How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt?

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, September 17, 2018 12:39 PM

REAVERFAN

Monday, September 17, 2018 6:45 PM

It's fun watching you fail.

SECOND

Monday, September 17, 2018 7:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I cannot start this list at the moment.

This is a reminder for me.

I will try to list them.

That is a mighty weak attempt to be Donald Trump’s mouthpiece. Donald, yesterday, wrote:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The illegal Mueller Witch Hunt continues in search of a crime. There was never Collusion with Russia, except by the Clinton campaign, so the 17 Angry Democrats are looking at anything they can find. Very unfair and BAD for the country. ALSO, not allowed under the LAW!
7:20 AM - 16 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1041330897948160002

When did he pass the bar? Does he really think the investigation would have been allowed to go on all this time if it were "illegal"? I checked. It is not illegal:

Appointment of special counsel to investigate Russian interference with the 2016 presidential election and related matters, including any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Spec
ial-Counsel-Russia.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, September 17, 2018 8:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I cannot start this list at the moment.

This is a reminder for me.

I will try to list them.

Got one for you - a thread that is definitely wasted on the Mueller witch hunt:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62681

How do you know what Mueller knows? Or Putin? Or Trump - or any of the little Trumplings? What was that meeting at Trump Tower, if not collusion? "We have dirt on Hillary."

Can you answer any of those?

REAVERFAN

Monday, September 17, 2018 9:09 PM

Paul Manafort plea deal has Trump team 'terrified,' analysts say

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/16/man
afort-deal-reaction/1328025002/

1KIKI

Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Paul Manafort plea deal has Trump team 'terrified,' analysts say

"Trump team is 'terrified' by Manafort plea deal, Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff says""Norman Eisen, who acted as ethics czar for former President Barack Obama, said ...""Ken Starr, the former judge whose work as independent counsel led to the impeachment of President Bill Clinton (opined)"

'analysts' - you mean a lot of self-appointed bloviators with no real information about what is actually happening in the Trump WH

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, September 18, 2018 4:20 AM

1KIKI

Tuesday, September 18, 2018 4:40 AM

You mean you've got nothing intelligent to say? I'm not surprised.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

THG

Tuesday, September 18, 2018 5:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:

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SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, September 21, 2018 7:42 PM

Whenever Donald, or others, post "witch hunt" it's a weak attempt at deflecting the obvious. Both he and his followers (the kissers of ass) gaslight to draw attention away from their illegal activities, greedy
behavior and all around treasonous acts.

They, of course, fail miserably.

sgg

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I cannot start this list at the moment.

This is a reminder for me.

I will try to list them.
That is a mighty weak attempt to be Donald Trump’s mouthpiece. Donald, yesterday, wrote:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The illegal Mueller Witch Hunt continues in search of a crime. There was never Collusion with Russia, except by the Clinton campaign, so the 17 Angry Democrats are looking at anything they can find. Very unfair and BAD for the country. ALSO, not allowed under the LAW!
7:20 AM - 16 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1041330897948160002

When did he pass the bar? Does he really think the investigation would have been allowed to go on all this time if it were "illegal"? I checked. It is not illegal:

Appointment of special counsel to investigate Russian interference with the 2016 presidential election and related matters, including any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Spec
ial-Counsel-Russia.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Friday, September 21, 2018 8:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Whenever Donald, or others, post "witch hunt" it's a weak attempt at deflecting the obvious. Both he and his followers (the kissers of ass) gaslight to draw attention away from their illegal activities, greedy
behavior and all around treasonous acts.

They, of course, fail miserably.

sgg

I wish Trump would fire Jeff Sessions before the 2018 election, rather than after, but I think Trump is smart enough, barely, to wait three months. A new Attorney General replacing Sessions would take over supervising Mueller, who is now being supervised by deputy attorney general Rod J. Rosenstein. I am certain that Trump would pick a new Attorney General who would make it very clear that he does not want Mueller to investigate Trump. It might not be clear during confirmation hearings for the new attorney general, but it would be once Trump's choice is sworn into the job. The beginning of the end of the Witch Hunt is firing Jeff Sessions. I believe Trump is getting ready to do it:

During a freewheeling interview, Trump said that Sessions performed “very poorly” during his confirmation process and only squeaked by with one vote (which is untrue; he was confirmed by a 52-47 vote).

