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Trump Sure Seems to Like Russia a Lot, Doesn’t He?
Over the course of 16+ months, President Trump has acted consistently and with some success to destabilize and break up the western alliance — both its formal manifestation in NATO but also its less formal dimensions in trade and other partnerships. He has also worked consistently on really every front to advance the interests of Russia.
Less obviously to many Americans, he’s been doing something similar in East Asia. The U.S. alliance with Japan and South Korea…is not simply to protect against North Korea. It is to build a series of security relationships with countries on that periphery to act as a counterweight to the regional (perhaps world) great power, China.
….The last twenty four hours of attacks on our closest allies capped by President Trump’s seemingly out of the blue demand to bring Russia back into the G-7 (making it again the G-8 which it was for most of the post-Cold War era until Russia was expelled over the annexation of Crimea) simply brings the matter into a newly sharp relief. If candidate Trump and President Putin had made a corrupt bargain which obligated President Trump to destabilize all U.S. security and trade alliances (especially NATO, which has been Russia’s primary strategic goal for 70 years) and advance the strategic interests of Russia, there’s really nothing more remotely realistic he could have done to accomplish that than what he has in fact done.
Take a moment to let that sink in. I need to take a moment to let it sink in. It’s shocking to me. It’s shocking to me what’s happening….We have a President who clearly got a great deal of assistance from Russia in getting elected….He’s doing all the stuff he’d have been asked to do if such a corrupt bargain had been made. At a certain point — and I’d say we’re clearly at or past that point — it really doesn’t matter whether we can prove such a bargain was made. I’m not even sure it matters whether it was explicit or even happened. The bank robber helped the teller get the job and now the teller just won’t seem to lock the safe or even turn on the alarm. We can debate forever whether the teller is just absent-minded or has some odd philosophical aversion toward locks. The debate may be unresolvable. It truly doesn’t matter.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/06/donald-trump-sure-seems-to-like
-russia-a-lot-doesnt-he/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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It’s of course not illegal for a candidate for office to espouse pro-Russian foreign policy views. But to an extent, there was plenty of “collusion” in plain view throughout 2016 — crimes were committed and Trump openly praised them; he offered pro-Russia policy in exchange for Russian assistance, received the assistance that he sought, and has labored ever since to avoid investigating or punishing Russia’s crimes.
And here, ultimately, is where Paul Ryan’s argument completely falls apart. The speaker says “there’s no evidence of collusion” but also isn’t willing to go full Trump, denounce the investigation as a fraud, and call for its end. Instead, he says, “this is about Russia and what they did and making sure they don’t do it again.” But Trump has always been clear that he doesn’t think Russia did anything wrong, doesn’t want the full details to become known, doesn’t want anyone punished, and has no particular interest in making sure they don’t do it again. And that, itself, is perhaps the most powerful evidence of collusion.
www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17438386/trump-russia-collusion
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lol... it makes me laugh when you think that Trump did all of this stuff knowing full well that the Leftists and the MSM were watching everything he does, including eating fast food, with a microscope.
I can't even think of another person in the history of anything who has had his every move or word so scrutinized by the entire world.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by SECONAL:
It’s of course not illegal for a candidate for office to espouse pro-Russian foreign policy views. But to an extent, there was plenty of “collusion” in plain view throughout 2016 — crimes were committed and Trump openly praised them; he offered pro-Russia policy in exchange for Russian assistance, received the assistance that he sought, and has labored ever since to avoid investigating or punishing Russia’s crimes.
Quote:SECONAL, once again displaying blatant hypocrisy.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62424&mid=1
054245#1054245 Originally posted by SECONAL:
Every tweet is like another slice of chocolate cake for me. Every failure is delicious. Trump is entertaining me and paying me with tax cuts. He might even be damaging the GOP's election chances, which is a great thing.
SECONAL is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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U.S. hits five Russian firms with sanctions, citing cyberattacks
"The United States is engaged in an ongoing effort to counter malicious actors working at the behest of the Russian Federation."
