Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I could be wrong, but I don't think SIX pays the slightest attention to FOX news, and not a whole lot of attention to Trump. I don't recall SIX ever referring to/linking anything on FOX (unless it was linked here first), and never quoting Trump. So, I think, ONCE AGAIN YOU'RE ARGUING WITH THE VOICES IN YOUR HEAD AND NOT THE REAL PEOPLE HERE.
Of course you're wrong. Like you, 6ix likes to make bold, sweeping generalizations about the MSM and then says he never watches it. Exactly what I mean about him not having any knowledge of the things he tries to act knowledgable about. One doesn't have to watch Fox to act like one of their zombies. He voted for Trump, right? Connect the dots. He really should ask more questions and make fewer pronouncements imho.
Pronouncements like "Fuck Puerto Ricans"?
Ones that I never said you mean?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Pronouncements like "Fuck Puerto Ricans"?
Ones that I never said you mean?
You didn't write this about Puerto Rico?
"How much money should be wasted rebuilding the entire island until the next big hurricane wipes them out again, or until the sea level rises and the only people living on the island are Kevin Kostner from Waterworld?"
How they are doomed to be another Disneyland and have their culture destroyed if they take our money and rebuild? And then tell them what they should do like you have a f*cking clue of how any of that can happen, while your idea totally ignored the fact that that island is their home? Yeah, that's pretty well saying "Fuck Puerto Ricans" to me.
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Quote:LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!
So much for Chuck Todd's (MSNBC) hint about the big announcement that might be coming up. More fake news?- SIGNY
Sorry - it's just too funny you feeling cheated by Chuck Todd, had to relive it.- GSTRING
I have to wonder, GSTRING... will you EVER get out of the habit of lying with nearly every post??? Or is that defect so deeply entrenched that it will be with you for the rest of your life?
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Quote:Inauguration is after the Election? Are you sure? This does not fit the narrative. You must be spreading Fake News! (Which is how Libtards refer to Truth and Fact)
Originally posted by 1kiki:
o.m.g. Somebody who knew somebody accepted money from a Russian and a Ukrainian to get them a place to attend Trump's inauguration. Now, correct if I'm wrong, but isn't the inauguration after the election? Doesn't that mean this wasn't about Trump. Russia. Election. Collusion.
This is the longest-playing striptease ever.
C'mon Mueller. TAKE IT OFF!! TAKE IT ALL OFF! Show us what you've got!
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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Ahead of midterms, Democrats lead in cash, candidates and voters. As the runners near the 2018 vote, metrics show clear trends — an enthusiastic electorate, a diverse pool of candidates and an advantage for Democrats.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/ahead-midterms-democrats-l
ead-cash-candidates-voters-n905781
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Quote:Deja Vu?
Ahead of midterms, Democrats lead in cash, candidates and voters. As the runners near the 2018 vote, metrics show clear trends — an enthusiastic electorate, a diverse pool of candidates and an advantage for Democrats.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/ahead-midterms-democrats-l
ead-cash-candidates-voters-n905781
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Wasn't this the Libtard Spin in February? Before reality intruded?
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still wondering where the evidence is ...
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!
So much for Chuck Todd's (MSNBC) hint about the big announcement that might be coming up. More fake news?- SIGNY
Sorry - it's just too funny you feeling cheated by Chuck Todd, had to relive it.- GSTRING
I have to wonder, GSTRING... will you EVER get out of the habit of lying with nearly every post??? Or is that defect so deeply entrenched that it will be with you for the rest of your life?
Quickest way to shut SIGNYM up is to ask her: And what was "my lie?"
You didn't post this? "So much for Chuck Todd's (MSNBC) hint about the big announcement that might be coming up. More fake news? "
So, caught again lying about lying - yawn. Damn, we already know you're an unreliable person! You don't have to keep proving it!
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Quote:There is No Evidence.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
still wondering where the evidence is ...
It never existed.
It never happened.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:There is No Evidence.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
still wondering where the evidence is ...
It never existed.
It never happened.
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Quote:WAS there a big announcement before Labor Day? What was it? Or was Signy right in calling that announcement 'fake news', and you were once again ... wrong?
Quickest way to shut SIGNYM up is to ask her: And what was "my lie?"
You didn't post this? "So much for Chuck Todd's (MSNBC) hint about the big announcement that might be coming up. More fake news? "
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:WAS there a big announcement before Labor Day? What was it? Or was Signy right in calling that announcement 'fake news', and you were once again ... wrong?
Quickest way to shut SIGNYM up is to ask her: And what was "my lie?"
You didn't post this? "So much for Chuck Todd's (MSNBC) hint about the big announcement that might be coming up. More fake news? "
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Yawn ...
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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So, there WAS no pre-Labor Day 'big announcement' about Trump or Mueller or Russia or anything relevant --- despite all the breathless msm hoopla and your eager anticipation. You clowns. You're so gullible. Such eager suckers for propaganda.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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Quote:In their State of Dementia, they believe this means that there will be No Evidence forthcoming until after Election Day.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, there WAS no pre-Labor Day 'big announcement' about Trump or Mueller or Russia or anything relevant --- despite all the breathless msm hoopla and your eager anticipation. You clowns. You're so gullible. Such eager suckers for propaganda.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
Should we bank on such a respite from their nonstop gibberish factory?
How long will this moratorium on moronic nonsense hold up?
Will they develop another mantra to sustain the next months?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, there WAS no pre-Labor Day 'big announcement' about Trump or Mueller or Russia or anything relevant --- despite all the breathless msm hoopla and your eager anticipation. You clowns. You're so gullible. Such eager suckers for propaganda.
That's what I was trying to tell SIGGY! She's so gullible. I hadn't even heard there was suppose to be a big surprise until she posted about being pwned by Chuck Todd...
