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Another series of Mass Shootings... at Las Vegas... 40 + People Dead?

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Monday, October 2, 2017 6:25 PM


A Mass Shooter? Reports of People shot dead after shooting on Las Vegas Strip, at a Concert?
....possibly not terror NOT terrorist related, so the guy is not from the Middle East, didn't log on ISIS websites or say Al Lah Ackbar!? Shooting occurring at the Tropicana, another shooting at luxor in vegas, shooting at Mandalay Bay Resort in Las Vegas. Seems like another Mass Shooting? show with video where you can hear automatic weapon fire. They cut to video where somebody is firing on the crowd. From the video, it looks bad situation. It may have been multiple shooters, it was a lot of burst...Police now say they have one suspect they were looking for, multiple casualties near Mandalay Bay Casino. People were running, hiding behind objects for cover, one of duty police officer shot dead while out with his family? Gunshots and deaths at Jake Owen music, a Country Music concert? in Las Vegas Village, Police Reports say he was shooting from 32nd floor of hotel - the Gunman was then shot dead - Police have found gunman's female companion, Marilou Danley?
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/lasvegas
http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/21038
https://twitter.com/hashtag/vegasshooting
Police Scanner. Absolutely sad hearing about all dead bodies, horrible sick event

something perhaps Similar to the historical Texas Tower Shootings? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

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Charles Joseph Whitman (June 24, 1941 – August 1, 1966) was an American mass murderer who became infamous as the "Texas Tower Sniper". On August 1, 1966, he murdered his mother and wife in their homes, then went to the University of Texas at Austin where he shot and killed three people inside the university's tower. He then went to the tower's 28th-floor observation deck, where he fired at random for some 96 minutes, killing an additional eleven people and wounding thirty-one before being shot and killed by police. Sixteen people were killed in total; a 17th victim died in 2001 from injuries sustained in the attack.


gunman opens fire on Mandalay Bay crowds
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/route-91-harvest-festival-shooti
ng-footage-captures-terrifying-moment-gunman-opens-fire-on-crowds-a3648046.html

Officers responded to that hotel room and engaged the suspect, killing him, police said. They do not believe at this time that there were any other shooters, despite reports of multiple gunmen. Police said they do not have an accurate number of victims yet.... Mass Murdering Shooter was Possibly Going Through a Divorce & Sued a Las Vegas Strip Casino in 2012. Dan Bilzerian, the professional poker player and businessman, posted a video running from the concert saying, “a girl just got shot in the f*cking head.”

some of the online forums blogs message boards
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number keeps rising. Holy smokes! I just read the same... 20 dead and over 100 injured. So sad. Sending prayers for all involved.
https://texags.com/forums/12/topics/2890728
I just got a notification saying fifty have died.
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2245293/mass-shooting-at-the-
mandalay-bay-in-las-vegas/p5

Looks like it was at the Route 91 music festival across from Mandalay Bay, but shots look like they might have come from up in the hotel somewhere.
https://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/index.php?threads/the-mass-sh
ooting-near-mandalay-bay.145287
/
you can hear massive amounts of automatic gun fire.
http://www.redcafe.net/threads/shooting-in-las-vegas.432868/
I heard at least one report of multiple fatalities.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?351211-Active-shooter-
Mandalay-Bay-Resort-in-Las-Vegas-2-October-2017/page2

Fcking crazy, literally no where to run or hide if he's taking shots from above.
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/shooting-at-mandalay-bay-res
ort-las-vegas.330825/page-3

Horrific


can hear the bullets.... automatic fire.

more news will be released shortly.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2311913-Active-shooter-on-Las-Vega
s-strip

Two cops dow

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Monday, October 2, 2017 7:02 PM

It sounds as if the family had no idea what was going on with the presumed shooter

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The suspected shooter’s brother, Eric Paddock, said the family was stunned by the news.

“We have no idea. We’re horrified. We’re bewildered and our condolences go out to the victims,” Eric Paddock said in a brief telephone interview, his voice trembling. “We have no idea in the world.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-lasvegas-shooting/gunman-kills-a
t-least-50-wounds-200-in-las-vegas-concert-attack-idUSKCN1C70FU



Given the suspect's age, he probably wasn't on social media. He didn't have a criminal record, he wasn't a military vet or retired law enforcement.