The Treasury Department said it was imposing sanctions on five Russian firms and three of their executives under legislation passed last year and an executive order aimed at punishing efforts to hack into U.S. computer systems. The sanctions freeze any assets that those targeted may have in U.S. jurisdictions and bar Americans from doing business with them.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-hits-five-russian-firms-sanctio
ns-citing-cyberattacks-n882001
Funny how this keeps happening without evidence.
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Any evidence? Or are you still stupid enough to trust the government's say-so.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Any evidence? Or are you still stupid enough to trust the government's say-so.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
You did not specify which government. Canada you can trust. There is plenty of evidence of untrustworthiness about 1kiki and Trump. Both of them post constantly. All of it is evidence.
A quisling serves the interests of foreign masters at his/her own country’s expense. Any reasonable doubts about that reality were put to rest by the events of the past few days, when Trump defended Russia while attacking our closest allies and 1kiki defended Trump.
We don’t know Trump’s motivation or 1kiki's. Is it blackmail? Bribery? Or just a generalized sympathy for autocrats and hatred for democracy? And we may never find out: If he shuts down the Mueller investigation and Republicans retain control of Congress, the cover-up may hold indefinitely. But his actions tell the story.
This isn’t about Trump. It is, instead, about the people and 1kiki who are enabling his betrayal of America: the inner circle of officials and media personalities who are willing to back him up whatever he says or does, and the wider set of politicians — basically the entire Republican delegation in Congress — who have the power and constitutional obligation to stop what he’s doing, but won’t lift a finger in America’s defense.
It’s important to understand that the fight Trump is picking with our allies isn’t about any real conflict of interest — because they are not, in fact, doing the things he accuses them of doing. No, Canada and Europe aren’t imposing “massive tariffs” on U.S. goods: A vast majority of U.S. exports enter Canada tariff-free, and the average European tariff is only 3 percent. These are simple facts, not disputable issues.
So Trump is justifying his attempt to destroy the Western alliance by accusing our allies of misdeeds that exist only in his imagination.
The same thing may be said about his claim that Canada’s Justin Trudeau somehow betrayed him and undermined the Group of 7 summit meeting. In reality, Trudeau’s remarks at the end of the conference were restrained and conventional, simply asserting — as any normal leader would — that he would defend his nation’s interests. The Trump rage-tweet that followed was responding to an insult that, like those “massive tariffs,” exists only in his imagination.
But that’s Trump, a man whose presidency has been marked by around seven false statements per day in office. Same is true of 1kiki. But what about his officials?
Well, they have been acting like the courtiers in the old story about the emperor’s new clothes. (The emperor’s new hairpiece?) If the boss says something whose falsity is obvious to anyone with eyes to see, they’ll claim to believe his version.
So Larry Kudlow, the administration’s chief economist (actually “economist,” but that’s another story) went on TV to declare that Trudeau “stabbed us in the back.” Peter Navarro, the administration’s chief trade expert (“expert”) went even further, repeating the stab-in-the-back line and declaring that Trudeau faces a “special place in hell.”
Remember when people used to imagine that Trump would be restrained by officials who would put some check on his worst impulses? Maybe that happened for a few months, but at this point he’s entirely surrounded by sycophants and 1kiki who will tell him whatever he wants to hear.
More at www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/opinion/trump-quisling-enablers.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
I resort to personal attacks when my brain isn't working ... which is most of the time. And also ...
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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62424&mid=1
054245#1054245 Originally posted by second:
Every tweet is like another slice of chocolate cake for me. Every failure is delicious. Trump is entertaining me and paying me with tax cuts. He might even be damaging the GOP's election chances, which is a great thing.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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lol... you can trust Canada's government, huh?
Why don't you go move there Second?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:6ix, you told us that you voted for that ignoramus and quisling, Donald Trump. Your thinking is not very robust. Trump was lying his head off at the G7 meeting in Canada. The Canadians corrected him. Then Trump threw a shit fit on twitter. Now the Canadian Parliament is wishing for Trump to have a raging stroke and die. Good work, Parliament!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol... you can trust Canada's government, huh?
Why don't you go move there Second?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canadians-stand-together-president-trump-stand
s-alone-mps-back-pm-in-u-s-trade-dispute-1.3968689
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