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Quote:Trump already emailed his returns to Hilliary - not his fault she deleted them.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Whatever Signym, 1kiki, and 6ix imagined Trump would do, he actually has done what the GOP would want, except with an extra dose of chaos because he is disorganized. Since I don't like what the GOP does, because I was biased by Nixon, I don't like what Trump does. But Trump has added some personal criminal tendencies to the standard GOP mix:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND when you write that ^^ your ignorance is showing!
You criticized Trump for ... among many other things ... being a "rentier" capitalist.
Trump has spent his entire career breaking various laws, getting caught, and then essentially plowing ahead unharmed. He has continued that as a candidate and a President:
Here’s House Republicans’ list of all the Trump scandals they’re covering up
• President Trump’s tax returns
Quote:preparing for a meeting with a foreign leader? The horrors!!
• Trump family businesses — and whether they comply with the Constitution’s emoluments clause, including the Chinese trademark grant to the Trump Organization
• Trump’s dealings with Russia, including the president’s preparation for his meeting with Vladimir Putin.
Quote:not a crime for Trump, possibly a crime of extortion for Clifford
• The payment to Stephanie Clifford — a.k.a. Stormy Daniels
Quote:Presidential perogative and duty is not a crime - already hashed out with the Impeachment of Johnson.
• James Comey’s firing
Quote:yawn. Ditto.
• Trump’s firing of U.S. attorneys.
Quote:as opposed to the military damaging lifting of bans by Clinton? Is the Armed Forces now the social guinea pig farm of Socialists, Communists, and other whackos?
• Trump’s proposed transgender ban for the military
Quote:They forgot to delete emails en masse like Hilliary?
• Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin’s business dealings
• White House staff’s personal email use
Quote:obviously nothing compared to Secretary Clinton, Secretary Kerry, Moochelle Obama, etc.
• Cabinet secretary travel, office expenses, and other misused perks
Quote:Nothing as treasonous as the same by Clinton & Clinton (including on National TV), Obama (onstage with mics), etc.
• Discussion of classified information at Mar-a-Lago
Quote:Since when have Clinton, Clinton, Obama, or minions ever complied with Law? Their practice and policy was to transgress Law at every opportunity.
• Jared Kushner’s ethics law compliance
Quote:yawn. Yet another Presidential perogative, responsibility, and Duty? Shockers!
• Dismissal of members of the EPA board of scientific counselors
Quote:You mean the one upheld by SCOTUS? That one? Really? You are really grasping here. Rumor has it, Trump is also abiding Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Gun Ownership, Freedom to not self-incriminate, even though these have also been upheld by SCOTUS.
• The travel ban
Quote:which was already enacted as Law by The Usual Libtard Suspects - Democraps.
• Family separation policy
Quote:Is this anything like New Orleans Mayor Nagal obstructing Federal Aid to ensure his constituents suffered?
• Hurricane response in Puerto Rico
Quote:Hilliary, Comey, Mueller, Obama have yet to be charged with these crimes, so no need to dilly dally around with Fake Claims of Trump doing what we know they did.
• Election security and hacking attempts
Quote:what? The standard delay, following every single change of administration? Patriotic Americans should be thankful of the changing of the swamp creatures.
• White House security clearances
Quote:With all of the gibberish that second posts, I had managed to gloss over or ignore much of this post.
But now I noticed a sub-nugget which I quoted here, showing a hilarious list of supposed issues which have offended some of the most easily o
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:After 15 months, Still No Evidence.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence of Collusion? It's only been a year of the Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition.
Quote:What JewelStaiteFan means is that Trump is innocent until JewelStaiteFan decides he is guilty. We'll all have to wait until the next election in 2020 to see if Trump is innocent enough to be reelected.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
It's not even troubling that you feel there is no evidence JSF. It's just absurd and I find myself not caring in the least that you see things that way.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:1kiki, if Federal prosecutors think like that, they would never go to trial on any case. The prosecutors place their reputations on the line when they decide to investigate one thing rather than another. They have to decide if a crime was committed months before a jury decides.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"What JewelStaiteFan means is that Trump is innocent until JewelStaiteFan decides he is guilty." SECOND, Trump is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, based on evidence that supports the allegations.
This should be a moment of reflection for white-collar prosecutors.
Quote:After a long line of unquoted sequence, maybe I don't understand this final sentence in your post.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Why not?
Originally posted by second:Quote:Before going to trial, does a prosecutor believe that no crimes were committed, but goes to trial anyway so that a jury can look over and double-check the evidence and maybe, just maybe, find a crime that the prosecutor missed or overlooked?
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"The prosecutors ... have to decide if a crime was committed months before a jury decides." Are you saying mere accusation by a prosecutor is proof of guilt? You DO realize that's a distinctly anti-American position to take - right?
Find me a single defense attorney who has gone to court at some point in their life knowing full well that their client was guilty of the crimes committed.
Did you really mean the opposite?
Hasn't every single Defense Attorney gone to Court with a client they knew was guilty?
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Yeah. That's what I meant. Should have read "hasn't" instead of "has".
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Well, the NYT has labored and squeezed out their magnum opus on "the evidence" so far.
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The Plot to Subvert an Election: Unraveling the Russia Story So Far
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/russia-inte
rference-election-trump-clinton.html
In the two-hundred or so paragraphs of bullshit, innuendo, speculation and (at times) outright lies, you will find the following
Quote:In other words: nothing so far
What Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel in charge of the investigation, may know or may yet discover is still uncertain.
They describe the possibility that Russia actaully affected the outcome of the election as
Quote:In other words, they can concoct a story to that effect.
plausible ...though it cannot be proved or disproved.
As far as all of Mueller's successes so far
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But none of the convictions to date involve conspiracy.
And in terms of evidence
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Mr. Trump’s frustration with the Russian investigation is not surprising. He is right that no public evidence has emerged showing that his campaign conspired with Russia in the election interference or accepted Russian money.
As Zerohedge commented
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In an astounding contradiction within a single NYT article, the "mountain of evidence" at the opening becomes Trump "is right that no public evidence has emerged" by the story's closing.
Indeed.
