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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:21 AM

Quote:

We got TRUMP(JUNIOR)+RUSSIA+CONSPIRACY
No, you don't.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-national-charged-conspiracy-act
-agent-russian-federation-within-united-states



https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080761/download
Criminal Complaint

Manner and Means of the Conspiracy
b. BUTINA did establish contact with an American political operative in Moscow who thereafter would work with BUTINA in the United States

Overt Acts
a. On or about March 14, 2016, BUTINA emailed a U.S. person in an effort to develop, maintain and exploit a relationship in the furtherance of the conspiracy
c. On or about September 26, 2016, BUTINA emailed a U.S. person to organize an event (note: a prayer breakfast)


https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080766/download

7. U.S. Person 1 is a United States citizen and political operative. BUTINA established contact with U.S. Person 1 in Moscow in or around 2013. U.S. Person 1 worked with BUTINA to jointly arrange introductions to U.S. persons having influence in American politics, including an organization promoting gun rights.

* Further information about U.S. Person 1
U.S. Person 1 received an email from Butina soliciting constructive diplomacy. Butina also mentions a relationship with the gun rights organization, introductions to 'political party leaders' to foster 'informal diplomacy', with a deadline before the election and requesting a $125,000 budget. U.S. Person 1 replied with cautions, advice, and a list of political, media and business contacts.
There's also a lot of communication surrounding trying to bring a National Prayer Breakfast event together. The event was concluded with emailed thanks all around.

8. U.S. Person 2 is a United States citizen who was included among the participants in a series of email communications in 2016 and 2017 that reveal BUTINA's effort to arrange a series of dinners in the District of Columbia and New York City involving Russian Nationals and U.S. persons having influence in American politics. BUTINA told U.S. Person 2 that the RUSSIAN OFFICIAL was "very much impressed by you" and that "the Russian will support the efforts from our side". (These particular quotes are brought up multiple times, but they still only constitute two short phrases.)


* Further information about U.S. Person 2
U.S. Person 2 is an additional recipient of more than one Butina email where she passes along the already noted flattery, and promise of 'support. A few days later, Butina emailed U.S. Person 2 that she had gotten approval from her official, and that all that was needed was Putin's (or presumably a representative - "Putin's side") approval.
U.S. Person 1 and U.S. Person 2 received an email regarding organizing another dinner in D.C.
After the successful completion of the National Prayer Breakfast, Butina emailed U.S. Person 2 with thanks and a cryptic mention that Putin received 'the message' about U.S. Person 2's (?) (the group) initiative.
At no time is there an indication U.S. Person 2 responded directly to any of the estimated 5 or fewer emails.



U.S. Person 1's obsequious and yet self-important communication has the air of a consultant trying to drum up business. I would think it was Manafort, but the timeline looks off.

U.S. Person 2 could be Trump Jr, who appears to be a passive recipient in an email train.




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:27 AM

Monday, July 16, 2018 7:30 PM
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62480&mid=1
057271#1057271


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, speaking of delusional ...

Quote:

Top aides at the White House are peddling a remarkable excuse for President Donald Trump’s embarrassing performance at a press conference in Helsinki on Monday, where he sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over American intelligence officials on the question of whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The president, they tell Axios’s Jonathan Swan, is delusional..
Our "intelligence" officials are known proven liars who have been gunning for Trump since before the election. What did they think he was going to say.. . Yeah, I'm going to side with the officials who have lied in the past, who continue to lie about non-existent collusion, and who have maintained a pattern of extreme bias for Hillary and against me" ... ??? The only people who are delusional are people like Brennan, who I personally suspect of treason.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

You're Russian.

Why should we care what you say?






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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-national-charged-conspiracy-act
-agent-russian-federation-within-united-states





SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
Nice try, Comrade 1kiki, but no cigar.

Asked directly, Putin does not deny possessing “compromising material” on Trump. Yes, this is about the “pee tape.”

Putin did not say the tape doesn’t exist. Instead, he argued that he was not personally aware of Trump’s trip to Russia and also mentioned about businessmen: “Do you think that we try to collect compromising material on each and every single one of them?” No, just the important ones.

In the past, Trump has obsessed over the existence of compromising footage, saying “if they had it, it would have been out long ago.” Trump in office has served as the most Russia-sympathetic, NATO-skeptical, EU-hostile president since the end of World War II, and it clearly wouldn’t be in the interests of the Russian government to release anything that would make Trump look bad.

More at www.vox.com/2018/7/16/17576784/trump-putin-pee-tape

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:33 AM

RF

I'm curious what will go through your mind when you're proven wrong in court.

I wonder if your teeny, tiny head will explode.