Trump went further, saying, “I don’t have an attorney general. It’s very sad,” adding that “my worst enemies, I mean, people that, you know, are on the other side of me, in a lot of ways including politically, have said that was a very unfair thing he did” in recusing himself from Mueller's investigation. Trump concluded, “I’m very disappointed in Jeff. Very disappointed.”

More at www.vox.com/2018/9/20/17878696/jeff-sessions-trump-protection-russia-m
ueller-lawyer

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, September 21, 2018 11:14 PM

I honestly hope that Trump really isn't guilty of doing anything because in the end this is all going nowhere and it's because of how the Left and the Media have behaved the last two years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I honestly hope that Trump really isn't guilty of doing anything because in the end this is all going nowhere and it's because of how the Left and the Media have behaved the last two years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If Republicans do well in the midterms, holding a House majority and gaining a Senate seat or two, they are going to try to govern the country. They will make another stab at repealing the Affordable Care Act, enact a new round of tax cuts, and move to cut safety-net programs like SNAP.

There’s a problem with this program of cutting taxes for the rich in order to cut useful programs for the rest is: It’s unpopular. So when Hannity asks Trump to explain why people should vote Republican, Trump can’t bother to cite any of their actual policy agenda:

HANNITY: What do you say to those people that love you but maybe aren’t so hot on the Republican House or Senate member?

TRUMP: You have to go out and vote. We need more Republicans. We will get everything we want, but we need more Republicans. Want to protect your Second Amendment, everything, protect all of the great success that you have had over the last little more than a year and a half, think of it, we are coming up — can you believe it — on two years.

Another tactic is to make up fake positions and attribute them to his opponents, as when Trump says, “The Democrats, they want open borders, people coming in, that means crime.”

Last but by no means least, Trump observes that “the stock market today hit the highest level in its history” and then says a Democratic Congress will crash the market for no reason: “401(k)s are up, 57 percent in a short period of time. If the Democrats get in, those numbers will be cut in half. You will see bad things.”

www.foxnews.com/transcript/2018/09/20/president-trump-talks-kavanaugh-
controversy-russia-probe.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I honestly hope that Trump really isn't guilty of doing anything because in the end this is all going nowhere and it's because of how the Left and the Media have behaved the last two years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
If Republicans do well in the midterms, holding a House majority and gaining a Senate seat or two, they are going to try to govern the country. They will make another stab at repealing the Affordable Care Act, enact a new round of tax cuts, and move to cut safety-net programs like SNAP.

There’s a problem with this program of cutting taxes for the rich in order to cut useful programs for the rest is: It’s unpopular. So when Hannity asks Trump to explain why people should vote Republican, Trump can’t bother to cite any of their actual policy agenda:

HANNITY: What do you say to those people that love you but maybe aren’t so hot on the Republican House or Senate member?

TRUMP: You have to go out and vote. We need more Republicans. We will get everything we want, but we need more Republicans. Want to protect your Second Amendment, everything, protect all of the great success that you have had over the last little more than a year and a half, think of it, we are coming up — can you believe it — on two years.

Another tactic is to make up fake positions and attribute them to his opponents, as when Trump says, “The Democrats, they want open borders, people coming in, that means crime.”

Last but by no means least, Trump observes that “the stock market today hit the highest level in its history” and then says a Democratic Congress will crash the market for no reason: “401(k)s are up, 57 percent in a short period of time. If the Democrats get in, those numbers will be cut in half. You will see bad things.”

www.foxnews.com/transcript/2018/09/20/president-trump-talks-kavanaugh-
controversy-russia-probe.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I'll just respond to this by saying that I know the Republicans are full of shit as well, and I've always said that our government works better when no one party has the majority and they're too busy fighting each other.

I'm not going to be happy with the outcome if the Republicans maintain a hard majority down the line. I just don't see it turning out any other way because the Democratic Party and MSM have become so toxic that they can't even win against a Trump white house.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, September 29, 2018 1:32 PM

Well, the clock is ticking toward that fateful day there 6ix and hope's all
you got.
But how's it going nowhere and when? The left? really!? and the Media!? Gee,
I always thought that you guys believed that once you had control of all 3
branches of government, it would be smooth as ice to guide the country to
winning!!!

