Draining The Swamp
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UPDATED: Friday, June 13, 2025 02:56
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wow.
Your media has really good Koolaid.
That's it. That's all you have to say? Yeah, Rush and Fox & Friends, they don't lead you to the watering trough? No, not them....they would never!
SGG
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That was AWESOME!
Now that he's leaving, he can say what he really thinks, instead of swallowing his pride (and the Kool-Aid)?
As the right reverend Jim Carrey once said (in Liar, Liar) "...and the truth shall set you free."
SGG
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
The 12 most damning Bob Corker quotes about Donald Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/politics/trump-corker-quotes/index.html
(CNN) — Bob Corker went off on Donald Trump Sunday night.
For 25 minutes, the Tennessee Republican senator unloaded lots (and lots)
of pent-up frustrations to New York Times' reporter Jonathan Martin. ...
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Well ... yeah!
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And don't forget the "Fake" Bible he holds up.
SGG
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Forbes ...
How to be President : the Art of the Deal ... are the same thing for Trump.
Hmmm?
Inside Trump’s Head: An Exclusive Interview With the President,
And The Single Theory That Explains Everything
https://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/exclusive-interview/#1d086ceabdec
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Quote:You know perfectly well that America spends more on killing than the next dozen countries. Americans might call it "defense", but the weaponry and ammo are for killing, not "defending". Unsurprising to me, many people are killed or maimed and their property destroyed by the Pentagon. It follows as nights follow days. But most Americans don't care about what follows what. That includes the Americans that don't vote, too. You can see the exact same dynamic with guns purchased for "defense" by Americans. The gun murder rate and suicide rate are high because Americans don't care to limit how much is spent on "defending" themselves. Why do Americans not care? It is not the Democratic Party telling them to not care. But the GOP certainly does tell them to not be careful about killing and destroying. Trump is a case-study in Republican indifference to who dies and who is harmed in Korea. Maybe I should mention the great pile of weaponry Trump is purchasing? All that ammo he doesn't use will be available to the Pentagon during the next President's term. The Pentagon will certainly be killing with whatever bullets Trump doesn't fire, no matter what political party is in power. The next President would have to confiscate and destroy those weapons to have any effect on the killing. If a President did that, the GOP would oppose the action more strongly than confiscating guns. Second Amendment right, you know?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno SECOND, YOU should be upset that Dems have caused so much needless death and destruction. I mean, what the hell is wrong with you, that you would object to ANYone looking at the great smoking clusterfucks of instability that Saint Obama created? You DO know that hundreds of thousands of people were killed, yes? That many more were injured, that many women were enslaved, that millions were made refugees, and that the accumulated capital and infrastructure of hundreds of years was destroyed?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Nice deflection SECOND.
Why do Americans not care?
But I wasn't talking about "Americans", I was talking about YOU. Why don't YOU care about the victims of the Dem party?
After all, you care about the victims of the Repub Party, yessiree! Gays, blacks, illegal immigrants ... If the Repubs done it, you're all on it like white on rice. But if the Dems done it .... *crickets*
Quote:Of course it is! Which Dem party leader vowed to stop supporting terrorists in the mideast and to stop toppling governments left and right? Is there even one?
It is not the Democratic Party telling them to not care.
Despite the Dem part whining and crying about the poor downtrodden people in the Yanukovich/ Qaddafi/ Assad/ al Bashir "regimes", do you hear anything now from the Dem party about the even worse trodding- down of those very same peoples by the forces of destruction that the Dems themselves let loose?
Any sober assessment of the results of their nation-topplings? Any comparison of their stated goals (to "help" the peoples of their target nation) with the actual results? Any assumption of responsibility? Any plans to change their actions in future? Or do they blame Republicans, Trump, and Russia for the failures of their own party, in one GIANT deflection of masterful denial/ alternate blame-laying?
And are their partisan fanatics ever-so-willing to go along with the leadership, never to take an actual look at what the Dem party has done, but to remain forever in denial?
YOU, SECOND. YOU. Will YOU endlessly drag the GOP and Trump and the Russian red herrings thru every criticism of the Dem Party?
Yanno, that doesn't wash with me because I've picked pretty hard on Republicans .... you're not about to get me defending the GOP. Russia is simply not to blame for Dem fuckups, and Trump is too recent to be blamed for Dem policies.
I am certainly not saying that the Dems were wrong but the GOP was right. But every time someone criticizes the Dem party, you turn this into an either/or question. Well, can't they BOTH be evil?
BTW, I made a bet with hubs that you will keep squirming and deflecting in order to keep denying that the Dem part was ever wrong about .... well, anything important. You said you were raised as a Jehovah's witness. Well, assuming that's true, you might have left that PARTICULAR religion, but you apparently just transferred your religiosity to the Dem party.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Do you see war protesters marching in the streets of America? No. Do you see American war veterans demanding peace? No. That is why the Democratic party and the GOP are constantly spending to go to war with the world. The Democrats less than the GOP, but neither are a peace party. If the Democrats were a peace party, the GOP would use its demagoguery skills to make Democrats appear to be soft, weak, appeasers and Americans would respond by voting even more overwhelmingly Republican.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Nice deflection SECOND.