And I once again point out that the KEY activity that the "intelligence" agencies have been harping on over and over as evidence of Russia's interference in our election, the Wikileaks release of Podesta's and DNC emails ... rests on the statement by a DNC-paid computer-security company (the FBI never having examined the server) and without EVER having taken testimony from Julian Assange, who is one of the very few people who actually KNOWS where those files came from. So that part is still a mountain of garbage which the "security" agencies refuse to clear up.
Unless their concocted story can square with basic important facts, it's bullshit, no matter how much topping they put on it.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Grasp at those straws! Grasp! GRASP, DAMN YOUR EYES!!!!
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Quote:Huh. Now THIS post sounds like a man desperately grasping at straws!
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Grasp at those straws! Grasp! GRASP, DAMN YOUR EYES!!!!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Are you illiterate? Incapable of reading with comprehension?
Originally posted:
Grasp at those straws! Grasp! GRASP, DAMN YOUR EYES!!!!
Still No Evidence.
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tick tock
A (so far) complete timeline of the investigation into Trump and Russia
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/02/05/a-so-far-co
mplete-timeline-of-the-investigation-into-trump-and-russia/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6c32b588ae52
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Originally posted by THG:
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty last October to making false statements to the FBI.
2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018.
3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty last December to making false statements to the FBI.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.
23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case this year.
24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.
Finally, there are two other people Mueller initially investigated, but then handed over to others in the Justice Department to handle. Both eventually agreed to plea deals.
Michael Cohen: Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations, related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump.
Sam Patten: This Republican operative and lobbyist pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign agent with his work for Ukrainian political bigwigs, and agreed to cooperate with the government.
Manafort guilty and now along with Cohen cooperating fully with Mueller. Stay tuned...
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I'll just keep bumping this so we all notice when nothing happens that has anything to do with Russia+Trump+collusion.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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Quote:Three words.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I'll just keep bumping this so we all notice when nothing happens that has anything to do with Russia+Trump+collusion.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
Sounds like.....
Still No Evidence.
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Still No Evidence.
38 days to Election.
Come on, not much time left to dream up some evidence. This scam has been going on for more than 2 years. Get with it shlubbs.
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People in jail, testifying, granted immunity.
No, nothing to see here, folks. The Russian trolls say so.
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Mueller Probe: California Man Who Sold Stolen IDs to Russians to Be Sentenced
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-probe-california-man-who-sold-st
olen-ids-to-russians-to-be-sentenced
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Quote:Goodness, that must be somehow related to Trump! Russia! Collusion! to be in this thread! Did Trump Pay that man for some IDs, to get more voters at the polls?
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Mueller Probe: California Man Who Sold Stolen IDs to Russians to Be Sentenced
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-probe-california-man-who-sold-st
olen-ids-to-russians-to-be-sentenced
Or, more likely....Still No Evidence.
27 Days remaining until Election Day and SuperMajority Rules.
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Golly, why have all the Trolls gone mum?
Still No Evidence.
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Still No Evidence.
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Still No Evidence.
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Quote:How many of Donald Trump's advisers have been convicted? Five. And without any evidence.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/22/how-many-of-trumps-close-advis
ers-have-been-convicted-and-who-are-they
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:How many of Donald Trump's advisers have been convicted? Five. And without any evidence.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/22/how-many-of-trumps-close-advis
ers-have-been-convicted-and-who-are-they
As Obama's said. Enough of Trumps appointees has been indicted to field a football team. Soon enough with the dems controlling the house there will be enough to field two teams. Hell, they could scrimmage.
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Still No Evidence.
And Collusion is not even Illegal!
And a Sitting President cannot be indicted.
How productive the past 18 months have been.
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Obama probably knew more about football than he did government.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Deja Vu?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Ahead of midterms, Democrats lead in cash, candidates and voters. As the runners near the 2018 vote, metrics show clear trends — an enthusiastic electorate, a diverse pool of candidates and an advantage for Democrats.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/ahead-midterms-democrats-l
ead-cash-candidates-voters-n905781
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Wasn't this the Libtard Spin in February? Before reality intruded?
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Still No Evidence.
Maybe that's because there is no Collusion on the Trump side, only on the Hilliary/Obama side.
Even though there is no Law against Collusion.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-02/smear-slander-rinse-and-repe
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The rise of Donald Trump has made the existing mass media realize that one-sided negative reporting on the man sells better than anything objective can. The MSM have sort of won the battle versus the interwebs, albeit only in that regard, and only for this moment, but that is enough for them for now; just like their readers, they don’t have the scope or the energy to look any further or deeper.
This is what drives outlets like CNN, the New York Times and the Guardian today, because it provides them with readers and viewers. Which they would not have if they didn’t conduct a 24/7 war on a set list of topics they know their audience can’t get enough of.
For these outlets, there are are three targets: Assange, Putin and Trump.
The problem would be evidence. Or it would seem to be, at least. But the news has changed. We are well into the second year of ‘reporting’ on how Trump and Putin have conspired against Hillary, and there is still no proof other than intelligence services swearing on their mothers’ graves that really, Assange, Putin and Trump have targeted our democracies in order to take over control of them by illegal means.
They are the enemy, and you, who are of course on the other side, are their victims.
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Quote:You seem to have confused "news" with the Entertainment Departments of broadcast Networks. Only one Network has a News Division, and that Division is named Fox News Channel. The rest are only Entertainment Shows.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-02/smear-slander-rinse-and-repe
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The rise of Donald Trump has made the existing mass media realize that one-sided negative reporting on the man sells better than anything objective can. The MSM have sort of won the battle versus the interwebs, albeit only in that regard, and only for this moment, but that is enough for them for now; just like their readers, they don’t have the scope or the energy to look any further or deeper.
This is what drives outlets like CNN, the New York Times and the Guardian today, because it provides them with readers and viewers. Which they would not have if they didn’t conduct a 24/7 war on a set list of topics they know their audience can’t get enough of.