"We'd be winning so much, that people would say, please...this is too much
winning."

One question: are we there yet?

sgg

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I honestly hope that Trump really isn't guilty of doing anything because in the end this is all going nowhere and it's because of how the Left and the Media have behaved the last two years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Saturday, September 29, 2018 1:39 PM

Quote:
I'm not going to be happy with the outcome if the Republicans maintain a hard majority down the line. I just don't see it turning out any other way because the Democratic Party and MSM have become so toxic that they can't even win against a Trump white house.

What!? that statement makes no sense at all.

So, the Right is in control of the WH, Congress and Senate (and judicial) and
you're still not happy? because of the Dems and Media (is that ALL Media?).
So, basically you want Dems completely out of the picture. Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better.

SGG

1KIKI

Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:38 PM

Apparently you can't read English.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well, the clock is ticking toward that fateful day there 6ix and hope's all
you got.

I got a lot more than that. I have no stake in this game at all. Doesn't matter to me what happens.

Quote:
But how's it going nowhere and when? The left? really!? and the Media!? Gee,
I always thought that you guys believed that once you had control of all 3
branches of government, it would be smooth as ice to guide the country to
winning!!!

There you go doing that "you guys" thing again.

I've always said that our government is at its "best" when the branches are split and they can't get anything done or passed because they're in a gridlock.

I even just said it again in the first paragraph that you didn't quote here in your response. lol.

Quote:
"We'd be winning so much, that people would say, please...this is too much winning."

Well... we're not losing. I'm happy with things not getting any worse while I spend my own time doing productive things and improving my own life.

Quote:
One question: are we there yet?

Can't speak for anyone else, but I am.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:34 AM

OK, finally finished the OP.

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better.

SGG

Oh, I soooo wish.
One side will be educated with clean air and water and nice roads and people (let's make sure the Rethugs are downwind and downstream btw) and the other side will be full of ignorant cults that chain women to the stove to give birth to all the chemically riddled mutated babies because science is bad and consumer protections keep the overlords from making their millions.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better.

SGG

Oh, I soooo wish.
One side will be educated with clean air and water and nice roads and people (let's make sure the Rethugs are downwind and downstream btw) and the other side will be full of ignorant cults that chain women to the stove to give birth to all the chemically riddled mutated babies because science is bad and consumer protections keep the overlords from making their millions.

Golly.
BungBetty has never visited a City, where the dregs of society reside, Murder and rape each other, glomming off Nanny-State handouts?
And she has also never visited the rural agronomy, where Conservatives harness and husband the fresh water and environs to provide more food than a nation of Cities can consume.

BungBetty really remains sheltered beyond belief.

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

BungBetty has never visited a City, where the dregs of society reside, Murder and rape each other, glomming off Nanny-State handouts?

Yep, I've been to the South. You know... the Rethug states like Louisiana, Tennessee, and Mississippi that repeatedly top the lists for most welfare, lowest quality of life, least education, most obesity??

I'm sure in your mind farmers are altruistic, but you DO actually know that most of them do it for MONEY, right? And usually... getting that money AT ANY COST TO THE ENVIRONMENT?

There has been a 90% reduction in the Monarch butterfly population in the United States that can be linked to weed killers that contain glyphosate.

There is also some speculation that genetically-modified plants may leak chemical compounds into soil through their roots, possibly affecting communities of microorganisms.

On a global scale, 2 million tons of sewage, agricultural and industrial waste enters the world’s water every day

It is estimated that agriculture may be responsible for half of the nitrogen fixation on earth, primarily through the use and production of man-made fertilizers.

Arcane laws actually encourage farmers to take even more water from the Colorado River and from California's rivers than they actually need, and federal subsidies encourage farmers to plant some of the crops that use the most water.

Farmers AIN'T saints 'cause they grow shit, genius...

SIGNYM

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 12:00 PM

Quote:
How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt? ... Another 13. Total of 164. - JSF

Too effing many!

What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump?

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 12:03 PM

Farmers aren't evil by trade either.

A lot of farmers initially didn't use the Monsanto genetically modified seeds at first, but the old seeds were prone to being killed off by the Monsanto variety. These seeds, like any others travel everywhere as well, but unlike natural seeds they self-pollinate and actually kill bees that try to pollinate them.

