annoying things in firefly
POSTED BY: est120
UPDATED: Thursday, March 17, 2005 20:31
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When I first watched the show, I pretty much fast-forwarded through the entire episode of "Safe." The acting from the extras was awful; the whole "witch" subtext was just plain dumb; the black nurse was such a Gone With the Wind stereotype; the dance scene had nice music but was corny; and there are too many plot holes in that ep to make it enjoyable.
I think a few of the early episodes of the season weren't as good as they could have been, but I chalk that up to growing pains. As the season went on the eps improved, but "Safe" is one that will continue to annoy me.
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- Visible lasers and all things holo. What exactly is the light reflecting off of eh? I know, dramatic device, but still...
- Chinese phrases. Sometimes these are good and sometimes they're so out of place it's ridiculous.
- Some of the 'old west' speak is a bit out of place too, particularly Zoe's. But then this was a first season so you have to give the cast time to perfect it ;)
- The Message plot holes. Good ep but could have been an absolute classic.
On the subject of CGI, I would imagine things such as the chandelier in Shindig are done in CG simply because it's now cheaper. And the CG in Firefly is exceptionally good anyway so I'm surprised anyone is complaining.
The Mal adrenaline injection - is there a particular reason why this bothered you? I don't know anything about it's medical feasibility but, for me, it's the single best scene of the entire series.
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Originally posted by nedward:
I think I agree with the Purple one. (No, not about Janis Joplin!) Petaline realistically shooting Rance Burgess is effective because it's unexpected in the general context of TV today. See also Mal shooting Lawrence Dobson, Mal shoving Crow in the engine...
putting crow through the engine was more comical than violent, in my opinion. dobson was violent, but necessary seeing as there were so many pressing matters that needed to be dealt with such as the reavers and zoe being shot (although she had armor on, she must have at least been somewhat hurt). shooting burgess, though, seemed so much for revenge. the look on mal's face is one of vengeance, not justice. it seems overly cruel and quite shocking to do in front of a baby (albeit, though the baby certainly does not comprehend it and probably will not remember it anyway).
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I've always hated Alan's delivery of the "We've only been, you know, giving each other significant glances..." line in OMR.
LOVE Alan, and Wash, but just don't like how he said that line.
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Originally posted by est120:
shooting burgess, though, seemed so much for revenge. the look on mal's face is one of vengeance, not justice.
I didn't find Petaline's actions hard to understand at all. Burgess, had stolen her baby, killed and injured her friends, nearly destroyed her home, showed no remorse about any of it, and, if left alive, would do the same thing all over again. There was no local law to turn him over to for prosecution. He was a threat as long as he was alive. A clear case of pre-emptive self-defense. And if she and Mal enjoyed it a little, all the better.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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I'm all new and whatnot, never heard of Firefly 3 weeks ago, when my sister-in-law gave me the DVD set as an early Christmas gift. I love the show, 3 eps in particular were the best made-for-TV SF I've seen. But there's a lot to be annoyed about.
How about how easy it is for the crew to escape all the time? Take Ariel as the worst example -- sure, maybe they could get out of the hospital with River. But there's two wacky-evil guys right behind them with gizmos that melt all your capillaries but they don't have anybody in orbit they can radio to stop Serenity once they get out atmo? Mal's so busy scaring Jayne for five minutes it never once occurs to him there might be pursuit? Guess it doesn't have to, because inexplicably there ain't any.
There are other examples, starting with "Serenity" and that cry-baby ruse the Alliance goes for hook-line.
Then there's "Trash". Saffron has been gone *six years*, but her security entry codes are still valid, despite the fact that she disappeared with the former security chief who later turned up dead, for crying out loud. I change my passwords every two weeks, but in the future it's cool to leave them the same for years on end?
Anyway, I say that as someone who loves the show, even these eps, but some of these things are easily avoidable continuity problems or nonsensical plot devices.
Pain Don't Hurt
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well......one of the themes explored was:
Love can blind.
On the note of "Ariel" which rmains my third fav ep. The "getaway" vehicle was disguised as an ambulance for one. Another thing is that Serenity is cargo transport, of which was very common in the setting. They would have no reason to pick one at random to stop. The authorities really didn't know that Simon and River were on the ship, despite their attempts to find out otherwise. They simply didn't know where to look.
"Your mouth is talking. Might wanna see to that"
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I hear you, and I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, o' course, but....
There's a bounty of 200,000 on River's head. Some seriously badass dudes, with seriously badass resources, are after her -- so badass they don't think twice about melting whole squads of Feds into piles of red goo just because they talked to River.
And in "Jaynesville," it seemed ridiculously easy for the backwater mining dude to put a "Ground Lock" on Serenity.
But the bald badass dudes can't, say, restrict off-planet launches from Ariel for an hour or something while the authorities review ship records? They can't "ground lock" all ships in the vicinity of the hospital? Maybe this would be too conspicuous, but those guys didn't strike me as being overly worried about conspicuousness -- like I said, they wasted a whole sqaud of Feds.
On the blindness of love, I hear you -- maybe the security codes were left that way just in case Saffron returned, 'cuz her husband wanted it so bad. But it wouldn't be hard to add a line like "I was alerted to your presence as soon as you walked through the door" or somesuch.
Anyway, enough obsessing -- the show does kick ass in general, regardless of any of this.....
Pain Don't Hurt
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Quote:While I'm right with you on some of the minor stuff, this one I don't agree with, but that's because I made different assumptions than you did.
Originally posted by Saztronic:
Then there's "Trash". Saffron has been gone *six years*, but her security entry codes are still valid, despite the fact that she disappeared with the former security chief who later turned up dead, for crying out loud. I change my passwords every two weeks, but in the future it's cool to leave them the same for years on end?
I assumed that she had an inside person who "gave" her the latest rotation of passwords/codes. She knew the set up, in general, because that kind of thing you don't change. But - again - just my assumption...
Oh, and wasn't it a programmer that she left with (who later turned up dead)?
Rabit
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Originally posted by maugwai:
As for annoyances - The captain not telling Tracey his plan kind of bothers me. If he'd explained it, Tracey might not have ended up dead.
While I agree with you on this for the most part (98% of me) the other part (the remaining 2%, that is) thinks that Tracey should have trusted Mal enough to know he wouldn't turn him in. Tracey was just assuming Mal was more like him (Tracey) in that he (Tracey) would have turned Mal in.
The thing that reeeaaalllly annoys me in all of Firefly is Tracey saying "THANKyew" several times. It just makes me bug.
Mal-licious
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