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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:36 AM


Quote:

We got TRUMP(JUNIOR)+RUSSIA+CONSPIRACY
No, you don't.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-national-charged-conspiracy-act
-agent-russian-federation-within-united-states



https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080761/download
Criminal Complaint

Manner and Means of the Conspiracy
b. BUTINA did establish contact with an American political operative in Moscow who thereafter would work with BUTINA in the United States

Overt Acts
a. On or about March 14, 2016, BUTINA emailed a U.S. person in an effort to develop, maintain and exploit a relationship in the furtherance of the conspiracy
c. On or about September 26, 2016, BUTINA emailed a U.S. person to organize an event (note: a prayer breakfast)


https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080766/download

7. U.S. Person 1 is a United States citizen and political operative. BUTINA established contact with U.S. Person 1 in Moscow in or around 2013. U.S. Person 1 worked with BUTINA to jointly arrange introductions to U.S. persons having influence in American politics, including an organization promoting gun rights.

* Further information about U.S. Person 1
U.S. Person 1 received an email from Butina soliciting constructive diplomacy. Butina also mentions a relationship with the gun rights organization, introductions to 'political party leaders' to foster 'informal diplomacy', with a deadline before the election and requesting a $125,000 budget. U.S. Person 1 replied with cautions, advice, and a list of political, media and business contacts.
There's also a lot of communication surrounding trying to bring a National Prayer Breakfast event together. The event was concluded with emailed thanks all around.

8. U.S. Person 2 is a United States citizen who was included among the participants in a series of email communications in 2016 and 2017 that reveal BUTINA's effort to arrange a series of dinners in the District of Columbia and New York City involving Russian Nationals and U.S. persons having influence in American politics. BUTINA told U.S. Person 2 that the RUSSIAN OFFICIAL was "very much impressed by you" and that "the Russian will support the efforts from our side". (These particular quotes are brought up multiple times, but they still only constitute two short phrases.)


* Further information about U.S. Person 2
U.S. Person 2 is an additional recipient of more than one Butina email where she passes along the already noted flattery, and promise of 'support. A few days later, Butina emailed U.S. Person 2 that she had gotten approval from her official, and that all that was needed was Putin's (or presumably a representative - "Putin's side") approval.
U.S. Person 1 and U.S. Person 2 received an email regarding organizing another dinner in D.C.
After the successful completion of the National Prayer Breakfast, Butina emailed U.S. Person 2 with thanks and a cryptic mention that Putin received 'the message' about U.S. Person 2's (?) (the group) initiative.
At no time is there an indication U.S. Person 2 responded directly to any of the estimated 5 or fewer emails.



U.S. Person 1's obsequious and yet self-important communication has the air of a consultant trying to drum up business. I would think it was Manafort, but the timeline looks off. I can't at all explain the request for a $125,000 'budget'.

U.S. Person 2 could be Trump Jr, who appears to be a passive recipient in an email train.




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:35 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
RF

I'm curious what will go through your mind when you're proven wrong in court.

I wonder if your teeny, tiny head will explode.


Likewise, comrade.

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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:41 AM

Look! A Republican who puts country above party! Wow! I wasn't sure there were any left!

Southeast Ohio Republican Party leader resigns over Trump-Putin meeting
https://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2018/07/southeast_ohio_republ
ican_part.html

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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Look! A Republican who puts country above party! Wow! I wasn't sure there were any left!

Southeast Ohio Republican Party leader resigns over Trump-Putin meeting
https://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2018/07/southeast_ohio_republ
ican_part.html



Drain that swamp baby.

Another one bites the dust.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:43 AM

Hillary Clinton: 'Now we know' which team Trump plays for
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/397309-hillary-clinton-now-
we-know-which-team-trump-plays-for


Hillary Clinton said “now we know” what team President Trump plays for, following his joint press conference Monday with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Clinton had asked Trump in a Sunday tweet "which team he plays for."

After the Trump-Putin summit in Helsinki, Clinton said she had her answer.

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Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:44 AM

Good to know that 1kiki will defend Trump, even when the GOP would rather not. They hope Helsinki will soon be forgotten. I believe it will, except not by me:

Newt Gingrich @newtgingrich — President Trump must clarify his statements in Helsinki on our intelligence system and Putin. It is the most serious mistake of his presidency and must be corrected—-immediately.

Michael Anton — a diehard Trump supporter who worked at the White House until recently — cancelled his appearance on CNN because he said he couldn’t defend Trump.

Conservative journalist Byron York on Fox: “Putin wasn’t taking the side of the US intelligence service. That’s a significant mistake.”

Sen. John McCain: “One of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory.”

Sen. Bob Corker: “I did not think this was a good moment for our country.”

Sen. Jeff Flake: “This is shameful.”

Thomas Friedman: “Such behavior by an American president is so perverse, so contrary to American interests and values, that it leads to only one conclusion: Donald Trump is either an asset of Russian intelligence or really enjoys playing one on TV.”

Paul Ryan: “The president must appreciate that Russia is not our ally. There is no moral equivalence between the United States and Russia, which remains hostile to our most basic values and ideals.”

State Department: Nothing. The entire department went dark today.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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