For these outlets, there are are three targets: Assange, Putin and Trump.
The problem would be evidence. Or it would seem to be, at least. But the news has changed. We are well into the second year of ‘reporting’ on how Trump and Putin have conspired against Hillary, and there is still no proof other than intelligence services swearing on their mothers’ graves that really, Assange, Putin and Trump have targeted our democracies in order to take over control of them by illegal means.
They are the enemy, and you, who are of course on the other side, are their victims.
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It was reposted in ZH from another site. I posted it here - with the link - because it contains original links to original information, and a handy summary.
Basically, I'm too darn lazy to pull up and repost every original link, and write a summary myself.
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Quote:Trump, and his voters, dismiss all negative information about his actions and their consequences as either fake news invented by hostile media or the products of a sinister “deep state.” That kind of conspiracy theorizing has long been standard practice among climate deniers, who began calling the evidence for global warming — evidence that has convinced 97 percent of climate scientists — a “gigantic hoax” 15 years ago.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
It was reposted in ZH from another site. I posted it here - with the link - because it contains original links to original information, and a handy summary.
Basically, I'm too darn lazy to pull up and repost every original link, and write a summary myself.
What was the evidence for this vast conspiracy? A lot of it rested on, you guessed it, hacked emails. The credulousness of all too many journalists about the supposed misconduct revealed by “Climategate,” a pseudo-scandal that relied on selective, out-of-context quotes from emails at a British university, prefigured the disastrous media handling of hacked Democratic emails in 2016. (All we learned from those emails was that scientists are people — occasionally snappish, and given to talking in professional shorthand that hostile outsiders can willfully misinterpret.)
Oh, and what is supposed to be motivating the thousands of scientists perpetrating this hoax? We’ve become accustomed to the spectacle of Donald Trump, the most corrupt president in history leading the most corrupt administration of modern times, routinely calling his opponents and critics “crooked.” Much the same thing happens in climate debate.
The truth is that most prominent climate deniers are basically paid to take that position, receiving large amounts of money from fossil-fuel companies. But after the release of the recent National Climate Assessment detailing the damage we can expect from global warming, a parade of Republicans went on TV to declare that scientists were only saying these things “for the money.” Projection much?
Trump voters claim climate change is media lies and exaggerations. Trump voters claim that Trump is being smeared by media lies and exaggerations. Long before Trump came on the scene, the GOP committed itself to denying the facts on climate change and criminalizing the scientists reporting those facts, even as the damage from a warming planet becomes more and more obvious.
Climate denial is part of a broader moral rot. Donald Trump isn’t an aberration, he’s the culmination of where his party has been going for years. You could say that Trumpism is just the application of the depravity of climate denial to every aspect of politics.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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THANKS for the bump!
Here's the original link.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-02/smear-slander-rinse-and-repe
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Quote:Quoting from www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-02/smear-slander-rinse-and-repeat
Originally posted by 1kiki:
THANKS for the bump!
Here's the original link.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-02/smear-slander-rinse-and-repe
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Quote:1kiki said much the same about Obama. Calling Presidents war criminals must be a thing for 1kiki and zerohedge.
It shouldn’t be necessary for anyone to point out that George HW Bush was basically a war criminal in thinly veiled disguise, who ordered the bombing of a caravan of civilians in Iraq 27 years ago, as the US had invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein had taken Kuwait egged on by that same US. If you can call that dignified, you have issues.
I forgot to check if zerohedge also does climate change denial. It does, and in the same way that it denies Trump is a crook.
Quote:www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-16/un-climate-change-report-choice-betw
Fear, of course, is perhaps the greatest motivator in the world. And in this case, fear is entirely rational if one accepts the premise that the world will face a climate apocalypse if net CO2 emissions are not brought to zero. Because that’s almost certainly not going to happen. Fortunately, scientists generally and environmentalists specifically have a rather poor track record when it comes to dire predictions. Yet government’s ability to use perceived threats to expand power is more impressive (and more dangerous).
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The GOP uses the same morally bankrupt methods to deny that Trump is a crook and deny climate change: "Climate Denial Was the Crucible for Trumpism"
It’s where the conspiracy theorizing and menacing of critics began.
www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/opinion/climate-denial-trump-gop.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Still No Evidence.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
Maybe that's because there is no Collusion on the Trump side, only on the Hilliary/Obama side.
Even though there is no Law against Collusion.
And it is Tuesday.
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I understand that tonight Hannity will have on his show new information on the FISA Court abuse, and who committed the frauds.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
Come on, not much time left to dream up some evidence. This scam has been going on for more than 2 years. Get with it shlubbs.
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Quote:All still true.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
And Collusion is not even Illegal!
And a Sitting President cannot be indicted.
How productive the past 18 months have been.
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Still No Evidence.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
True - with the only exception being the campaign finance crimes, collusion with Russia and obstruction of justice parts - other than that he'll probably only die in prison. Unless... do we still hang traitors?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
True - with the only exception being the campaign finance crimes, collusion with Russia and obstruction of justice parts - other than that he'll probably only die in prison. Unless... do we still hang traitors?
What a complete dipshit jsf is G. Just a complete dipshit.
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Still no evidence.
Mueller has not put .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION. together in the same package. And no matter how many 'process' crimes Mueller finds or creates, no matter how many pages of speculation SECOND posts, no matter how much bank fraud is uncovered, no matter how many times dipshits like THUGGER and GEEBERS repeat the same claims - there is still no evidence.
Unless you like living in kookoo-land. But I prefer to live in reality.
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Another Monday.
Still No Evidence.
The Federal Elections Commission Chairman already clearly explained that there was no violation of Campaign Finance Law, despite Mueller's Lies. The Mueller Lie Train/Chain should be a meme, for Trolls to easily comprehend.
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tick tock
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Reporter breaks down stunning number of contacts between Trump campaign and Russians
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tick tock dummies
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Fox legal analyst says he can’t imagine Trump not being indicted
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Quote:Another Monday has passed.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Still no evidence.
