This is Why Trump is a SCUMBAG!
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It is as if you have never heard of states such as Texas. Unlike the Federal government, the states have American interests that don't change arbitrarily with each new President. For example of arbitrary: When Bush was President, he had a plan to end Social Security. Obama had a different plan because he had affection for FDR's original plan. Bush was disaffected because he was following Herbert Hoover, who hated Social Security as a step toward Communism. What is the actual "America's Interest" in Social Security? FDR or Hoover? - SECOND
I don't believe there has been a real nationwide "American Interest"... - SECOND
Then please, don't ever reference it again! Ever! The minute you start yapping about "American interests" just give yourself a little mental zap, and zip your fucking lip (or, fingers as it were) m'kay? - SIGNY
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Signym, I guess you have decided to have amnesia. It was you who once upon a time talked about an American Interest. You wanted to discuss it, decide what it should be. I can see you don't live in America. You go talk to different Texans and you get completely contradictory interests. It is mathematically impossible to get a decision about which way to go, what the 50% plus 1 majority wants. There will be a dozen different ways, and not even 20% for any of them. The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I can do as I please. For those people that don't have clear goals, America can be a nightmare where they are always struggling. And then they die.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I don't believe there has been a real nationwide "American Interest"... - SECOND
Then please, don't ever reference it again! Ever! The minute you start yapping about "American interests" just give yourself a little mental zap, and zip your fucking lip (or, fingers as it were) m'kay? - SIGNY
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Donald Trump Is a Pathological Liar
I would like to take this opportunity to remind you that everything Donald Trump says should be treated as a lie until proven otherwise.
This is not a joke. At this point, anyone who makes even occasional exceptions to this rule is wilfully being a chump.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/07/donald-trump-is-a-pathological-
liar/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Signym, when you write using the words "ours" or "America's interests" there is nobody at fff.net that believes, except maybe 1kiki logging in from a desk near yours somewhere East of Moscow and maybe that dumbass, white-trash, whiner/hick/alcoholic 6ixStringJack, that you are thinking of anything but Russia's interests. Except Russia does not have any interests. It is Putin that has interests. Stalin had interests. Khrushchev had interests. Russia's interests change whenever the top man changes. In America, that is not how it works, but Trump is trying to change that. There are 333,000,000 different interests. When you throw them all together, America talks of "America's interest", but it is really hundreds of millions, not at all like Russia. And especially not at all like Trump thinks America's interests should be identical to Trump's interests. That is the strong man system, the Russian system, the Chinese system, the North Korean system.
Because there are 333,000,000 interests in America, they don't want Trump to throw away all those alliances with the UK, Canada, Nato, Europe, etc. that millions of Americans made decades before Trump came along and decided he would remake everything as he pleased. And they don't want all those interests suddenly replaced by Putin's interests for Russia. What is so special about Russia that it should outweigh the entire rest of the world?
Russia is a crappy country poorly governed. Huge area, 144 million population, but economic activity less than Texas, where I am from. If you want to bring up Russia's nukes and rockets, Texas builds all American bombs at Pantex, in the Texas Panhandle. Texas launches rockets. Builds them, too. Has a manned space program. Texas produces more oil and natural gas than Russia.
If Trump wants to shove up the ass of all Americans a new American interest replacing all previous ones, he should make it Texas, not Russia.
I second second. Great line btw:
"there are 333,000,000 interests in America"
I always felt SIGNYM hounded us with "What are America's Interests?" because it was a directive from HQ. "Agent SIGNYM, you are to find out what their interests are so we can exploit them. Go now and do the shiny."
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Wuns ugen Trump, hiz administration and supporterz hav a problem with the word 'clear'.
This time its the derivativ word 'clarify'.
He sed 'woud' during hiz pants down groveling next to Putin during the Helsinky press conferens, then a day later attempting to douse the firestorm he created, stated that he needed to clarify and ment 'woudnt'. (I'm sure you alredy no the detailz uv the main story, so I'm only tokking about the misuse uv the word here)
Saying you ment the oppozit iz not clarifying, it iz reversing, doing a 180, correcting, contradicting. To clarify iz to explain further or reword a statement that wuz ambiguous, uninformativ, missing key information, etc.
Even real reporterz are getting it rong, not just politicianz and Fox propagandists.
Clarify Example:
Trump: "He sed to turn over the nuke codez."
Pence: "WUT DO YOU MEAN, GODAMIT?! F&*%ING CLARIFY FOR ME!"
Trump: "Putin told me to giv him the launch codez for America'z entire nuclear arsenal or he will leak the video uv me having sex with 10 yir oldz from 1987."
Pence: "Are you going to do it?"
Trump: "Uv course, dummy!"
Pence: "Alrity then. Wuts for lunch?"
And to put a further tangle in this particular string uv liez, he later turned hiz 180 into a 360 with tweets pushing hiz wich hunt/fake newz/deep state/no collusion fantasy.
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Trump is a sad, embarrassing wreck of a man
America’s child president had a play date with a KGB alumnus, who surely enjoyed providing day care. It was a useful, because illuminating, event: Now we shall see how many Republicans retain a capacity for embarrassment.
Precisely what did President Trump say about the diametrically opposed statements by U.S. intelligence agencies (and the Senate Intelligence Committee) and by Putin concerning Russia and the 2016 U.S. elections? Precision is not part of Trump’s repertoire so it is usually difficult to sift meanings from Trump’s words. But in Helsinki he was, for him, crystal clear about feeling no allegiance to the intelligence institutions that work at his direction and under leaders he chose.
