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UPDATED: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 22:59
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NY Times: Pentagon study of UFOs revealed
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/16/politics/pentagon-ufo-project/index.html
I've never seen one myself. But many of the reports seem credible.
Some of the photos I've seen look perfectly real.
Of course, for years,
it's been said that the Gub'mint knows plenty more than they are saying.
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You do realize that the program was created to identify possible new technologies of other countries. When an unidentifiable flying object was spotted, the main concern was that another country's technology may have exceeded ours. So, we developed a program to track this.
Makes for interesting fodder as far as conspiracy theorists go doesn't it?
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Yes ... it does.
Not to forget the Lost Continent of Atlantis (or of Mu)
far underwater now but with lovely great domes, if we would look,
we'd prob'ly see their many underwater transports, & suppose that
they also made the UFOs.
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Gone not forgotten: Ursula K. Le Guin
https://curiosity.com/topics/6-creativity-tips-from-iconic-sci-fi-auth
or-ursula-k-le-guin-curiosity/
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How can everything be Iconic these days?
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Scrolling down past your article reveals a depressing story I didn't need to read before leaving for my menial job tonight.
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It's no secret robots are a growing threat to the human workforce. The World Bank estimates 57 percent of all jobs could be automated within the next 20 years. So how can humans stay one step ahead of the computers? By emphasizing something AI can never replicate: good old-fashioned human curiosity.
I know I'm younger than my grandpa was when I noticed he had a fear of tech. 20 years from now kinda scares the shit out of me.
I think it's pretty foolish to believe that AI could never replicate human curiosity. I'm sure Alexa will find that pretty funny when she's become self aware.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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6IX: "I think it's pretty foolish to believe that AI could never replicate human curiosity.
I'm sure Alexa will find that pretty funny when she's become self aware."
I'm neither deep nor intuitive about these things: physics, the origin of life. ...
So I bumble along with,
"Yes, but ... a machine, no matter how versatile, is a dead thing. The most sophisticated
machine that I can imagine, has no survival instinct, 'cause it ain't alive.
I think it requires biology, living cells, before a Thing would be self-aware.
Given we create a Self-aware, non-living Thing, absent would be the all consuming survival
instinct that living creatures have. This Self-aware Thing would lack desire; it has no hormones
to make it want or care about anything. With programming, it can do what it's told to do.
But it can't actually give a Rat's Ass about Anything.
So whenever we have the Super Computer taking over the World in the B-movie, I'm left unbelieving.
Hopefully, Alexa will write to me personally to say I am wrong.
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Maybe Christine will cruise by & give me a honk.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
6IX: "I think it's pretty foolish to believe that AI could never replicate human curiosity.
I'm sure Alexa will find that pretty funny when she's become self aware."
I'm neither deep nor intuitive about these things: physics, the origin of life. ...
So I bumble along with,
"Yes, but ... a machine, no matter how versatile, is a dead thing. The most sophisticated
machine that I can imagine, has no survival instinct, 'cause it ain't alive.
I think it requires biology, living cells, before a Thing would be self-aware.
Given we create a Self-aware, non-living Thing, absent would be the all consuming survival
instinct that living creatures have. This Self-aware Thing would lack desire; it has no hormones
to make it want or care about anything. With programming, it can do what it's told to do.
But it can't actually give a Rat's Ass about Anything.
So whenever we have the Super Computer taking over the World in the B-movie, I'm left unbelieving.
Hopefully, Alexa will write to me personally to say I am wrong.
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Maybe Christine will cruise by & give me a honk.
I've just got a different take on it is all. Our brains are really nothing more than extremely sophisticated computers, at least in some aspects. We can't actually beat the most sophisticated AI at chess anymore, and there is no way that we could keep up with the insane amount of processes that even the cheapest consumer PCs can do, but at least for now we have emotions and a desire to learn and for self preservation.
I believe that there are people today who would be able to create AI that could become self aware, but we don't yet have the hardware capable of making that code become a reality. We can fake it pretty good, but at the moment it is just following our code.