It's a little late for schizophrenia to be showing up. Usually begins in late teens and early twenties, and if you've been schizophrenic for a long time, your family probably knows. So ... Somebody with a recent stroke or other neurological event? An ultra-religious person attacking Sodom and Gomorrah? A 2nd amendment fanatic attacking people that he felt didn't walk the talk?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, October 2, 2017 7:12 PM

'They're all around, you're all going to die!' Mystery of woman kicked out of Vegas country music festival after shouting terrifying threat just an hour before gunman opened fire
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940216/Woman-heard-shouting-t
hreat-massacre-Vegas.html

Brianna Hendricks (left) was attending the concert with mother Shawn (right) and said a woman ran up to them shouting 'you're all going to die' around an hour before the shooting
...
'There was a lady who came running up behind us in the concert and she started to play with people's hair acting crazy and she told us that we're all going to f***ing die.
'She said they're all around us and we were going to die.


so
...was this just some random 'crazy' lady they met in Vegas

or was it connected to the attacks?



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Given the suspect's age, he probably wasn't on social media. He didn't have a criminal record, he wasn't a military vet or retired law enforcement.



However I was wondering if you buy a lot of guns, purchase say 10 or 20 or 30 guns does that itself not set off flags...ATF officials sopme federal reactions to one person suddenly having too many guns? I dunno national security, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, NSA they spy on emails etc would they not have known something?

I think he might have already been know for some minor criminal offense according to the online links...but yeah didn't sound too serious a threat and was maybe an old guy living at some retirement camp/village not going to set off any red flags or alarms with Law Enforcement, National Security or FBI

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Monday, October 2, 2017 7:31 PM

One clue to whether this was a man who just went off his nut because of a stroke, advancing neurological degeneration, or drug use ... or someone who was honing a longstanding grotch against a particular group of people for ideological reasons .... would be the length of time over which he acquired his (considerable) store of weapons.

If he'd been buying them over the past 10 years, I'd say that this was long in the making. But if he purchased them all in the past six months, I'd look for some medical issue.

I'm a bit wary of what we'll find in the media. EVERYONE is going to want to spin this.

DHS has no reason to admit that there was a longstanding threat that they didn't find, despite the NSA's universal surveillance, even if there was one. And they SURE aren't going to admit that he was in the illegal NSA database, even if he was. Since he apparently had a foreign gf, this would have given the NSA the right to snoop in on their communications. But any info they might have on HIM will have to be reconstructed from other "legal" sources of info, so even if they know all about this guy, it will take a while for anything to come out. In any case, DHS says no credible threat to any other venues. Not sure that DHS has much credibility to say that. I mean .... how would they know? They missed him, didn't they? In fact, despite them looking up everybody's anus, they didn't predict ANY of the recent mass shootings, whether ideologically-inspired or not.

Rightwing will want to say that more guns would have solved the problem. Left-wing will want to say he's right-wing, or that he was a nutcase, or both.

Either way, the predicted media response will be for more government surveillance and more gun control.



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, October 2, 2017 8:33 PM

They say the guy was using his girlfriends credit cards to gamble on. I'm gonna guess, since he was in Vegas....That he lost big money.

Testosterone and gambling and guns.. great combination!

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Monday, October 2, 2017 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
They say the guy was using his girlfriends credit cards to gamble on. I'm gonna guess, since he was in Vegas....That he lost big money.

Testosterone and gambling and guns.. great combination!



But he had a lot of guns in his room. You don't go to Vegas to gamble with at least ten weapons in your possession just in case you lose. IF that were the case, everyone would visit Las Vegas with an arsenal. There was SOME forethought to this.

The guy was pretty young to be retired. Maybe he just got a bad diagnosis. Maybe he thought his retirement and his health care were going to disappear. But then, why shoot at random people, unless he felt that they were somehow to blame? The thing I hear about NV is that taxes are really low BECAUSE of the gambling and entertainment revenues. Wouldn't he see them as part of the solution, not part of the problem?

Maybe he had a serious gambling problem. Maybe he thought Las Vegas was the source of all of his ills.

I'd be really interested in how any of this makes sense.



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Monday, October 2, 2017 9:07 PM

They say he lived in a NEARBY retirement village, could prolly drive home and go get them...



"I'd be really interested in how any of this makes sense."

Ain't never gonna.