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats and others might believe that they must stay in their positions lest there be no adult supervision of the Oval playpen. This is a serious worry, but so is this: Can those people do their jobs for someone who has neither respect nor loyalty for them?
We shall learn from special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation whether in 2016 there was collusion with Russia by members of the Trump campaign. The world, however, saw in Helsinki something more grave — ongoing collusion between Trump and Russia. The collusion is in what Trump says (refusing to back the United States’ intelligence agencies) and in what evidently went unsaid (such as: Putin ought to stop disrupting Ukraine, downing civilian airliners, attempting to assassinate people abroad using poisons, and so on, and on).
Americans elected a president who — this is a safe surmise — knew that he had more to fear from making his tax returns public than from keeping them secret. The most innocent inference is that his tax returns reveal that he has always lied about his wealth. A more ominous explanation might be that his tax returns demonstrate his incompetence as a businessman tumbling into unsavory financial dependencies on Russians. A still more sinister explanation might be that the Russians have something else, something worse, to keep him compliant.
The explanation is in doubt; what needs to be explained — his compliance — is not. Granted, Trump has a weak man’s banal fascination with strong men whose disdain for him is evidently unimaginable to him. And, yes, he only perfunctorily pretends to have priorities beyond personal aggrandizement. But just as astronomers inferred, from anomalies in the orbits of the planet Uranus, the existence of Neptune before actually seeing it, Mueller might infer, and then find, still-hidden sources of the behavior of this sad, embarrassing wreck of a man.
More at www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-sad-embarrassing-wreck-of-a-man/2
018/07/17/d06de8ea-89e8-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html?utm_term=.cfd843c5bada
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Well, fortunately I was busy yesterday and so I had to let this marinate for a while. Now that my aching back is keeping me from sleep (too much weed-digging I guess) I guess I'll answer this now ...
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Signym, I guess you have decided to have amnesia. It was you who once upon a time talked about an American Interest. You wanted to discuss it, decide what it should be. I can see you don't live in America. You go talk to different Texans and you get completely contradictory interests. It is mathematically impossible to get a decision about which way to go, what the 50% plus 1 majority wants. There will be a dozen different ways, and not even 20% for any of them. The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I can do as I please. For those people that don't have clear goals, America can be a nightmare where they are always struggling. And then they die.
So, SECOND, let me summarize for you!
The America that YOU want is an America that never recognizes common goals. An America where the inhabitants spend a lot of time fighting each other. Because a fractured America is perfect for you, since YOU get to exploit a lot of people!
That is the CLEAREST demonstration of the elite's POV ever posted on this site: A society based on every man for himself and God against all allows you to be predatory. All of your "virtue signaling" about the poor illegal alien, the poor poor, the poor internationalist was just that ... so much virtue signaling to cover up your entirely rapacious view of your fellow Americans and your completely disloyal view of America.
And, of course, there are people who are so stupid as to believe that your post represents "freedom". They post things like
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I second second. Great line btw: "there are 333,000,000 interests in America"
So here's a hint: There are NOT 333,000,000 interests in America, and I'm going to "unpack" your various statements to show how you've duped people into believing that you have THEIR interests at heart when in reality you hate most Americans and, really, only want to extract as much money as possible from them.
Quote:LIBEL, trolling. Meant to diminish my argument without ever addressing its point.
Signym, when you write using the words "ours" or "America's interests" there is nobody at fff.net that believes, except maybe 1kiki logging in from a desk near yours somewhere East of Moscow and maybe that dumbass, white-trash, whiner/hick/alcoholic 6ixStringJack, that you are thinking of anything but Russia's interests.
Quote:What is "Russia"? What is "America"? Each is a nation-state of people bound by a common set of laws and policies. If you're saying that "the people" of each nation have "no interest" in their own national laws and policies, then you're whack-a-doodle, and anyone who buys into your (self-serving) POV is equally whack-a-doodle.
Except Russia does not have any interests. It is Putin that has interests. Stalin had interests. Khrushchev had interests. Russia's interests change whenever the top man changes.
Quote:In America, that's not how it works either, but YOU'RE trying to change all that; by promoting the idea that Americans have NOTHING in common and no interest in how our nation is run.
In America, that is not how it works
Quote:There are approximately three sets of interests: the vast majority of the people, the "national elite", and the "international elite".
There are 333,000,000 different interests.
Quote:Bull. I can predict with great accuracy what most men will have in their wallet. Similarly, I can predict what most people will agree is the
When you throw them all together, America talks of "America's interest", but it is really hundreds of millions
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Trump said that if Montenegro got aggressive with Russia, then World War III would break out because the US would be obligated to defend it, thus dragging the US into a major war with Russia.
What Trump misses is that the US doesn’t have to defend Montenegro if that country starts a fight, only if it’s attacked. NATO is a defensive treaty. If you start an unprovoked war, that’s your decision, and no one in NATO has to help you at all.
So even if Montenegrins were, as Trump said, “very aggressive people” — whatever the hell that means — the US wouldn’t have to lift a finger to help them.
The fact that Trump doesn’t seem to understand that is beyond disturbing. If this were his first day in office, maybe it would be understandable. But it’s not. Trump has been in office for a year and a half. He’s met with NATO allies as a group not once but twice — including spending two days straight talking to them just a week ago.
There is no reason why he shouldn’t have that down pat at this point.
More about what Trump said on FOX at www.vox.com/world/2018/7/18/17585984/trump-nato-montenegro-russia-carl
son
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Do Right, Be Right. :)
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