Monstanto started suing the farmers who did not buy their seeds for selling their products because there is no way to keep outside seeds from germinating outdoors and it's not as if our food is grown in greenhouses.

Farmers ain't rich either. The government sets the prices of the goods when they sell them. The only way they can make more is by selling individually on a local basis and competing with the subsidized prices in the stores.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 12:04 PM

Quote:
I'm not going to be happy with the outcome if the Republicans maintain a hard majority down the line. I just don't see it turning out any other way because the Democratic Party and MSM have become so toxic that they can't even win against a Trump white house. - SIX

What!? that statement makes no sense at all.
So, the Right is in control of the WH, Congress and Senate (and judicial) and
you're still not happy? because of the Dems and Media (is that ALL Media?).
So, basically you want Dems completely out of the picture. Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better. - SGG

Apparently you can't read English. - KIKI

SHINY, you have a baaad case of "arguing with the voices in your head". Those voices are so strong, they're preventing you from even hearing what someone else is saying, and recognizing that it is NOT what you think!

Take a deep breath and this time, try to quiet your mind long enough to comprehend what someone else is posting.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 12:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt? ... Another 13. Total of 164. - JSF
Too effing many!

What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump?

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

AIL

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:04 PM

BungBetty!? WTF!?

sgg

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better.

SGG

Oh, I soooo wish.
One side will be educated with clean air and water and nice roads and people (let's make sure the Rethugs are downwind and downstream btw) and the other side will be full of ignorant cults that chain women to the stove to give birth to all the chemically riddled mutated babies because science is bad and consumer protections keep the overlords from making their millions.
Golly.
BungBetty has never visited a City, where the dregs of society reside, Murder and rape each other, glomming off Nanny-State handouts?
And she has also never visited the rural agronomy, where Conservatives harness and husband the fresh water and environs to provide more food than a nation of Cities can consume.

BungBetty really remains sheltered beyond belief.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:13 PM

It never fails to amaze me.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
I'm not going to be happy with the outcome if the Republicans maintain a hard majority down the line. I just don't see it turning out any other way because the Democratic Party and MSM have become so toxic that they can't even win against a Trump white house. - SIX

What!? that statement makes no sense at all.
So, the Right is in control of the WH, Congress and Senate (and judicial) and
you're still not happy? because of the Dems and Media (is that ALL Media?).
So, basically you want Dems completely out of the picture. Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better. - SGG

Apparently you can't read English. - KIKI

SHINY, you have a baaad case of "arguing with the voices in your head". Those voices are so strong, they're preventing you from even hearing what someone else is saying, and recognizing that it is NOT what you think!

Take a deep breath and this time, try to quiet your mind long enough to comprehend what someone else is posting.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:20 PM

This is pointless.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well, the clock is ticking toward that fateful day there 6ix and hope's all
you got.

I got a lot more than that. I have no stake in this game at all. Doesn't matter to me what happens.

Quote:
But how's it going nowhere and when? The left? really!? and the Media!? Gee,
I always thought that you guys believed that once you had control of all 3
branches of government, it would be smooth as ice to guide the country to
winning!!!

There you go doing that "you guys" thing again.

I've always said that our government is at its "best" when the branches are split and they can't get anything done or passed because they're in a gridlock.

I even just said it again in the first paragraph that you didn't quote here in your response. lol.

Quote:
"We'd be winning so much, that people would say, please...this is too much winning."

Well... we're not losing. I'm happy with things not getting any worse while I spend my own time doing productive things and improving my own life.

Quote:
One question: are we there yet?

Can't speak for anyone else, but I am.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:22 PM

Well, I guess we all have to curl up into a big ball and die.

That's Life!

sgg

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt? ... Another 13. Total of 164. - JSF
Too effing many!

What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump?

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well, I guess we all have to curl up into a big ball and die.

That's Life!

sgg

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt? ... Another 13. Total of 164. - JSF
Too effing many!

What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump?

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

Spouting Q anon conspiracy nonsense does not give it credibility, Russian troll.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:00 PM

Now you're getting it.

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is pointless.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well, the clock is ticking toward that fateful day there 6ix and hope's all
you got.

