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I find the tactics that the Dems are using to delay and obstruct the process quite inventive, considering that they don't have the vote. Aside from the constant shouting from the gallery, the Dems have managed to ...
Demand endless reams of paperwork from Kavanaugh's history in the Bush WH,
Delay allegations of sexual misconduct until VERY late in the process,
Then demand a public hearing,
And then change their stance and demand a "full FBI investigation" as soon as a public hearing was acceded to.
Now, I have no idea whether the allegations are true or false. (But if we were to follow THUGR's stance of letting Clinton's bygones be bygones, I suppose we could let this 30-year old allegation also be lost in the mists of history. Right?)
But I'd be willing to bet SOME dollars that if you were to look into this professor's activities, you'd find her working with Democratic Senators in the past six months or so, working out the timing and tactics for maximum effect.
BRAVO!
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Sig your post concerning this topic is incredibly juvenile, hateful and childness in nature. Bravo troll...
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Sig your post concerning this topic is incredibly juvenile, hateful and childness[sic] in nature. Bravo troll...- THUGR
So, what about posting something relevant and intelligent about Kavanaugh? What do you think about his qualifications? Do you have any opinions about his political leanings? What about his apparent deference to the unreachability of the President? Does he believe in the Unitary Executive?
Or is it BEYOND YOU to bring anything to the table besides name-calling?
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You truly are stupid AF, you anti-American Russian troll.
The woman has a stellar reputation. Kavanaugh is s known liar. He's a piece of shit who deserves to die crying in prison, along with Trump and his boss, Putin.
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Also, you don't know shit about history or politics.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Sig your post concerning this topic is incredibly juvenile, hateful and childness[sic] in nature. Bravo troll...- THUGR
So, what about posting something relevant and intelligent about Kavanaugh? What do you think about his qualifications? Do you have any opinions about his political leanings? What about his apparent deference to the unreachability of the President? Does he believe in the Unitary Executive?
Or is it BEYOND YOU to bring anything to the table besides name-calling?
Pretty simple for me: If these Republicans and this president picked him then he's got stink all over him. I do believe he's been lying, and will continue to lie. I believe this is Trump yet again protecting Trump's big fat *ss. I also believe he's just another member of the Republican white male Boys Club. I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.
I want to tie 2 things into one:
1. Pretty obvious the Supreme Court has become too political, especially since Mitch McConnell.
2. Did anyone else notice that Grassley and Hatch and Biden were part of the Clarence Thomas hearings??? 27 freaking years ago! That's ridiculous!
Together those both point to one thing for me: TERM LIMITS. Can't happen soon enough. Congress is suppose to be about service, not a lifetime career, and SC needs to be more flexible with the times for it to be lifetime.
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Quote:Saving this for a rainy day too.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
You truly are stupid AF, you anti-American Russian troll.
Quote:He is? If that were so, why would the Dems have to stoop to delay tactics? Isn't there anything substantial in Kavanaugh's record to point to? Even Corey Booker's (a known POS) "I am Spartacus" moment flopped. So ... LINKS PLEASE
The woman has a stellar reputation. Kavanaugh is s known liar.
Quote:Well, THAT went off the deep end pretty fast!
He's a piece of shit who deserves to die crying in prison, along with Trump and his boss, Putin.
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Quote:I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!
I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
I think Professor Ford deserves a hearing, under oath. If the Dems hadn't been so anxious to play politics with her allegation, then the matter could have been heard and debated over a longer period of time.
Quote:When was this sent and received? Why was it not brought up as soon as possible?
secret letter to Senate Democrats accusing U.S. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct.
Quote:Was this the same friend who watched? Or a different friend?
Ford said she escaped when one of Kavanaugh's friends at Georgetown Preparatory School jumped on top of them.
Quote:Ford couldn't remember the house, but if she could ID the other two boys maybe they can provide more details.
Ford said she told no one of the incident in any detail until 2012, when she was in couples therapy with her husband. The therapist’s notes, portions of which were provided by Ford and reviewed by The Washington Post, do not mention Kavanaugh’s name but say she reported that she was attacked by students “from an elitist boys’ school” who went on to become “highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.” The notes say four boys were involved, a discrepancy Ford says was an error on the therapist’s part. Ford said there were four boys at the party but only two in the room.
Quote:Ford believes she's telling the truth. Did she know the boys well? Or at least, well enough to be able to properly ID who was doing what? Was she drunk at the time?
On the advice of Katz, who said she believed Ford would be attacked as a liar if she came forward, Ford took a polygraph test administered by a former FBI agent in early August. The results, which Katz provided to The Post, concluded that Ford was being truthful when she said a statement summarizing her allegations was accurate.
Right now it's a "he said- she said" story since "the friend" says he doesn't remember anything like that but supposedly drank a lot and was subject to blackouts. Did Kavanaugh have a history of drinking a lot at that time? Her story is vague about the location and time; it would help if there were some kind of corroborating testimony. I believe that she believes she's telling the truth, but she may be mistaken.
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Not sure what to think about term limits for the Supreme Court or for ANY position. I think the record is mixed on whether or not it reduces corruption and the role of money in politics; and we have no evidence at all on whether it would reduce the role of politics in the judiciary. The only reason why it sounds like a good idea to you now is because you don't like the current makeup of the SC. If the SC had a more liberal bent, I'm sure you'd want to see those judges in place until they had at least one foot in the grave, and maybe more!
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not sure what to think about term limits for the Supreme Court or for ANY position. I think the record is mixed on whether or not it reduces corruption and the role of money in politics; and we have no evidence at all on whether it would reduce the role of politics in the judiciary. The only reason why it sounds like a good idea to you now is because you don't like the current makeup of the SC. If the SC had a more liberal bent, I'm sure you'd want to see those judges in place until they had at least one foot in the grave, and maybe more!
You have learned absolutely nothing about me of course. How many times have I said I hate Hillary (and proven it)? How many times do I have to say I'm not a Dem or Rep? Or, have to say I vote for the person not the party? I even mentioned Biden above as a fossil the needs to get off the stage. Pelosi/Schumer - get out!
NO. Try and remember that I'm not the one with the phony agenda, k? I'm just like whoever is best is best. No allegiance that makes me have to lie or compromise my values. So, the only reason "why it sounds like a good idea to me now is because" it sounds like a good idea. These old f*cks that say naive stuff like, "I know him, he's a fine man" need to step down. When people think they're untouchable they act like it.
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You have learned absolutely nothing about me of course. How many times have I said I hate Hillary (and proven it)? How many times do I have to say I'm not a Dem or Rep? Or, have to say I vote for the person not the party? I even mentioned Biden above as a fossil the needs to get off the stage. Pelosi/Schumer - get out!
NO. Try and remember that I'm not the one with the phony agenda, k? I'm just like whoever is best is best. No allegiance that makes me have to lie or compromise my values. So, the only reason "why it sounds like a good idea to me now is because" it sounds like a good idea. These old f*cks that say naive stuff like, "I know him, he's a fine man" need to step down. When people think they're untouchable they act like it.
Ok, you're not a dem or repub.
So let's just discuss the idea of "term limits" (in general) on its merits.
There are different things at play for term-limiting elected officials versus appointed officials.
In a perverse way, I think term limits ENHANCE the role money in elections by forcing people to run as challengers rather than as incumbents, which means they will need (on the average) MORE money for their campaign rather than less. Also, term limits mean that politicians are usually inexperienced ... they don't know how to hold meetings, how to run committees, how to write legislation, and quite often wind up relying on lobbyists to help them. We had that problem in our State Legislature when term limits were first implemented; we had a whole bunch of "freshmen" legislators who needed to be told what to do every step of the way. It was political kindergarten.
For appointed officials, there are three factors at work:
1) The "cycle" of elections may leave a lasting political bias in the judiciary.
2) People DO get old and senile!
3) People who've been around a long time can form an "old boy's" (or "old gal's") network in which old ideas are never challenged.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
The woman has a stellar reputation. Kavanaugh is s known liar.
A thousand bucks says that Reaverfan didn't even know who Kavanaugh was until Rachel Maddow told him that he's a known liar.
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Quote:I own you. All day, every day, Russian troll.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Saving this for a rainy day too.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
You truly are stupid AF, you anti-American Russian troll.Quote:He is? If that were so, why would the Dems have to stoop to delay tactics? Isn't there anything substantial in Kavanaugh's record to point to? Even Corey Booker's (a known POS) "I am Spartacus" moment flopped. So ... LINKS PLEASE
The woman has a stellar reputation. Kavanaugh is s known liar.Quote:Well, THAT went off the deep end pretty fast!
He's a piece of shit who deserves to die crying in prison, along with Trump and his boss, Putin.
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Same thing as Trump. If he's so innocent, then why not call for the FBI to investigate this latest allegation and clear his name. Seems very simple and
straightforward to me.
The delay in revealing the accuser was due to the woman wanting to keep her
identity private. Feinstein tried to keep her promise in not revealing her
identity, but something happened to open that Pandora's Box. She knew, as did
the Democrats, that this latest fiasco with Kavanaugh was a set up from the beginning. Plus anyone that Trump picks is automatically a scumbag from the
rich Republican House of Pain.
She knew that the Russian Troll Dept. would be working overtime to smear her name, threaten both her and her family, hack her email, etc. And now those fucking cowards - Hatch, McConnell and Grassley - don't have the balls to follow regular order and call for an investigation into the allegations
against that dickhead Kavanaugh.
