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Eliza Dushku describes how she was raped at 12 yrs old in Hollywood, actress would later star in 'Buffy' and Joss Whedon Dollhouse

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:22 AM

Weinstein, Weiner, Spacey, Polanski stuff continues


True Lies 1994

An Action hero James Bond style fearless, globe-trotting, terrorist-battling secret agent...Arnie.... has his life turned upside down when he discovers his wife might be having an affair with a used car salesman while terrorists smuggle nuclear war heads into the United States...

Director: James Cameron

Stared Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jamie Lee Curtis, Bill Paxton, Tia Carrere,
Eliza Dushku, Tom Arnold...


Her post


https://www.facebook.com/OfficialElizaDushku/posts/1769957739689557

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When I was 12 years old, while filming “True Lies”, I was sexually molested by Joel Kramer, one of Hollywood’s leading stunt coordinators.
Ever since, I have struggled with how and when to disclose this, if ever. At the time, I shared what happened to me with my parents, two adult friends and one of my older brothers. No one seemed ready to confront this taboo subject then, nor was I.
I am grateful to the women and men who have gone before me in recent months. The ever-growing list of sexual abuse and harassment victims who have spoken out with their truths have finally given me the ability to speak out. It has been indescribably exhausting, bottling this up inside me for all of these years.
I remember, so clearly 25 years later, how Joel Kramer made me feel special, how he methodically built my and my parents’ trust, for months grooming me; exactly how he lured me to his Miami hotel room with a promise to my parent that he would take me for a swim at the stunt crew’s hotel pool and for my first sushi meal thereafter. I remember vividly how he methodically drew the shades and turned down the lights; how he cranked up the air-conditioning to what felt like freezing levels, where exactly he placed me on one of the two hotel room beds, what movie he put on the television (Coneheads); how he disappeared in the bathroom and emerged, naked, bearing nothing but a small hand towel held flimsy at his mid-section. I remember what I was wearing (my favorite white denim shorts, thankfully, secured enough for me to keep on). I remember how he laid me down on the bed, wrapped me with his gigantic writhing body, and rubbed all over me. He spoke these words: “You’re not going to sleep on me now sweetie, stop pretending you’re sleeping,” as he rubbed harder and faster against my catatonic body. When he was ‘finished’, he suggested, “I think we should be careful…,” [about telling anyone] he meant. I was 12, he was 36.
I remember how afterwards, the taxi driver stared at me in the rear view mirror when Joel Kramer put me on his lap in the backseat and clutched me and grew aroused again; and how my eyes never left the driver’s eyes during that long ride over a Miami bridge, back to my hotel and parent. I remember how Joel Kramer grew cold with me in the ensuing weeks, how everything felt different on the set.
And I remember how soon-after, when my tough adult female friend (in whom I had confided my terrible secret on the condition of a trade that she let me drive her car around the Hollywood Hills) came out to the set to visit and face him, later that very same day, by no small coincidence, I was injured from a stunt-gone-wrong on the Harrier jet. With broken ribs, I spent the evening in the hospital. To be clear, over the course of those months rehearsing and filming True Lies, it was Joel Kramer who was responsible for my safety on a film that at the time broke new ground for action films. On a daily basis he rigged wires and harnesses on my 12 year old body. My life was literally in his hands: he hung me in the open air, from a tower crane, atop an office tower, 25+ stories high. Whereas he was supposed to be my protector, he was my abuser.



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Why speak out now? I was 12, he was 36. It is incomprehensible. Why didn’t an adult on the set find his predatory advances strange — that over-the-top special attention he gave me. Fairly early on he nicknamed me “Jailbait” and brazenly called me by this name in a sick flirty way in front of others (

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Weinstein, Weiner, Spacey, Polanski stuff continues


True Lies 1994

An Action hero James Bond style fearless, globe-trotting, terrorist-battling secret agent...Arnie.... has his life turned upside down when he discovers his wife might be having an affair with a used car salesman while terrorists smuggle nuclear war heads into the United States...

Director: James Cameron

Stared Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jamie Lee Curtis, Bill Paxton, Tia Carrere,
Eliza Dushku, Tom Arnold...


