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Another series of Mass Shootings... at Las Vegas... 40 + People Dead?

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're just missing - everything.




It's called FACTS. You might wanna try them some time.

Men are more violent, including murdering more....FACT
White men go on murder rampages more ....FACT
Men murder the people they live with more in every category except under one year of age...FACT.
Men do dugs more...FACT
Men are alcoholics more...FACT
Men even rape other men more than they rape women...FACT
Even male children are unintentionally violent more...FACT
Men commit road rage more...FACT

The 2013 National Survey on Drug Use and Health indicated that close to 12 percent of American males age 12 and older were currently using illegal drugs, compared with just over 7.3 percent of females in the same age group. Multi-drug use was also more common in males than in females.

Data from the Office for National Statistics suggest men drink an average of 18.7 units a week, compared with 9.0 units for women.

More men are raped in the U.S. than woman, according to figures that include sexual abuse in prisons.

In 2008, it was estimated 216,000 inmates were sexually assaulted while serving time, according to the Department of Justice figures.
That is compared to 90,479 rape cases outside of prison.

Boys were killed in unintentional shootings more than three times as often as girls. And boys were more than 10 times as likely as girls to pull the trigger in an unintentional shooting

The person who is most susceptible to road rage is a male under the age of 19.












Seriously, I could do this all night.

The point I am trying to make is... bitching at women or even feminists is pretty goddamn stupid when you compare the things that men do.

I am NEVER gonna see 6ix complain that men should be more civil. I am never going to see him say men have serious and deadly mental health issues or speculate at why that is. I am only going to see him complain about people who are pretty harmless on the spectrum of things, and mainly because he is impotent to make them what HE wants. And he is just one of MANY MANY men I have seen online who are just as fixated on the things WOMEN do when they need to fixate on themselves.

Take a look at the MAN IN THE MIRROR. If you can.






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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 12:23 PM

The man in the mirror is looking pretty good, princess.

You realize that everybody here knows that you're the most angry and irrational person on this board, don't you?

You're so full of hate and anger I wonder if you're actually one of the men you hate so much and you get to go online and pretend that you're a woman and make a whole back story for yourself. We already know you hate yourself because you're white. It would be no surprise to anybody if you were a man as well.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you don't actually know what my name is.

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KPO
Wednesday, October 4, 2017 5:21 PM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
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Originally posted by kpo:
The average American's response to mass shootings, from what I can tell:

1. Feel horrified. Pray for the families of the victims.
2. Read and share stories about individuals' heroism. Feel a little bit uplifted.
3. Shrug shoulders and say nothing can possibly be done.
4. Repeat.




I skip right to 3 and be done with it.


Indeed. The Onion captures this perfectly:




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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Syrian regime collusion with ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 5:31 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

@second - for decades, the explanation for excessive black violence has been any number of the following - economically disadvantaged , living in a overtly racist country, broken homes and disintegrating family structure, constant reminders of being inferior by media and news reports of ... well, blacks committing crimes , poor education, etc...

These are LEFT WING excuses, which get amplified over and over again in a broken , agenda driven education system as well as the MSM echo chamber.

So when a OLD WHITE GUY, who seemingly had every known advantage there is... wealth, tall stature ( apparently guys who are tall get laid more and make more $ ) , why would he have any reason to strike out at society ???

It runs completely counter to what we're SUPPOSE to believe, unless...

It has zero do to w/ race at all. Hmmm...

If only Stephen Paddock had been a Muslim, or if he had been a member of ISIS, or if we had a picture of him posing with a Quran in one hand and his semiautomatic rifle in another, no one would be telling us not to dishonor the victims and “politicize” Paddock’s mass murder by talking about preventive remedies.

We’d be scheduling immediate hearings in Congress about the worst domestic terrorism event since 9/11. Then President Donald Trump would be tweeting every hour “I told you so,” as he does minutes after every terror attack in Europe, precisely to immediately politicize them. Then there would be immediate calls for a commission of inquiry to see what new laws we need to put in place to make sure this doesn’t happen again.

We will turn the world upside down to track down the last Islamic State fighter in Syria. And how many Americans has the Islamic State killed in the Middle East? I forget. Is it 15 or 20? Fewer than 59 killed in Las Vegas. And our president never stops telling us that when it comes to ISIS, defeat is not an option.

But when fighting the NRA — the National Rifle Association, which more than any other group has prevented the imposition of common-sense gun-control laws — victory is never an option.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 5:43 PM

WISHY

While men constitute the majority of those convicted of a violent crime, the majority of men aren't violent. Although I can't find the simple statistic "What percent of men have been convicted of a violent crime?" a full 97% of white men and 80% of black men have never been jailed. http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/000312240406900201 And unless you're willing to say that there is a racial component of violence, it's clear from the disparate stats on blacks versus whites that part of that disparity is social, and not related to sex.