I got a lot more than that. I have no stake in this game at all. Doesn't matter to me what happens.

Quote:
But how's it going nowhere and when? The left? really!? and the Media!? Gee,
I always thought that you guys believed that once you had control of all 3
branches of government, it would be smooth as ice to guide the country to
winning!!!

There you go doing that "you guys" thing again.

I've always said that our government is at its "best" when the branches are split and they can't get anything done or passed because they're in a gridlock.

I even just said it again in the first paragraph that you didn't quote here in your response. lol.

Quote:
"We'd be winning so much, that people would say, please...this is too much winning."

Well... we're not losing. I'm happy with things not getting any worse while I spend my own time doing productive things and improving my own life.

Quote:
One question: are we there yet?

Can't speak for anyone else, but I am.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
BungBetty!? WTF!?

JSF is terrified someone might enjoy sex in any other fashion than missionary position, butt at the same time spends a lot of time obsessing about gays and what they might be doing.

Typical in-the-closet Rethug behavior.

I can't even imagine what his porn habits entail. Something Amish, I'm sure. Oooh Greta...show us your earlobes

SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:05 AM

Quote:
JSF is terrified someone might enjoy sex in any other fashion than missionary position, butt at the same time spends a lot of time obsessing about gays and what they might be doing.

Typical in-the-closet Rethug behavior.

I can't even imagine what his porn habits entail. Something Amish, I'm sure. Oooh Greta...show us your earlobes

WISHY, can I give you a piece of advice? Never mud-wrestle a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:08 AM

Quote:
What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump? - SIGNY

Well, I guess we all have to curl up into a big ball and die.- SHINY

"We all"?
Speak for yourself!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 17, 2018 3:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it.

I don't mind roasting a pig every now and then

SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 17, 2018 4:54 AM

Quote:
I don't mind roasting a pig every now and then. - WISHY

You may think you roasted a pig, I think you just made a fool of yourself. But hey, feel free!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think you just made a fool of yourself.

> I < made a fool of myself?? by contesting that farmers are glorified stewards of the land, by pointing out their only concern...LIKE EVERYONE ELSE....is making money??

I see nothing ever changes here...yer still an idiot...

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think you just made a fool of yourself.

> I < made a fool of myself?? by contesting that farmers are glorified stewards of the land, by pointing out their only concern...LIKE EVERYONE ELSE....is making money??

I see nothing ever changes here...yer still an idiot...

Yep, that new Get Rich Quick Scheme: farming.
If that were true, then every dairy farmer would have switched to BGH.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:49 PM

This is a Tyler Durden story ... in other words, we don't know who wrote it, and there are only two links to background information. Most of the article appears to be a rewrite of the Bloomberg article that they link. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-17/mueller-said-ready-
to-deliver-key-findings-in-his-trump-probe

But if true, we will probably be writing many more threads about the Mueller probe some time after the election.

Quote:
Mueller Probe Is In Its 'Final Weeks', Expected To Wrap Up After Midterms

Following reports earlier this month that three prosecutors from the office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller have been reassigned to their previous postings within the Department of Justice (and another has left the DoJ entirely for a research fellowship at Columbia Law School), it appears the Mueller probe, which has persisted for roughly 18 months, has entered its final weeks, with sources within the DoJ telling Bloomberg that a final report on Mueller's findings regarding the probe's two most important threads - whether President Trump obstructed justice during the firing of James Comey and whether the Trump Campaign actively colluded with the Russian government - could be submitted to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein shortly after the midterm election.

However, this doesn't mean that investigations and indictments stemming from Mueller's findings will come to a stop: Mueller has long since started delegating different aspects of his investigation (for the example, the investigation into Michael Cohen that yielded a guilty plea in August) to other prosecutors, and still could pursue an in-person interview with Trump, despite having submitted a list of written questions to Trump's legal team (questions about the firing of James Comey and President Trump's tweets have been declared off limits). Though the DOJ's policy of not indicting a sitting president could stymie any attempt to secure a grand jury subpoena.