Why do Americans not care?
YOU, SECOND. YOU. Will you endlessly drag the GOP and Trump and the Russian red herrings thru every criticism of the Dem Party?
Why would I care to join a peace movement? I do NOT fit the description of a peaceful person, although I do vote for Democrats. I really ought to vote for what is best for me as a one percenter, a vet with a bad temper, and a gun owner. That would be Republican, but I've got a different background from once upon a time being a Jehovah's Witness. I was young, but some of it stayed with me. I'd make a terrible Witness, but I still do despise those people who would treat Witnesses badly. That would be the GOP and every Republican I've ever come across. There is a Jehovah's Witness story https://qz.com/1102238 about President Bush and Trump oppressing people who don't pledge their allegiance. I am on the side of the Witnesses and against Republicans on that issue and a thousand others. Trumpcare, for one very real example.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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We got it. Ages ago. You despise republicans.
But why does that blind you to the ironically-named democratic party faults?
You can be anti-republican and still be critical of the things democrats are doing that are self-destructively wrong (such as manipulating the process to shoe-horn in a candidate with historic net negative ratings).
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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I think that for partisans, no amount of so-called 'democratic' misdeeds will change their minds about the party.
And no volume of disproven anti-Trump hysteria
Quote:will reveal to them the impoverished nature of that approach.
Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61935
But for others - not so much. The hysteria is seen as the insubstantial fluff that is is.
So while Trump's approval rating is at 35%, the republican party favorability rating remains at 39% - and the democratic party favorability rating has DROPPED to 40%.
http://news.gallup.com/poll/217346/trump-job-approval-stabilizing-lowe
r-level.aspx?g_source=position1&g_medium=related&g_campaign=tiles
http://news.gallup.com/poll/210725/democratic-party-image-dips-gop-rat
ings-stable.aspx
This STILL reflects the presidential race, where BOTH Trump AND Hillary went in with historic overall disapproval ratings.
DEMOCRATS - gibbering endlessly about Trump while failing to be an actual alternative is not how you win friends and influence people. MAKE YOUR OBJECTIONS SUBSTANTIVE AND PROVABLE. AND MAKE YOURSELVES A VIABLE MAJORITY ALTERNATIVE. And while this has segued to
Quote:I wanted to make that point here.
A thread for Democrats Only
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61954
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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None of what you said is true. Nothing that you advise works. That are many substantive and provable objections and those get no traction with Americans that include many Dem, Rep, Independent and Not-voting-because-I-am-disquieted-by-both-parties. Poll numbers might drop randomly based on real world events, but soon enough all is forgotten and the only thing remembered clearly is that one party makes all the promises and the other party won’t. The party of won’t, won’t get elected because it won’t claim it can go all the way to goals that are mathematically proven to be out of reach. At this point you won’t follow the link if you are the typical no-traction-American because you don’t want to know, you only want to be persuaded. The art of persuasion is to get suckers to buy from con men.
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/10/14/lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-
lies-lies-lies-lies-lies/
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
We got it. Ages ago. You despise republicans.
But why does that blind you to the ironically-named democratic party faults?
You can be anti-republican and still be critical of the things democrats are doing that are self-destructively wrong (such as manipulating the process to shoe-horn in a candidate with historic net negative ratings).
DEMOCRATS - gibbering endlessly about Trump while failing to be an actual alternative is not how you win friends and influence people. MAKE YOUR OBJECTIONS SUBSTANTIVE AND PROVABLE. AND MAKE YOURSELVES A VIABLE MAJORITY ALTERNATIVE.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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ANOTHER deflection SECOND.
Quote:I was asking about YOUR personal moral judgment, not about "the [stupid] American people" whom you constantly hide behind at the same time that you berate them.
Why do Americans not care? - SECOND
Nice deflection SECOND. YOU, SECOND. YOU. Will you endlessly drag the GOP and Trump and the Russian red herrings thru every criticism of the Dem Party?0 SIGNY
Do you see war protesters marching in the streets of America? No. Do you see American war veterans demanding peace? No. That is why the Democratic party and the GOP are constantly spending to go to war with the world. The Democrats less than the GOP, but neither are a peace party. If the Democrats were a peace party, the GOP would use its demagoguery skills to make Democrats appear to be soft, weak, appeasers and Americans would respond by voting even more overwhelmingly Republican. Why would I care to join a peace movement? I do NOT fit the description of a peaceful person, although I do vote for Democrats.- SECOND
So, let's keep this simple: Do you approve or disapprove of Democrats destroying nations abroad, with the result that those nations become more tyrannical and less prosperous than before?
Why, or why not?
I have other comments about that post, but I want to keep this focused on your moral choices.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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