So while it is fair to say that the majority of violent criminals are men, it's NOT fair to say that the majority of men are violent criminals.

Men are also more likely to be autistic https://molecularautism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13229-015-
0019-y
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more likely to be both less and MORE intelligent than women https://qz.com/441905/men-are-both-dumber-and-smarter-than-women/

and more likely to be sociopaths https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23544428

It's almost as if there are more genetic controls on female brain development/behavior than on male brain development/behavior. From an evolutionary standpoint, that would make sense since females are the primary caregivers and females are also the rate-limiting step in human reproduction.

Well. In any case, back to violence. Men in all cultures are on the average more violent than women in that culture, but the rate varies widely by culture: We Americans would rate men in highly conformist cultures (Japan, Denmark) to be virtually non-violent by our standards. And most men are, as a whole, non violent in ANY culture.

Like any trait that exists on a distribution, it's impossible to castigate an entire sex for the deviance of a percentage of its members.

I guess the real question is whether this male/female discrepancy in violence is consequential to the greatest discrepancy in our current society, which is the huge WEALTH GAP in which a tiny fraction of society has commandeered the majority of wealth.

My guess is that today, the real critical sex difference is sociopathy, not interpersonal violence, since violent people tend to be poorer and therefore more often victims of successful sociopaths. IF we were to make a difference in society, we would be arresting sociopaths of either sex, not the violent.

In other words, as headline-grabbing as the mass shooter is, the overwhelming majority of people will never encounter one. OTOH, the sociopathic practices of the CEOs of Equifax, Wells Fargo, Microsoft, and Facebook, and the sociopathic policies of our fearless leaders affect almost everyone.

Hard to do, but we should be looking at successful sociopaths, not the criminally violent, no matter how splashy their actions. While I'm as guilty as anyone with a "traffic accident" attention focus, it's not the Stephen Paddocks who are driving society.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 9:28 PM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
The man in the mirror is looking pretty good, princess.



I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you don't actually know what my name is.



Sure. Ya look great. If your only accomplishment in life goals is owning a house.



BTW, that minion's name is Kevin. You told everyone your name back when you were drunk. I was trying to be tactful, but... oh well.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:


While men constitute the majority of those convicted of a violent crime, the majority of men aren't violent.

Men are also more likely to be autistic
...and more likely to be sociopaths

It's almost as if there are more genetic controls on female brain development/behavior than on male brain development/behavior.




Sorry, I dispute that. Violence isn't JUST in criminal convictions. It's the whole picture. Which was MY point. Every man I've ever met is violent in some way. Whether it's beating the kids, the wife, sport shooting, violent games, self-harm, punching walls, OR going to jail for something.

We pretty much agree that men are more mentally broken, then. I just didn't take pages to say it.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 9:51 PM

But this is a white man's problem. According to an analysis by Mother Jones, out of 62 cases between 1982 and 2012 (a time period that would not include the actions of Dylann Roof or Stephen Paddock, among others), 44 of the killers were white men and only one was a woman. Since 1982, mass shootings in the United States have been committed by white men who are often labeled "lone wolves" or "psychologically impaired." As a result, the government that would otherwise be mobilizing its institutions to bring about reform remains a stalwart of the Second Amendment and mass shootings' greatest ally. An over-affinity for guns among white men, dangerous against any other backdrop, gets defended as patriotism by many conservatives or even as white pride by those on the alt-right.

In fact, according to a 2014 poll conducted by Fox News, nearly seven in 10 Republicans believed that gun ownership is patriotic. If espoused by other groups, this sentiment and this number might be considered threatening. Instead, it is welcomed in a way that many believe gives tacit encouragement to potential mass shooters.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/opinions/mass-shootings-white-male-rage-
modan-opinion/index.html



THIS ARTICLE HITS IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
The man in the mirror is looking pretty good, princess.



I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you don't actually know what my name is.



Sure. Ya look great. If your only accomplishment in life goals is owning a house.



BTW, that minion's name is Kevin. You told everyone your name back when you were drunk. I was trying to be tactful, but... oh well.




See what I mean, everyone.

This is Wishy.

Angry. Hateful. Spiteful. Petty. Pathetic.

Tactful is not in your repertoire.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2017 11:57 PM

And no. If I told you my name was Kevin when I was drunk, I was lying. I can't tell if you found that picture and you're saying his name is Kevin or what you're trying to say.

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