Tax Cuts
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Quote:There you go again. Already giving your instantaneous surrender to your doom. What year did the GOP control less than 1/3 of the Senate?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It will never pass so long as there are at least 34 GOP Senators.
Why didn't it ever pass when there wasn't?
Simple.
Democrats don't really want it either. They just get the benefit of pretending that they do.
Edited an hour later: Times up, 6ixStringJack. You fail. I'll answer my own question: during the Great Depression, when Democrats cleaned up the rank stupidity of the GOP, and during the booming '60s, the time when Trump thinks America was great and he was not yet a fat glutton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power_in_the_United_States_ove
r_time
In 1933, the Roosevelt administration established a national minimum wage. However, the US Supreme Court, full of Republicans, declared the act unconstitutional, and the minimum wage was abolished. Roosevelt had to wait for Republican Justices on the Supreme Court to die before he could sign another minimum wage law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:So is G. When I look at what G defends (the wealthy, low or no inheritance tax) plus his lack of real-world knowledge about the state of the economy (he had no idea that many more young people were living with "mom and dad") and his being here day and night... clearly, he's not working a job that he worries about losing .... I think my guess that he inherited his dad's company - and a position in it where he doesn't have to produce .... is pretty close to the mark.
In case you forgot that Second was obscenely rich ...
Unlike SECOND's use of being rich as a badge of "I know about the rich because I am one", G stays pretty quiet about his financial situation, but he's clearly a guy with no money worries.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is a oligarchy
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Quote:Signym previously wrote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:So is G. When I look at what G defends (the wealthy, low or no inheritance tax) plus his lack of real-world knowledge about the state of the economy (he had no idea that many more young people were living with "mom and dad") and his being here day and night... clearly, he's not working a job that he worries about losing .... I think my guess that he inherited his dad's company - and a position in it where he doesn't have to produce .... is pretty close to the mark.
In case you forgot that Second was obscenely rich ...
Unlike SECOND's use of being rich as a badge of "I know about the rich because I am one", G stays pretty quiet about his financial situation, but he's clearly a guy with no money worries.
Quote:This comparison of Democrats and Republicans to Tweedledee/Tweedledum is a typical Signym load of crap. If you actually knew anything truthful about American history, or even 2016 Campaign promises, you would know that Democrats would raise taxes and Republicans would lower them, and Trump would lie and say his taxes would not be lowered. And Trump did lie.
The majority know that they're getting screwed. That's why they voted for Trump: to turn over the tables of the money-changers in the temple. If that doesn't happen, there will be another election.
ETA: And when people get tired of being ping-ponged between Tweedledum and Tweedledee ... oh, THAT will be the day!
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/sep/28/donald-trump/d
onald-trumps-dubious-claim-his-tax-plan-wont-bene/
It is not ping-pong between Dem and Rep. The game is over and the Republicans won. There won't be another game so long as there are at least 34 Republican Senators. A mild change (switching to 51 Democrats to 49 Republican Senators in another election) is NOT enough to actually change what just happened in tax reform because of the ancient and venerable rules of the game in the Senate, which are:
To override Trump's veto of any tax reform "reformation" by Democrats, "a vetoed bill can become law if two-thirds of the Members voting in each chamber agree, by recorded vote, a quorum being present, to repass the bill and thereby override the veto of the President." That cannot happen until Democrats control two-thirds of Congress and that has not happened since the 1960's.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS22654.pdf
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So thanks to Bill in ninety-nine,
Who shipped our jobs out down the line...
...Strings attached, we come to blows.
No, we won't make it here no more.
Thats pretty good!
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Originally posted by second:Quote:There you go again. Already giving your instantaneous surrender to your doom. What year did the GOP control less than 1/3 of the Senate?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It will never pass so long as there are at least 34 GOP Senators.
Why didn't it ever pass when there wasn't?
Simple.
Democrats don't really want it either. They just get the benefit of pretending that they do.
Edited an hour later: Times up, 6ixStringJack. You fail. I'll answer my own question: during the Great Depression, when Democrats cleaned up the rank stupidity of the GOP, and during the booming '60s, the time when Trump thinks America was great and he was not yet a fat glutton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power_in_the_United_States_ove
r_time
In 1933, the Roosevelt administration established a national minimum wage. However, the US Supreme Court, full of Republicans, declared the act unconstitutional, and the minimum wage was abolished. Roosevelt had to wait for Republican Justices on the Supreme Court to die before he could sign another minimum wage law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
LOL. You fail, smartass. But nice try on the history lesson though.
