Are you going to boycott "SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY"
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UPDATED: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 18:57
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Quote:If not for Rogue One, I could agree with you.
Originally posted by Zeek:
I'm not boycotting, but I don't plan to see it either. The new Star Wars is just so disappointing. I mean they threw out the entire expanded universe to replace it with poorly written dribble. They don't even seem to care if the dribble connects together. I mean The Force Awakens clearly was not the movie The Last Jedi wanted it to be. So, the director just threw out stuff left and right that he didn't like. Can we hire adults to make these movies please?
They had all the potential in the world and they've squandered it. I think I'm just going to have to say I'm not a Star Wars fan anymore and move on. There's so much good entertainment these days that there's no point in wasting my time on bad movies.
But I strongly disagree regarding R1. One of the best films of the past decade.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:
I don't know but,
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
After the film was completed, it was shown, I think at Sundance. Distributors lobbied to help get it theaters. One of them was a guy named Weinstein.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:
I didn't hear of any Boycott against Wind River. Was it supposed to be a controversial film? What reason was given for a called Boycott?, and What group made the call to Boycott Wind River? Any articles on the matter?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
I forgot to mention: The SJW boycott of last year's best film, Wind River (IMHO), really ticked me off, and repels me from any talk of boycott. Unless somebody boycotts SJW - then I'm in.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Why? What if it's the best SW film of the last decade?
Originally posted by whozit:
I go to YOUTUBE everyday, the STAR WARS fandom is calling for a boycott of "SOLO: A STAR WARS Story" because "STAR WARS: Episode 9" sucked wind. The entertainment sites are writing that "SOLO" will have a strong opening, it may, but will tank the following weekend? If it does tank will the suits at Disney demand the suits at Lucas Film make changes...like firing Kathleen Kennedy? I remember when Disney bought the distribution rights and many said YES! Many thought Disney would do better than FOX after episodes 1,2 and 3, now the fandom is REALLY pissed at Disney and Lucas Film. So ya going to boycott? I am, but sometimes I can be an really asshole. 
I thought Rogue One is the best of the period, but Ron Howard could be better.
I practically never allow somebody else decide films for me, and I will not pass up Solo.
Not to mention "entertainment sites" have the least clue of all.
SGG
Come Awards season, it seemed almost universally lamented that WR would not be nominated because of ME TOO.
I had hoped that sense and integrity would prevail, but that is a different crowd.
I found this....in Indiewire - Aug. 6, 2017
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/box-office-wind-river-step-columbus-s
pecialty-limited-release-1201863937/
Opening
Wind River (Weinstein) – Metacritic: 73; Festivals include: Sundance, Cannes, Seattle 2017Quote:
And there's this..............
$164,187 in 4 theaters; PTA (per screen average): $41,042
Taylor Sheridan’s well-received rural thriller debuted with the strongest limited debut since late June’s “The Big Sick” and “The Beguiled.” Since then an array of festival successes with similarly upbeat reviews have opened. It’s The Weinstein Company’s best limited opening since “Carol” in late 2015 (better than “Lion,” which went on with an Oscar boost to over $50 million), so this is a return to form for the once-dominant player in the specialized world. Saturday increased a healthy 23 per cent from Friday, suggesting good initial audience response.Quote:
Critical Response
The Weinstein Company acquired the distribution rights on May 13, 2016, during the 2016 Cannes Film Festival.[7] In January 2017, it was announced that the company would no longer distribute the film,[8] but the distribution deal was later finalized.[9] It had a limited release on August 4, 2017, before going wide on August 18.[10]
In October 2017, it was announced the film would be distributed on home media and streaming services through Lionsgate with the Weinstein Company name and logo omitted from the credits, trailer and packaging, because of the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse scandal. As a result, The Weinstein Company finally stopped distributing the film.[11] All money Weinstein would have made was donated to charity.
It got mainly positive reviews: Rotten Tomatoes - the film has an approval rating of 87% based on 213 reviews, with an average rating of 7.8/10.
