The Last Jedi
POSTED BY: Wishimay
UPDATED: Monday, January 22, 2018 16:42
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Quote:I am as shocked as anyone that a Star Wars movie found its way onto my Best Movies list — but I was bowled over by The Last Jedi. www.vox.com/2017-in-review/2017/12/15/16751138/best-movies-2017
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I never even watched Episode III. Like the Super Hero burnout, I was burned out on Star Wars a long time ago. To each their own, but I have no interest in seeing any of the new SW/Disney cash grab. Not even for free on my Kodi.
The Last Jedi is beautiful to look at and keeps its eye on the relationships between characters and how they communicate with one another, in addition to the bigger galactic story. The same characters are back, but they seem infused with new life, and the galaxy with a new kind of hope. The movie’s best details are in the strong bonds that develop between characters, and I left the film with the realization that for the first time in my life, I loved a Star Wars movie. Now I understand the magic.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Wow, you guys are selling it. It must be decent.
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I haven't seen it yet but the reviews have gone from, "this is the greatest movie in the history of film", to "this is a rip off of The Empire Strikes Back". I'll judge for myself.
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https://filmcrithulk.blog/2017/12/15/the-force-belongs-to-us-the-last-
jedis-beautiful-refocusing-of-star-wars/
I knew literally nothing about THE LAST JEDI going in. And if I didn’t like it, I probably would have been very quiet about it. But then a thing happened that only happens when your brain is caught on fire by a lovely movie… I couldn’t stop talking about it. And suddenly I was talking with people who had some different reactions, but also complex ones. And in those discussions I found that there was nothing less at stake then the entire meaning of STAR WARS all together… So let’s get spoilery and into this shit, shall we?
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I’ve made my feelings about The Force Awakens quite clear before. http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/28/star-wars-the-force-alluded-to
To sum them up, I think J.J. has always been a talented filmmaker with an incredible casting eye, quite adept at imbuing a given moment with energy and emotion, but it’s always just that: a moment. There’s never a larger context. Carol Markus will scream as her father dies then the entire movie will go on as if it never happened. It’s all bits of affectation that excite and delight, and as far as meaning goes, it’s all promise and deep questions and lingering intrigue that pull you in deep, deep, deep… but, you know, never amount to anything. And it’s not that the “answers” are bad, it’s just that they were never set up to be meaningfully answered in the first place. That’s the mystery box. That’s literally the design. He doesn’t think it matters what’s inside as long as he makes you think it’s important. He’s literally said this. And that’s what it’s always been. It’s a grift. A con. A charming way of storytelling that whispers sweet nothings in your ear and is out the window before you wake up. And in making a Episode 7, I was hoping he’d cast it aside, and in some ways he did, and in some ways doubled down on some of his worst story habits of “momentary effect” over building to a coherent point. And the lack of that point is all symbolized in that final moment, Rey standing there to hand a lightsaber to Luke. It’s not a story beat. It’s not really anything. Just someone waiting to hand a baton to someone who can figure out a way to have any of this make a lick of sense.
There’s a reason this movie begins with Luke throwing it off a cliff.
In fact there’s a number of moments in the film that seem like direct refutations to the mystery box questions that were vaguely teased as maybe kinda sorta being deeply important. Why did we think they were? Because destiny! Because Skywalkers! Because Luke I am your father! Because mysteries and answers! And so for two years the internet does what they always do with J.J. and trying to solve the unsolvable questions that were never meant to be answered in the first place. So for two years they’ve been speculating about Rey’s parentage, or Snoke’s origins, or the Knights of Ren, etc. And what does the film do in response? It definitively takes those mystery box questions and throws them off the literal and proverbial cliff. Sometimes it’s done in a funny way, sometimes in an incredulous way, but it’s always in purposeful way. Because in the end, The Last Jedi is actually about something really, really important.
And it’s going to lay the groundwork to get us there…
More at https://filmcrithulk.blog/2017/12/15/the-force-belongs-to-us-the-last-
jedis-beautiful-refocusing-of-star-wars/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sorry, I didn't get it. It wasn't bad. It WAS flippant and at times visually interesting, but I didn't feel like it had a point -for the universe or for the fandom.
I'm still processing. Will type more tomorrow.