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Monday, October 2, 2017 9:32 PM

The 10 Deadliest Mass Shootings In The USA



https://en.wikipedia.org

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0–9

49th Street Elementary School shooting
101 California Street shooting
1984 New York City Subway shooting
1998 United States Capitol shooting incident
2008 Skagit County shooting spree

A

2010 ABB plant shootings
Alrosa Villa shootings
Appalachian School of Law shooting
2010 Appomattox shootings
Larry Gene Ashbrook
Atlantis Plastics shooting
1993 Aurora shooting
2012 Aurora shooting
2012 Azana Spa shootings

B

Bard College at Simon's Rock shooting
Mark O. Barton
2016 shooting of Baton Rouge police officers
D.C. sniper attacks
Bethel Regional High School shooting
Binghamton shootings
William Ray Bonner shooting spree
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital attack
Carl Robert Brown
Brown's Chicken massacre
Burnette Chapel shooting

C

California State University, Fullerton massacre
Camden massacre
Capitol Hill massacre
2007 Carnation murders
Carthage nursing home shooting
2016 Cascade Mall shooting
Chardon High School shooting
Charleston church shooting
2015 Chattanooga shootings
1993 shootings at CIA Headquarters
2016 Citronelle homicides
Clackamas Town Center shooting
Cleveland Elementary School shooting (San Diego)
Cleveland Elementary School shooting (Stockton)
2017 Clovis library shooting
2012 College Station, Texas shooting
2009 Collier Township shooting
Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting
2007 Colorado YWAM and New Life shootings
Columbine High School massacre
2017 Congressional baseball shooting
Connecticut Lottery
2011 Copley Township shooting
Covina massacre
Crandon, Wisconsin shooting
Cupertino quarry shooting

D

Daingerfield church shooting
2016 shooting of Dallas police officers
Laurie Dann
Lynwood Drake

E

Edmond post office shooting
1997 Empire State Building shooting
2003 Ennis shooting
ESL shooting

F

1986 FBI Miami shootout
2009 Fort Hood shooting
2014 Fort Hood shooting
2017 Fort Lauderdale airport shooting
Fountain Valley massacre
Freeman High School shooting
FreightCar America shooting
2017 Fresno shootings
Frontier Middle School shooting

G

Geneva County massacre
1946 Georgia lynching
Golden Dragon massacre
Goleta postal facility shootings
2011 Grand Rapids mass murder

H

Hartford Distributors shooting
Heath High School shooting
2016 Hesston shooting
Hi-Fi murders
2013 Hialeah shooting
1965 Highway 101 sniper attack
1996 Honolulu hostage crisis
2015 Harris County, Texas shooting

I

2011 IHOP shooting
Indianapolis mass murder
2014 Isla Vista killings

K

2016 Kalamazoo shootings
Kansas City massacre
Kelayres massacre
Kirkwood City Council shooting
Knoxville Unitarian Universalist church shooting

L

2015 Lafayette shooting
2009 Lakewood shooting
Lane Bryant shooting
Lex Street massacre
Lindhurst High School shooting
Little Rock nightclub shooting
Lockheed Martin shooting
Lorenz-Sirloin Stockade murders
2002 Los Angeles International Airport shooting
2013 Los Angeles International Airport shooting
Los Angeles Jewish Community Center shooting
Luby's shooting

M

Madison High School shooting
Marysville Pilchuck High School shooting
1993 Long Island Rail Road shooting
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre
Utah prisoner of war massacre
2012 Minneapolis workplace shooting
2017 Mississippi shootings
Montgomery County, Pennsylvania shootings
2016 Mukilteo shooting

N

Northern Illinois University shooting

O

Oakland Elementary School shooting
Oikos University shooting
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Monday, October 2, 2017 10:31 PM

And Wishy wonders why I don't think people should be watching ultraviolent crap like Kingsmen.

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Monday, October 2, 2017 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
And Wishy wonders why I don't think people should be watching ultraviolent crap like Kingsmen.




Yet you've played ultraviolent video games, and are probably one of the ones that say that doesn't mean anything. And I'm pretty sure you've watched your share of ultraviolent movies, you hypocrite. Ever seen ANY of the Die Hard movies? Sin City? Rambo? You're no hippy. (Not to mention, but Firefly isn't exactly free from violence, either!)

The truth is- if you're going to snap, you're going to snap no matter what you've seen and heard, but the games and movies don't help.

What makes more people violent than anything else is THESE kinds of shootings. Guys sit around and fantasize about being the "hero" who stops a shooter, arm themselves to an insane level, and then they have a bad day and do it themselves.

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