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POSTED BY: JO753
UPDATED: Monday, February 14, 2022 07:11
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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:09 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:
The point iz that this iz serious bizness. War 20teenz style. We got our assez kikt and the Nation beheded. The hed put in its plase belongz to the enemy.

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The point is that nobody is listening and nobody cares J0.

Had this been the first and only thing that the MSM went after Trump for, then even after all this time there might be more people who cared, but it is far from that.

Anybody care to jump in here and list the countless things the MSM has tried to use to bring Trump down since November 9th? Before "Russia" there seemed to be something new each and every single day. There still is, when there isn't any breaking news for a while and viewership is down.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:13 AM

Cites jack, you keep saying that. Cites....


T

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:27 AM

Poll: Most Americans concerned about Russian interference in midterm elections

More than six in 10 Americans are at least somewhat concerned about potential Russian interference in the 2018 elections

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-most-americans-concerned-about-russi
an-interference-in-midterm-elections
/


T

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:29 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Cites jack, you keep saying that. Cites....


T



I'll give you a cite tonight when we see how few people turned up to the Pennsylvania special election, regardless of the outcome.

Put an end italics in your signature. I'm tired of fixing my post because you have no internet etiquette.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:47 AM

You better check before you start predicting a republican win in Pennsylvania. Some are predicting a 3 to 6 point win by the democrat.

I fixed my signature and you thanked me. Stop bitching and figure out what you're doing wrong.


T

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
You better check before you start predicting a republican win in Pennsylvania. Some are predicting a 3 to 6 point win by the democrat.

I fixed my signature and you thanked me. Stop bitching and figure out what you're doing wrong.


T



I haven't said whether a Democrat or Republican would win at all. I don't care about that. I've actually said on several occasions that by the mid-terms I'd like the Dems to take either the house or the senate because I'm not comfortable when either side has all that power.

What I AM saying is that almost nobody who is of voting age in the district will show up to the polls today, even though the MSM is calling this a vote about Trump. We'll see what the percentage was when the counts are in. That will be one of the cites you're asking for. Just look at any voter turnout for any race in any district on any level for all of the cites you require.

Nobody cares.



And yes, many months back you fixed your broken signature and I thanked you.

It's broke again. YOU fix it.

You now have an italics open tag next to your font color tag. You need to put a close italics tag in your signature. Whenever somebody quotes you their own text is in italics now, unless they add the close italics or delete your open italics.

I don't know why I have to explain this to anybody. I've told you 3 times in as many days to fix it by now. Rude.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:16 AM

I think the NY Times may have learned one lesson since Trump trounced Hillary. They're being extremely conservative with their outcome predictions in the Pennsylvania election tonight.

With half of the votes tallied and Lamb up by nearly 10%, they're still only giving Lamb a 53% chance of winning.

Probably a smart idea, although I think Lamb is going to win.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 7:23 AM

BTW, T... The population in the 18th district is around 710,000 people.

Expected voter turnout is around 250,000 to 260,000. Higher than I expected, although the MSM has made such a huge deal about this otherwise virtually meaningless election.

Even at 260,000 though, that's still 30,000 less than voted in 2016 (293,684).

If anything, this just shows that less people in the district care than they did 2 years ago.

https://ballotpedia.org/Pennsylvania%27s_18th_Congressional_District

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:04 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK

  Next time you change your name,
I suggest Jack_the_Cynical

  ... or the Blindly Embittered?


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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:14 PM

I think JackThePragmatic is more accurate and has a better ring to it.


With just about 1% of the vote left to tally that they're going to drag out for a day or two, and maybe even throw a recount or two in there to keep MSM viewership up with sagging ratings over the current Russian narrative, the MSM's predictions of voter turnout was heavily overstated. It looks as though the voter turnout was only under 220,000... Not even close to the low estimates of 250,000 that they were saying. This is a steep drop in votes by over 70,000 for District 18, in a race that "everyone" was watching, according to the MSM.

This also makes one wonder how accurate their percentage of who voted for who could possibly be when the actual voter turnout was 12% less than their lowest estimates. It seems that the MSM still doesn't have their fingers on the pulse of the American voter.

Current counted votes found here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/13/us/elections/results-pe
nnsylvania-house-special-election.html






Overall, I'd say the only good news for Democrats is that I was right about people not caring. Republicans for the most part seem to be the ones that didn't go to the polls in this special election. If you look at the numbers from the last actual opposed election for this seat in 2012, the Democrats had 10,000 less votes last night than they did in 2012. The Democrats lost the election with only 36% of the vote in 2012 with 122,146 votes, 10,000 or so more than what they managed last night. (113,111 counted so far, or 92% of 2012 Democratic voter turnout).

On the other hand, Republicans won in 2012 with 64% of the vote at 216,727 total votes, 100,000 more than what they managed last night. (112,532 counted so far, or 52% of 2012 Republican voter turnout).

2012 Numbers found here: https://ballotpedia.org/Pennsylvania%27s_18th_Congressional_District


What this seems to mean to me is that voting is down for both parties, but it was significantly lower for Republicans. There wasn't any flipping from Democrat to Republican going on here. 8% of Democrats who previously voted chose to stay home, while 48% of Republicans who previously voted chose to stay home. A total vote decrease of around 33% (around 110,000 votes) from the last actual contested election in 2012 would suggest that this election was decided by low voter turnout rather than anybody changing sides.

Unless we get any hard statistics about actual counts of people who voted Republican in 2012 and/or 2016 who flipped to Democrat in last night's election, nobody should believe anything the MSM says about that being the case. There is no evidence of that happening here.

Congratulations on the win. Just keep in mind the numbers as the actual facts when the MSM talks about what the reasons are for this and what it might mean for the future. Don't get your hopes up too much. This race is not the crystal ball the MSM is going to frame it as.

Maybe this is the best Democratic strategy for 2018 and 2020. Saturate us with so much negative news in hopes that nobody shows up to polls anymore and that more Democrats will show up than Republicans on election day.


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