Department of Justice guidelines suggest that prosecutors should avoid releasing politically sensitive details to the public directly ahead of an election, which is why Mueller will probably wait to wrap things up until after Nov. 6. Though there's no guarantee that Mueller's findings will ever be made public, since Rosenstein is under no obligation to release them (but if he doesn't, it's almost guaranteed that they will leak). Rosenstein has reportedly made it clear to Mueller that he wants him to wrap up the investigation as "expeditiously as possible." If no more indictments are forthcoming, it's expected that Mueller will move to shut the probe down.

With three weeks to go before the midterm elections, it’s unlikely Mueller will take any overt action that could be turned into a campaign issue. Justice Department guidelines say prosecutors should avoid any major steps close to an election that could be seen as influencing the outcome.

That suggests the days and weeks immediately after the Nov. 6 election may be the most pivotal time since Mueller took over the Russia investigation almost a year and a half ago. So far, Mueller has secured more than two dozen indictments or guilty pleas.

Trump’s frustration with the probe, which he routinely derides as a “witch hunt,” has been growing, prompting concerns he may try to shut down or curtail Mueller’s work at some point.

And since Mueller has been tight-lipped about his biggest bombshells dating all the way back to the Manafort indictment, it's possible that there have been "other major developments behind the scenes." Insiders have said that Manafort's plea deal, struc to avoid a trial in a Washington court following his conviction in Virginia, may have "advanced" Mueller's timeline in the collusion probe.

And whatever Manafort offered the Mueller probe to secure his plea deal, odds are it's "something good."

Manafort appears to have good material to offer, said Samuel Bue

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WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Yep, that new Get Rich Quick Scheme: farming.
If that were true, then every dairy farmer would have switched to BGH.

In many places it IS. And has been going on for DECADES.

How many farmers have been paid for NOT planting to combat soil erosion?
The CRP costs taxpayers almost $2 billion a year.

How many farmers get paid to dump milk?
In the period 1980-85, the US government spent an average of $2.1 billion every year buying surplus milk

How many people have been paid to not farm land that hasn't been farmed in years?
Nationwide, the federal government has paid at least $1.3 billion in subsidies for rice and other crops since 2000 to individuals who do no farming at all.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/01/AR2006
070100962.html?noredirect=on

The reason they HAVEN'T all switched to BGH, is that it causes more health issues than milk it creates. I'm sure if BGH was only found to make people grow a tail and triple milk production they would still be using it.

"The animals treated with the hormone are subjected to tremendous stress as a result. Normally, for about 12 weeks after a cow calves, she produces milk at the expense of her health. The cow loses weight, is infertile and is more susceptible to diseases. Eventually, milk output diminishes and the cow's body begins to recover. By injecting rBGH, a farmer can postpone that recovery for another eight to 12 weeks, substantially increasing the cow's milk output, but also rendering her more susceptible to disease.(4)"
http://www.orpheusweb.co.uk/john.rose/rbgh.html

SIGNYM

Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:41 AM

Well, one of the things I thought was interesting was the incidence of "downer cows" in the dairy industry. BGH or not, cows have been bred to pump out ginormous amounts of milk. I did a pound-per-pound comparison once, and I think it came out to a 120-lb woman pumping out 7 pounds (almost a gallon) of milk per day.

This all play havoc with the cow's metabolism because they lose so much calcium, magnesium, and sugar that they can develop a kind of flaccid paralysis which prevents them from getting up, and cows that are "down" for too long develop leg embolisms or twisted guts or some other fatal problem.

The reason why I got so interested in this is because dear daughter was getting an experimental treatment of immunoglubulin infusion, which is a blood product which is pooled from as many as 25,000 people. So if there's anything in the blood that you might catch, there's a good chance that you'll get it. They had started the infusions right about the time that "mad cow" disease was detected in Britain, and since it takes many years to incubate -and with American tourists and soldiers frequently passing from the UK to the USA - I was greatly concerned for our daughter's health. I even wrote to one of the early experts about my dilemma.

Anyway, symptoms of "mad cow" disease look an awful lot like the metabolic derangement that dairy cows suffer. I was shocked how many "downer" cows are in the dairy industry. What they've done is require that cows be able to WALK to the slaughterhouse, and they do all kinds of barbaric things to make the poor cows get up just to stagger forward across the line. If you want to see horrific abuse, I think slaughterhouses are a pretty clear example.

One thing that I just don't understand is why dairy farmers don't just get shade for their cows. Allowing cows access to shade increases milk production by something like 10-50%%. Seems like a cheap fix to me!