Google the 89th Congress.
Hope daddy didn't pay too much for that Ivy League edumacation.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:?????
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:There you go again. Already giving your instantaneous surrender to your doom. What year did the GOP control less than 1/3 of the Senate?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It will never pass so long as there are at least 34 GOP Senators.
Why didn't it ever pass when there wasn't?
Simple.
Democrats don't really want it either. They just get the benefit of pretending that they do.
Edited an hour later: Times up, 6ixStringJack. You fail. I'll answer my own question: during the Great Depression, when Democrats cleaned up the rank stupidity of the GOP, and during the booming '60s, the time when Trump thinks America was great and he was not yet a fat glutton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power_in_the_United_States_ove
r_time
In 1933, the Roosevelt administration established a national minimum wage. However, the US Supreme Court, full of Republicans, declared the act unconstitutional, and the minimum wage was abolished. Roosevelt had to wait for Republican Justices on the Supreme Court to die before he could sign another minimum wage law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States
y
LOL. You fail, smartass. But nice try on the history lesson though.
Google the 89th Congress.
Hope daddy didn't pay too much for that Ivy League edumacation.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
He already mentioned the 60s, which included 1965/1966.
Whutchu taukkin about, Willis?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:?????
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:There you go again. Already giving your instantaneous surrender to your doom. What year did the GOP control less than 1/3 of the Senate?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It will never pass so long as there are at least 34 GOP Senators.
Why didn't it ever pass when there wasn't?
Simple.
Democrats don't really want it either. They just get the benefit of pretending that they do.
Edited an hour later: Times up, 6ixStringJack. You fail. I'll answer my own question: during the Great Depression, when Democrats cleaned up the rank stupidity of the GOP, and during the booming '60s, the time when Trump thinks America was great and he was not yet a fat glutton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power_in_the_United_States_ove
r_time
In 1933, the Roosevelt administration established a national minimum wage. However, the US Supreme Court, full of Republicans, declared the act unconstitutional, and the minimum wage was abolished. Roosevelt had to wait for Republican Justices on the Supreme Court to die before he could sign another minimum wage law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States
y
LOL. You fail, smartass. But nice try on the history lesson though.
Google the 89th Congress.
Hope daddy didn't pay too much for that Ivy League edumacation.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
He already mentioned the 60s, which included 1965/1966.
Whutchu taukkin about, Willis?
My bad. I didn't even see the small blurb about the 60's in there. honestly, I only read up until this part:
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Times up, 6ixStringJack. You fail. I'll answer my own question: during the Great Depression,
The problem is, if the Democrats had a supermajority today the increases in minimum wage that Second is talking about would come at the price of the extreme left getting their way on everything.
Shit... it probably wouldn't be long before it was made illegal for two white people to have kids together.
Fun fact. The Democrats of today are NOT the Democrats of the 60s. I'd be one if they were.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Deflection much? I noticed that you didn't deny what I guessed, so it must be true.
Unlike SECOND's use of being rich as a badge of "I know about the rich because I am one", G stays pretty quiet about his financial situation, but he's clearly a guy with no money worries.- SIGNY
You forgot that I'm short, fat and smelly too.- G
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is a oligarchy
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A lot of people live in California that aren't 1%.
Unlike Second has said above, I don't envy wealth. I don't hate middle class people who are well off either. It's the obscenely rich that I do not like.
Second likes to pretend that he's a good person, and if only the stupid proletariat would vote Democrats all of their problems will be solved, but since the 99% are so stupid this will never happen he will just enjoy his obscene wealth, flaunt it in other people's faces constantly and do no good with it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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For one in two Americans, those in the bottom half of the income pile, income actually shrank on Reagan’s watch. In 1980, the year he was elected, they earned $16,371 a year on average, in today’s dollars, according to the World Wealth and Income Database. By 1988, Reagan’s last year in office, they had to make do with $16,268.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/26/business/economy/tax-cuts-incomes.h
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