This is Why Trump is a SCUMBAG!
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
TRUMP+RUSSIA+CONSPIRACY
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
We got TRUMP(JUNIOR)+RUSSIA+CONSPIRACY
The US Department of Justice today charged Maria Butina, a Russian citizen, with illegally acting as a secret Russian agent on US soil. She was allegedly trying to set up a communications backchannel between the Russian government and US politicians.
Butina’s planned communication backchannel “could be used to penetrate the US national decision-making apparatus to advance the agenda of the Russian federation,” the 17-page affidavit (pdf) says. www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080766/download
The document describes how Butina was directed by a senior Russian official and was in close contact with two US citizens, as she arranged meetings and dinners with members of an unnamed gun rights organization—almost certainly the National Rifle Association. The description of the senior Russian official directing Butina closely matches the profile of Alexander Torshin, a Russian deputy Central Bank chief.
Torshin, who has been sanctioned by the US Treasury Department, is a lifetime NRA member and shared a table with Donald Trump Jr. at the organization’s 2016 convention. In November 2016, he tweeted that he and Butina were the only Russian lifetime NRA members that he knew.
More at https://qz.com/1329272
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Whatever.
You need three things to support your endless claims. All three things have to be in the same place at the same time. There are three things. Do you think you can remember all three things? Can you hold as many as three things in your mind at the same time?
TRUMP+RUSSIA+CONSPIRACY
Otherwise, you're babbling like an idiot. Oh wait! You ARE an idiot!
Right, because "whatever" is the argument a genius makes. You embarrass yourself.
BTW - do you know what Mueller has?
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There is nothing illegal about "back channel" communications between top government officials of different nations. Obama had his own back channel to Russia, and also one with Iran, so WTF???
I would EXPECT that our President, no matter who he or she is, of whatever party, would have non-public lines of communication open to MANY world leaders... in China, Germany, Russia, etc. It's an unsafe world, and would be only more unsafe if significant miscommunication were to occur/ be allowed to persist.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Signym, Trump's staff don't agree with your twisted and silly notions. White House aides want you to believe the president stands with Putin because he doesn’t understand what’s going on.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There is nothing illegal about "back channel" communications between top government officials of different nations. Obama had his own back channel to Russia, and also one with Iran. WTF???
I would EXPECT that our President, no matter who he or she is, of whatever party, would have non-public lines of communication open to MANY world leaders... in China, Germany, Russia, etc. It's an unsafe world, and would be only more unsafe if significant miscommunication were to occur/ be allowed to persist.
Top aides at the White House are peddling a remarkable excuse for President Donald Trump’s embarrassing performance at a press conference in Helsinki on Monday, where he sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over American intelligence officials on the question of whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election.
The president, they tell Axios’s Jonathan Swan, is delusional:
A number of people who’ve discussed election meddling with Trump, including current senior administration officials, say his brain can’t process that collusion and cyberattacks are two different things, Swan emails.
Trump seems constitutionally incapable of taking anything Mueller finds seriously.
He views the entire exercise as a “witch hunt” cooked up by Democrats and Deep State conspirators to underline his election win.
Ego prevents him acknowledging the possibility that any external action could have interfered with his glorious victory.
The handful of White House staff Swan has privately communicated with since today’s press conference are not proud of the man they work for. But he doesn’t expect any to resign.
More at www.axios.com/trump-putin-russia-helsinki-congress-intelligence-06a4c2
1e-59e5-419e-9f70-e88018c87bd2.html
Signym, you wanted Trump to be a "loose cannon" -- an unpredictable or uncontrolled person. That crashing sound isn't a cannon smashing a wooden sailing ship's hull. It is Trump's brain crashing around inside his numb skull.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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So, speaking of delusional ...
Quote:Our "intelligence" officials are known proven liars who have been gunning for Trump since before the election. What did they think he was going to say.. . Yeah, I'm going to side with the officials who have lied in the past, who continue to lie about non-existent collusion, and who have maintained a pattern of extreme bias for Hillary and against me" ... ??? The only people who are delusional are people like Brennan, who I personally suspect of treason.
Top aides at the White House are peddling a remarkable excuse for President Donald Trump’s embarrassing performance at a press conference in Helsinki on Monday, where he sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over American intelligence officials on the question of whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The president, they tell Axios’s Jonathan Swan, is delusional..
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Rather than speculating about what we don’t know about Trump and Russia, it’s worth stepping back to see how much we do know.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, speaking of delusional ...Quote:Our "intelligence" officials are known proven liars who have been gunning for Trump since before the election. What did they think he was going to say.. . Yeah, I'm going to side with the officials who have lied in the past, who continue to lie about non-existent collusion, and who have maintained a pattern of extreme bias for Hillary and against me" ... ??? The only people who are delusional are people like Brennan, who I personally suspect of treason.
