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"Apparently she is basing her theory upon some TV Show set in Colorado. Our Military Strategy has a preference of not fighting War on our own soil - which would lead to certain loss. Tell me, which Foreign Aggitators or Aggressors, or Oceans, border Colorado?"
What the fuck are you trying to say? That Colorado doesn't have a shit-ton of military bases? That all of the US military is stationed oversees? That the constitution doesn't specify the military is for the common defense?
My point, (which you seem to be unable to comprehend) is that the military is ALREADY a large part of the US job-related economy.
If you were to gather all of the military bases and installations in one single place in the US, it would be a city as large as Dallas, exclusively populated by military personnel. Just to reiterate, that Dallas-sized city would be ONLY military personnel. There would be no waitresses, meter-readers, cashiers or stockboys. There would be no Walmarts, no grocery stores, no Chevrons. No landlords or landscapers. It would be a city the size of Dallas, with nobody but the military.
That's how big the military is as an employer.
And just to make the point further, the US military is not the single largest employer in the US - it's the single largest employer in the world.
MarketWatch
https://www.marketwatch.com › The Margin
Jun 17, 2015 - At 3.2 million strong, the U.S. military is the largest employer in the world
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
My point, (which you seem to be unable to comprehend) is that the military is ALREADY a large part of the US job-related economy.
Yes. This is a problem.
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And just to make the point further, the US military is not the single largest employer in the US - it's the single largest employer in the world.
This, if it id indeed true (and I have no real reason to doubt that it is), is a terrifying thought.
I see no benefit to increasing that power.
I don't understand why you think the other military stuff that we're already doing would decrease at all by enacting all of these things you're talking about. Name one thing the US Government has ever done that would give you that idea.
If this idea were to gain traction in political and social circles, I'm sure that we'd be told that decreasing overseas military expenditures and lives would be decreased as a huge selling point to start doing this, but in a short period of time that wouldn't happen at all. If anything, the increase in numbers, power and money in the military would only serve to increase its reach.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Mebbe you should let your fellow Libtard cretins know Obama is no longer Preezy.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:I'd take you a little more seriously if you realized that Obama is no longer president. You and people of you ilk, constantly defend Trump (omg) by blaming someone who's out of work and has zero effect on your life. "If only you'd criticized John Tyler like this..." Big fucking transparent hole in your head.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You whine, bitch, and moan endlessly about Trump. I'd take it a lot more seriously if you didn't have such a big fucking double standard/ hole in your head.
After 8 years of the disastrous Obamanomics being blamed on Bush, now MSM is claiming Trump's unleashed Economy is really Obama's Economy. And they seem to expect non-Libtards to fall for that Fairy Tale.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Prove it.
The shear number of Trump's lies are so staggering that you would make money in Vegas if you take 1 to 9 odds he's lying every time he speaks.
HINT: You can't.
Eh? I have always suspected that you are such a believer in the use of lying that long ago you stopped considering it a bad thing. I suspect that you - just like Trump - find truth telling to be a sign of weakness. "You'll never get anywhere telling the truth!"
Maybe you are unable to penetrate his NY style of speaking and are enraptured every time he makes a speech?
Maybe you are just a fan of Russia and love to see him create disruption? I think I know the truth.
How about I post his lies every day for the next week? How about just the last 4 days?
"Sir, should you get a nobel prize?"
"Everyone thinks I should..."
Not really.
"Sadly, I was forced to cancel the summit..."
He wasn't forced.
"Not surprisingly, the GREAT Men & Women of the FBI are starting to speak out against Comey, McCabe and all of the political corruption and poor leadership found within the top ranks of the FBI. Comey was a terrible and corrupt leader who inflicted great pain on the FBI! "
They are? Who? Cites for anything in that statement? 2, 3, 5 lies in that one tweet?
"Clapper has now admitted that there was Spying in my campaign. Large dollars were paid to the Spy, far beyond normal. Starting to look like one of the biggest political scandals in U.S. history. SPYGATE - a terrible thing!"
No he didn't. "largest scandals in US History?" Not so much.
"WITCH HUNT!" that lie never gets old.
"Everybody is with Tomi Lahren, a truly outstanding and respected young woman! "
No.
"John Brennan is panicking. He has disgraced himself, he has disgraced the Country, he has disgraced the entire Intelligence Community. He is the one man who is largely responsible for the destruction of American’s faith in the Intelligence Community..."
No, that would be you.
That's just the last 4 days - there are more in that time fame, just why bother? You will defend *cough* lie about *cough* his chaos style as long as he's in office.
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GSTRING, here's the thing: A "lie" is when people say something that they know to be untrue. In order to know whether someone is lying, you have to know what THEY think is true and what THEY think is false. Since we can't crawl into Trump's mind, we don't know what HE thinks is fact and what isn't. We would need a statement of intent ...Oh, I just said that to get the press/ Democrats/ deep state off my back.