Mueller has not put .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION. together in the same package. And no matter how many 'process' crimes Mueller finds or creates, no matter how many pages of speculation SECOND posts, no matter how much bank fraud is uncovered, no matter how many times dipshits like THUGGER and GEEBERS repeat the same claims - there is still no evidence.
Unless you like living in kookoo-land. But I prefer to live in reality.
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Where, oh where, could any Evidence be?
It's like waiting for the Easter Bunny. Do Trolls believe in Easter Bunny?
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So, no smocking gun then...
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glad you agree
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All that foreplay, but then the Troll has ED?
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Michael Cohen, former Trump attorney, gets 3 years in prison for tax fraud, campaign finance violations, lying
www.foxnews.com/politics/cohen-slams-trumps-dirty-deeds-ahead-of-sente
ncing
Cohen told the judge he felt it was his duty to cover up the president's “dirty deeds.”
Cohen said “blind loyalty” to Trump led him “to take a path of darkness instead of light.”
Cohen was ordered to pay $1.4 million in restitution and a $50,000 fine, and forfeit $500,000.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Oh, dear. Tsk tsk...
Nope, no collusion here...
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Trump's attorney was sentenced to 3 years in prison and fined/forfeited/restituted almost $2 million. Trump said that if he goes down like Michael Cohen, he is dragging the whole country down with him.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/12/trump-impeachment-cohen-me
mos-reuters-interview.html
Trump, who has maintained that the Mueller probe is a “witch hunt” and that Cohen is lying to investigators to deflect blame from himself, said on Tuesday that Cohen should have known about campaign finance laws. “Michael Cohen is a lawyer. I assume he would know what he’s doing,” Trump said. He then added that, setting aside his own innocence in Cohen’s schemes, Cohen’s actions for his boss were not criminal. “Number one, it wasn’t a campaign contribution. If it were, it’s only civil, and even if it’s only civil, there was no violation based on what we did. OK?”
More generally, he dismissed the special counsel investigation and called the Russia-related parts of the probe “peanut stuff.” He also tried to turn the conversation to Hillary Clinton’s vague and unspecified financial crimes and warned he would not work with Democrats if they continue to support the special counsel investigation and are “going to do presidential harassment.”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The National Enquirer just plead guilty to the cover up as well today.
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Robert Mueller Already Knows The Dirty Deeds That Michael Cohen Covered Up For Trump
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/12/robert-mueller-already-knows-t
he-dirty-deeds-that-michael-cohen-covered-up-for-trump.html?fbclid=IwAR3XWTqouULCeUxiogbDzauhkL9PTtk0PcFXqLLFk780quTvI5oCvJFgGhw
Looks like that "nothing burger" has turned into a double patty with Mueller sauce and a large order of traitor tots!
Let the jailing continue!
This treason will be dealt with.
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'National Enquirer' Owner Admits Paying Off Ex-Playboy Model for Donald Trump
Federal prosecutors agree not to prosecute American Media Inc. for campaign contributions upon the acceptance of responsibility, cooperation with an investigation, and compliance improvements.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/national-enquirer-owner-admi
ts-paying-playboy-model-donald-trump-1168679
Not just paying off, but also silencing those women, just before the election, to keep voters in the dark about Trump's relationship with those women. This is considered Campaign Finance Fraud, and it is a felony. Also, it means that Pecker might have flipped over on Trump and is going to start spilling more dirt all over the place about Trump's shady shit. This along with Maria Butina is going to be very huge in the coming days. Watch this space.
No response from the trolls. What time is it in St. Petersburg?
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lol
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Still No Evidence.
But some Cadre of Trolls have mistaken this Real World thread for yet another of their delusion circle-jerk threads. But since no reasonable folk traffic their useless threads, they needed to post some spew here where reasonable folk traffic.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
'National Enquirer' Owner Admits Paying Off Ex-Playboy Model for Donald Trump
Federal prosecutors agree not to prosecute American Media Inc. for campaign contributions upon the acceptance of responsibility, cooperation with an investigation, and compliance improvements.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/national-enquirer-owner-admi
ts-paying-playboy-model-donald-trump-1168679
Not just paying off, but also silencing those women, just before the election, to keep voters in the dark about Trump's relationship with those women. This is considered Campaign Finance Fraud, and it is a felony. Also, it means that Pecker might have flipped over on Trump and is going to start spilling more dirt all over the place about Trump's shady shit. This along with Maria Butina is going to be very huge in the coming days. Watch this space.
No response from the trolls. What time is it in St. Petersburg?
The trolls here reaverfan still don't comprehend what is happening to Trump. I'll give them a hint. Cohen just went to jail for 3 years for doing what Trump did as well. Actually, Trump is in more trouble than Cohen because he paid Cohen to do it.
No, they don't have the Wherewithal to see, well, anything.
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Is Trump a Nixon or a Clinton? Cohen’s Crimes Offer a Guide.
www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-12/michael-cohen-sentenced-
to-prison-how-will-history-view-the-day
The two modern Washington scandals give us a way to judge the president.
One point for the Watergate side is that the unlawfully structured payments were squarely connected to Trump’s election campaign, just as the Watergate break-in was part of the campaign to re-elect President Richard Nixon in 1972.
The key to the Cohen-Watergate comparison is that the president ordered a subordinate to commit a federal crime as part of his bid for election. Cohen testified to that in court. The federal prosecutors indicated that they believe him.
Indeed, if Trump is not re-elected, it seems altogether possible that the federal prosecutors in New York will bring felony charges against him. They’ve already convicted Cohen, and it would be a strange act of favoritism if they didn’t charge the person whom they believe directed the crime, and for whose benefit it was committed.
In an impeachment, it will be difficult for Trump to defend himself now that Cohen is going to prison. And Cohen’s role in committing and covering up a campaign-finance felony at Trump’s direction will come to look like part of Watergate after all.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Despite President Donald Trump's public declaration that he isn't concerned about impeachment, he has told people close to him in recent days that he is alarmed by the prospect, according to multiple sources.
