Civility
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I guess I haven't been keeping up that well. No loss. I have better uses for my time.
But if you can manage to have a productive, civil discussion with certain people here, I will think of you as a miracle worker.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Quote:This may be why so many posters here ROUTINELY put words in my mouth, claiming that I want things that I really don't, or promote policies that I in fact disagree with, or that I'm something that I never have been.
Libertarian? Conservative? Classic Liberal? Leftivists don’t just believe you’re a bad person — they WANT to believe it
I’m not a social media person, but a few days ago, I posted my very first comment on Instagram, in response to a woman whose site I had read for years. Enraged by the border story, she had just posted an Instagram ordering those who didn’t see the world her way to take a hike.
It puzzled me at first. Hers is not a political site – far from it. And though she claimed she didn’t care about likes, I know that she has struggled for years with the classic insecurity bloggers often face when confronted with the popularity contest that is the Internet. She was posting in order to vent — and to let others know that she was, unlike half the country, kind, good-hearted and moral.
She was, in essence, although genuinely (and understandably) angered by the idea of children in distress, virtue signaling… another common symptom found on Internetitis.
“Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, jabronis!” she wrote. (I had to look that one up; it’s cool kid slang for ignorant.)
Was she kicking non-leftists — conservatives, libertarians and classic liberals — off her Instagram? I decided to ask.
We’ve had lunch together years ago (a prelude to an interview I did with her). When her first child was born, I sent her a gift, and when her husband started a small business, I supported their young, gutsy entrepreneurial spirit by purchasing some merchandise.
She doesn’t “know” me, but she should know me well enough to see that I am not the “monster” she thinks all those not on the left to be.
I posted. My comment was polite, respectful and pointed out that she might not have the whole story. (Although I shouldn’t have to say this, the audio we all heard broke my heart and angered me as well. No compassionate human being alive can be immune to the sounds of a child in distress. But that wasn’t my point in my comment. My point, in response to her post, is that she was vilifying people outright based on a very narrow version of that story… and that furthering the divide doesn’t exactly engender progress towards solutions.)
You can imagine what happened next: All remnants of “inclusiveness” and “LoveTrumpsHate” went out the window. Other commenters railed at me, calling me self-righteous, IGNORANT, and other names. And the blogger herself showed me the door: I wasn’t good enough for her. In the face of my terribleness, she told the crowd, she would “draw the line.”
She was superior to me. Period.
It wasn’t a great shock. These are the same types of people who shunned conservative family members the Thanksgiving after Donald Trump won the election. In the extreme, this is the same type who opened fire on a group of Republican Congressmen (a story the media quickly dropped, which would not have happened if they’d been Democrats). The same type who openly wish horrible fates on the wife and child of the president.
I tried to post another comment, in response to some of the attacks.
It wouldn’t post. I’d been blocked. And demonized. For stating that she might not have the whole story, and that it might be good to listen to each other.
The lessons here:
1) The campaign to control people by keeping them in a [permanent] state of agitated, enraged crisis is working — really, really well;
2) The campaign to demonize the other side through such means truly is embroiling us in, as ethicist Dennis Prager has said for years, a (thus far non-violent) civil war; and, in short,
3)They WANT to believe we’re evil.
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Leftism, as Mr. Prager has stated for years, is the world’s fastest growing religion. It is a tribe. A belief system. An identity.
People like to belong to something. In the absence of traditional religion in the West, Leftism has fNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:From you, here is this forum? YES, I DO.
And you want civility? LOL!- F
Now THAT is the most ironic statement ever posted on FFF.netQuote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm not Trump. I'm not a Trump follower. I'm not a white racist. I'm not a "Russian troll"(!). I'm not a communist. I'm not ANYthing of those categories that you deem so frightful that they deserve to be blasted with both barrels. More importantly, I'm not DOING ANYTHING that deserves to be defended against. I'm merely posting MY OPINION, which seems to be too much "free speech" and "free thought" for some around here.
Nah, you're a troll who posts images of mutilated children. Worse than that, you post them over and over and then come up with some phony outrage to justify being a troll. And you post those images without any regard for the victim or their family and without any knowledge or real concern for how the person actually died. You really can't be more uncivil or a bigger pos troll than that.
Hey, you never did answer how you'd feel if it was your daughter in those images - how come?
Well put G, well put.
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Well put garbage.
You two, along with RF are constantly abusive to others, but especially to Signy. I'm pretty sure that RF is one of your alter-egos that allow you to be even more terrible than you usually are.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Rather than being upset by the FACT that we've tortured and killed people in their own nations, or trained and paid someone to do it for us ... GSTRING and THUGR object to PICTURES of our activities? As if "pictures" were the real problem, and not ignorance?