Top aides at the White House are peddling a remarkable excuse for President Donald Trump’s embarrassing performance at a press conference in Helsinki on Monday, where he sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over American intelligence officials on the question of whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The president, they tell Axios’s Jonathan Swan, is delusional..
We know that Russia orchestrated a massive theft of information from the Democratic Party and the Clinton campaign, and used that information to help Donald Trump win the election.
We know that Trump publicly asked Russia to do exactly what it did — to hack Clinton’s emails — and we know that Trump repeatedly praised Vladimir Putin, at considerable political cost, in the aftermath. We know that Trump associates, like Roger Stone, appeared to have advance warning of the release of the hacked emails.
We know that the willingness to cooperate with the Russians wasn’t an idiosyncratic musing of Trump’s, but suffused the top ranks of his campaign: Trump’s inner circle — including Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. — eagerly took a meeting with Russian operatives promising dirt on Clinton. And we know Trump himself dictated the statement lying about the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting.
We know, from Trump’s own testimony, that he fired the director of the FBI to end his investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election. We know that Trump has wanted to fire both his attorney general and his deputy attorney general because he feels they’ve failed to protect him from this investigation. Tellingly, the Trump administration has moved from arguing that the president did not obstruct justice to arguing that by definition, the president cannot obstruct justice.
We know in that in 2008, Donald Trump Jr. said of the Trump organization, “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” We know that in 2014, Eric Trump added, “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.” We know that from 2003 to 2017, “buyers connected to Russia or former Soviet republics made 86 all-cash sales — totaling nearly $109 million — at 10 Trump-branded properties in South Florida and New York City.”
We know that Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager, had ties to the Kremlin and was deeply in debt to Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch closely connected to Putin. We know Manafort was in communication with Deripaska’s team during the election, and that he asked, of his powerful position in Trump’s campaign, “How do we use [it] to get whole?”
We know that Russia’s efforts to help Trump went far beyond hacked emails — they included social media campaigns to inflame racial divisions on his behalf, armies of bots meant to elevate news stories helping him and hurting Clinton, and even efforts to compromise state voting machines.
We know that the Trump campaign interfered in the Republican National Committee’s drafting of its platform to soften the language on Russia and Ukraine. We know that Kushner sought a secret communications channel with Russians so the US government couldn’t hear their negotiations. We know that Trump has personally fought both his administration and his party to stop sanctions punishing Russia for electoral interference.
We know that there is no single issu
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Quote:You're Russian.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, speaking of delusional ...Quote:Our "intelligence" officials are known proven liars who have been gunning for Trump since before the election. What did they think he was going to say.. . Yeah, I'm going to side with the officials who have lied in the past, who continue to lie about non-existent collusion, and who have maintained a pattern of extreme bias for Hillary and against me" ... ??? The only people who are delusional are people like Brennan, who I personally suspect of treason.
Top aides at the White House are peddling a remarkable excuse for President Donald Trump’s embarrassing performance at a press conference in Helsinki on Monday, where he sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over American intelligence officials on the question of whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The president, they tell Axios’s Jonathan Swan, is delusional..
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
Why should we care what you say?
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If you work for Trump, quit now
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/quit-now-trump-staffers-save-y
our-souls/2018/07/16/6529cb3a-8920-11e8-85ae-511bc1146b0b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.08cded792e7b
Everyone who works for President Trump: Quit now. Save your souls. Save your honor, such as it is. Save your reputation, such as it remains. Russia attacked our democracy. Trump has demonstrated repeatedly, and did so again with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, that he doesn’t care and won’t defend his country.
If you work for this man and you call yourself a patriot, it is time for you to go.
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It’s Resignation Time
Trump’s performance in Helsinki was a disgrace. Any member of his national security team who sticks with him now is doing a disservice to America.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/after-helsinki-any-respons
ible-member-of-trumps-national-security-team-must-resign.html
Really, any member of Trump’s national security team who doesn’t resign immediately—or perhaps better, offer to testify about any incriminating information they might possess—is from this point on doing a disservice to the United States.
The moment that should have been a turning point for all Americans was when Trump was asked whom he believes on the question of whether Russia interfered with the 2016 election: Putin, who denies all involvement, or the U.S. intelligence community, which unanimously and firmly concludes otherwise.
Trump’s reply was, even by his standards, astonishing. First, he tried to skirt the issue, asking what happened to the Democratic National Committee’s computer servers, what happened to Hillary Clinton’s 33,000 emails, why isn’t the FBI looking into those mysteries. Then he said this: “President Putin said it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it should be … I will tell you, President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial.”
So there you have it. Asked to choose between the verbal assurances of the Russian president (a former KGB officer who has lied about all offensive cyberoperations against the West) and the detailed reports of U.S. intelligence agencies (as well as the repeated testimony of his own entire national security team), Trump chose the Russian spy.
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