“The entire question about whether the president committed an impeachable offense now hinges on the testimony of two men: David Pecker and Allen Weisselberg, both cooperating witnesses in the SDNY investigation," a close Trump ally told NBC News.
Weisselberg is the chief financial officer for Trump organization who was allegedly in the center of the hush money operation. He was reportedly granted immunity for his testimony. Pecker is the chief executive at American Media Inc, the publisher of the National Enquirer.
The developments leave Trump as the lone party who argues the payments were not intended to influence the election.
"I am concerned that the president might be involved in a crime," Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana told reporters Tuesday.
The president has been on a days-long tirade, sources tell NBC News, lashing out at his own staff and lawmakers on Capitol Hill, frustrated by the threat of a Democratic House with subpoena power, an array of looming congressional investigations, multiple intensifying federal probes, a botched effort to find a new chief of staff and a potential partial government shutdown over a lack of funding for his top campaign promise — a border wall.
Trump has ranted about why no one around him is doing anything to stop any of it and vented about the lack of support he believes he has in Congress and within his own White House, the sources tell NBC News.
www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-confides-friends-he-s-conce
rned-about-impeachment-n947296
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Still No Evidence.
Are we waiting for another Monday? Another Year?
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
Are we waiting for another Monday? Another Year?
Dude, open up your blinds. Let the sunlight into your room, cause you've been void of reality long enough.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
Are we waiting for another Monday? Another Year?
Still No Wall.
What’s Trump waiting for?
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Yeah this whole RUSSIA!!! thing? Seems to have imploded. Now it looks like Mueller is going after everything BUT the so-called Russia-Trump "collusion".... flinging poop into the air to distract people from his failure.
If the "final report" comes out and there's no evidence of "collusion" (or conspiracy) with Russia ... how many years will it take for people to admit they were wrong? And will they learn from their mistake?
Seems people need to sit back and wait for the results and not jump to conclusions.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.
Are we waiting for another Monday? Another Year?
Still No Wall.
What’s Trump waiting for?
Don't know G. I can't think of a good reason why. Must be he wants to continue blaming the democrats for his failure and use it to rally the Trumpets.
Hey how bout that sig huh. Still clinging to the lie no Trump campaign contacts with the Russians. How delusional is that?
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Oh look! ZeroHedge ... the source you love to hate! ... may have some late-breaking gossip!
Quote:
"Absolute Mayhem" In DC Court As Mueller May Have Made A Move
... Reporters began to gather more than an hour before arguments were scheduled to begin at 9:30 a.m., however no members of Mueller's team, anyone connected to the Russia investigation, or anyone from the Trump administration were spotted. After arguments began, reporters began to huddle outside the courtroom in the hopes of discovering more about the case.
The first case was argued. Then the second. Still nothing. At the end of arguments in the second case, court employees instructed everyone in the courtroom to leave. Court staff and security officials then cleared the entire floor, an unusual occurrence in the courthouse. Reporters scattered, staking out other hallways, stairwells, and exits. At one point at least 20 journalists roamed the courthouse building and its grounds.
After roughly an hour and a half, reporters were allowed back onto the floor, although the courtroom was locked and it wasn't clear if arguments had ended. A little after noon, the courtroom deputy confirmed that the judges were, in fact, done hearing arguments for the day.
"I'm ready to go to sleep forever," one reporter was heard saying as she boarded an elevator to leave. -BuzzFeed
In short - something apparently big happened today in a DC court, which may or may not involve the special counsel's investigation, and nobody knows anything about the case outside of public records showing that the sealed grand jury case was filed in August, made two trips to the DC circuit, lost one appeal - and a second appeal was heard by a three-judge panel on Friday.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-14/absolute-mayhem-manhattan-co
urt-mueller-may-have-made-move
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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I think this needs its own thread. SIG pulls most of her information that she posts here from this blog and stupidly defends it as a reputable source. As she continues to do so I will regenerate this thread to remind all it is a corrupted blog designed to create havoc rather than informing.
Below are the names of those behind zero hedge. Don't miss what I've highlighted in red below. This folks is why comrade troll SIG loves to quote zero hedge.
In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”
All of this matches SIG's playbook here and Putin's globally; exactly.
The men behind zero hedge
Colin Lokey, a 32-year-old former Seeking Alpha director
Daniel Ivandjiiski, a 37-year-old Bulgarian-born former hedge fund employee who was barred for insider trading in 2008
Tim Backshall, a 45-year-old credit derivatives strategist
Despite its populist tone, Lokey told Bloomberg he recently left Zero Hedge because he didn’t see eye-to-eye with the others when it came to editorial vision.
“Zero Hedge ceased to serve that public service years ago,” Lokey said. “They care what generates page views. Clicks. Money.”
In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”
Lokey claims Zero Hedge’s focus on traffic and revenue is hypocritical, but Ivandjiiski sees things differently.
Finally, Zero Hedge addressed the accusations of systematic bias in its content.
“We are certainly ok with being the object of other’s conspiracy theories, in this case completely false ones since we have never been in contact with anyone in Russia, or the US, or any government for that matter,” Zero Hedge says.
The site claims it has never accepted a dime of funding outside of advertising revenue and that Lokey was never pressured about how to frame his articles or editorialized.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zero-hedge-unmasked-theres-more-1427301
65.html
According to the Bloomberg article, three men have been churning out all of the content at Zero Hedge, using the joint pseudonym “Tyler Durden” from the Brad Pitt film “Fight Club.” The 1999 cult film, according to Rolling Stone, is “about being young, male and powerless against the pacifying drug of consumerism. It’s about solitude, despair and bottled-up rage.” That ethos is frequently on display at Zero Hedge.