The FBI did investigate Clarence Thomas when Anita Hill brought charges of sexual and physical assault against him. It took solely 3 days. The Rotten Three, as I call them, have challenged Dr. Ford to appear before the
Committee, either in private or public session, but without any witnesses or
properly conducted investigation as in the Thomas case. The instant case is
a carbon copy of the Thomas/Hill case, whereby the man's conduct has been
called into question.
Just for you Siggy - the man is innocent until proven guilty. I, at least,
offer up that much. But not Hatch and Grassley. They both have commented
in the negative against Dr. Ford, the accuser). Fuck those two. Funny thing
is that these two hypocrites were all about the investigation when Hill
stated her charges against Thomas (another douchebag). This is so ridiculous.
All those in favor of drinking the Kool-aid, the line forms behind Siggy.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I find the tactics that the Dems are using to delay and obstruct the process quite inventive, considering that they don't have the vote. Aside from the constant shouting from the gallery, the Dems have managed to ...
Demand endless reams of paperwork from Kavanaugh's history in the Bush WH,
Delay allegations of sexual misconduct until VERY late in the process,
Then demand a public hearing,
And then change their stance and demand a "full FBI investigation" as soon as a public hearing was acceded to.
Now, I have no idea whether the allegations are true or false. (But if we were to follow THUGR's stance of letting Clinton's bygones be bygones, I suppose we could let this 30-year old allegation also be lost in the mists of history. Right?)
But I'd be willing to bet SOME dollars that if you were to look into this professor's activities, you'd find her working with Democratic Senators in the past six months or so, working out the timing and tactics for maximum effect.
BRAVO!
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!
I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)
Of course the truth differs from what you said:
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/16/us/the-thomas-confirmation-how-the-
senators-voted-on-thomas.html
Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans.
Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looking forward to shooting down your next lie.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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lol. Don't worry about it dude. I'll try not to laugh too hard when he gets sworn in. Promise.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
You owe me 1000 bucks.
Don't worry. I know your broke ass doesn't have 1000 bucks, and I don't need it.
lol. Don't worry about it dude. I'll try not to laugh too hard when he gets sworn in. Promise.
Is anyone here surprised Jack the perv doesn't give a hoot about the possible attempted rape of this woman. I'm not, nope, I'm not surprised at all. Are you surprised REAVERFAN?
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Quote:The DEMS were in control of the Senate, and (more importantly) in control of the Judiciary Committee at the time. There were (by your count) 57 Democrats in the Senate and 43 Republicans. So what happened???
Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans. Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
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Quote:You mean allegation against Kavanaugh?
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Same thing as Trump. If he's so innocent, then why not call for the FBI to investigate this latest allegation and clear his name. Seems very simple and straightforward to me.
Quote:Yanno this drive me nucking futz. I can't tell you the number of times that a woman complained to me about a male co-worker and said I don't want you to DO anything about it, I just wanted to tell you. Well, we have a policy at work and it's a good one: All complaints AUTOMATICALLY go to our legal department. You can't half-complain. You either complain with the point of following thru, or you STFU.
The delay in revealing the accuser was due to the woman wanting to keep her identity private. Feinstein tried to keep her promise in not revealing her identity, but something happened to open that Pandora's Box. She knew, as did the Democrats, that this latest fiasco with Kavanaugh was a set up from the beginning. Plus anyone that Trump picks is automatically a scumbag from the rich Republican House of Pain.
Quote:Seriously??? Are you going to blame Russia for bad weather too?
She knew that the Russian Troll Dept. would be working overtime to smear her name, threaten both her and her family, hack her email, etc.
Quote:For whatever reason, the FBI has refused to investigate.
And now those fucking cowards - Hatch, McConnell and Grassley - don't have the balls to follow regular order and call for an investigation into the allegations against that dickhead Kavanaugh.
Quote:But not after calling him "automatically a scumbag from the rich Republican House of Pain" and a "dickhead"? So far, the Dems have not found anything in his decisions or writings that indicate ideological extremism. I confess that I haven't been following the hearings all that closely, but if anything had been found so far I'm sure NPR would be trumpeting it for days...
The FBI did investigate Clarence Thomas when Anita Hill brought charges of sexual and physical assault against him. It took solely 3 days. The Rotten Three, as I call them, have challenged Dr. Ford to appear before the Committee, either in private or public session, but without any witnesses or properly conducted investigation as in the Thomas case. The instant case is a carbon copy of the Thomas/Hill case, whereby the man's conduct has been called into question.
Just for you Siggy - the man is innocent until proven guilty. I, at least, offer up that much.
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But not Hatch and Grassley. They both have commented in the negative against Dr. Ford, the accuser). Fuck those two. Funny thing is that these two hypocrites were all about the investigation when Hill stated her charges against Thomas (another douchebag). This is so ridiculous. All those in favor of drinking the Kool-aid, the line forms behind Siggy.
The Dems want to stall the appointment as long as possible because (1) If Kavanaugh is not in place when the Supreme Court begins its news session and starts oral arguments, he can't rule on any of the cases later and (2) on the off-chance that the Dems take the Senate, his approval is toast.
If the FBI can investigate this quickly ... and I've already brought up a list of sample questions to ask and avenues to pursue ... then by all means, investigate. But apparently the FBI isn't willing to investigate and Ford isn't willing to testify under oath either privately OR in public, so the Senate Judiciary committee can't investigate either. This was badly bungled by Feinstein; she should have made it clear to Ford that there are no such things as "half complaints" and Ford should have either withdrawn her complaint or gone forward with Feinstein pushing for an investigation.
I feel sorry for Ford. She took her personal doubts and fears into a highly politicized environment and was entirely unpr
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Kavanaugh Accuser's Classmate Backs Off Claims She Heard About Alleged Assault
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-20/kavanaugh-accusers-classmate
-backs-claims-she-heard-about-alleged-assault
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
You owe me 1000 bucks.
Don't worry. I know your broke ass doesn't have 1000 bucks, and I don't need it.
lol. Don't worry about it dude. I'll try not to laugh too hard when he gets sworn in. Promise.
Is anyone here surprised Jack the perv doesn't give a hoot about the possible attempted rape of this woman. I'm not, nope, I'm not surprised at all. Are you surprised REAVERFAN?
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Seems awful convenient that in the 11th hour of the guy getting sworn in that all of the sudden some random woman comes out and makes a baseless claim that this guy attempted to rape her over 30 years ago.
I find it hilarious that they wanted the FBI to investigate this as well. How could anybody possibly investigate any of this now?
You're an easily manipulated idiot. It doesn't surprise me one bit that you're willing to believe 100% that this happened, especially since you don't like the pick and you'll cling to any idea that might keep him from being sworn in.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I'm going to ignore any further personal attacks about this one and just sit back and laugh at all of you when he gets sworn in.
You guys lose this one. Sorry not sorry.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:The DEMS were in control of the Senate, and (more importantly) in control of the Judiciary Committee at the time. There were (by your count) 57 Democrats in the Senate and 43 Republicans. So what happened???
Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans. Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looks like Math happened. Reps voted 4 to 1 to put Thomas on the bench. Your comment that "it was the Dems, 'cuz Black" was as full of sh*t as you typically are. You either lied or were just wrong.
Yanno, not sure anyone has mentioned this to you, but you don't have to be full of sh*t. You can be honest - it's an option. If you try it you might find that you end up building an argument that lasts a few pages without being shot down like a Russian plane over Syria.
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My turn to do the guessing and fantasizing:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In a perverse way, I think term limits ENHANCE the role money in elections by forcing people to run as challengers rather than as incumbents, which means they will need (on the average) MORE money for their campaign rather than less.
Good in some ways - Incumbents get far too many votes just by being incumbents. People recognize the name but have no clue about their record.
Campaign finance limits solves all of that, "more money" thing. Those are long overdue as well.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Also, term limits mean that politicians are usually inexperienced ... they don't know how to hold meetings, how to run committees, how to write legislation, and quite often wind up relying on lobbyists to help them.
I don't believe you, at the very least you are exaggerating for effect. And too bad if they have to learn - it's the job.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We had that problem in our State Legislature when term limits were first implemented; we had a whole bunch of "freshmen" legislators who needed to be told what to do every step of the way. It was political kindergarten.
Better than the Old White Man's club who have learned how to game the system so we have net negative representation. Done with that.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
For appointed officials, there are three factors at work:
1) The "cycle" of elections may leave a lasting political bias in the judiciary.
2) People DO get old and senile!
3) People who've been around a long time can form an "old boy's" (or "old gal's") network in which old ideas are never challenged.
Yup! The world changes too fast for people to be permanently there until death, 30 years? Insane, backward, small minded. We can do better.
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Sleazebag.
Yale Law dean: Reports that professor groomed female clerks for Kavanaugh 'of enormous concern'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/yale-law-dean-reports-p
rofessor-groomed-female-clerks-kavanaugh-enormous-n911571
According to reports in The Guardian, the Huffington Post and Above the Law, Amy Chua, a professor at the law school, would advise students on their physical appearance if they wanted to seek a clerkship for Kavanaugh. Specifically, Chua would help potential applicants to have a "model-like" appearance.
So much like Miss Teen USA, walk in on naked teenage girls and brag about it, Blumpy.