Oh, wait ... I'm waaaay off-topic! That will be the last post about cows in this thread, I promise!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 28, 2019 2:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt? ... Another 13. Total of 164. - JSF
Too effing many!

What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump?

I have not updated the count since 16 October, but new threads have continued to sprout unabated.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, April 24, 2019 5:56 AM

I should probably update this, since new threads continue to sprout. Like weeds.

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, April 25, 2019 10:32 AM

It's ironic, but you, most of all, have contributed to your own thread.

Brilliant!!!

sgg

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I should probably update this, since new threads continue to sprout. Like weeds.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 25, 2019 6:26 PM

People need to stop using the word irony.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Friday, April 26, 2019 5:52 AM

Was Russia’s 2016 intervention for Trump a tactical success, yet a strategic failure?
www.vox.com/2019/4/25/18516471/mueller-report-russia-hacking-trump-put
in-2016-election

On the night of Donald Trump’s victory, members of the Russian Duma reportedly burst out in applause when Trump’s election was confirmed, and Putin was spotted sipping champagne. In a speech at the Kremlin, he announced, “Russia is ready and wants to restore full-fledged relations with the US.” In the middle of the celebration, Kirill Dmitriev, the head of Russia’s sovereign wealth fund, received a text from a friend in New York: “Putin has won.”

As Mueller’s report makes clear, Putin viewed Trump and his aides as potential collaborators in his plan to restore Russia’s role as an influential global player. So, Mueller reported, “as soon as news broke that Trump had been elected President, Russian government officials and prominent Russian businessmen began trying to make inroads.”

As Robert Anderson Jr., a former top counterintelligence official with the FBI, explained in a March court document, these types of back channels “would have benefited the Russian government by enabling Russia to bypass formal channels of diplomacy, win concessions, and exert influence within the United States. Such benefits to the Russian government would have carried with them commensurate harm to the United States, including harm to the integrity of the United States’ political processes and internal government dealings, as well as to U.S. foreign policy interests and national security.”

Putin wanted Trump to lift the economic sanctions imposed to punish Russia — and its wealthy elite — for the annexation of Crimea, and to forestall the imposition of tougher sanctions. His government was pushing a Ukraine peace plan that would largely preserve the status quo, and it needed Trump’s assent to quell international and regional opposition.

For a while, the effort to create warmer relations and find a compliant partner must have looked like it was making headway.

But some of the Russians’ entreaties were ignored — partly due to dysfunction and incompetence on the part of Trump’s team.

As questions about Russian election interference began to swirl in the American media and the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Russia’s influence efforts — which had formally kicked off four months before the election — expanded, Putin’s proxies started running into walls. Flynn, who had convinced Kislyak to tell Putin to hold off on retaliation for sanctions, was booted from the White House within a month of Trump’s swearing in, after the FBI made it clear he had lied to the vice president and was a counterintelligence risk. He later pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and made a plea deal, explaining his sanctions conversations to Mueller.

Petr Aven, the oligarch chairman of the Russian Alfa-Bank, had sought — at Putin’s direction — intermediaries to push for a communications channel to improve US-Russia relations, according to the Mueller Report. But he was told in an email from Richard Burt, a former US ambassador who was on the board of one of Aven’s companies, that “with so much intense interest in the Congress and the media over the question of cyber-hacking (and who ordered what), Project A [a back channel] was too explosive to discuss.” Later, the Mueller Report states, Aven had to explain to Putin in one of their quarterly meetings that not only had he failed to establish a back channel with the new American president, he had received a subpoena from the FBI and been questioned about his efforts to do so.

Putin’s tactics worked to help bring Trump into the Oval Office, and Trump’s role as a strategic disruptor is obviously paying dividends, with America’s popular reputation provably in decline around the globe. But the overall plan may still prove a strategic failure for the Russian president. Despite attempts, even by Trump himself, to downplay Russia’s interference, the considerable evidence to the contrary dug up by Mueller has now mostly been

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 26, 2019 6:09 AM

Maybe if the sore losers could stop using the word troll, or many of the worse words they use every time they type a sentence, people would be more willing to have a conversation with them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, April 26, 2019 7:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Was Russia’s 2016 intervention for Trump a tactical success, yet a strategic failure?
www.vox.com/2019/4/25/18516471/mueller-report-russia-hacking-trump-put
in-2016-election

On the night of Donald Trump’s victory, members of the Russian Duma reportedly burst out in applause when Trump’s election was confirmed, and Putin was spotted sipping champagne. In a speech at the Kremlin, he announced, “Russia is ready and wants to restore full-fledged relations with the US.” In the middle of the celebration, Kirill Dmitriev, the head of Russia’s sovereign wealth fund, received a text from a friend in New York: “Putin has won.”

