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Wednesday, November 29, 2017 1:35 AM

Gutierrez won’t run for re-election, sources say, as Garcia preps bid to succeed him in Congress

Longtime Democratic U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez won’t seek re-election next year, sources said Monday night, setting off a domino effect in Chicago Latino politics.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-luis-gutierre
z-chuy-garcia-congress-story.html


Yeah, I hate this guy and his identity politics.


T

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Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:04 AM

I like Gutierez. I dont hav anything agenst identity politics either. Peepl belong to groups and thoze groups need reprezentation.

You can ritely claim that its bad for the country overall, but you cant chanje human nature overnite and you cant let the bad guyz be the only wunz utilizing this wepon.



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Thursday, November 30, 2017 7:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I like Gutierez. I dont hav anything agenst identity politics either. Peepl belong to groups and thoze groups need reprezentation.

You can ritely claim that its bad for the country overall, but you cant chanje human nature overnite and you cant let the bad guyz be the only wunz utilizing this wepon.



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http://www.7532020.com]

I do have a problem with it. It is what's being practiced now by many Trump voters; White first. Do you have a problem with that? That is identity politics.

The democrats are shaping their message and support to inner cities. This is where more votes are consolidated. They exclude the white voter that votes with them, in numbers that has allowed for the progressive advances in this country. They know we're here but they don't speak to our issues or even acknowledge us. They don't want to piss off the minorities who are angry about their circumstances. Why, because they blame Whites, all Whites.

This is some of reason Trump won and Steve Bannon has found a foothold into our politics. There are a lot of Whites pissed off about the progressive message of democrats. The one that excludes them. Bannons' voice has always been there, but because of identity politics it has made it into the White house.


T

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:20 PM

You dont need to exclude all other groups in order to address the greivansez uv 1 group.

I dont no if the Demz are failing to do that or not, but I can see how peepl can perseiv it that way.

Both partyz claim to be a 'big tent'. Lucky for the Demz, the GoP's tent now includez pedofilez and the KKK!

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
You dont need to exclude all other groups in order to address the greivansez uv 1 group.

I dont no if the Demz are failing to do that or not, but I can see how peepl can perseiv it that way.

Both partyz claim to be a 'big tent'. Lucky for the Demz, the GoP's tent now includez pedofilez and the KKK!




Yes they are JO. Identity politics is people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., forming exclusive political alliances. They move away from traditional broad-based party politics.

It explains why people who voted for Obama voted for Trump. They felt abandoned. This is one way to explain the hate on the right and left for the middle. Those who try and speak to all voters.

If you don't believe the progressive part of the democratic party hates anyone who tries to compromise, then you don't understand their platform. Many defectors from the party do. They did so because their platform is excluded. Excluded solely because they are not in the minority, and are being wrongfully blamed for the plight of the minorities.


T

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Friday, December 1, 2017 5:26 AM

Although....

I do have to admit that when it comes to this topic, T, you actually do sound very wise. Of all the things we argue about, I've never once felt that you weren't completely on the money when it comes to the plague of identity politics in the media.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, December 1, 2017 5:51 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Although....

I do have to admit that when it comes to this topic, T, you actually do sound very wise. Of all the things we argue about, I've never once felt that you weren't completely on the money when it comes to the plague of identity politics in the media.



Wonderful, except the I wasn't speaking about the media Jack. I was speaking about our political parties. That said, I would agree with anyone who suggested the media does tend to favor a left leaning agenda, but Jack, there's always a but.

So do those in our educational system including most scholars. The fact that they are very educated gives weight to what they say.

I don't like far left agendas in our press as much as I don't like them in our politics. I do find the press guilty, mostly of omitting some of the facts that may suggest other than what they believe. However, that is a far cry from reporting fake news. Besides, the press have every right not to publish information they feel is propaganda or without merit. They have a right not to be a conduit for bad or miss information.

Unfortunately that and some mistakes, leads to conspiracy theorists and alt right thinkers to claim foul. It's not anybody's fault but there own for being so ignorant and hateful of the truth.


T

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Friday, December 1, 2017 6:08 AM

It's not ignorance or hate. It's mistrust because nothing is news anymore. It's all editorials. Both "sides" are equally guilty of this. It's extremely rare that you can get any news today that isn't reported with bias. Most people are so entrenched on their own particular side that they don't even notice that it is there because they're hearing what they want to hear.

I'm looking forward to when the media slamming of Trump dies down and we can actually go back to facts and I can start jumping all over him for the bullshit he's actually doing... which I'm sure there is plenty to bitch about.

What the MSM is doing today is throwing out so much bullshit that it's impossible to keep up with any of it unless you make it a full-time job or at least a free-time consuming hobby like fantasy football (which many of you here seem to do).

Both sides deal in hate. You notice it when you watch anything from Fox News, but you don't notice it when you watch CNN. The equal and opposite can be said about JSF with both news platforms.





Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, December 1, 2017 6:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's not ignorance or hate. It's mistrust because nothing is news anymore. It's all editorials. Both "sides" are equally guilty of this. It's extremely rare that you can get any news today that isn't reported with bias. Most people are so entrenched on their own particular side that they don't even notice that it is there because they're hearing what they want to hear.

I'm looking forward to when the media slamming of Trump dies down and we can actually go back to facts and I can start jumping all over him for the bullshit he's actually doing... which I'm sure there is plenty to bitch about.

What the MSM is doing today is throwing out so much bullshit that it's impossible to keep up with any of it unless you make it a full-time job or at least a free-time consuming hobby like fantasy football (which many of you here seem to do).

Both sides deal in hate. You notice it when you watch anything from Fox News, but you don't notice it when you watch CNN. The equal and opposite can be said about JSF with both news platforms.




I do not respond to you under the delusion that I can enlighten you. As your posts continually show, you're someone who resists enlightenment. I do it because you continue to post foolishness which allows myself and others, to show how ignorant those who believe as you do are.




T

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Friday, December 1, 2017 7:57 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I do not respond to you under the delusion that I can enlighten you. As your posts continually show, you're someone who resists enlightenment. I do it because you continue to post foolishness which allows myself and others, to show how ignorant those who believe as you do are.



You are a very silly person, T. I don't respect anybody who feels that they have all of the answers and it is their job to "enlighten" anybody else. This is the mode you operate under 24/7. You're just spreading the truth. You're just doing what is right. "You should HATE anyone who doesn't agree with my version of the truth..."

You sound like an evangelist. I want no part of your cult.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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