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Quote:Soooooo...
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!
I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)
Of course the truth differs from what you said:
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/16/us/the-thomas-confirmation-how-the-
senators-voted-on-thomas.html
Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans.
Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looking forward to shooting down your next lie.
43 Republican Senators.
Thomas was confirmed.
Yep. Dems definitely didn't confirm him. The majority of 41 was enough to confirm, since Democrats would use Libtard Maths to calculate that as majority.
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Quote:Never gradumatated 2nd grade cyphering?
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:The DEMS were in control of the Senate, and (more importantly) in control of the Judiciary Committee at the time. There were (by your count) 57 Democrats in the Senate and 43 Republicans. So what happened???
Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans. Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looks like Math happened. Reps voted 4 to 1 to put Thomas on the bench. Your comment that "it was the Dems, 'cuz Black" was as full of sh*t as you typically are. You either lied or were just wrong.
Yanno, not sure anyone has mentioned this to you, but you don't have to be full of sh*t. You can be honest - it's an option. If you try it you might find that you end up building an argument that lasts a few pages without being shot down like a Russian plane over Syria.
41/2 is closer to 20/1 than 4/1.
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Quote:I recall a babe I had sex with in 1982. She raved on and on. Maybe now, if she is employed at a basement barrel school, she could change her tune and say I raped her, sevaral times, or at least once.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
You owe me 1000 bucks.
Don't worry. I know your broke ass doesn't have 1000 bucks, and I don't need it.
lol. Don't worry about it dude. I'll try not to laugh too hard when he gets sworn in. Promise.
Is anyone here surprised Jack the perv doesn't give a hoot about the possible attempted rape of this woman. I'm not, nope, I'm not surprised at all. Are you surprised REAVERFAN?
T
Seems awful convenient that in the 11th hour of the guy getting sworn in that all of the sudden some random woman comes out and makes a baseless claim that this guy attempted to rape her over 30 years ago.
I find it hilarious that they wanted the FBI to investigate this as well. How could anybody possibly investigate any of this now?
You're an easily manipulated idiot. It doesn't surprise me one bit that you're willing to believe 100% that this happened, especially since you don't like the pick and you'll cling to any idea that might keep him from being sworn in.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
It is appalling that some women, many of whom clamor to be allowed to make decisions about their body, or make decisions about when they have intercourse, or who they make love with, can support women who, after decades, can be so retroactively indecisive about other teenagers.
Maybe this bimbo can claim it happened in Indiana, so he can be convicted.
Why has Lena Done'um not accused Kavanaugh yet? What's the holdup?
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It's what the Leftists have devolved to. They are losing everything. Every argument. All power.
All they can do now is claim RAPE!!!!
It's all they've got, but they're foolishly wasting that and over saturating the public with it to the point you're hearing about something new every week.
How many Republicans and other non-Democrats running do you expect to hear rape claims about as the mid-terms approach.
My guess is more than one.
I think we're seeing the death of the Democratic Party in action. They don't even realize that they are killing themselves. Everything they do undermines their own efforts, and public opinion of them is at an all time low. But they don't even realize it because they're all sitting on their moral high horses and the Media is telling them that they're right.
It's like the 2016 election all over again, every single day.
When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Oh, I know what their answer will be ... RUSSIA!!!!
When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened. - SIX
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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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You mean allegation against Kavanaugh?
Yes. What's the fucking title of this thread?
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Yanno this drive me nucking futz. I can't tell you the number of times that a woman complained to me about a male co-worker and said I don't want you to DO anything about it, I just wanted to tell you. Well, we have a policy at work and it's a good one: All complaints AUTOMATICALLY go to our legal department. You can't half-complain. You either complain with the point of following thru, or you STFU.
Have you ever been raped or sexually assaulted?...if no, then you STFU. You don't know what this woman has been through. You seem to follow the "company" line - men say such things, the scumbags at least (you know, like your Orange fucking leader). I haven't been attacked either, but I did work with battered
women as part of my training (and did community work for a year). Plus the fact that experts in the field state that women who experience sexual assault
are traumatized to the point of near paralysis. Some fully recover, while others live in constant fear.
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Seriously??? Are you going to blame Russia for bad weather too?
Yeah, the Russian troll part may have been a bit much, but in my defense, I was on a roll....lol
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For whatever reason, the FBI has refused to investigate.
Let me let you in on a little-known secret. You know that I at the end of FB
in the title, it stands for Investigate. Another little known fact, the
president can request that the FBI conduct an investigation. Plus if both
Kavanaugh and Grassley want to "clear" his name, they can request an official
investigation by writing a letter - Kav to the committee, and the committee to
the president. Also, if the president wants to clear his name, he could call
for the investigation. Why not? He likes bossing people around. So, it's
curious that all - Kav, the prez or those dickheads from the Judiciary
Committee - have flat out refused to request the FBI to move forward and do
what they've been trained to do - namely investigate.
I'm going to break up my response at this point because, well, I want to:
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But not after calling him "automatically a scumbag from the rich Republican House of Pain" and a "dickhead"
I do that because it's fun.
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So far, the Dems have not found anything in his decisions or writings that indicate ideological extremism.
Well, that right there...it's not entirely true.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/03/hours-bef
ore-kavanaugh-nomination-hearings-bush-lawyer-releases-42000-pages-of-documents-to-judiciary-committee/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3aaefbc49311
Withheld documents that did not allow the Dems on the JC to properly review ahead of the Kav' hearing. Scumbag politics at it's most effective.
"Democrats argue that senators should make the same demands of Mr. Kavanaugh as they did of Justice Elena Kagan during her confirmation proceedings. Ms. Kagan served President Bill Clinton before joining the federal bench; senators received records from her White House tenure. Republicans counter that Mr. Kavanaugh’s work as staff secretary was not comparable; his job was more about keeping documents flowing in the right directions at the right times, not offering substantive contributions to the policy questions crossing his desk."
"Democrats argue that senators should make the same demands of Mr. Kavanaugh as they did of Justice Elena Kagan during her confirmation proceedings. Ms. Kagan served President Bill Clinton before joining the federal bench; senators received records from her White House tenure. Republicans counter that Mr. Kavanaugh’s work as staff secretary was not comparable; his job was more about keeping documents flowing in the right directions at the right times, not offering substantive contributions to the policy questions crossin
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You didn't drink the Kool-Aid, you're swimming in it!
SGG
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's what the Leftists have devolved to. They are losing everything. Every argument. All power.
All they can do now is claim RAPE!!!!
It's all they've got, but they're foolishly wasting that and over saturating the public with it to the point you're hearing about something new every week.
How many Republicans and other non-Democrats running do you expect to hear rape claims about as the mid-terms approach.
My guess is more than one.
I think we're seeing the death of the Democratic Party in action. They don't even realize that they are killing themselves. Everything they do undermines their own efforts, and public opinion of them is at an all time low. But they don't even realize it because they're all sitting on their moral high horses and the Media is telling them that they're right.
It's like the 2016 election all over again, every single day.
When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I'm sure you would have told me the exact same thing on November 7th of 2016.
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You didn't drink the Kool-Aid, you're swimming in it!
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's what the Leftists have devolved to. They are losing everything. Every argument. All power.
All they can do now is claim RAPE!!!!
It's all they've got, but they're foolishly wasting that and over saturating the public with it to the point you're hearing about something new every week.
How many Republicans and other non-Democrats running do you expect to hear rape claims about as the mid-terms approach.
My guess is more than one.
I think we're seeing the death of the Democratic Party in action. They don't even realize that they are killing themselves. Everything they do undermines their own efforts, and public opinion of them is at an all time low. But they don't even realize it because they're all sitting on their moral high horses and the Media is telling them that they're right.
It's like the 2016 election all over again, every single day.
When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Soooooo...
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!
I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)
Of course the truth differs from what you said:
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/16/us/the-thomas-confirmation-how-the-
senators-voted-on-thomas.html
Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans.
Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looking forward to shooting down your next lie.
43 Republican Senators.
Thomas was confirmed.
Yep. Dems definitely didn't confirm him. The majority of 41 was enough to confirm, since Democrats would use Libtard Maths to calculate that as majority.
Hey! You changed your answer! I guess you realized YOUR math was sh*t - what a putz.
Thomas was confirmed by a majority of Republicans, 4 - 1. I give you credit JSF, you are relentlessly stupid.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Never gradumatated 2nd grade cyphering?
41/2 is closer to 20/1 than 4/1.
You never even went to school, did ya JSF?
The split was 4 Reps to 1 Dem for Thomas.
60 to 5 is closer to 12 to 1 than 4 to 1 btw.
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Okay, I guess I have to spell it out.....
Rape is a real thing. It's not political, it's reality. What you are doing is
making wild accusations and a false narrative to justify calling Democrats
low-lives. That is as sick as RAPE itself.
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I'm sure you would have told me the exact same thing on November 7th of 2016.
I have no idea WTF you mean with this absolutely inane statement. Okay, I'm done trying to understand.
sgg
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm sure you would have told me the exact same thing on November 7th of 2016.Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You didn't drink the Kool-Aid, you're swimming in it!
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's what the Leftists have devolved to. They are losing everything. Every argument. All power.
All they can do now is claim RAPE!!!!
It's all they've got, but they're foolishly wasting that and over saturating the public with it to the point you're hearing about something new every week.