"Wind River lures viewers into a character-driven mystery with smart writing, a strong cast, and a skillfu
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SPOILER ALERT: Plenty of sarcasm in the video. I know that's lost on some people here, so wanted to point that out ahead of time.
There are absolutely no spoilers to the movie in this video.
These guys probably live right down the street from you, JSF.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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What did Kathleen Kennedy say to Ron Howard when he took over as director?
"You're all clear kid. Now let's blow this thing and go home."
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I'm goinfg to watch it.
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Well... I'm not boycotting it or anything. The last Star Wars movie I ever saw was Episode II. I gave up on star wars way before it was cool.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I don't know what happened. It was normal when I responded, then once I submitted it went all crazy, like you........wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy over to the right.
Ha, Ha!
SGG
Why? What if it's the best SW film of the last decade?
I thought Rogue One is the best of the period, but Ron Howard could be better.
I practically never allow somebody else decide films for me, and I will not pass up Solo.
Not to mention "entertainment sites" have the least clue of all.
I forgot to mention: The SJW boycott of last year's best film, Wind River (IMHO), really ticked me off, and repels me from any talk of boycott. Unless somebody boycotts SJW - then I'm in.
After the film was completed, it was shown, I think at Sundance. Distributors lobbied to help get it theaters. One of them was a guy named Weinstein.
Come Awards season, it seemed almost universally lamented that WR would not be nominated because of ME TOO.
I had hoped that sense and integrity would prevail, but that is a different crowd.
Whatever you posted, I had to quote just to be able
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Ha, ha, ha..........good one.
Every once in a while, you come up with a good one.
But, don't cocky kid!
Ha! I kill me!
SGG
P.S. This was fun!
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What did Kathleen Kennedy say to Ron Howard when he took over as director?
"You're all clear kid. Now let's blow this thing and go home."
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I'm with you Zeek, mostly.
I've always said that writing a good story is more than half the battle. The writing is key, but then you have to have a good director to translate that onto the screen. JJ bringing back the OGs for one last hurrah was, as I see it, paying homage but also, bringing back the die-hard fans. He knew this going in, so I kind of expected a walk down memory lane. Some hated it, while others basked in the glow of hero-worship.
But I agree that TFA was poorly written. My pet peeve was how did Rey know of the Jedi Mind Trick, much less how to use it. The theory on the internet is that Luke's light sabre, infused with the Force, transmitted that infusion to Rey when she touched it. Hence The Awakening. It sensed that she was Force sensitive and passed on it's "knowledge" from it's experience with Anakin and then Luke. Interesting, but unless JJ covers that in Episode 9, it would completely unravel the entire story arc for the new SW generation.
A point that Kennedy made clear she was pursuing. Understandable in light of the billions Disney spent to continue the saga of a time in a galaxy far, far away.
Then Kennedy anoints the next "brilliant mind" to helm the good ship Star Wars, only one small problem, neither he nor she haven't a clue how to proceed. I argue that there is a way to pay homage to the original joy and delight that started in 1977, and pass the torch onto the next generation of Star Wars nerds. For those who love sci-fi, adventure and the wonder of a well-written fable.
But unlike Kevin Feige, of the MCU, Kennedy does not have the wherewithall to guide this beloved franchise onto the next phase. He has a plan, a purpose and the balls to see it through (no pun intended). She needs to buy a clue. Rian Johnson utterly and completely gave both the fans and JJ, the middle finger. And whether it was an error of commission or omission, so did Kathleen Kennedy. If the intention was to blow up the franchise, well, they succeeded, miserably so, but succeed they did. Now, I've heard that JJ and company did provide an over-arcing story to cover this trilogy, but Kennedy allowed Johnson free reign to write and direct as he saw fit.
Now, I'm all for innovation and progress in a series. Hell, this is what sci-fi is all about -- innovation, daring, adventure and, most of all, imagination. But it has to follow a logical path. It must be well written.
That's first and foremost. It is first, last and always.......the story.
What Kennedy and company failed to see was that you must serve the story.
Sure, pass on the torch, but serve the story. One that makes sense. For actors, there's the audition, to see if the actor can interpret the character's essence within the story. For directors, it's their body of work. For producers, it's picking the right people and stories to put up on the screen. But, as I have learned, you can't serve two masters.
