Trump withdraws from Iran nuclear deal
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Quote:Why is any of this weird? Did you not know? Have you not been paying attention?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, this is getting downright weird.
"Dave" of the X22 Report is right, again. He has been spouting for at least the last month that the Iranian nuclear deal was a joint venture between deep staters in the USA/EU and collaborators in Iran, that the purpose of the deal was (among other things) to transfer money to/ create a slush fund for the collaborators in Iran, and that if the rest of the money is not forthcoming, Iranians will feel free to reveal who those western politicians were on the other end of the deal.
And now, in a tweet from Iraq (which has close ties to Iran) ...Quote:and
Raman Ghavami @Raman_Ghavami
H.J.Ansari Zarif’s senior advisor: “If Europeans stop trading with Iran and don’t put pressure on US then we will reveal which western politicians and how much money they had received during nuclear negotiations to make #IranDeal happen.”
That would be interesting.#JCPOAQuote:Really?
No wonder Kerry is in a panic trying to salvage deal. Obama and rest of BenRhodesian crew must be on list too. I want to know how many network CEOs got captured. #ABC #CBS #CNN #AMJoy #inners #AMR
— omen (@omen_syria) May 12, 2018
https://ilovemyfreedom.org/grab-the-popcorn-iran-threatened-to-name-po
liticians-who-took-bribes-to-pass-nuclear-deal/?utm_source=realjack&utm_medium=twitter
Has Swiftboat Ketchup registered as a Foreign Agent?
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Quote:Apparently not!
Why is any of this weird? Did you not know? Have you not been paying attention?
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-14/ron-paul-explains-trumps-pla
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It’s easy to dismiss the bombastic Giuliani as he speaks to his financial benefactors in the MeK. Unfortunately, however, Giuliani’s claims were confirmed late last week, when the Washington Free Beacon published a three-page policy paper being circulated among National Security Council officials containing plans to spark regime change in Iran.
The paper suggests that the US focus on Iran’s many ethnic minority groups to spark unrest and an eventual overthrow of the government. This is virtually the same road map that the US has followed in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and so on. The results have been unmitigated disaster after disaster.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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The results have been unmitigated disaster after disaster.
Depends on what their goal was, dun'it?
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Quote:Wasn't Obama supporting the dictators/disasters of those 3? Protecting the evil from the locals, squashing unrest?
Originally posted by 1kiki:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-14/ron-paul-explains-trumps-pla
n-iran-put-terrorists-charge
It’s easy to dismiss the bombastic Giuliani as he speaks to his financial benefactors in the MeK. Unfortunately, however, Giuliani’s claims were confirmed late last week, when the Washington Free Beacon published a three-page policy paper being circulated among National Security Council officials containing plans to spark regime change in Iran.
The paper suggests that the US focus on Iran’s many ethnic minority groups to spark unrest and an eventual overthrow of the government. This is virtually the same road map that the US has followed in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and so on. The results have been unmitigated disaster after disaster.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Quote:I dunno, that description is too broad-brush to be accurate. Obama's relationship with Afghanistan and Iraq was post USA-invasion, and could best be described as "propping up the CIA-supported national government".
The paper suggests that the US focus on Iran’s many ethnic minority groups to spark unrest and an eventual overthrow of the government. This is virtually the same road map that the US has followed in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and so on. The results have been unmitigated disaster after disaster. - KIKI
Wasn't Obama supporting the dictators/disasters of those 3? Protecting the evil from the locals, squashing unrest?- JSF
On the other hand, Obama himself initiated and completed the destruction of Libya, and nearly destroyed Ukraine and Syria, so his relationship with THOSE nations was to destabilize/depose/destroy the then-current leadership.
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The results have been unmitigated disaster after disaster.- KIKI
Depends on what their goal was, dun'it?- CC
Well, if the goal was to replace functioning national governments with smoking ruins of failed-states crawling with jihadists, and to represent the Saudi and Israeli national interests by destroying other nations, then I say they scored bigtime!
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So, why is Kerry creeping around Iran, trying to salvage the Iran deal? Isn't he behaving as a private citizen negotiating with a foreign nation against current national policy? Isn't he providing aid and comfort to an enemy of the USA? When DOES treason and/or the Logan Act come into play?
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In any case .... thinking ahead ... a lot of what happens next depends on what the EU (France, Germany, the UK) decide. They would probably buck the Iranian sanctions if the USA would let them by working with non-dollar payments and keeping their transactions out of USA-located branches, but Bolton has already suggested that the USA might sanction any nation which breaks the Iranian sanctions. So if Trump and Bolton are serious about that, any large French, UK, or German transnational which does a large amount of business with the USA (which is probably all of them) won't risk sanctions.
Along this path, that means that China and Russia will complete their stranglehold/ warm embrace of Iran. We can see the outlines already: China is ready to step in if Total (French oil) bows out.
Quote:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-cnpc-total/chinas-cnpc
China's CNPC ready to take over Iran project if Total leaves: sources
-ready-to-take-over-iran-project-if-total-leaves-sources-idUSKBN1IC0TE
Also, if there is a complete rupture between the EU and Iran, and further payments and deal-making are out of the question, then the ayatollahs and other government functionaries who were in on the deal are free to tell all.
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Trump supporters would say that this was his plan to get the deep state out of the Iranian government. Just sayin'.
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Trump supporters would say that this was his plan to get the deep state out of the Iranian government. Just sayin'.
Most Trump supporters have no idea what is meant by "The Deep State" or if it's even real. And they probably don't even care. They just repeat what Fox tells them. Just like Trump!
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The results have been unmitigated disaster after disaster.- KIKI
Depends on what their goal was, dun'it?- CC
Well, if the goal was to replace functioning national governments with smoking ruins of failed-states crawling with jihadists, and to represent the Saudi and Israeli national interests by destroying other nations, then I say they scored bigtime! -SIGNY
So just ooc, what WERE those goals, do you suppose?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
The results have been unmitigated disaster after disaster.- KIKI
Depends on what their goal was, dun'it?- CC
Well, if the goal was to replace functioning national governments with smoking ruins of failed-states crawling with jihadists, and to represent the Saudi and Israeli national interests by destroying other nations, then I say they scored bigtime! -SIGNY
So just ooc, what WERE those goals, do you suppose?
Chaos and distractions and infighting - just what Russia is trying and succeeding with the US currently. You need to read more.
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