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Quote:One critic thinks it did have a point that was not in the previous 7 movies: Rey and Rose and so many others are everything important about this movie. They are people who aren’t the sons or daughters of legends. They are people who have been discarded and stepped on. But that doesn't make them any less capable of the force, any less a jedi, any less powerful…
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Sorry, I didn't get it. It wasn't bad. It WAS flippant and at times visually interesting, but I didn't feel like it had a point -for the universe or for the fandom.
The Star Wars series’ focus on lineage and the way some all powerful family who are the most powerful force users basically controlled the fate of galaxy was… super gross. It’s everything I hate about the notion of "destiny” and “why I’m destined to be a hero!” That psychology only leads you to the kind of place where you are the asshole kid screaming DO YOU KNOW WHO MY FATHER IS!?!?! at nightclubs.
https://filmcrithulk.blog/2017/12/15/the-force-belongs-to-us-the-last-
jedis-beautiful-refocusing-of-star-wars/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
They are people who have been discarded and stepped on.
And I am ALLLL for empowerment. But...STAR WARS. The thing that always attracted me was "the force" idea. Always made a hell of a lot more sense than most religiosity. Rey goes down the hole of evil and does an infinity party trick?? Maybe there is a deeper meaning like "everything is a circle" or "you and life will go on" but it was just hollow filler for me. WHAT DOES THE FORCE MEAN, to ANYONE HERE??
Nothing really was learned and I have sooo many questions...
(((MILD SPOILERS HERE))))
WAS THE REST OF THE MOVIE AFTER THE HOLE REY'S WEIRD DAYDREAM???
WHY all the plot twists that basically just piss on fan theory??
Maybe Luke is just afraid of heights and that's why he thinks the hole is evil?
Maybe drinking green Snuffalufagus milk has made him senile or really weak??
Maybe if Luke just said to Kylo "sorry, dude, I was just stroking my light saber and it went off, you can go back to sleep" think of all the deaths that could have been avoided???
What WAS Yoda trying to say??? I'm dead and incoherent, WHEEE!
Did we REALLY need Snoke to monologue until Kylo finds some balls? STILL an emo loser! And the shirtless scene??? Put the helmet back on and I'll think about it, honey
Why Phasma...What is the point of her?? Perpetually shiny loser? Is she Snoke's concubine??....I can't imagine any other reason to keep her useless rear around??? Does the shiny suit chafe her boobs??
Were the AT-AT drivers drunk or blind??
Why did Leia think they have what they need to restart a rebellion?? They put out a distress call and *crickets*
Maybe after losing the 34th villain and 90th ship, maybe both sides eventually say "this is kind of pointless, the only winning move is not to play..."
Maybe Kylo just needs to smoke some space weed and stop being a tool for thirty seconds??
WHO THE HELL IS SNOKE AND WHY SHOULD WE CARE?????
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Just saw it, and I'll steer clear of major spoilers.
As was the case with TFA, I thought i was watching a remake of an earlier SW movie.
Great liberties were taken with - everything. Super powerful advanced tech and weapons, but ... meh, not always. Time / Space / Distance ? Apparently not a problem for ANYTHING.
Princess Mary Poppins Skywalker... :facepalm:
Can you hear me now ?
And it's really darn good luck to travel around w/ one of these things in the trunk of your Star Cruiser, just because...
I mean, seriously ! Who thinks to build and then carry around a massive hypersonic battering ram when they're flying around in space ? The Resistance literally had no idea they were going to make a run for a Helms Deep style hidden base until they happened to stumble across it while trying to figure out their next move ! And don't tell me the N.O. carries around industrial grade battering ram rays as standard gear. No freakin' way.
Oh, and bombers ?? Really ?? That have to fly directly over a ship, so close that the explosions take out the bomber itself ? Ughh! This movie made no damn sense.
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The Star Wars series’ focus on lineage and the way some all powerful family who are the most powerful force users basically controlled the fate of galaxy was… super gross. It’s everything I hate about the notion of "destiny” and “why I’m destined to be a hero!” That psychology only leads you to the kind of place where you are the asshole kid screaming DO YOU KNOW WHO MY FATHER IS!?!?! at nightclubs.
LOL...
Frem knows what I'm talking about.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I saw a pirated copy and liked it, but since you won't be seeing Episode VIII, this video won't spoil your non-experience.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I never even watched Episode III. Like the Super Hero burnout, I was burned out on Star Wars a long time ago. To each their own, but I have no interest in seeing any of the new SW/Disney cash grab. Not even for free on my Kodi.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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