It was the same argument with GWB and Iraq's so-called WMD. I could demonstrate morning, noon, and night that GWB was wrong, wrong, wrong. But, was he lying? I don't know. I'm not sure that HE had the mental capacity to sustain a lie over such a long term. Maybe everyone else ... Cheney, Rice, Tenet, Rumsfeld ... maybe THEY lied to GWB and he believed them. I was left with the choice that either GWB lied, or else he was fatally incompetent. (Fatal for our troops and for a huge number of Iraqis, that is.) But in the end, I don't think I could "prove" that he lied unless someone published a formerly secret diary where GWB admitted to lying.
So I'm not about to try and prove that Trump "lied" or "didn't lie" with each his statements. Instead, we can discuss whether or not he was right or wrong. Some of his statements that YOU deem to be a "lie" I think were actually correct.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:You DO realize that the Great Depression (II) began well in Bush's term and resulted from a series of bad decisions WHICH INCLUDED BUSH'S, right?
After 8 years of the disastrous Obamanomics being blamed on Bush
Quote:You yourself said that a President can collapse an economy but improvements take YEARS to take hold, correct? Well, it took almost 16 years of Clinton's and GWB's economic/fiscal policies and The Fed's financial policies to collapse the financial system, so why wouldn't it take almost that long to pump it back up again? About 8 years-worth? Because one year seems to be far too short a time to substantially change ANY economy.
, now MSM is claiming Trump's unleashed Economy is really Obama's Economy.
BTW...
1) I wouldn't be claiming too loudly that "the economy" is on the mend. After 8+ years of The Fed flooding the financial system with (even more) funny-money, SOME of it finally trickled down to the masses and is showing up in higher consumption, but our manufacturing has not recovered. Again, it would take years ... more than a decade ... to even begin to make a significant (30%) improvement in that direction.
2) It's all built on The Fed blowing bubbles with funny-money anyway; all of the factors that led to the first collapse are in place to create a second one. This is not Trump's doing, it's The Fed's. And The Fed doesn't answer to the President ... it's just a group pf private bankers making policy on their own behalf.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:I would have to know the terms of non-combat service. For example, do they live "on base"? Does the government house, feed, and clothe them? Are they under a non-civilian form of justice?
btw, many countries with COMPULSORY service offer civilian, non-combat service alternatives, including Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark.
And even if there are military-style non-combat forms of service in other nations, I'm not sure its a good idea for us, JUST BECAUSE our military is the largest employer in the world and just because it already represents and huge concentration of sociopath/ parasite-attracting money and power. Our government is very, very corrupt; and until that corruption is broken the thought of potentially expanding the military's scope doesn't seem like a good choice to me.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Which statements that CC/G/pizmobeach deems a lie do you consider to be factually inaccurate?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
GSTRING, here's the thing: A "lie" is when people say something that they know to be untrue. In order to know whether someone is lying, you have to know what THEY think is true and what THEY think is false. Since we can't crawl into Trump's mind, we don't know what HE thinks is fact and what isn't. We would need a statement of intent ...Oh, I just said that to get the press/ Democrats/ deep state off my back.
It was the same argument with GWB and Iraq's so-called WMD. I could demonstrate morning, noon, and night that GWB was wrong, wrong, wrong. But, was he lying? I don't know. I'm not sure that HE had the mental capacity to sustain a lie over such a long term. Maybe everyone else ... Cheney, Rice, Tenet, Rumsfeld ... maybe THEY lied to GWB and he believed them. I was left with the choice that either GWB lied, or else he was fatally incompetent. (Fatal for our troops and for a huge number of Iraqis, that is.) But in the end, I don't think I could "prove" that he lied unless someone published a formerly secret diary where GWB admitted to lying.
So I'm not about to try and prove that Trump "lied" or "didn't lie" with each his statements. Instead, we can discuss whether or not he was right or wrong. Some of his statements that YOU deem to be a "lie" I think were actually correct.
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Which statements that CC/G/pizmobeach deems a lie do you consider to be factually inaccurate?
Quote:Statements which contain universally-inclusive (or exclusive) terms like "everyone", "nobody", "always", and "never" are categorically suspect. We don't even know if the "laws of physics" apply universally, much less an opinion.
"Sir, should you get a nobel prize?"
"Everyone thinks I should..."
Quote:Same problem. And I don't even know who that is.
"Everybody is with Tomi Lahren, a truly outstanding and respected young woman! "
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Fair points. I had dismissed those lacking context. Like when Trump said that all heinous MS-13 murderers were animals, and Libtards galore lied by saying he said all Illegal Aliens were animals.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Which statements that CC/G/pizmobeach deems a lie do you consider to be factually inaccurate?Quote:Statements which contain universally-inclusive (or exclusive) terms like "everyone", "nobody", "always", and "never" are categorically suspect. We don't even know if the "laws of physics" apply universally, much less an opinion.
"Sir, should you get a nobel prize?"
"Everyone thinks I should..."Quote:Same problem. And I don't even know who that is.
"Everybody is with Tomi Lahren, a truly outstanding and respected young woman! "
As for Tomi Lauren, I don't think you are supposed to know who she is. I suspect RapKnight might know of her. I wonder who told Trump about her, she seems too sensible for him to follow.
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