Are you going to boycott "SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY"
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UPDATED: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 18:57
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Boycott ??? But then I don't know what day it is , most days.Alot of rehashing of old storylines .Last one wasn't too bad 678??? .Enjoyed Rogue One more than the new ones and im going to see this next week.
You buy this ship, treat her proper, she'll be with you for the rest of your life.
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Quote:I don't know. Throughout your post and quotes, the nagging horror seems to be you are arguing for a Jar Jar Binks Story. Did Lucas really ruin the entirety of filmdom when he allowed Jar Jar screen time?
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
An exerpt from the article regarding movies and White Male Leads:Quote:
Those allegedly boycotting Star Wars over The Last Jedi ironically stayed away from a chapter more suited to their interests. I am hesitant to give the vocal minority who didn’t just dislike The Last Jedi (that’s allowed) but viewed it as SJW propaganda (that’s evil) too much credit. To the extent that it had any effect, you had some folks ignoring Solo either because they loved The Last Jedi or because they hated The Last Jedi. I never thought a Han Solo prequel was a good idea, but even I didn’t see this perfect storm coming.
The writer was looking to make a point about reading too much into the title.Quote:
Not every film starring a young white male lead is doomed to struggle overseas (Kingsman: The Secret Service). Not every female-led or minority-centric biggie is going to kick butt here (Pacific Rim: Uprising) and abroad (Ghost in the Shell). Yet, there is enough evidence to suggest that it doesn’t hurt to have your movie centered on a racial minority or a woman (of any color). The key will still be making movies, of all sizes, that are demographically-specific event movies. It’s why It and Girls Trip were events, but King Arthur and The Mummy were not.
In the final analysis, you still need to make a good movie. The best in writing, acting, directing, etc. if you want people to come.
But then again, he offers this.......Quote:
In the end, Solo had little to offer that was fresh and had little to sell beyond being a movie that happened to be part of the Star Wars universe. But in 2018, an event movie featuring a generic white guy in the lead is that much less of an event movie, and merely being a big-budget fantasy spectacle isn’t enough. Giving certain demographics, a still too rare opportunity to root for heroes that look like them can help create demographically-specific event movies. Thus, from a certain point of view, white male movie stars may indeed be box office poison.
Are White guys still in charge?
SGG
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Quote:This really seems to focus the fact that Solo was jinxed, by being the unfortunate entry which followed the dreck that was TLJ.
Originally posted by Zeek:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yep... I called it.
This is getting too predictable.
As 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' Flops, Are Movies About White Men Box Office Poison?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmend
elson/2018/05/29/as-solo-a-star-wars-story-flops-are-movies-about-white-men-box-office-poison/#674240cd5d49
Of course that's the take-away here. What else could it be?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Actually the rumors are that Lucasfilm's take away is that Solo released too quickly after The Last Jedi and people weren't ready for more Star Wars.
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Oh! We're going there.
Still racism no matter who is at the receiving end.
SGG
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Are White guys still in charge?
SGG
They're Jewish. Does that count?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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So, we're knuckleheads now. Well then, include yourself, even with Kodi (or whatever) you are STILL supporting Hollywood. Stopped watching TV and movies altogether!?
Bravo, good for you. What do we have for him Johnny!?
SGG
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
In the final analysis, you still need to make a good movie. The best in writing, acting, directing, etc. if you want people to come.
SGG
Well there's the rub. Almost nobody is doing this now, but you knuckleheads keep spending your hard earned cash in this down economy making these incompetent rich people even richer.
Say no to all of it.
Hell. I have Kodi and could watch any movie or TV show I wanted to for free. I can't even remember the last movie I saw (I think it may have been Welcome to Me), and I even stopped watching TV shows sometime last summer. The only show I've seen at all was about 5 episodes of that sci-fi show I mentioned in the Sci-Fi thread while visiting with my brother and my Dad, but I haven't been bothered to watch any more of it... I can't even remember the name of it.
I dunno. I think I'm just over TV and Movies. They've lost their kick.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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That's my point exactly Zeek. A good story will attract people who love a good story, period, end of discussion (of course, notwithstanding Six's self-imposed entertainment exile).
That Star Wars fatigue bullshit is just that.....bullshit. The Solo movie was not that bad, but it wasn't that good either. Howard saved whatever mess he inherited (the man should get an award for pulling Solo out of the fire), but maybe, I think, they should have postponed their release date to do it justice. After all, they did spend a reported $300 million in total (at least that's the rumor).
