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The Caravan, The Deficit, The 14th Amendment and the Trump Narrative

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Thursday, November 1, 2018 1:51 PM

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U.S. Constitution

Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.



Of course, Trump is using this latest little venture to distract folks from the fact that the National Deficit is at an All-Time High. But he cannot affect change in this regard, Congress has charge over this, so no amount of
Executive Orders can change that. My guess is that he will try to bring it
before SCOTUS.

https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-budget-deficit-3305783

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The World Bank found that if the debt-to-GDP ratio exceeds this tipping point for an extended period of time, it slows the economy. Every percentage point of debt above this level costs the country 1.7 percent in economic growth.



SGG



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Thursday, November 1, 2018 3:24 PM

lol. I think your thread title distracts folks from your point.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:48 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-budget-deficit-3305783

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The World Bank found that if the debt-to-GDP ratio exceeds this tipping point for an extended period of time, it slows the economy. Every percentage point of debt above this level costs the country 1.7 percent in economic growth.

SGG

Weird that you would bring this up at this time.

I already made clear that, despite these known repercussions, Obama spent 8 years continuing to bloat the Debt while strangling the Economy. And with Trump's First Budget the percentage was cut into, the difference between Debt and GDP reduced.
And now, only last Friday, was the report issued that Trump's First full FY has cut even more, reducing the Excess by as much as 25%.

Are you starting to extoll the virtues of Trump's Economic Policies?

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Friday, November 2, 2018 2:19 PM

Really!? Hmmmmm, would you care to explain? How so?


SGG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. I think your thread title distracts folks from your point.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 2, 2018 2:20 PM

You did!? I must have missed that one.

And no.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-budget-deficit-3305783

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The World Bank found that if the debt-to-GDP ratio exceeds this tipping point for an extended period of time, it slows the economy. Every percentage point of debt above this level costs the country 1.7 percent in economic growth.

SGG

Weird that you would bring this up at this time.

I already made clear that, despite these known repercussions, Obama spent 8 years continuing to bloat the Debt while strangling the Economy. And with Trump's First Budget the percentage was cut into, the difference between Debt and GDP reduced.
And now, only last Friday, was the report issued that Trump's First full FY has cut even more, reducing the Excess by as much as 25%.

Are you starting to extoll the virtues of Trump's Economic Policies?

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Friday, November 2, 2018 2:22 PM

Because your topic title has nothing to do with your point.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 3, 2018 7:47 PM

Upon further review, you make a good point, because I was trying to identify a pattern/tactic commonly used by Trump of drawing attention away from one unpopular policy move to another.

I'm normally sensitive to that and careful to create topic titles that reflect my thinking on the subject matter. So, point taken.

My post was meant to show the media manipulation by Trump and how it relates to the immigration issue and the "caravan." It is indeed poorly conceived, set up and executed. I stand corrected.

Hmmm, this is interesting.


SGG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Because your topic title has nothing to do with your point.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 3, 2018 9:37 PM

You CAN re-title your thread. When you open the thread, in the upper right-hand corner you - as the thread author- will see an "EDIT THREAD" link. If you click on that, it will bring up your OP in editable format, INCLUDING the title. Just delete what you don't want, type in what you meant to say, hit "UPDATE", and you'll be done.

I suggest something like "Trump uses caravan to distract from deficit" or something like; that will be a lot more in line with what you intended to discuss I think.

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Sunday, November 4, 2018 9:51 AM

Thanks Sigs, there's a first time for everything, but I do appreciate your input. Yours and Six.


SGG


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You CAN re-title your thread. When you open the thread, in the upper right-hand corner you - as the thread author- will see an "EDIT THREAD" link. If you click on that, it will bring up your OP in editable format, INCLUDING the title. Just delete what you don't want, type in what you meant to say, hit "UPDATE", and you'll be done.

I suggest something like "Trump uses caravan to distract from deficit" or something like; that will be a lot more in line with what you intended to discuss I think.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Sunday, November 4, 2018 10:07 AM

I chose a title that I think better reflects what I think the tactics Trump uses to refocus attention to and from the sensitive topics of the day. For Trump, they are the caravan, the immigration/14th Amendment (his latest distraction effort), and the deficit (which is tied into the economy, and
which Trump is dying to distract attention away from).

It is all connected, and somehow Trump manages to "spin those dishes" without dropping nary a one. But something tells me he's going to run out of time.
Sooner rather than later.


SGG

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