So, you're right, picking adults who know what they're doing is key. Kennedy failed twice in that regard. Johnson for The Last Jedi, and those two guys (I forget their names) for the Solo movie. I wonder if she ever bothered to read the script for either of these two movies. Wasn't there an overall story arc that they should have followed? Give me Feige or those guys from Game of Thrones. Hand the franchise over to them and see what happens. I dare say that they would kick ass.
Now, the latest is reviews for Solo are not good. It's clear to me Disney needs to make a decision. Oh, I don't think they would fire her, but she needs help, and pronto. They have squandered a golden opportunity to advance the franchise, and possibly surpass the original trilogy. I don't envy JJ Abrams, he has a monumental task. Fixing a juggernaut. It's going to take a Herculean effort. I'm rooting for him to pull it off, but right now it doesn't look good.
Boycott!? I don't think it would work, but I also think it's not needed.
The bottom line
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by GWEK:
Soooo.... anyway....
I'm not going to be boycotting SOLO because I think it's generally silly to boycott a movie in most cases.
I get that some folks feel that "new" Star Wars is not "their" Star Wars, and that's just fine. No need to make a thing of it; just don't see it, and shut up.
Personally, I consider the Original Trilogy "my" Star Wars, so I imagine I may well share some features with the folks calling for the boycott, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying (at least somewhat) later movies.
Heck, I LIKE the Prequel Trilogy! Sure, it's not as good as the Original Trilogy, but it's still Star Wars and it's still lots of fun. Jar Jar Binks annoyed me, but I'm grown-up enough to understand that Jar Jar (and some of the other ridiculousness) isn't supposed to be there for me. That's for the kiddies. I remember seeing Episode I on opening day and you could feel the shoulders of all the adults tense whenever Jar Jar was onscreen. But the children laughed out loud. The children, and my friend, Dan... whatever that says about Dan. Different strokes, right?
I'm not a fan of the Sequel Trilogy but a lot of that has to do with J.J. Abrams. I love is TV work, but his movies generally leave me cold, and Episode 7 was no different. Episode 8 feels like it was Rian Johnson saying he didn't like Episode 7 either and doing everything he could to undercut it. That left me with really, really mixed feelings about the movie - but those mixed feelings didn't prevent me from seeing it three time (and, ultimately, enjoying some parts of it more each time, even if I think the movie as a whole is a bit of a miss).
Rogue One stands on it's own (so far) as an amazing piece of work post-OT, simultaneously both the best Star Wars movie in decades and the worst Star Wars movie ever to be made (the latter in that it's actually, empirically, not a good movie at all if you haven't seen the other movies: it's SO dependent on A New Hope that it cannot stand on it's own as a separate work).
And, regardless of what I think of recent Star Wars movies, as a Firefly fan, how can I possibly NOT give this movie a chance? Looks to me a lot like Han, Lando and the rest aim to misbehave.
So, yeah, I'll be there for SOLO opening night, and likely later in the weekend, too.
Hi Gwek! "pizmobeach" here - so nice to see you posting and as always, your thoughtful, mature review of issues. (Same to you Wish). How's the writing going?
If there's a Youtube boycott proposed (hard to type that without smiling) that alone would make me want to go. But I don't need that - I'll see it out of basic curiosity. I love Science Fiction, and the art and craft of filmmaking and have witnessed the Star Wars series from it's first frame. So why not? I'm long passed the drays of "they owe me" when I go to a movie, in fact I don't think I ever felt that way. It's a beast to get it right, and when you do, sometimes it's just a lucky thing.
Pizmo! Good to see you!
To sidestep for a minute, have you played the Firefly boardgame? If so, swing on by Boardgamegeek. I've been doing a lot of stuff there. Not quite Virtual Firefly, but it keeps me busy.
As for trying to remain thoughtful and mature, I wanna, I really wanna... but I can help but post this, which is what I hear whenever someone tries to win an online argument (or worse, thinks they've already won) by saying "read a book":
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