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Is Trump Nuts?

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Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Native Americans do not agree with you. And it is another example of you and Trump not knowing what the fuck you are talking about and not giving a shit to learn.

"Pocahontas is used a racial slur in the United States all the time," Andrew Curley, citizen of the Navajo Nation, told Newsweek. "I grew up with these kinds of remarks. It's not the name itself but the way it's used. Trump is using it to attack Senator [Elizabeth] Warren and belittle Native Americans at the same time. I take it as a personal insult."
www.newsweek.com/trump-pocahontas-native-americans-elizabeth-warren-ra
cial-slur-723858



How many Native Americans live in the US and Canada?

You give me a quote from one of them and tell me that all Native Americans don't agree with me.

Zero Sum, anyone?

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No. I refuse to play your game. You tell me why that was an insult.

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Well then, add one more thing to the list Jack is clueless about.


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Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:40 AM

Tell me how it was a racial slur, T.

Be specific.

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:24 AM

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How many Native Americans live in the US and Canada?
You give me a quote from one of them and tell me that all Native Americans don't agree with me.



Yes, one of the reasons why I took the "this should have focused on the code-talkers" approach is because that's what a Native American said on NPR. (Yes, I listen to NPR.) I would imagine that there are a diversity of opinions from Native Americans on the topic.

FWIW, as a clearly white American, I have never heard of Pocahontas being referred to in anything other than positive tones. Maybe I would have to be a Native American to hear the insult, but in my experience it isn't.

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:07 AM

You gotta love how one anecdotal story by one random American Indian in two countries is presented as the way all American Indians took that statement.

I think that sounds pretty racist to me.

That's the mode of the MSM and the regressionist, SJW left today. It's no different than assuming that all black people would automatically vote Democrat (watch youtube videos by black people concerning this topic if you want to know how racist they think that fallacy is).



I don't know who calls her Pocohontas, but it sounds to me as if they do because Warren decided at some point to make a big show of the fact that one of her great, great, great, great, great grandparents was American Indian as if to say "Hey guys, I'm one of you". That also sounds possibly racist to me, or at the very least she was guilty of even more identity politics.

"Hey, look at "Pocahontas" over there pandering for the American Indian votes".


I agreed that it was probably a stupid thing for Trump to say at the time and place that he said it, ESPECIALLY if this is why some people call her Pocahontas. But it wasn't a racial slur, and once again another pillar of the MSM makes an ass out of itself by completely abandoning any objectivity and reporting feels over facts. Why must they editorialize everything?

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:11 AM

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Originally posted by G:
Sure it was - he tried to score buddy points by sharing with them that he used one of their more revered historical figures as a slur to insult someone, "We call (that bitch) Pochahontas!" You can argue that he's such a colossal a-hole that he just doesn't know any better - fine. Still an insult. Twice even.



Its 2 levelz uv complexity beyond wut the typical Trump supporter (including him & hiz family) can comprehend.


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Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:02 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

How many Native Americans live in the US and Canada?

You give me a quote from one of them and tell me that all Native Americans don't agree with me.

Zero Sum, anyone?

You want quotes? Trump's Cabinet members, aides, and foreign policy experts are publicly saying Trump is fucking nuts, except more politely.

Is it a “disconnect” or is Trump nuts?

The disconnect over Russia between Trump and his top national security aides – national security adviser H. R. McMaster, Defense Secretary James Mattis, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson – is not new, but it is bursting increasingly out into the open and showing signs of hampering decisionmaking.

“We’re really dealing with a picture where the president has certain instincts about Russia that are not shared by his national security team,” says Nikolas Gvosdev, a professor of national security affairs and Russia specialist at the US Naval War College in Newport, R.I. “The Russians are very confused by all of this, they don’t understand why the president hasn’t instructed his national security staff to reflect his views,” he says.

The normally deadpan Tillerson surprised many with the intensity of his criticism of Russian actions in a speech Tuesday at Washington’s Wilson International Center for Scholars. He cited the “malicious tactics” Russia has used against the US and its European allies – including election interference – that he said had plunged relations to the low levels of the cold war.

Referring to Russia’s invasions of Georgia and Ukraine, its politically motivated regional energy policies, and its cyberwarfare on US and other countries’ democratic elections, Tillerson said such actions “are not the behaviors of a responsible nation.”

Will Trump force his staff to believe as he believes or will he fire the staff? I think Trump will take the third way or the lazy man's way – let things drift aimlessly.

www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2017/1129/With-harsh-words-for-Ru
ssia-Tillerson-signals-another-Trump-team-rift

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:12 PM

No second. I don't want quotes if they're not going to pertain to our discussion. Stop using every time I post as an opportunity to segway into something completely off topic. If you don't want to answer me then just post whatever you were going to post and stop quoting me.


Nobody has explained to me how this was a racial slur.


I guess we're going to just say that it wasn't then?

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Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:26 PM

He didn't even use it himself. He was saying that others call her Pocahontas.

I still don't know the back story about why she's called that, but I've heard that it was because she was identity politicking to the American Indians by making sure everyone knew that she was 1/32 American Indian so she could pander to that demographic.

I've already said it was a stupid thing for him to say. Still no reason why it was a racial slur.

Telling me "well if you don't know, I'm not going to tell you" is a cop out.


You won't tell me because you can't tell me. Because it wasn't a racial slur.



I find it hilarious that the three "educated" white guys on this board are getting so offended over nothing for all of the American Indians.



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Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:23 AM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.

So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.



Hey don't underplay your opinion because you aren't American.

Trump is a narcissist first and dire most. His strategy, unfortunately successful, is to keep himself in the news by making outrageous statements. It distracts from anything important being discussed.



  Insightful. ... Thanks, MD. :)

... Yeah ...
It's obvious he's a narcissist. ... I didn't know he has strategy, tho.


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