As Mueller’s report makes clear, Putin viewed Trump and his aides as potential collaborators in his plan to restore Russia’s role as an influential global player. So, Mueller reported, “as soon as news broke that Trump had been elected President, Russian government officials and prominent Russian businessmen began trying to make inroads.”

As Robert Anderson Jr., a former top counterintelligence official with the FBI, explained in a March court document, these types of back channels “would have benefited the Russian government by enabling Russia to bypass formal channels of diplomacy, win concessions, and exert influence within the United States. Such benefits to the Russian government would have carried with them commensurate harm to the United States, including harm to the integrity of the United States’ political processes and internal government dealings, as well as to U.S. foreign policy interests and national security.”

Putin wanted Trump to lift the economic sanctions imposed to punish Russia — and its wealthy elite — for the annexation of Crimea, and to forestall the imposition of tougher sanctions. His government was pushing a Ukraine peace plan that would largely preserve the status quo, and it needed Trump’s assent to quell international and regional opposition.

For a while, the effort to create warmer relations and find a compliant partner must have looked like it was making headway.

But some of the Russians’ entreaties were ignored — partly due to dysfunction and incompetence on the part of Trump’s team.

As questions about Russian election interference began to swirl in the American media and the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Russia’s influence efforts — which had formally kicked off four months before the election — expanded, Putin’s proxies started running into walls. Flynn, who had convinced Kislyak to tell Putin to hold off on retaliation for sanctions, was booted from the White House within a month of Trump’s swearing in, after the FBI made it clear he had lied to the vice president and was a counterintelligence risk. He later pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and made a plea deal, explaining his sanctions conversations to Mueller.

Petr Aven, the oligarch chairman of the Russian Alfa-Bank, had sought — at Putin’s direction — intermediaries to push for a communications channel to improve US-Russia relations, according to the Mueller Report. But he was told in an email from Richard Burt, a former US ambassador who was on the board of one of Aven’s companies, that “with so much intense interest in the Congress and the media over the question of cyber-hacking (and who ordered what), Project A [a back channel] was too explosive to discuss.” Later, the Mueller Report states, Aven had to explain to Putin in one of their quarterly meetings that not only had he failed to establish a back channel with the new American president, he had received a subpoena from the FBI and been questioned about his efforts to do so.

Putin’s tactics worked to help bring Trump into the Oval Office, and Trump’s role as a strategic disruptor is obviously paying dividends, with America’s popular reputation provably in decline around the globe. But the overall plan may still prove a strategic failure for the Russian president. Despite attempts, even by Trump himself, to downplay Russia’s interference, t

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SECOND

Friday, April 26, 2019 8:18 AM

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Anybody notice that secondbot posted that Putin & Co. tried to make inroads AFTER Trump was elected?
Accidentally stumbled into the Truth, no matter how allergic he is to it.

JewelStaiteFan, did you ever notice that Putin wanted an early meeting with Trump after the election, and was floating an agreement he wanted Trump to sign about the importance of the two nations’ ties and their commitment to working jointly on global problems — a deal that would have been a feather in the cap for a country with a fraction of Washington’s economic power.

JewelStaiteFan, if Putin had made inroads with Trump before the election, then Trump loses, Hillary would have sent Trump to Gitmo and nuked Putin in Moscow to remind him to keep his nose out of America's business. Trump isn't smart enough to know that and Putin is too smart to take the risk of angering the possibly next President enough to murder him.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, May 17, 2023 3:04 PM

The Republican Party also seem to be fake, infected with Neocons and the many who are not Neocons simply puppet clown actors, a controlled opposition shitshow

This btw is not a post in praise of the Nu-Left or Neo-Democrat mob