Her post


https://www.facebook.com/OfficialElizaDushku/posts/1769957739689557

Quote:

When I was 12 years old, while filming “True Lies”, I was sexually molested by Joel Kramer, one of Hollywood’s leading stunt coordinators.
Ever since, I have struggled with how and when to disclose this, if ever. At the time, I shared what happened to me with my parents, two adult friends and one of my older brothers. No one seemed ready to confront this taboo subject then, nor was I.
I am grateful to the women and men who have gone before me in recent months. The ever-growing list of sexual abuse and harassment victims who have spoken out with their truths have finally given me the ability to speak out. It has been indescribably exhausting, bottling this up inside me for all of these years.
I remember, so clearly 25 years later, how Joel Kramer made me feel special, how he methodically built my and my parents’ trust, for months grooming me; exactly how he lured me to his Miami hotel room with a promise to my parent that he would take me for a swim at the stunt crew’s hotel pool and for my first sushi meal thereafter. I remember vividly how he methodically drew the shades and turned down the lights; how he cranked up the air-conditioning to what felt like freezing levels, where exactly he placed me on one of the two hotel room beds, what movie he put on the television (Coneheads); how he disappeared in the bathroom and emerged, naked, bearing nothing but a small hand towel held flimsy at his mid-section. I remember what I was wearing (my favorite white denim shorts, thankfully, secured enough for me to keep on). I remember how he laid me down on the bed, wrapped me with his gigantic writhing body, and rubbed all over me. He spoke these words: “You’re not going to sleep on me now sweetie, stop pretending you’re sleeping,” as he rubbed harder and faster against my catatonic body. When he was ‘finished’, he suggested, “I think we should be careful…,” [about telling anyone] he meant. I was 12, he was 36.
I remember how afterwards, the taxi driver stared at me in the rear view mirror when Joel Kramer put me on his lap in the backseat and clutched me and grew aroused again; and how my eyes never left the driver’s eyes during that long ride over a Miami bridge, back to my hotel and parent. I remember how Joel Kramer grew cold with me in the ensuing weeks, how everything felt different on the set.
And I remember how soon-after, when my tough adult female friend (in whom I had confided my terrible secret on the condition of a trade that she let me drive her car around the Hollywood Hills) came out to the set to visit and face him, later that very same day, by no small coincidence, I was injured from a stunt-gone-wrong on the Harrier jet. With broken ribs, I spent the evening in the hospital. To be clear, over the course of those months rehearsing and filming True Lies, it was Joel Kramer who was responsible for my safety on a film that at the time broke new ground for action films. On a daily basis he rigged wires and harnesses on my 12 year old body. My life was literally in his hands: he hung me in the open air, from a tower crane, atop an office tower, 25+ stories high. Whereas he was supposed to be my protector, he was my abuser.



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Why speak out now? I was 12, he was 36. It is incomprehensible. Why didn’t an adult on the set find his predatory advances strange — that over-the-top special attention he gave me. Fairly early on he nicknamed me “Jailbait” and brazenly called me by this na

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:13 PM


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I thank her for her candor, her sharing, and for PN posting this ...


Huh ?

Did I miss something ? PN ?

Kudos to Eliza. Just more evidence that this has been going on forever, and that claims of everyone not knowing are beyond ludicrous.

Humans are sexual animals. We have to be, otherwise we may not have evolved. For anyone to deny that there's a biological attraction to the opposite sex ( for the most part ) or that attractive members of society don't get more attention is denial of reality. Denial of our very DNA. Of what makes us human. Now, doesn't mean we are compelled to act on every single impulse. To the contrary, that's not what makes for a civil society. We ARE better than that, if we choose to be.

It's funny to see those who'd claim otherwise.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:54 PM

What is going on here isn't about sex, it's about POWER. If Weinstein really thought he was THAT attractive, he would have gone after women of equal caliber: women who really COULD say "no".

Going after children, subordinates, the mentally disabled ... it's all about power, and using that power to force sex.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Monday, January 15, 2018 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What is going on here isn't about sex, it's about POWER. If Weinstein really thought he was THAT attractive, he would have gone after women of equal caliber: women who really COULD say "no".