How many Republicans and other non-Democrats running do you expect to hear rape claims about as the mid-terms approach.
My guess is more than one.
I think we're seeing the death of the Democratic Party in action. They don't even realize that they are killing themselves. Everything they do undermines their own efforts, and public opinion of them is at an all time low. But they don't even realize it because they're all sitting on their moral high horses and the Media is telling them that they're right.
It's like the 2016 election all over again, every single day.
When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The Kavanaugh Affair Careened Off a Cliff
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh, I know what their answer will be ... RUSSIA!!!!
When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened. - SIX
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
If Kavanaugh himself is even remotely involved in this, he’s toast:
The nomination was roiled further late Thursday by incendiary tweets from a prominent Kavanaugh friend and supporter who publicly identified another high school classmate of Kavanaugh’s as Ford’s possible attacker. Ed Whelan, a former clerk to the late justice Antonin Scalia and president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, pointed to floor plans, online photographs and other information to suggest a location for the house party in suburban Maryland that Ford described. He also named and posted photographs of the classmate he suggested could be responsible.
Ford dismissed Whelan’s theory in a statement late Thursday: “I knew them both, and socialized with” the other classmate, Ford said, adding that she had once visited him in the hospital. “There is zero chance that I would confuse them.”
It’s beyond belief that Kavanaugh might have something to do with a slanderous allegation like Whelan’s, but given the fact pattern in the Post account, it’s also a little hard to believe he wasn’t aware of what Whelan was up to. If Kavanaugh himself is even remotely involved in getting Whelan to slander a third party to take the pressure off of himself, Kavanaugh is toast.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/09/the-kavanaugh-affair-careened-o
ff-a-cliff-today/
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Quote:I see that the GOP's Ed Whelan apologizes for insinuating a Kavanaugh doppelgänger assaulted Ford. Tactically, Whelan made a very bad mistake. Now that everyone in the GOP has told him that his lies won't fly and could actually kill Kavanaugh's nomination, should it ever be investigated if Kavanaugh asked Whelan to lie for him, Whelan retracts everything, never admitting he lied to help Kavanaugh.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I know what their answer will be ... RUSSIA!!!!
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
More at www.vox.com/2018/9/20/17885050/ed-whelan-kavanaugh-ford-accusation-sco
tus
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We all know what's going on and it's a sad commentary on the GOP. They will pay in Nov.
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Quote:Maybe they won't pay. The GOP has a 68% chance of holding control of the Senate, which means Trump can cram whoever he wants onto the Supreme Court or into the Attorney General position after he fires Jeff Sessions, followed a few months later by shutting down Mueller.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
We all know what's going on and it's a sad commentary on the GOP. They will pay in Nov.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/se
nate/?ex_cid=midterms-header
It is a different story in the House of Representatives. The GOP will almost surely pay a price where they can't pass their usual laws over the opposition of nearly every Democrat because there is an 80% chance the GOP loses control of the House. As Trump likes to say about predictions, "We will see."
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/ho
use/?ex_cid=midterms-header
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The person who really botched this whole thing was Feinstein. After reading Ford's complaint, she should have immediately told her that either the Senate would need to go public and start an investigation, or handed it back and told her to tear it up.
The problem with "secret" complaints is that the complainants want all of the up-side (put a complaint in file/ create a record; tarnish someone's reputation/prevent promotion) with none of the down-sides (having their word examined and cross-checked in public; allowing the accused to face their accuser). I find that cowardly. Worse, its a bad procedure which encourages baseless/ malicious complaints. Yes, I know ... women have a hard time dealing with this kind of conflict. But in the interests of fairness, they need to put their big-girl pants on and step up to the challenge.
I recall reading a story that really stuck with me because it was about a young woman very much like our daughter was: a then-16-year old with the mental age of a 7-year old, with poorly-controlled seizures that could be brought on by stress. Well, she was molested by a man, but a criminal charge could not be pursued unless she was willing to testify. This poor young woman, facing all of those challenges, DID testify even tho she paid for it with seizures afterwards. If SHE could manage the process, a a fully-competent, apparently wealthy and well-supported upper middle-class professor should be able to.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Quote:There’s a strange dimension to the Republican campaign to push through Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination. It’s their insistence that he is “one of the most qualified Supreme Court nominees to come before the Senate,” as Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Chuck Grassley put it. “His credentials are well known.”
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I find the tactics that the Dems are using . . .
But an honest look at his career shows that it’s extraordinarily undistinguished.
Born into a privileged family that was well-connected in Republican Party politics, Kavanaugh coasted from Georgetown Prep, where he was apparently a hard partier, into Yale, where he joined the notoriously hard-partying secret society Truth & Courage, and then on to Yale Law School.
Soon after graduating, he got a gig working for independent counsel Ken Starr — a plum position for a Republican lawyer on the make because the Starr inquiry was supposed to take down the Clinton administration. Instead, it was an impeachment process that was so spectacularly misguided legally that Democrats pulled off the nearly impossible feat of gaining seats during a midterm election when they controlled the White House.
Kavanaugh clerked for Alex Kozinski, an appeals court judge who was well known to the lay public for his witty opinions and well known to the legal community as a sexual harasser. When the sexual harassment became a matter of public embarrassment in the wake of the #MeToo movement, Kavanaugh professed to have simply not noticed anything amiss.
More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/21/17876832/kavanaugh-trump-cri
sis-elite-accountability
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Okay, I guess I have to spell it out.....
Rape is a real thing. It's not political, it's reality. What you are doing is
making wild accusations and a false narrative to justify calling Democrats
low-lives. That is as sick as RAPE itself.
I'm making wild accusations and false narratives?
SHE is making wild accusations and false narratives.
Sorry, brother, but I never bought into this whole Leftist idea of "always believe the woman no matter what" bullshit long before Kavanaugh, and neither does most of the country.
You're making a choice to believe a 30+ year after the allegation, allegation. I would say that you're only doing that because of the politics behind it, but in this insane age we're living in where you're guilty until proven innocent I really can't say that for sure about your opinion.
Quote:
SGG: You didn't drink the Kool-Aid, you're swimming in it!
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6IX: I'm sure you would have told me the exact same thing on November 7th of 2016.
Quote:
SGG: I have no idea WTF you mean with this absolutely inane statement. Okay, I'm done trying to understand.
Oh, you don't, huh?
Let me spell it out for YOU.
The absolute DEVASTATION that a lot of Liberals felt when they woke up on the morning of November 9th, 2016 was due in VERY LARGE part to the Media that was lying to them by skewing polling data intentionally to show that Clinton was going to win by so much it wouldn't even be close when the exact opposite was true.
The same thing is happening with the Democratic party right now. It has doubled down on every bad aspect of itself in the last two years and the normies aren't buying it anymore. I expect fully to see the Republicans now maintain the majority in the house and senate, and you're going to have a lopsided Supreme Court in GOP favor as well.
The absolute best case scenario for the Dems right now is to take the house, like Second mentioned.
How does a thing like this happen under somebody so divisive as Trump? How can the Democrats be so hated by the average citizen that isn't firmly in their echo chamber that Trump likely grows in power 6 weeks from now?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Got a minute? Kavanaugh's High School Yearbook
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Yup. False rape allegations are hilarious.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You mean it's not the fault of Bush41?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh, I know what their answer will be ... RUSSIA!!!!
When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened. - SIX
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Quote:My answer did not change. What are you smoking? How does 41:2 equal 4:1? How is 41 a majority of 100?
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Soooooo...
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!
I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)
Of course the truth differs from what you said:
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/16/us/the-thomas-confirmation-how-the-
senators-voted-on-thomas.html
Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans.
Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looking forward to shooting down your next lie.
43 Republican Senators.
Thomas was confirmed.
Yep. Dems definitely didn't confirm him. The majority of 41 was enough to confirm, since Democrats would use Libtard Maths to calculate that as majority.
Hey! You changed your answer! I guess you realized YOUR math was sh*t - what a putz.
Thomas was confirmed by a majority of Republicans, 4 - 1. I give you credit JSF, you are relentlessly stupid.
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SECOND
SPEAKING OF UNDISTINGUISHED RECORDS OF THE PRIVILEGED: JOHN MCCAIN HERO OF THE NATION
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The untold truth of John McCain
Mike Redmond Nicki Swift @NickiSwiftCeleb
The late Arizona Sen. John McCain was well known for his long career in Congress and his two attempts at the presidency, particularly his most recent run against Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election. McCain's campaign on the Republican ticket famously pushed his running mate, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, into the national spotlight. Most people are probably also aware of McCain's heroic five-year stint in a Vietnamese prison camp. The naval aviator refused to use his family name as a bargaining chip and instead demanded the release of other soldiers. The details of McCain's political and personal life are an interesting tapestry that explain why the statesman earned his famous reputation as a maverick.
True to form, McCain continued striving to serve his country even after being diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor in 2017. That year, while fighting for his life, the senator "made a dramatic appearance in the Senate to cast a thumbs-down vote against his party's drive to repeal the Affordable Care Act," reported The New York Times. The powerful statesman died Aug. 25, 2018 at his home in Arizona. He was 81.
Though McCain's influential life has been well-documented, there are still elements of this story that are less familiar to the general public. Let's take a closer look at the untold truth of John McCain.
