Tax Cuts
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Quote:To be fair, most of the Jaywalking bits were done in California. Californians really are that stupid, which includes those who move there.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
One of the Senators voting against the Tax Bill was Bernie, just in case you need that explained to you, AURaptor. I never can know how little you know.
@second - of COURSE he voted against it , you imbecile ! I know so much more than you can imagine... but that's not the issue here. It's the 'dumb-masses' , who likely WERE Bernie supporters ( one girl in particular ) who don't know what in the hell they're for.
2 different videos, 2 different groups, same conclusion. Meanwhile, you offer up a Lay Leno video ? Really ? As proof of what, exactly ? I doubt very much that Jay's put out 1000 such videos, or even talked to 1000 folks on these ' man on the street' interviews. Most of , if not all were likely staged. C'mon, it's Jay Leno. Everyone knew he was a comedian, back when he was doing this stuff... don't be that naive.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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Quote:It’s not just Leno showing that Americans don’t understand even the minimum of what they must in order to govern themselves. From my experience, the majority of voters can’t recognize knowledge or virtue in Congressmen and therefore they elected a Congress that’s avaricious. You might hope that checks and balances can restrain the greed? That depends on the voters recognizing what happened and then acting.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
One of the Senators voting against the Tax Bill was Bernie, just in case you need that explained to you, AURaptor. I never can know how little you know.
@second - of COURSE he voted against it , you imbecile ! I know so much more than you can imagine... but that's not the issue here. It's the 'dumb-masses' , who likely WERE Bernie supporters ( one girl in particular ) who don't know what in the hell they're for.
2 different videos, 2 different groups, same conclusion. Meanwhile, you offer up a Lay Leno video ? Really ? As proof of what, exactly ? I doubt very much that Jay's put out 1000 such videos, or even talked to 1000 folks on these ' man on the street' interviews. Most of , if not all were likely staged. C'mon, it's Jay Leno. Everyone knew he was a comedian, back when he was doing this stuff... don't be that naive.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
If a Republican Congress passes a greedy tax bill, the majority of voters won’t remove their Congressman because they feel that it is not their duty. The majority of voters don’t really act responsible for the choices they made when they voted. The majority don’t reverse their decisions when they prove wrong. (Obviously some voters change their minds or else Congressmen would be reelected 100% of the time rather than 97%, but not nearly enough of them change to exclude bad men from a well functioning government.)
I have a long quote about what’s wrong with average Americans’ thinking. In my opinion it explains why bad Congressmen can screw them, have a voting majority of them not understand they were screwed, and Congress gets away with it:
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In the aftermath of the American Revolution, liberals began to argue, in opposition to the older view that “public virtue is the only foundation of republics,” in the words of John Adams, that a proper system of constitutional checks and balances would “make it advantageous even for bad men to act for the public good,” as James Wilson put it. According to John Taylor, “an avaricious society can form a government able to defend itself against the avarice of its members” by enlisting the “interest of vice…on the side of virtue.” Virtue lay in the “principles of government,” Taylor argued, not in the “evanescent qualities of individuals.” The institutions and “principles of a society may be virtuous, though the individuals composing it are vicious.”
The trouble with this agreeable paradox of a virtuous society based on vicious individuals is that liberals didn’t really mean it. They took for granted a good deal more in the way of private virtue than they were willing to acknowledge. Even today, liberals who adhere to this minimal view of citizenship smuggle a certain amount of citizenship between the cracks of their free-market ideology. Milton Friedman himself admits that a liberal society requires a “minimum degree of literacy and knowledge,” along with a “widespread acceptance of some common set of values.” It is not clear that our society can meet even these minimal conditions, as things stand today; but it has always been clear, in any case, that a liberal society needs more virtue than Friedman allows for. A system that relies so heavily on the concept of rights presupposes individuals who respect the righNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
So the problem with democracy is capitalism.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is a oligarchy
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Quote:The problem with democracy is that my class is out-smarting the other 99%. That tax cut bill shows how the 1% can out-maneuver and get their way by befuddling a majority of voters. The majority think they are getting an okay deal, pretty much their fair share. They aren't using the good sense that god gave them to understand how much they have been screwed or to fight back at the next election. I'm sure not going to take up the fight against what benefits me; the majority will have to argue and vote for themselves and their class. Since I'm outnumbered 99 to 1, it ought to be an easy fight at the polls if only the 99 would try a little bit harder to think.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So the problem with democracy is capitalism.