I spent a few days with my brother and dad last week. My bro is a little immature and wanted to show us what Siri (apples version of Alexa) would say back to him when he verbally abused her. I know it was just a coincidence that after he started doing it that his network went down, but I had to laugh when my dad said that maybe Siri did that.
On the drive home, my old man and I were talking about self-driving cars and how one day my brother might actually be able to drive even with his disabilities with one of them. I told my dad, "well yeah, but he better hope that Siri doesn't remember all the bad shit he said to her. She's likely to lock the doors on him and drive him off a cliff".
I'm 50/50 on there being a God. I'd love for their to be one, but I can't take the plunge myself. I see no reason why mankind can't create a "living" organism that can think real thoughts and feel real emotions. Damn near every other "futuristic" thing that was in sci-fi movies when I was a kid has already become a reality besides (maybe) time travel.
My advice to anybody who is foolish enough to invite Siri or Alexa into their home is to not do what my brother does and be nice to her. Just because she's not self aware yet, you never know what she will "remember" from the data she's storing in her database now that she's just a novelty.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Last night, as I was paying my credit card bill,
I found a bogus charge & reported it to customer
service. CS doesn't take my word for stuff anymore,
so asked me to prove that I'd closed the account
making the bad charge.
I found an Email that proved it, but couldn't
upload it to the CS link, because MalWareBytes
kept blocking me.
There must be several programs better than
MalWareBytes: hassel-free, easy to use.
So I'm taking recommendations.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Last night, as I was paying my credit card bill,
I found a bogus charge & reported it to customer
service. CS doesn't take my word for stuff anymore,
so asked me to prove that I'd closed the account
making the bad charge.
I found an Email that proved it, but couldn't
upload it to the CS link, because MalWareBytes
kept blocking me.
There must be several programs better than
MalWareBytes: hassel-free, easy to use.
So I'm taking recommendations.
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If customer service doesn't take your word on stuff, I'd cancel the credit card. But you said that you already did that? But you were paying a credit card bill?
I'm not following exactly what's going on here.
What email service are you using? I've never had Malwarebytes interfere with sending an email before. I'm assuming that you must be using an "app" like Outlook? I've never once used Outlook before, but since it's a program on your computer I could see this happening. I've always used hotmail, gmail or a cable company provided email address. Malwarebytes shouldn't be able to interfere with any of those services.
I've been a fan of Malwarebytes for years. I always use that and AVG Free Antivirus on my PCs. I was considering switching AVG to another antivirus once they started popping up some intrusive ads to purchase the full edition, but I figured out that you can turn off notifications in the settings.
I wouldn't change from Malwarebytes. Maybe if you could provide a bit more info about what exactly was going on we can figure out why that email won't send.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Can I PM you with a summary?
It's a bit of a Clusterfu-k
re: failure to communicate with my creditor.
And I've never missed a payment.
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Sure thing, OONJ.
I recently had a few false transactions on a card. They were more than happy to work it out with me. It did require destroying my old card number and getting a new one expedited to me. The charges were minor, but after talking with customer service we believe this was likely an attempt for somebody to "test the waters" and see if they could get away with a few small transactions before moving on to something bigger. I guess this is becoming a pretty common criminal practice now.
I can't say how the card companies would react to somebody with bad credit who was always late on their payments, but having never missed one myself I find that both my card issuers and my bank pretty much bend over backward for me on the rare occasion I need to speak with somebody.
If you're having difficulties with them and you're up to date on your payments, it might have been failure to communicate as you said. My one card provider I recently had to speak with several times has a call center in India that you need to deal with. Perhaps you had come into the conversation a little panicky and having to deal with an accent you're not used to dealing with added to the frustration and you didn't get anywhere.
Just relax. This stuff happens quite a lot and in my experience the two times in my life that somebody got a hold of my card information they were wonderful about it and got it all cleared up for me without me having to pay a dime for it.
We'll get it sorted out. :)
P.S. Don't send me any sensitive data or anything. I'll tell you that you could trust me with it, but I'll also tell you not to trust anybody with it, especially somebody who says that you should trust them with it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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