He had an awesome nickname in high school
John McCain's fiery personality was already evident during his high school days. His classmates, who dubbed him "Punk," had some interesting words for McCain in their senior yearbook. "His magnetic personality has won for him many life-long friends," the editors wrote, according to ABC News. "But, as magnets must also repel, some have found him hard to get along with."
To his close friends, McCain had an altogether different nickname that, unfortunately, didn't stick around for his political career: "McNasty." The sweet moniker reportedly came from his time on the wrestling team, but it would also be a fitting title for the start of McCain's military career.
After high school, McCain followed in the footsteps of his father, Adm. Jack McCain, and grandfather, Adm. John "Slew" McCain, by enrolling in the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md. But right off the bat, the youngest McCain had trouble adapting to academy life, according to The Arizona Republic. He reportedly fought with upperclassmen, and every year, he earned a spot in the "Century Club" for earning more than 100 demerits for refusing to clean his quarters, shine his shoes, or show up on time for formation. He graduated near the bottom of his class, which turned out to be something of a family tradition as well.
Where the young McCain really excelled was with the ladies. His fellow cadets reportedly called him "John Wayne McCain" and often turned to him for advice when it came to the opposite sex. "He was graying at the temples, and it made him more dashing." said McCain's Naval Academy roommate. "It was a real adventure living with John."
He was a party animal while stationed in Florida
During his early years in the Navy, McCain was stationed in Pensacola, Fla., where he earned a reputation for throwing the "most raucous and longest beach parties of any squadron in the Navy," reported TIME. "He dated everyone from schoolteachers to the strippers at Trader John's [sic], the fabled airdale raunch bar, often returning to base just in time to change clothes and drag himself out to the flightline," according to Robert Timberg, author of John McCain: An American Odyssey.
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Quote:My answer did not change. What are you smoking? How does 41:2 equal 4:1? How is 41 a majority of 100?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Thomas was confirmed by a majority of Republicans, 4 - 1. I give you credit JSF, you are relentlessly stupid.
You seem to have confused yourself on purpose - it seems to be a particular Trumpbot defense when they find themselves utterly wrong.
Let me help you:
Thomas won the nomination by the count of 41 Republicans 11 Democrats. Is that a 4 to 1 ratio?
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The unbelievably stupid sh*t you post...
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
SHE is making wild accusations and false narratives.
Ironically, you just made a wild accusation.
You're basing that on...what? Your feelz again?
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Sorry, brother, but I never bought into this whole Leftist idea of "always believe the woman no matter what" bullshit long before Kavanaugh, and neither does most of the country.
Most of the country??? How would you know what most of the country believes?
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're making a choice to believe a 30+ year after the allegation, allegation. I would say that you're only doing that because of the politics behind it, but in this insane age we're living in where you're guilty until proven innocent I really can't say that for sure about your opinion.
According to you she's lying, so according to you she's guilty and has to prove her innocence.
She's calling for an FBI investigation to prove guilt or innocence. Are you even remotely aware of the facts of this case?
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How does a thing like this happen under somebody so divisive as Trump? How can the Democrats be so hated by the average citizen that isn't firmly in their echo chamber that Trump likely grows in power 6 weeks from now?
How many average citizens do you know? 20?
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
The unbelievably stupid sh*t you post...
Ironically, you just made a wild accusation.
You're basing that on...what? Your feelz again?
No I'm not. The burden of proof is on her. That's the law of the land buddy. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to leave.
Maybe you'd prefer to live in a predominantly Muslim country where they'll just chop a woman's head off if she were to make rape allegations?
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Most of the country??? How would you know what most of the country believes?
I talk to people outside of my echo chamber. In fact, if you look around here I don't even have an echo chamber. The ones you agree with here, you agree with every single thing that they say and post. I argue with everyone, including Sigs.
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According to you she's lying, so according to you she's guilty and has to prove her innocence
She's calling for an FBI investigation to prove guilt or innocence. Are you even remotely aware of the facts of this case?
According to me, especially in light of the timing and the fact that making rape allegations is en vogue, I think there is a strong reason to be suspicious of her allegations.
But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying.
I'm aware of the facts of the case. I'm also aware that if this case gets stalled enough there is hopes that enough Dems can be voted in to block the Kavanaugh appointment regardless of the rape allegations.
Mark my words that if that were to happen, you won't ever hear another peep about this case after the mid-term elections.
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How many average citizens do you know? 20?
Probably a lot more than you do.
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The perv weights in G and it's the women who is lying according to Jack. No surprise there.
"Dr. Ford passed a lie detector test and asked for an FBI investigation," Cummings tweeted. "Will Judge Kavanaugh do the same?"
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/407587-rep-cummings-will-kavanaugh-
take-lie-detector-and-ask-for-fbi-investigation
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The perv weights in G and it's the women who is lying according to Jack. No surprise there.
"Dr. Ford passed a lie detector test and asked for an FBI investigation," Cummings tweeted. "Will Judge Kavanaugh do the same?"
Oh. More personal insults. Big surprise.
And about lie detector tests...
But by all means... please allow this farce to continue. I'm entertained.
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Careful there buddy... you don't want to make the...
Oh... nevermind.
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Wow Jack, get some help.
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Wow Jack, get some help.
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Sure. Deny you know what I'm talking about.
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Quote:That's not how it works, legally OR in real life. If there is no proof, then the suspect is found ... not "innocent" but "NOT GUILTY" ... and the accuser isn't necessarily lying. Attempted rape can often occur without leaving evidence, and in the circumstances of THIS accusation, she was a 15-year-old girl in a house with boys and alcohol and no adult supervision (One thing we don't know is whether SHE had been drinking too) and she could have been too scared to report this to the police because she might have gotten into serious trouble with her parents and/or kids just don't snitch on each other and/or she felt she might have at least partly precipitated the event by her own behavior.
But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying.
So I can imagine how this would have gone unreported and why there would be no "evidence".
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That's not how it works, legally OR in real life. If there is no proof, then the suspect is found ... not "innocent" but "NOT GUILTY" ... and the accuser isn't necessarily lying. Attempted rape can often occur without leaving evidence, and in the circumstances of THIS accusation, she was a 15-year-old girl in a house with boys and alcohol and no adult supervision (One thing we don't know is whether SHE had been drinking too) and she could have been too scared to report this to the police because she might have gotten into serious trouble with her parents and/or kids just don't snitch on each other and/or she felt she might have at least partly precipitated the event by her own behavior.
But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying.
So I can imagine how this would have gone unreported and why there would be no "evidence".
It is my firm belief that the number of women who have been sexually assaulted and have not reported it because: it was just easier not to, or because they thought maybe just maybe it was their fault, or other completely innocent reasons, is astronomical. It dwarfs the number of women who would come forward and fabricate an assault, claim a rape that didn't happen, just to gain some "advantage" - even this one. She's the one who is asking for the claim to be investigated! Jack, as well as most GOP on the judiciary committee are old f*cking fossils that think of women as secondary citizens, "wives" - they need to get out of the way, enjoy their retirement.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Ironically, you just made a wild accusation.
You're basing that on...what? Your feelz again?
No I'm not. The burden of proof is on her. That's the law of the land buddy. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to leave.
Hell yes you are! You said: "SHE is making wild accusations and false narratives. " How do you know she's making wild accusations?
The burden of proof? She's asking for the FBI to investigate, right? You think she is carrying around a receipt? F*cksake. The GOP senators are the ones you need to drop that knowledge on.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That's not how it works, legally OR in real life. If there is no proof, then the suspect is found ... not "innocent" but "NOT GUILTY" ... and the accuser isn't necessarily lying. Attempted rape can often occur without leaving evidence, and in the circumstances of THIS accusation, she was a 15-year-old girl in a house with boys and alcohol and no adult supervision (One thing we don't know is whether SHE had been drinking too) and she could have been too scared to report this to the police because she might have gotten into serious trouble with her parents and/or kids just don't snitch on each other and/or she felt she might have at least partly precipitated the event by her own behavior.
But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying.
So I can imagine how this would have gone unreported and why there would be no "evidence".
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That is precisely how the law works.
You're forgetting about Libel and Slander, Sigs, which you and Kiki have brought up quite a bit on these boards.
Let's face it. Up until recently, when false rape allegations were made, it has ruined lives of men who were targets of them, even if they were found Not Guilty. The tides seem to be turning on that these days though because only the most hard core Leftist Feminist blindly believes anyone who cries rape without knowing any of the facts, and there are quite a few women who are being charged for lying about this now. As they should be.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Ironically, you just made a wild accusation.
You're basing that on...what? Your feelz again?
No I'm not. The burden of proof is on her. That's the law of the land buddy. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to leave.
Hell yes you are! You said: "SHE is making wild accusations and false narratives. " How do you know she's making wild accusations?
The burden of proof? She's asking for the FBI to investigate, right? You think she is carrying around a receipt? F*cksake. The GOP senators are the ones you need to drop that knowledge on.
And what, pray tell, do you think the FBI is going to do about it 30 years later?
lol
There is ZERO way to prove that this ever took place. This is nothing more than a political attack that was done in the 11th hour in an attempt to block Kavanaugh from being sworn in before the mid-terms in the hopes that enough Democrats are voted in to block him.
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Quote:I wanted to get back to this because I was an adult when this happened, and actually recall what was going on during this hearing.