Going after children, subordinates, the mentally disabled ... it's all about power, and using that power to force sex.
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You don't seem to understand what sex means to a predator - certainly not what you are implying.
Women of equal caliber are not attractive. They have wrinkles, saggy boobs, stretch marks, overstretched bungs, and often speak without being asked and without appropriate deference.
Women who are as attractive as the predator are nubile, ripe, fresh, inexperienced, properly demure, and speak when prompted. Just because this describes pubescents, children, mentally disabled, and some subordinates is of no negative import.

And who asked you to speak, anyhow? Your loudmouth opinionated act is not attractive to predators.

If it was about power, then the ugly girls would get some, too. That is just Liberal psychobabble masquerading as empowerment.

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Monday, January 15, 2018 1:15 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

If it was about power, then the ugly girls would get some, too. That is just Liberal psychobabble masquerading as empowerment.



But isn't physical appearance a status symbol, a high commodity to be valued ? If so, then " seducing " a pretty girl is far more significant than one of more 'common' appearance. The true, rare beauty of a young girl, that stuff has been romanticized and valued through out history. Helen of Troy and such. If she were just some random Velma, , who the hell would care? But no, she was a Daphne, a rare beauty, to be fought for , no matter how many lives were lost.


And yes, ' seducing ' is used in jest, because it's really intimidating and cornering, and by no means winning over her affection.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Monday, January 15, 2018 6:49 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If it was about power, then the ugly girls would get some, too. That is just Liberal psychobabble masquerading as empowerment.


But isn't physical appearance a status symbol, a high commodity to be valued ? If so, then " seducing " a pretty girl is far more significant than one of more 'common' appearance. The true, rare beauty of a young girl, that stuff has been romanticized and valued through out history. Helen of Troy and such. If she were just some random Velma, , who the hell would care? But no, she was a Daphne, a rare beauty, to be fought for , no matter how many lives were lost.

And yes, ' seducing ' is used in jest, because it's really intimidating and cornering, and by no means winning over her affection.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

If you define "seduce" as something like: score, conquer, tag, tail, nail, notch the bedpost/belt/totem, hit, strange, then you would be even more on target. And also in alignment with the sarcasm/caricature/satire evident in my post.

And I agree you, I, most here would not see it as seducing, however I have serious doubt that predators see it the same as us.

And I am dismayed that the old "it's about power, not sex" is rolled out, as a disservice to the victims.

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Monday, January 15, 2018 7:23 PM

Ok, it's about PREDATORY SEX. Happy now?

If these guys really thought they were "all that" ... powerful, attractive, masterful ... they would want to attract equally powerful and resourceful women as validation of their own status. That they always pick the weakest and most vulnerable tells me that they're really not all THAT sure of their status.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
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Monday, January 15, 2018 8:20 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ok, it's about PREDATORY SEX. Happy now?

If these guys really thought they were "all that" ... powerful, attractive, masterful ... they would want to attract equally powerful and resourceful women as validation of their own status. That they always pick the weakest and most vulnerable tells me that they're really not all THAT sure of their status.



I don't know if it's beneficial to try to psychoanalyze the obscenely wealthy and powerful with the same standards that you would your average person.

These people are so fucked up in the head, who knows what is going through their minds and what kinks rule their behaviors.

Hell... maybe Weinstein himself was being blackmailed to continue doing what he had done when somebody even more obscenely rich and powerful caught him in the act and had evidence of it that would destroy him? Why would they do it? I dunno. Maybe blackmailing powerful people was the only way that they could get off anymore.

You want to see the absolute worst humanity has to offer, don't look down. Look up.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:59 AM

What about Aziz Ansari ? This sounds more like regret sexual encounter by the girl, who wanted more cuddling, and less...well, oral, yet went along w/ it. My god, have women forgotten how to say ' no ' ? Was she so enamored w/ being near a ' star ' that she gave in to his requests ( note: not demands ) instead of just getting up and excusing herself from his apt ?

Catherine Deneuve is spot on... there's a legit point to this #MeToo stuff, and then there's the witch hunt that so many are on the verge of turning it into.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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