Quote:http://bit.ly/2DVGSMS
If we can surmount the false polarizations now generated by the politics of gender and race, we may find that the real divisions are still those of class. “Back to basics” could mean a return to class warfare (since it is precisely the basics that our elites reject as hopelessly outmoded) or at least to a politics in which class became the overriding issue. Needless to say, the elites that set the tone of American politics, even when they disagree about everything else, have a common stake in suppressing a politics of class. Much will depend on whether communitarians continue to acquiesce in this attempt to keep class issues out of politics or whether they will come to see that gross inequalities, as populists have always understood, are incompatible with any form of community that would now be recognized as desirable and that everything depends, therefore, on closing the gap between elites and the rest of the nation.
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Quote:The majority know that they're getting screwed. That's why they voted for Trump: to turn over the tables of the money-changers in the temple. If that doesn't happen, there will be another election.
The majority think they are getting an okay deal
ETA: And when people get tired of being ping-ponged between Tweedledum and Tweedledee ... oh, THAT will be the day!
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is a oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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In case you forgot that Second was obscenely rich and that he's going to benefit because of how stupid the 99% are, two posts above this you can read his daily reminder to us of those alleged facts for 12-26-2017.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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We will never get a fair deal if the winning prezidential candidates are alwayz rich or supported by the rich.
I had hope for chanje with Obama, but it wuz too eazy for him to blow it. Even if he had good intentionz at the beginning, being surrounded by rich peeple during hiz campane, then appointing the rich to hiz cabinet and being obstructed by The Party uv the Rich disillusioned me.
It'll be sum time after cowz, pigz and chickenz rize up and overthrow the Meat Lordz that the downtrodden human cattle realize they can win by sheer numberz.
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Originally posted by JO753:
We will never get a fair deal if the winning prezidential candidates are alwayz rich or supported by the rich.
I had hope for chanje with Obama, but it wuz too eazy for him to blow it. Even if he had good intentionz at the beginning, being surrounded by rich peeple during hiz campane, then appointing the rich to hiz cabinet and being obstructed by The Party uv the Rich disillusioned me.
It'll be sum time after cowz, pigz and chickenz rize up and overthrow the Meat Lordz that the downtrodden human cattle realize they can win by sheer numberz.
I endorse this message.
I'm glad to see you come around J0.
I personally don't believe for a second that Obama was any different than any of the rest of them in the beginning, but I'm glad to see that you're not even claiming that was the case anymore.
I'll even go so far as to say that I probably got caught up in the politics too much myself and thought that Trump would bring about change that we needed, but it's probably going to end up being the same old shit for another 4 to 8 years.
I won't say I was duped. I certainly wasn't going to vote for Hillary. But count me a little underwhelmed by the last year. Aside from some idiot SJW types being knocked down a peg or two, and going back to calling a terrorist a terrorist, nothing has really changed. I keep thinking eventually one day Trump might actually get something accomplished that is good that he can hang his hat on, but it just never happens.
The people will never rise against the machine J0. Those with the true power have learned many lessons over the decades and centuries and they know how to slowly take things away and give us other less valuable things to occupy our time in place of them.
People like being comfortable, even if they have to be uncomfortable to be comfortable. What I'm trying to say is that it would have to be a hundred times worse than it is now for any sort of revolution to ever happen.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:6ixStringJack, you have to be reminded constantly because everything you write here every goddamn day just screams out your ignorance of how America works and your pathological envy of the rich. Don't envy, instead, exploit the rich like I would Texas natural gas fields. Drill into the rich's bank accounts and drain their money. I'll give you a perfectly simple example that helps you understand what you don't and also bashes the new tax bill.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In case you forgot that Second was obscenely rich and that he's going to benefit because of how stupid the 99% are, two posts above this you can read his daily reminder to us of those alleged facts for 12-26-2017.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Your life would be changed if the minimum wage was raised to $21 per hour, would it not? The GOP is opposed to the minimum wage, is it not? It "worries" that jobs would be lost if the minimum wage is raised. What it really worries about is that bosses of small businesses would have to pay more to employees. Let's give the GOP something to really worry about:
Lower the minimum wage to $7 per hour. The bosses of small business love that. The GOP loves that, but the twist that raises wages to $21/hour is to have the Federal Government also pay each of those minimum job holders $14/hr in supplemental income, where the wealthy (everyone in the top 1%) pay a huge tax for the supplemental income. The GOP would hate that with a white hot passion. It will never pass so long as there are at least 34 GOP Senators.
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It will never pass so long as there are at least 34 GOP Senators.
Why didn't it ever pass when there wasn't?
Simple.
Democrats don't really want it either. They just get the benefit of pretending that they do.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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