I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden! - SIGNY
^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)- SHIT
"Race" was brought up by Clarence Thomas himself, who called the hearings a "high tech lynching". Because Thomas' record was something of a cypher (like Obama before his election), among the Democratic public there was a lot of discussion as to whether Thomas' race would be predictive of a liberal bent. That was the first time I heard the distinction between a "field slave" and a "house slave".
And curiously, NPR just had a segment on how Joe Biden, chair of the Judiciary Committee, HIMSELF offered a full-throated defense of Thomas ("This is not an attack on his character..."), and how there were three other witnesses offering corroborating evidence that Biden didn't call to testify. So while "Democrats" in general didn't vote for Thomas, BIDEN certainly shepherded Thomas thru the hearings and a critical number of Democrats voted for him.
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Quote:First of all, even in criminal cases you don't have to "prove" your case, all you have to do is demonstrate your case beyond a REASONABLE doubt (not "beyond the shadow of a doubt").
And what, pray tell, do you think the FBI is going to do about it 30 years later?
lol
There is ZERO way to prove that this ever took place.- SIX
So, how COULD this be demonstrated beyond a "reasonable" doubt? Well, the other highschooler who was in the room - Judge- could suddenly recover his memory and testify with Ford. The two other teenagers there ... did they see Ford run out of the house looking flustered? OR do none of them even remember a party like that ever took place?
There would be no physical evidence, just testimony. And it's unlikely that anything definitive will show up ... or in fact, anything at all ... but not impossible.
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Quote:You don't think this Floozy-Ford gets a pass since she has been an Ultra Looney Leftist Radical Activist all her life?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That's not how it works, legally OR in real life. If there is no proof, then the suspect is found ... not "innocent" but "NOT GUILTY" ... and the accuser isn't necessarily lying. Attempted rape can often occur without leaving evidence, and in the circumstances of THIS accusation, she was a 15-year-old girl in a house with boys and alcohol and no adult supervision (One thing we don't know is whether SHE had been drinking too) and she could have been too scared to report this to the police because she might have gotten into serious trouble with her parents and/or kids just don't snitch on each other and/or she felt she might have at least partly precipitated the event by her own behavior.
But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying.
So I can imagine how this would have gone unreported and why there would be no "evidence".
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That is precisely how the law works.
You're forgetting about Libel and Slander, Sigs, which you and Kiki have brought up quite a bit on these boards.
Let's face it. Up until recently, when false rape allegations were made, it has ruined lives of men who were targets of them, even if they were found Not Guilty. The tides seem to be turning on that these days though because only the most hard core Leftist Feminist blindly believes anyone who cries rape without knowing any of the facts, and there are quite a few women who are being charged for lying about this now. As they should be.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Even despite lapsing the 1 year Statute of Limitations?
Apparently, if the storyline were accurate, occurring in Maryland, the category would be a Sexual Offense, 4th Degree, a misdemeanor. Statute of Limitations are currently 1 year, may have been different in 1982, 1981, 1983 (the Radical Activist claiming to be "victim" cannot recall the year of this supposed event in her life.
Or is this an example of Fake Stories planted in Memory by shrinks?
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I think everyone here knows JSF is the looney one.
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The Right-Wing Media Machine Was Built to Destroy People Like Christine Blasey Ford
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/09/22/the-right-wing-media-machine-
was-built-to-destroy-people-like-christine-blasey-ford/
They’re more aroused by the thought of destroying lives than Donald Trump was aroused by Stormy Daniels.
The battle to destroy the life of Christine Blasey Ford is just the latest front in the right’s long war to obliterate anything that stands in the way of its full political hegemony. Ford was right to be nervous about coming forward; she knew that the wolves of right-wing media vengeance would be unleashed upon her.
Destruction of real or perceived opponents was at the core of conservatism from the very beginning. William F. Buckley Jr. really did want to sock Gore Vidal in his face, and probably wanted to break his fingers as well in order to prevent him from communicating his views. The demonization of Ted Kennedy, the spewing of venom towards Hillary Clinton, the rhetorical bludgeoning of Graeme Frost, the sexist scorn aimed at Sandra Fluke; the victims of the right’s media assault, both famous and unknown, all bear the scars.
The right built an entire media infrastructure to fuel this hate. Remember Buckley’s National Review hurling hostility towards civil rights activists. Remember Roger Ailes’s 1970s-era scheme to create a right-wing news channel. Remember the fellow who took advantage of President Reagan’s 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine to spread Rush Limbaugh’s lies all over our public airwaves.
Tuesday night, former right-wing operative David Brock appeared on MSNBC’s All In with Chris Hayes to discuss the right’s modus operandi when it comes to destroying real or perceived enemies. Brock knew Kavanaugh during his time carrying water for conservatives, and his brilliant 2002 book Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative highlights the Supreme Court nominee’s mendacity:
Since my relationships were based on little else but partisan politics, there was little to sustain them once I deviated from the party line. I lost many party invitations; others I turned down, including a huge fete hosted by Boyden Gray at his Georgetown mansion in honor of Rush Limbaugh. I reluctantly accepted Laura Ingraham’s invitation to watch Bill Clinton’s State of the Union address in January 1997 with her and her friends at her town house in Woodley Park.
As I arrived at the house, which was decked out in an oversized southwestern motif more appropriate for a bachelor’s mountain hideaway, the network cameras were coming on. When I saw one of Ken Starr’s deputies, Brett Kavanaugh, who was sitting across from me, mouth the word “bitch” when the camera panned to Hillary [Clinton], I excused myself and sat in the darkened pine-scented dining room alone, smoking.
The word Kavanaugh muttered about Clinton in 1997 is the same word right-wingers are muttering about Ford in 2018. Tomorrow morning, in right-wing churches across the country, MAGA-maniac ministers will compare Ford to Jezebel and Delilah, trashing her as a vessel of Satan, calling down God’s judgment upon her. The hatred of Ford will spread like a cancer left untreated by Republican opposition to Medicare for All. It will not cease. It cannot cease.
Even if Kavanaugh is not confirmed, we have already borne witness to the full, dark power of the right-wing media empire–a force powerful enough to drive a woman and her family out of her home. The only question is: can this media empire be destroyed…or will it destroy the country first?
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Quote:It's mildly amusing watching Nazi incels egged on by Russian trolls slut-shaming a woman who is smarter and more successful than they'll ever be.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:You don't think this Floozy-Ford gets a pass since she has been an Ultra Looney Leftist Radical Activist all her life?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That's not how it works, legally OR in real life. If there is no proof, then the suspect is found ... not "innocent" but "NOT GUILTY" ... and the accuser isn't necessarily lying. Attempted rape can often occur without leaving evidence, and in the circumstances of THIS accusation, she was a 15-year-old girl in a house with boys and alcohol and no adult supervision (One thing we don't know is whether SHE had been drinking too) and she could have been too scared to report this to the police because she might have gotten into serious trouble with her parents and/or kids just don't snitch on each other and/or she felt she might have at least partly precipitated the event by her own behavior.
But yes, that IS what happens when you make rape allegations. Now the burden of proof lies on you, and if there is no proof then you're lying.
So I can imagine how this would have gone unreported and why there would be no "evidence".
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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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That is precisely how the law works.
You're forgetting about Libel and Slander, Sigs, which you and Kiki have brought up quite a bit on these boards.
Let's face it. Up until recently, when false rape allegations were made, it has ruined lives of men who were targets of them, even if they were found Not Guilty. The tides seem to be turning on that these days though because only the most hard core Leftist Feminist blindly believes anyone who cries rape without knowing any of the facts, and there are quite a few women who are being charged for lying about this now. As they should be.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Even despite lapsing the 1 year Statute of Limitations?
Apparently, if the storyline were accurate, occurring in Maryland, the category would be a Sexual Offense, 4th Degree, a misdemeanor. Statute of Limitations are currently 1 year, may have been different in 1982, 1981, 1983 (the Radical Activist claiming to be "victim" cannot recall the year of this supposed event in her life.
Or is this an example of Fake Stories planted in Memory by shrinks?
You're all idiots. Enjoy your misery.
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Yup. Anybody who doesn't fit your narrative is a woman hating Nazi.
Clinton tried that tactic and lost. And you've been bitching about it now for 2 years.
Some people just don't learn.
Hell... even Obama's recent speeches say that you're wrong bro.
Keep on clinging to your identity politics and die.
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Some here are to thick to realize that it's what women not men believe that matters. Elections are right around the corner, see you at the polls.
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I find the tactics that the Dems are using to delay and obstruct the process quite inventive, considering that they don't have the vote. Aside from the constant shouting from the gallery, the Dems have managed to ...
Demand endless reams of paperwork from Kavanaugh's history in the Bush WH,
Delay allegations of sexual misconduct until VERY late in the process,
Then demand a public hearing,
And then change their stance and demand a "full FBI investigation" as soon as a public hearing was acceded to.
Now, I have no idea whether the allegations are true or false. (But if we were to follow THUGR's stance of letting Clinton's bygones be bygones, I suppose we could let this 30-year old allegation also be lost in the mists of history. Right?)
But I'd be willing to bet SOME dollars that if you were to look into this professor's activities, you'd find her working with Democratic Senators in the past six months or so, working out the timing and tactics for maximum effect.
BRAVO!
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Some here are to thick to realize that it's what women not men believe that matters.
What does that even mean?
You're definitely going to have to follow up that bullshit with something.
