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JJ
Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

There are people here - and I won't embarrass them by naming them -



You are without question the most dishonest person ever to post on this board. You really are just like Trump.

You say there "are people here" and then link back to threads from 2004. What people could you be talking about that are here?

You say you'll be breaking a trust or embarrassing them if you name them - more lies.



Agreed G...


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Thursday, May 24, 2018 11:43 PM

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OMG x 1,000,000,000,000! I love how he
Hannity? Giuliani?



They are both plainly, observably full of sh*t, but my specific reference below was to Hannity. You honestly don't hear the strained incredulity from Hannity? You can hear him struggling and flubbing to get the lies out in something that sounds believable. He is a C rate actor.

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misinterprets on purpose the other "Fake News" outlets' headlines.
Like what? Can you provide a few examples, bc I don't know what you're referring to.



1:09 "Even the Washington Post and the NY Times are just now confirming everything we have been saying for the last 18 months." Confirm 18 months of Fox BS? Really? Hard to see where the hyperbole stops. Of course that's what they want. More giant OMG sound bites, "It makes Watergate look like a parking ticket..."

5:10 "Now the main stream media, even they are starting to catch on and they have to agree with what we've been reporting, we've been proven right..." That the FBI thought Russia was trying to corrupt Trump's campaign so they had it under surveillance? If anything these Trump bozos are pointing too their own corruption and how it warranted FBI investigation. And then look at the headlines - was Fux saying there was FBI surveillance for the last 18 months that was being denied by MSM? They/MSM weren't forced to agree with anything Fux said. "And even look at this, Fake News CNN, even they can't ignore the facts..." right, because they just printed a factual story line that they corroborated? But since Fux can twist it (Trump and his slaves) then Hannity acts like it's some great victory that Fux can report the truth.

I doubt you will cop to any of this or how obvious it is - as always though, I do look forward to your awkward "spin."



Bump for Siggy - you sure were all hot and bothered to get a quick follow up - where are you now?

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Thursday, May 24, 2018 11:53 PM

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You say there "are people here" and then link back to threads from 2004. What people could you be talking about that are here? You say you'll be breaking a trust or embarrassing them if you name them - more lies.- GSTRING

Agreed G... - THUGR

They are here and I won't name them, so stop your bullshit.

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Friday, May 25, 2018 12:04 AM

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... misinterprets on purpose the other "Fake News" outlets' headlines.- CC

Like what? Can you provide a few examples, bc I don't know what you're referring to. - SIGNY

1:09 "Even the Washington Post and the NY Times are just now confirming everything we have been saying for the last 18 months." Confirm 18 months of Fox BS? Really? Hard to see where the hyperbole stops.

Yep, hyperbole for sure. One thing I tell hubby ... words like "always" and "never" and "everything" usually have exceptions and shouldn't be used lightly.

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More giant OMG sound bites, "It makes Watergate look like a parking ticket..."- CC
It might. If it was shown that the WH got the FBI, CIA, and NSA to spy on the Trump campaign for political reasons, that implicates a lot of the "intelligence community", not just the campaign end of one political party. Potentially a lot more significant since it involves the political corruption of established spying/ enforcement bureaucracies.

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5:10 "Now the main stream media, even they are starting to catch on and they have to agree with what we've been reporting, we've been proven right..." That the FBI thought Russia was trying to corrupt Trump's campaign so they had it under surveillance? If anything these Trump bozos are pointing too their own corruption and how it warranted FBI investigation. And then look at the headlines - was Fux saying there was FBI surveillance for the last 18 months that was being denied by MSM? They/MSM weren't forced to agree with anything Fux said. "And even look at this, Fake News CNN, even they can't ignore the facts..." right, because they just printed a factual story line that they corroborated? But since Fux can twist it (Trump and his slaves) then Hannity acts like it's some great victory that Fux can report the truth.
Sorry but I'm confused here. I don't know what the MSM is reporting, and I don't listen to Fox, so I can't really compare the two or respond to this part of your post. If the MSM is now admitting that Trump campaign really was being spied on, isn't that what Trump and altnews have been saying all along? Weren't Trump and altnews sources portrayed as paranoid lunatics, out of touch with reality, for making that claim ... which turned out to be true after all?

Bc, as I understand it, what the MSM is NOW admitting is "Well yes, he was being spied on. [admission] But it's a GOOD thing. [rationalization/ goalpost moving]"

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Friday, May 25, 2018 2:22 AM

From your lack of response, I guess that means I'm correct.

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Friday, May 25, 2018 4:29 AM

A truckload uv cocain wuz parked in hiz driveway. So overloaded that a tire popped. He wuz inside the house conversing with the 3 narcotrafficos that were under survailens wen the ajents burst in to conclude the investigation. 5 larj steamer trunks uv cash were by the garaj door ready to be transfered.

But, sins he wuznt previously named az a target uv the investigation, the DEA coud not take him into custody or file any charjez. Also, the meth lab found in the hidden sub basement coud not be uzed az evidens sins the case wuz only about cocain.

That makes just az much sens az Trump's take on this story.