Disney gambled greatly on these guys delivering good stories - Johnson and the two directors of the Lego movie (which was brilliant). They also have gambled on Kathleen Kennedy. The fans though, had other things in mind. Now maybe Disney will think twice about future decisions. George Lucas must be at home chuckling to himself, I think he knew that he could no longer come with fresh and new ideas about his franchise, and therefore sold to the highest bidder. Are there still stories to be told. Yes, Rogue One was proof positive, just need brave and bold writers willing to peer into the future. But mostly Disney must be willing to gamble on the right storytellers. Ones that understand the mythology of Star Wars.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yep... I called it.
This is getting too predictable.
As 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' Flops, Are Movies About White Men Box Office Poison?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/05/29/as-solo-a-star-
wars-story-flops-are-movies-about-white-men-box-office-poison/#674240cd5d49
Of course that's the take-away here. What else could it be?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Actually the rumors are that Lucasfilm's take away is that Solo released too quickly after The Last Jedi and people weren't ready for more Star Wars.
This from the same company that released Black Panther and Avengers Infinity War 10 weeks apart and they both had amazing box office performances. So, much so that Black Panther was still in theaters when they released it on DVD/Bluray. If you make movies that audiences want to see then it doesn't seem to matter how quickly you release them. Why would suits learn or use logic though?
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Is that what you got from my post? Good Lord!
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I don't know. Throughout your post and quotes, the nagging horror seems to be you are arguing for a Jar Jar Binks Story. Did Lucas really ruin the entirety of filmdom when he allowed Jar Jar screen time?
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
An exerpt from the article regarding movies and White Male Leads:Quote:
Those allegedly boycotting Star Wars over The Last Jedi ironically stayed away from a chapter more suited to their interests. I am hesitant to give the vocal minority who didn’t just dislike The Last Jedi (that’s allowed) but viewed it as SJW propaganda (that’s evil) too much credit. To the extent that it had any effect, you had some folks ignoring Solo either because they loved The Last Jedi or because they hated The Last Jedi. I never thought a Han Solo prequel was a good idea, but even I didn’t see this perfect storm coming.
The writer was looking to make a point about reading too much into the title.Quote:
Not every film starring a young white male lead is doomed to struggle overseas (Kingsman: The Secret Service). Not every female-led or minority-centric biggie is going to kick butt here (Pacific Rim: Uprising) and abroad (Ghost in the Shell). Yet, there is enough evidence to suggest that it doesn’t hurt to have your movie centered on a racial minority or a woman (of any color). The key will still be making movies, of all sizes, that are demographically-specific event movies. It’s why It and Girls Trip were events, but King Arthur and The Mummy were not.
In the final analysis, you still need to make a good movie. The best in writing, acting, directing, etc. if you want people to come.
But then again, he offers this.......Quote:
In the end, Solo had little to offer that was fresh and had little to sell beyond being a movie that happened to be part of the Star Wars universe. But in 2018, an event movie featuring a generic white guy in the lead is that much less of an event movie, and merely being a big-budget fantasy spectacle isn’t enough. Giving certain demographics, a still too rare opportunity to root for heroes that look like them can help create demographically-specific event movies. Thus, from a certain point of view, white male movie stars may indeed be box office poison.
Are White guys still in charge?
SGG
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You know Jewels, that was actually a well thought out response.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:This really seems to focus the fact that Solo was jinxed, by being the unfortunate entry which followed the dreck that was TLJ.
Originally posted by Zeek:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yep... I called it.
This is getting too predictable.
As 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' Flops, Are Movies About White Men Box Office Poison?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmend
elson/2018/05/29/as-solo-a-star-wars-story-flops-are-movies-about-white-men-box-office-poison/#674240cd5d49
Of course that's the take-away here. What else could it be?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Actually the rumors are that Lucasfilm's take away is that Solo released too quickly after The Last Jedi and people weren't ready for more Star Wars.
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't know. Throughout your post and quotes, the nagging horror seems to be you are arguing for a Jar Jar Binks Story. Did Lucas really ruin the entirety of filmdom when he allowed Jar Jar screen time?
I think it's possible that Jar Jar would have had an amazing story arc had Lucas done episodes 7, 8 and 9.
Subversion of expectations. A lost art in Hollywood.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yep... I called it.
This is getting too predictable.
As 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' Flops, Are Movies About White Men Box Office Poison?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/05/29/as-solo-a-star-
wars-story-flops-are-movies-about-white-men-box-office-poison/#674240cd5d49
Of course that's the take-away here. What else could it be?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The social justice warriors are blaming everyone except themselves. They can't accept the fact that episode 8 was the straw.
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