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Sure, what a fucking moron.
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The wild allegations are coming from the Republicans (naturally), and they just keep screwing up.
Ford runs circles around hapless Republicans, who now have a second scandal
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/22/ford-runs-c
ircles-around-hapless-republicans-who-now-have-a-second-scandal/?noredirect=on&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.69f2f45ec6ff
You can't make this stuff up.
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Sure, what a fucking moron.
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Classy.
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Republican spokesman for nomination of Brett Kavanaugh resigns after past harassment claims surface
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/22/gop-aide-for-brett-kavanaugh-previousl
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No I'm not.
Yes you are. I'll try again - You said: "SHE is making wild accusations and false narratives. "
How do you know she's making wild accusations?
Why can't you answer that simple question?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And what, pray tell, do you think the FBI is going to do about it 30 years later?
And what pray tell would you know about what the FBI can do about it 30 years later? You think you can walk in off the street and be an FBI agent? Just, "I read the Internet, so I know she's lying?"
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe you'd prefer to live in a predominantly Muslim country where they'll just chop a woman's head off if she were to make rape allegations?)
WTF? Do you read your own posts? I'm defending her right to speak and have the FBI investigate - why would I want her head chopped off? That's what you want. Taking tips from Siggy?
The stupid sh*t you post.
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Fucking laughing my ass off.....now that's funny!
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Originally posted by second:
Got a minute? Kavanaugh's High School Yearbook
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Let's face it. Up until recently, when false rape allegations were made, it has ruined lives of men who were targets of them, even if they were found Not Guilty. The tides seem to be turning on that these days though because only the most hard core Leftist Feminist blindly believes anyone who cries rape without knowing any of the facts, and there are quite a few women who are being charged for lying about this now. As they should be.
Six,
I'm trying to understand your post here because it seems you're making two opposing arguments:
1- That the law provides certain protections regarding rape charges and rightfully so...
2- and that women have taken advantage of said laws to make false claims
of rape against unsuspecting and innocent men
Correct me if I'm wrong. The lives of these innocent men have suffered
because of these false claims. And these claims are blindly believed to be
true, seemingly only by the left, and that consequently two trends have
arisen as a result:
a- namely, innocent men's lives are ruined
b- that these "false claimers" are being caught and punished
Well, that's a mighty bold and extremely general statement. Has there been
a recent rash of innocent men, who's lives have been ruined by false rape
allegations? Is there a movement on behalf of these men? Or, perhaps, a website that speaks as to their shame and ruin? Perhaps a #I'veBeenWronged!
Years ago, I heard of an organization of single fathers who formed a
support group and met every Wednesday at 7 p.m. They would discuss legal
ways to combat women who would use the system against them to abuse and
mistreat them as fathers. You mean something like that has been formed?
In other words, facts man. The very thing you mention in your post in your
response to Sigs and Keeks. Has such an organization been formed? Is there a
hashtag? Have there been reports of women being punished for false claims
and accusations? Just curious as to how you came to the conclusions you made.
SGG
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As to your post regarding criminal cases and such...yes, there are differences
in proving one's case (reasonable doubt, etc.), but this is not a criminal case. It is a hearing where you present your side. In this matter, the JC
will hear testimony as to charges brought against Kavanaugh regarding assault.
The best that can be done is to interview all involved. That screams for an
FBI investigation, since this is what they do as professionals in the field.
Sending a letter that he doesn't recall or blacked out and knows nothing is
one thing (meaning his friend), but testifying under oath is a whole
different kettle of fish.
Getting testimony under oath is, to me, a little more reliable...don't you
think? Hell, they can still vote the fucker in, if that's what they want.
But the goal is to get to the truth of the matter, or as close to it as
possible. It seems to me that many have already decided and are ready to
crown this guy King, er..., I mean SCJ.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:First of all, even in criminal cases you don't have to "prove" your case, all you have to do is demonstrate your case beyond a REASONABLE doubt (not "beyond the shadow of a doubt").
And what, pray tell, do you think the FBI is going to do about it 30 years later?
lol
There is ZERO way to prove that this ever took place.- SIX
So, how COULD this be demonstrated beyond a "reasonable" doubt? Well, the other highschooler who was in the room - Judge- could suddenly recover his memory and testify with Ford. The two other teenagers there ... did they see Ford run out of the house looking flustered? OR do none of them even remember a party like that ever took place?
There would be no physical evidence, just testimony. And it's unlikely that anything definitive will show up ... or in fact, anything at all ... but not impossible.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:
Let's face it. Up until recently, when false rape allegations were made, it has ruined lives of men who were targets of them, even if they were found Not Guilty. The tides seem to be turning on that these days though because only the most hard core Leftist Feminist blindly believes anyone who cries rape without knowing any of the facts, and there are quite a few women who are being charged for lying about this now. As they should be.
Six,
I'm trying to understand your post here because it seems you're making two opposing arguments:
1- That the law provides certain protections regarding rape charges and rightfully so...
2- and that women have taken advantage of said laws to make false claims
of rape against unsuspecting and innocent men
Correct me if I'm wrong. The lives of these innocent men have suffered
because of these false claims. And these claims are blindly believed to be
true, seemingly only by the left, and that consequently two trends have
arisen as a result:
a- namely, innocent men's lives are ruined
b- that these "false claimers" are being caught and punished
Well, that's a mighty bold and extremely general statement. Has there been
a recent rash of innocent men, who's lives have been ruined by false rape
allegations? Is there a movement on behalf of these men? Or, perhaps, a website that speaks as to their shame and ruin? Perhaps a #I'veBeenWronged!
Years ago, I heard of an organization of single fathers who formed a
support group and met every Wednesday at 7 p.m. They would discuss legal
ways to combat women who would use the system against them to abuse and
mistreat them as fathers. You mean something like that has been formed?
In other words, facts man. The very thing you mention in your post in your
response to Sigs and Keeks. Has such an organization been formed? Is there a
hashtag? Have there been reports of women being punished for false claims
and accusations? Just curious as to how you came to the conclusions you made.
SGG
Men don't get to create groups for any reason. They're labeled misogynists or incels if they do. So no, I can't say that I know of any groups for men who were wrongfully accused of rape. Can you think of a single man who would be crazy enough to put their name on that mailing list? They'd probably have some Antifa nutjobs dressed in all black break into their house and "bravely" kill him in his sleep.
Innocent men's lives are ruined. Just the allegation of rape is all it takes. Most colleges today will immediately remove the male from all of his classes and withdraw any scholarships he had. In the event that they backpedal on this at a later date, the damage had already been done. Not only with lost time, but because his name had been dragged through the mud.
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Has there been
a recent rash of innocent men, who's lives have been ruined by false rape
allegations?
How many would you consider a "rash"?
How many innocent men is a number you can live with?
Is this your answer?
Because this seems to be the popular opinion these days from the extreme left.
Here's a story of two men who were finally exonerated of a rape claim that happened while I was still in grammar school:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/05/07/convictions-vaca
ted-26-year-old-rape/588406002/
You know... I was going to take some time here to start drudging up a lot of stories for you to read regarding this, but I don't feel I have to.
You've got the internet. You can find them if you'd like. But I would think that these two men losing 26 of the best years of their life over a lie would be powerful enough to prove the point.
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How do you know she's making wild accusations?
How do you know she's not?
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Quote:The obvious reasons:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
How do you know she's making wild accusations?
How do you know she's not?
1) She is placing her entire reputation on the line when she has nothing to gain. And this ruin of her reputation will go on and on for the rest of her life. She could have said nothing.
2) She is risking death. There have been death threats. Those won't end after she testifies.
www.washingtonpost.com/local/christine-blasey-ford-wanted-to-flee-the-
us-to-avoid-brett-kavanaugh-now-she-may-testify-against-him/2018/09/22/db942340-bdb1-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html
For Kavanaugh, the situation is completely reversed:
1) He is placing his entire reputation on the line if he does NOT lie. He has every motive to lie.
2) If he lies and is believed, he receives a lifetime job on the Supreme Court. See Justice Clarence Thomas for how that works.
The political compromise: Ford is not believed and Kavanaugh is not confirmed to the Supreme Court. Kavanaugh goes back to his previous job and a new person, not Kavanaugh, gets the appointment to the Supreme Court. It is a win-win for both sides.
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Well, it seems that perhaps testimony from corroborating witnesses won't have to be taken, since it's happening in the press
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"Lifelong Friend" Of Kavanaugh Accuser Denies Attending Party Where Alleged Sexual Assault Occurred
A woman believed to have been one of five people at a party some 35 years ago where Christine Blasey Ford claims she was sexually assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh has become the fourth person to deny any recollection of the event.
In a Saturday night email to the Senate Judiciary Committee also received by several news outlets, Leland Ingham Keyser - a "longtime friend" of Blasey Ford said through her attorney:
"Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford," said Keyser's attorney Howard Walsh, who has been "engaged in the limited capacity" of corresponding with the committee on behalf of Keyser, according to Politico.
Kavanaugh and Mark Judge - the other teenager allegedly in the room during the alleged sexual assault - have both stated that they have no recollection of the incident, while a third man who Ford claims was at the party - Patrick J. Smyth, also denied any recollection of the event, telling the Judiciary Committee last week in a statement: "I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as 'PJ' who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post," Smyth wrote in his statement. "I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh."