Still, GSTRING claims to have been part of "that movie". So if he isn't making a claim about something that never happened, what WAS his role in that south-of-the-border snuff film? Maybe his objection to the picture is that he recognized his own handiwork? So far, he's refused to answer that question, despite claiming direct experience.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Rather than being upset by the FACT that we've tortured and killed people in their own nations, or trained and paid someone to do it for us ... ]
You are never going to GET the irony of your own claptrap...
Blathering about how horrible people are (and have always been and will always be... barring the creation of a truly magic wand) and yet expecting people to get along enough to share EVERYTHING.
YOU CAN'T FIX PEOPLE.
I mean, you're proof!
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YOU CAN'T FIX PEOPLE.
I mean, you're proof!
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:No, dearie, I'm not blathering about how horrible "people" are ... that kind of bias is YOUR specialty ... I'm just expressing how horrible I think YOU are. I'm pretty specific about where I direct criticism.
Rather than being upset by the FACT that we've tortured and killed people in their own nations, or trained and paid someone to do it for us ... - SIGNY
You are never going to GET the irony of your own claptrap... Blathering about how horrible people
Quote:Once again, your brain seems to have gotten stuck. YOU'RE the person who thinks we should "share EVERYTHING", particularly if we are sharing with a few million of our closest illegal alien buddies. Did you not read what's posted with my avatar? Or did you fail to understand it?
... and yet expecting people to get along enough to share EVERYTHING. - WISHY
If I quote myself here, will that help? Here it is
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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them
Maybe you should try reading with comprehension before you post; it might help.
ETA: I can do this all day long, WISHY. But if you should ever decide that civility is your better option, just let me know.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:From an old school perspective, I have no idea how you keep the CapsLock off.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:From you, here is this forum? YES, I DO.
And you want civility? LOL!- F
I'm not Trump. I'm not a Trump follower. I'm not a white racist. I'm not a "Russian troll"(!). I'm not a communist. I'm not ANYthing of those categories that you deem so frightful that they deserve to be blasted with both barrels. More importantly, I'm not DOING ANYTHING that deserves to be defended against. I'm merely posting MY OPINION, which seems to be too much "free speech" and "free thought" for some around here.
You see people, groups and activities and you become so agitated that you turn around and blast people here?? You've conflated a discussion board with real life, and you seem to think that trolling people who are NOT YOUR ENEMIES is some sort of effective political action?Quote:The average rabid cult that you refer to is, as you said, imaginary. I know quite a few Trump voters, even here in deep blue southern CA, and they are overwhelmingly well-educated, nonwhite immigrants, and at least half of them are women. Maybe if I lived someplace else I'd get a different view of the people that you imagine that you're talking about, but so far your statements and my experience don't square up.
Now, imagine your average rabid cult following Donald supporter hearing things like that over and over from your President...
So instead of responding to IMAGINARY ENEMIES, why don't you respond to the real people who are actually posting here? READ what they post, and stop imputing motives to them that they don't have.Quote:The press is critical of Trump, but one thing it is NOT is "free", it is owned by giant transnationals and is more or less hostage to their interests. Also, it certainly isn't unbiased. The so-called "free press" gave Obama and Hillary giant free passes on all of their corrupt, imperialistic, Constitution-shredding behaviors. It's too bad that we can't count on the socalled "free press" to do it's job of giving us the news about important events and trends.
Also keep in mind, Donald is attacking freedom of the press for not one thing more than to cover up his mistakes and misdoings.
I'm all up for discussion; I want to know what you think and why, but the truly rabid, hate-filled people that I've experienced lately are all here - people who claim to be liberals who are deeply concerned about "freedom".
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Apparently GSTRING votes against civility, too: He just can't stop himself from attacking, even in a thread about civility.
You think me strongly disapproving of you posting images of mutilated children is an attack? How so?
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Oh, I still wonder what GSTRING's role was in that south-of-the-border movie that apparently involved torture. He CLAIMED to have had a part in it. I wonder how much "civility" was involved.
Hey you edited out where you said I was a torturer! You have a conscience in there some where?
The "movie?" Hehehe... It's amusing how far off you are - just shows the lies you will even tell yourself. What I was referring to was the Russia Invades Ukraine thread. My point was I'd seen so much of your lying and deflections and denials that I didn't need to go down that path again. I know who you are and why you post, "I've seen the movie."
You keep embarrassing yourself.
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