henchmen's (or is it Cheney and his henchmen's) perfectly deliberate and fully-aware complicity in the biggest disasters of their reign. Katrina is only one of these many disasters.
This is not "bureaucracy-as-usual" incompetence. The videotapes of Bush's disengaged- one might even say glazed- response to looming disaster, and his effing excuses ("No one could have predicted....") for failure, are remarkably similar to Secretary O'Neill's first-hand account of a President who appears swamped by anything that requires an actual decision.
Have argued long and hard that Reagan's "trickle down" Laffer-curve-based policies were sheer "voodoo economics".
In general, I'm opposed to almost everything that Republicans stand for, and have been a registered Democrat my entire voting life.
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I think the same could be said for KIKI. KIKI is a strong advocate for taking action on climate change ... definitely NOT a GOP position.
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You guys see this? Do you see this? I expect apologies and six-packs from each one of ya. - Terry
Dante's Peak
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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