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-22/lifelong-friend-kavanaugh-ac
cuser-denies-attending-party-where-alleged-sexual
So Dr Ford doesn't recall the year that this event took place or where, but has placed four people (Kavanaugh, Judge, Keyser, "PJ" Smyth) besides herself at the party.
At this point, all four deny that the party ever took place. Keyser denies even knowing Kavanaugh.
As I posted before, I believe that Ford believes she's telling the truth, but she may be mistaken. However, it's difficult to understand how someone could be so massively mistaken as to invent a traumatic event that never took place.
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Quote:Signym, you didn't mention that Trump picked Kavanaugh, when there were so many better possibilities, because he wrote that a President can't be subpoenaed and can't be charged with a crime. And Kavanaugh does not even want to talk about Trump pardoning himself. All three things will probably be heading to the Supreme Court and Trump wants as many justices as possible on his side when that happens.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So Dr Ford doesn't recall the year that this event took place or where, but has placed four people (Kavanaugh, Judge, Keyser, "PJ" Smyth) besides herself at the party.
At this point, all four deny that the party ever took place. Keyser denies even knowing Kavanaugh.
As I posted before, I believe that Ford believes she's telling the truth, but she may be mistaken. However, it's difficult to understand how someone could be so massively mistaken as to invent a traumatic event that never took place.
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
If Kavanaugh can't be confirmed because of an unproven incident in his sex life, how did Trump get elected because of his very proven sex life with thousands of incidences? Books have been written about Trump's sex life. He has gone on radio about it. Women have been paid to keep quiet. Trump has been sued about his sex life.
Trump wants to ram Kavanaugh onto the Supreme Court. Trump probably won't back down for a justice with a more distinguished record and less sex baggage, although there are no reasons, other than Trump's legal problems and sex life, why Trump should not change his mind about Kavanaugh.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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SECOND, this is a pointless point:
Quote:Unless Kavanaugh can convince four OTHER Justices to vote with him, his views on this topic are meaningless.
Signym, you didn't mention that Trump picked Kavanaugh, when there were so many better possibilities, because he wrote that a President can't be subpoenaed and can't be charged with a crime.
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Quote:Your point, Signym, has no point because you are arguing that there is no reason to think about Kavanaugh unless there are an additional four other justices who also do not have a judicial temperament in addition to the fact that they are lying about sexual assault of a 15-year-old 35 years ago: The Many Mysteries of Brett Kavanaugh’s Finances: "Who made the down payment on his house? How did he come up with $92,000 in country club fees?...
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Unless Kavanaugh can convince four OTHER Justices to vote with him, his views on this topic are meaningless.
www.bradford-delong.com/2018/09/why-would-anybody-sane-ever-ever-choos
e-brett-kavanaugh-over-amy-barrett.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Asia Argento, one of the leaders and largest faces of the #MeToo movement alongside Rose McGowan was caught a while back with photographic evidence of having sex with a minor, right before Anthony Bourdain killed himself. She had paid Bennett off several hundred thousand dollars after the incident.
Argento's laywer fired off a letter to him warning him not to talk about the incident.
http://www.tmz.com/2018/09/21/asia-argento-jimmy-bennett-tv-interview-
warning-slander-defamation-sexual-assault/
It seems that she's not a big fan of Rose McGowan's tweets on the incident either, giving McGowan 24 hours to remove a tweet stating that she knew about the sexual encounter.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/17/entertainment/asia-argento-rose-mcgowan
-demand/index.html
I think at the end of the day I'm going back to my old standby.
Rich people are fucking gross.
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Quote:How about my old standby? Do not hire people you don't trust for lifetime positions on the Supreme Court? No other recent Supreme Court nominee has come before the Senate with so many unanswered questions about his finances.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think at the end of the day I'm going back to my old standby.
Rich people are fucking gross.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
A number of the questions Whitehouse sent Kavanaugh dealt with the house he bought in tony Chevy Chase, Maryland, in 2006 for $1.225 million. Kavanaugh would have needed $245,000 in cash for the traditional 20 percent down payment on the house. But in 2005, when his nomination to the DC Circuit was pending, Kavanaugh reported a total net worth to the Senate of about $91,000, which reflected a mere $10,000 in the bank and $25,000 in credit card debt. According to his financial disclosure forms before and after the purchase of his house in 2006, Kavanaugh’s liquid assets and bank balances never totaled more than $65,000, and those balances didn’t decline after the purchase of the house.
Whitehouse wanted to know why. He wrote, “The value of assets reportedly maintained in your ‘Bank of America Accounts’ in the years before, during, and after this purchase never decreased, indicating that funds used to pay the down payment and secure this home did not come from these accounts. Did you receive financial assistance in order to purchase this home?”
In his responses, Kavanaugh didn’t answer the question.
www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/09/the-many-mysteries-of-brett-kavan
aughs-finances/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe you'd prefer to live in a predominantly Muslim country where they'll just chop a woman's head off if she were to make rape allegations?)
WTF? Do you read your own posts? I'm defending her right to speak and have the FBI investigate - why would I want her head chopped off? That's what you want. Taking tips from Siggy?
The stupid sh*t you post.
Yep, I keep pointing that out as well G.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
How do you know she's making wild accusations?
How do you know she's not?
I'm not the one making any wild @ss statements like you did, d*ckhead.
How do you know she's making wild accusations? You said it with certainty.
How do you know?? Or are you just making sh*t up?
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Originally posted by THG:
Yep, I keep pointing that out as well G.
The shear volume of them is remarkable!
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Yep, I keep pointing that out as well G.
The shear volume of them is remarkable!
I know right.
T
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Quote:You've never heard of McMartin Preschool? Fells Acres Day Care? Bernard Beran?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, it seems that perhaps testimony from corroborating witnesses won't have to be taken, since it's happening in the pressQuote:
"Lifelong Friend" Of Kavanaugh Accuser Denies Attending Party Where Alleged Sexual Assault Occurred
A woman believed to have been one of five people at a party some 35 years ago where Christine Blasey Ford claims she was sexually assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh has become the fourth person to deny any recollection of the event.
In a Saturday night email to the Senate Judiciary Committee also received by several news outlets, Leland Ingham Keyser - a "longtime friend" of Blasey Ford said through her attorney:
"Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford," said Keyser's attorney Howard Walsh, who has been "engaged in the limited capacity" of corresponding with the committee on behalf of Keyser, according to Politico.
Kavanaugh and Mark Judge - the other teenager allegedly in the room during the alleged sexual assault - have both stated that they have no recollection of the incident, while a third man who Ford claims was at the party - Patrick J. Smyth, also denied any recollection of the event, telling the Judiciary Committee last week in a statement: "I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as 'PJ' who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post," Smyth wrote in his statement. "I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh."
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-22/lifelong-friend-kavanaugh-ac
cuser-denies-attending-party-where-alleged-sexual
So Dr Ford doesn't recall the year that this event took place or where, but has placed four people (Kavanaugh, Judge, Keyser, "PJ" Smyth) besides herself at the party.
At this point, all four deny that the party ever took place. Keyser denies even knowing Kavanaugh.
As I posted before, I believe that Ford believes she's telling the truth, but she may be mistaken.
However, it's difficult to understand how someone could be so massively mistaken as to invent a traumatic event that never took place.
Or are you one of those believers in anything that a shrink says? I thought Wishi was the only one of those left here.
All of this Floozy-Ford story is a result of her Mental Deterioration Sessions with her shrink, decades after the imagined incident. It exists only in her mind, and only after frothing from her shrink. Nobody else recalls what she now imagines, and even she didn't recall anything for decades. She needs to blame somebody for her sorry state of incompetence, and it cannot be a result of her Ultra-Libtard Socialist Feminist Activism, so guess who she needs to fabricate blame against?
Perhaps the only truthful thing she rememberfies is drinking alcohol at age 15 at a stranger's house.
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Crazy, angry delusional victims. This place has it's share. It would surprise me to find out our local trolls aren't complicit in harassing people online.
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Crazy, angry delusional victims. This place has it's share. It would surprise me to find out our local trolls aren't complicit in harassing people online.
T
Spare me.
You actively engage in harassing people online every day.
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Quote:OMG, no shit.
Crazy, angry delusional victims. This place has it's share. It would surprise me to find out our local trolls aren't complicit in harassing people online. -CRAZY DELUSIONAL THUGR
Spare me.
You actively engage in harassing people online every day.- SIX
I have never seen anyone with less insight than THUGR. He constantly accuses people of doing exactly what HE does, and he never notices!
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Not doing a proper investigation iz going to be another collosal mistake by the GoP. McConnel haz the power to push Kavenaugh thru So he will.
Then wut do you think Ford will be forst to do?
She will file a complaint in Maryland, wich haz no time limit on this kind uv crime.
So the GoP will hav the distinction uv having a Supreme Court Justis under inditement for attemted rape. & likely more charjez will stem from the investigation.
Evry time i see Grassleys stoopid smirking fase on TV my hand goez into slap mode. Pleez sumbudy slap him so i dont haf to!
MaN, this smart fone typing iz a pain inthe ass
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Kavenaugh the drunk teen did a bad thing. Kavenaugh the SC nominee shoud hav owned up to it & sed 'I wuz 15 & drunk, so not the wizest animal in the forest'. But insted he haz prooven that hiz jujment haz nevr improovd.
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