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Friday, May 25, 2018 5:10 AM

A man on his staff drunkenly said he knew where to find cocaine. So the DEA camped out around his house, and tapped his phones. One of the DEA officers offered second staffer a supply of cocaine, and then offered a third staffer a supply of cocaine; none of which was ever transferred. A fourth staffer had bought cigarettes in the past and paid no tax, and they arrested him to squeeze him for info. Cigarette smugglers in a faraway nation were indicted. At the same time, this head man's name was being constantly impugned in the press as being a drug smuggler AND a drug addict; and anyone who questioned the validity of the operation was branded as being "pro-drug".

There's a fine line between "aggressive investigation", "witch hunt", and "entrapment". I don't know exactly where the FBI/CIA/DOJ/Mueller investigation is on that spectrum, but it seems pretty close to the line to me.

Don't forget that the FBI's claim to fame - under Mueller- was publicly persecuting two innocent men for the anthrax letters. One of them sued the government, and won. The other committed suicide. Case closed, I guess!

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Mueller’s FBI honed in on Steven Hatfill as the culprit — a “flag-waving” American, who had served in the Army, then dedicated himself to protecting America from bioterrorist threats by working in the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

There was no direct link from Hatfill to the attacks, by the FBI’s own admission, and the bureau never charged Hatfill. The FBI did however spy on, follow, and harass him non-stop for years. The Department of Justice also publicly outed Hatfill as the possible terrorist.

While Hatfill’s dignity and life was being trampled on by America’s secret police, Mueller took a stand. But on a different topic. He made front page news for threatening President Bush he would resign over NSA policy. All while his own team was trampling on the rights of an American in the FBI’s largest-ever investigation.

Hatfill successfully sued the government for its unlawful actions. He won almost $6 million dollars.

After the Hatfill investigation blew up in the FBI’s face, they moved on to Bruce Ivins, another Army researcher who had actually volunteered to help the FBI investigate this case, and had been doing so for years. It wasn’t until five years after the attack that Mueller’s men decided Ivins was a target.

The FBI case against Ivins, once again, was based on circumstantial evidence. ... Ivins was never indicted, just given the Hatfill treatment. His house was raided, and he was threatened with a death sentence, or as his lawyer put it, put under “relentless pressure of accusation and innuendo.” He committed suicide.



You an "build a case" against ANYone ... even YOU, JO! ... if you relentlessly look for "indications" and cherry-pick your data like crazy.

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Friday, May 25, 2018 8:36 PM

So, I caught the tail-end of an NPR interview with some dipshit Texas Congressional Democrat (Castro, I think it was) and he was claiming that Nunes was being "unreasonable" in demanding information from the FBI and DOJ, and that the only reason he was getting information was because Trump and Nunes were browbeating the agencies, and I'm thinking What, is this guy NUTS?.

The Senate and House OVERSIGHT committees were formed to prevent widespread abuses by the spook agencies that had been discovered in the 60s and 70s.

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The Committee was created by the Senate in 1976 to “oversee and make continuing studies of the intelligence activities and programs of the United States Government,” to “submit to the Senate appropriate proposals for legislation and report to the Senate concerning such intelligence activities and programs,” and to “provide vigilant legislative oversight over the intelligence activities of the United States to assure that such activities are in conformity with the Constitution and laws of the United States.”

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/about

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The United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) is a committee of the United States House of Representatives, currently chaired by Congressman Devin Nunes (California). Created in 1977, HPSCI is charged with oversight of the United States Intelligence Community—which includes the intelligence and intelligence-related activities of the following seventeen elements of the U.S. Government—and the Military Intelligence Program.

https://intelligence.house.gov/about/history-and-jurisdiction.htm

How can you have "oversight" committees unless you KNOW WHAT THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ARE DOING? And how can you know whether ABUSES are being committed unless you demand THE VERY INFORMATION THAT THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES WOULD TRY TO HIDE?

This Dem dimwit, he's gone off the rails with rabid partisanship.

Our intelligence agencies are SUPPOSED to be reviewed by a civilian authority - Congress, to be exact. And I have to say that Congress hasn't done a particularly stellar job ... after all, look at all of the abuses that Snowden (and others) revealed. But just because they've been far too lax in the oversight, and just because their relationship with the intelligence agencies is too meek and subservient doesn't mean that they should not be holding the agencies' feet to the fire. That's their job, and Castro should know that or he should resign from Congress.

Sheesh! Idiots abound!

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As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

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Saturday, May 26, 2018 7:05 PM

Mueller Is Reportedly Examining An Israeli Firm’s Fake News Presentation

Special counsel Robert Mueller may be pulling on another thread in relation to foreign influence on Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.
According to The Wall Street Journal, his team of investigators have obtained a nine-slide presentation created by the Israeli firm, Psy-Group, which claims to have links to Israeli intelligence agencies.

It is unclear, according to the Journal’s reporting, who received the presentation and whether it is based on analysis of specific activity during the campaign or more of a hypothetical pitch. Mueller is also reportedly examining Psy-Group’s founder Joel Zamel, who is believed to have attended a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. at Trump Tower in the weeks prior to election day.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mueller-is-reportedly-examinin
g-an-israeli-firm’s-fake-news-presentation/ar-AAxOKCI?ocid=spartanntp


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Saturday, May 26, 2018 7:19 PM

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