The three “Tyler Durdens” outed by Bloomberg reporters are Colin Lokey, who has now left Zero Hedge in a fit of pique and is responsible for handing over the internal chat sessions from Zero Hedge on traffic-building strategies and other matters. Bloomberg says “the other two men are Daniel Ivandjiiski, 37, the Bulgarian-born former analyst long reputed to be behind the site, and Tim Backshall, 45, a well-known credit derivatives strategist.”
The article notes that “Ivandjiiski has a multimillion-dollar mansion in Mahwah, N.J., and Backshall lives in a plush San Francisco suburb,” suggesting these are “not exactly reflections” of the anti-capitalism reflected in the moniker “Tyler Durden.”
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look! ZeroHedge ... the source you love to hate! ... may have some late-breaking gossip!Quote:
"Absolute Mayhem" In DC Court As Mueller May Have Made A Move
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Quote:The words in the linky say Manhattan Court, but your quoted text says DC Court and DC circuit.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look! ZeroHedge ... the source you love to hate! ... may have some late-breaking gossip!Quote:
"Absolute Mayhem" In DC Court As Mueller May Have Made A Move
... Reporters began to gather more than an hour before arguments were scheduled to begin at 9:30 a.m., however no members of Mueller's team, anyone connected to the Russia investigation, or anyone from the Trump administration were spotted. After arguments began, reporters began to huddle outside the courtroom in the hopes of discovering more about the case.
The first case was argued. Then the second. Still nothing. At the end of arguments in the second case, court employees instructed everyone in the courtroom to leave. Court staff and security officials then cleared the entire floor, an unusual occurrence in the courthouse. Reporters scattered, staking out other hallways, stairwells, and exits. At one point at least 20 journalists roamed the courthouse building and its grounds.
After roughly an hour and a half, reporters were allowed back onto the floor, although the courtroom was locked and it wasn't clear if arguments had ended. A little after noon, the courtroom deputy confirmed that the judges were, in fact, done hearing arguments for the day.
"I'm ready to go to sleep forever," one reporter was heard saying as she boarded an elevator to leave. -BuzzFeed
In short - something apparently big happened today in a DC court, which may or may not involve the special counsel's investigation, and nobody knows anything about the case outside of public records showing that the sealed grand jury case was filed in August, made two trips to the DC circuit, lost one appeal - and a second appeal was heard by a three-judge panel on Friday.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-14/absolute-mayhem-manhattan-co
urt-mueller-may-have-made-move
???
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Trolls seem to get frothed up about No Evidence.
Looking like there will never be any Evidence.
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Not seeing anything offhand to carry over from the other thread. If I do, I will add it here >>>>
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Although, I DO have to say that those who are (were?) convinced of "Russian hacking" and "Russian collusion" seem to be posting a contradictory message: On the one hand, they keep pointing to "evidence", and on the other hand they excuse it's lack by saying Well, what do you think Meuller is going to do? Release evidence as soon as he finds it?". You guys - pick one or the other, you can't credibly have both.
OK, after all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty and as we know there are more to come, I guess sig is ready to admit there was Russian hacking and collusion.
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Quote:fify
Originally posted by THG:
all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty about nothing at all to do with .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION. I guess you're ready to admit there was no .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION.
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I guess the news that 14 of Trumps campaign staff had contacts with the Russians during and after the campaign then lied about it, hasn't reached comrade kiki yet.
I'm sure when it does she'll admit to collusion between the two. I mean, who could be so stupid not the realize that?
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I guess the news that 14 of Trumps campaign staff had "contacts" with some random "Russians" that weren't actually about collusion hasn't sunk into my thick skull yet.
fify
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Quote:By repeatedly screaming “NO COLLUSION” Trump has framed the investigation as being about something that legal experts say isn’t even a crime — rather than, say, obstruction of justice.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Trolls seem to get frothed up about No Evidence.
Looking like there will never be any Evidence.
“Most criminals are convicted often on significant circumstantial evidence, but in the case of politicians, people who like them insist, ‘Show me the money, show me the smoking gun,'” says Paul Rosenzweig, who worked on Ken Starr’s investigation of Bill Clinton.
Prosecutors complain that jurors demand unrealistic levels of forensic evidence of criminality. Trump has capitalized on this by claiming in at least 20 tweets that Mueller doesn’t have “evidence” of crimes committed by him. But the circumstantial evidence of wrongdoing by the president is becoming overwhelming, even though Trump’s supporters are holding out for that smoking gun.
Trump's messaging strategy has set monumentally high standards for Mueller’s investigation; the growing convictions against all his henchmen are offset by the repeated insistence that Mueller has nothing directly on Trump himself.
That wouldn’t be much of a defense in court, but the chances are that Trump won’t have to defend himself in front of a judge. Trump’s jury is Congress — lawmakers who base their views in large part on those of Republicans who voted for Trump. So, while Trump’s angry, repetitive tweeting into the abyss seems crass, the way Trump has framed the probe — so that even his opponents have exceptionally high expectations of Mueller — could be what saves him.
More at https://qz.com/1496496/
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Quote:Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted:
all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty about nothing at all to do with .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION. I guess you're ready to admit there was no .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION.
tic tac
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.
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Quote:You realize that you are as nuts as Trump, right? These are the tweets of guy who is flat out crazy and can't stop:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Wow, 19,000 Texts between Lisa Page and her lover, Peter S of the FBI, in charge of the Russia Hoax, were just reported as being wiped clean and gone. Such a big story that will never be covered by the Fake News. Witch Hunt!
8:45 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073982314588323845
Someone accuses Trump of doing something horrible, and he goes back at them with all guns blazing.... And admits nothing. When Trump loses, he will declare victory. Trump does the opposite of what a sane person does.
Another tweet: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Never in the history of our Country has the “press” been more dishonest than it is today. Stories that should be good, are bad. Stories that should be bad, are horrible. Many stories, like with the REAL story on Russia, Clinton & the DNC, seldom get reported. Too bad!
7:37 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073965319184678913
Never in the history of America has its president told so many lies....
Before big events, Trump crushes up Adderall and snorts it.
Adderall, a mix of amphetamine/dextroamphetamine, is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder – ADHD. It’s exactly what you want your President taking to power a tweet storm -- if you want the maximum craziness from your President.
See the video from a guy who worked with Trump on TV. He reveals that Trump snorts amphetamine:
https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1073400561699979264
The 29 most surreal lines from Donald Trump's Fox News interview
www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/politics/donald-trump-harris-faulkner-michael-c
ohen/index.html
Trump is crazy. It could be the snorting of amphetamine, the dementia of an elderly brain, the stress of the job, or all three, but he is nuts.
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Quote:Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted:
all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty about nothing at all to do with .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION. I guess you're ready to admit there was no .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION.
tic tac
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.
kiki and others SECOND keep saying no collusion because as you point out, as I, G and others have said before, collusion itself is not a chargeable offense. And, as you, I, G and others have also pointed out, the actual charges may include conspiracy, obstruction, money laundering, campaign finance violations, bank fraud and the list goes on. Hell, we could even see the RICO act enacted.
We've seen as many as 36 or so indicted with guilty pleas and jail time in Mueller's attempt to clean house. Comrade kiki and her few cronies post as though none of that reflects back onto Trump. He is now being investigated up the yazoo and the democrats haven't even started yet. This doesn't even include his corrupt cabinet members.
Trump has trashed our intelligence agencies, our justice department, the FBI and so on. Can you blame them for wanting to expose Trump as being the crook.
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Oh my goodness. Can they do that? This is terrible____tick tac____T
Democrats are ready to cross Trump’s red line, announcing they will go after Trump’s personal finances, Nancy Pelosi saying they will “take the first steps” toward obtaining Trump’s tax returns.
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Yeah, going after Trump's tax-returns. That'll work to expose .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION.
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Quote:They probably already know that the TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION story isn't going to get them across the finish line.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yeah, going after Trump's tax-returns. That'll work to expose .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION.
And the programmed people here, with their convenient memories, are going to "forget" that it was ever an issue with them and pivot to the next red herring that someone drags across their path.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yeah, going after Trump's tax-returns. That'll work to expose .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION.
Follow the money comrade stupid.
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Yeah, going after Trump's tax-returns. That'll work to expose .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION.
In fact, the further sideways this goes, the more minor the players, the less tenuous the connections, the more it shows there's no 'there' there.
Right now, Pelosi is licking the semen stain off of a blue dress.
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Quote:Never in the history of America has MSM told so many lies about a President.
Originally posted by second:Quote:You realize that you are as nuts as Trump, right? These are the tweets of guy who is flat out crazy and can't stop:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Wow, 19,000 Texts between Lisa Page and her lover, Peter S of the FBI, in charge of the Russia Hoax, were just reported as being wiped clean and gone. Such a big story that will never be covered by the Fake News. Witch Hunt!
8:45 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073982314588323845
Someone accuses Trump of doing something horrible, and he goes back at them with all guns blazing.... And admits nothing. When Trump loses, he will declare victory. Trump does the opposite of what a sane person does.
Another tweet: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Never in the history of our Country has the “press” been more dishonest than it is today. Stories that should be good, are bad. Stories that should be bad, are horrible. Many stories, like with the REAL story on Russia, Clinton & the DNC, seldom get reported. Too bad!
7:37 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073965319184678913
Never in the history of America has its president told so many lies....
Before big events, Trump crushes up Adderall and snorts it.
Adderall, a mix of amphetamine/dextroamphetamine, is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder – ADHD. It’s exactly what you want your President taking to power a tweet storm -- if you want the maximum craziness from your President.
See the video from a guy who worked with Trump on TV. He reveals that Trump snorts amphetamine:
https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1073400561699979264
The 29 most surreal lines from Donald Trump's Fox News interview
www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/politics/donald-trump-harris-faulkner-michael-c
ohen/index.html
Trump is crazy. It could be the snorting of amphetamine, the dementia of an elderly brain, the stress of the job, or all three, but he is nuts.
Also, can you cite a source not inside your head which supports your claim of Trump snorting Adderal?
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Quote:You have heard of Forbes magazine? It learned what hold Russian President Vladimir Putin has over Trump.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Never in the history of America has MSM told so many lies about a President.
It happened during the presidential election itself. Trump himself repeatedly stated since entering the presidential race in June 2015 that he had no business in Russia and no interactions with representatives of Russia. It now turns out that Putin knew what the American people didn’t, namely that Donald Trump was throughout the 2016 presidential primary campaign secretly negotiating to build a huge and lucrative hotel in Moscow, which required the personal support of Vladimir Putin.
The fact that Putin knew about Trump’s secret dealings, while the American people didn’t, meant that if Trump didn’t do what Russia wanted, Russia could expose Trump’s lies and so bring him down.
The filing revealed that Mueller’s Office is now investigating the hypothesis that Donald Trump, his campaign, his organization and his associates participated in a massive election fraud, through five interlocking conspiracies — arguably the worst set of crimes against the United States in its history. It’s been obvious that Donald Trump has been acting in a weird way towards America’s adversary, Russia. But until recently, the miscellaneous bits and pieces of the Trump-Russia jigsaw puzzle didn’t fit together in any coherent way.
More at www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2018/12/16/mueller-exposes-putins-ho
ld-over-trump/#f32ba0a48f68
Quote:Adderall, a mix of amphetamine/dextroamphetamine, is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder – ADHD. Amphetamine is known as "Speed", exactly what you want an ADHD President to be snorting when he makes decisions.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Also, can you cite a source not inside your head which supports your claim of Trump snorting Adderal?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Never in the history of America has MSM told so many lies about a President.
Which ones? Cites! I might be able to recall one or 2 in the last 3 years that were untrue and were immediately refuted by other media outlets and corrected. Are there lies that currently stand that you can linky to? And of course, prove they are lies? I will take your silence as a "No, I can't - I made that sh*t up. It's just what I heard somewhere" answer.
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