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OONJERAH

Monday, October 2, 2017 11:02 AM

Tears of relief as aid starts to reach remote parts of Puerto Rico
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tears-relief-aid-reaches-remote-parts-puerto-
rico/story?id=50213633

Puerto Rico Is Getting a Surge of Aid, Governor Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/01/us/puerto-rico-ricardo-rossello-sto
rm-recovery.html

Slate Mag has published an article about "Why Donald Trump Doesn’t Care About Puerto Ricans."

My narrow view. I'd say: Our President only cares about Donald Trump.
He's that immature, to put it nicely.

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6STRINGJOKER

Monday, October 2, 2017 2:00 PM

Jesus Christ with the identity politics.

SECOND

Monday, October 2, 2017 4:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
So what you're really trying to say is that Trump is in a no-win situation and no matter what he did you'd have something to bitch about.

Tell me something I don't know.

I'm bitching because Trump can't imagine a better solution to Puerto Rico since he is already doing the very best. For a different example of Trump's lack of imagination making a situation worse:

Using Trump's nickname for North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong Un, and apparently warning again of a U.S. military response to its escalating nuclear threat, Trump advised, “Save your energy, Rex, we’ll do what has to be done.”

The tweets came the day after Tillerson, on a visit to Beijing, told reporters the administration had direct lines of communication with North Korea and was probing for a response. But Trump already described his very best solution: Fire and Fury the likes of which the World has never seen before.
www.cnn.com/2017/09/17/politics/nikki-haley-north-korea-un-cnntv/index
.html

6STRINGJOKER

Monday, October 2, 2017 10:37 PM

He's calling Kim on his bluff. That's all it is... a bluff.

A lot of bad shit has been happening to America because we showed weakness and a willingness to negotiate with terrorists for a very, very long time.

Rocketman is shitting his pants right now.

Sorry that you don't like what's going on, but you're not the only opinion in America. I think a lot of people have had it and are happy with that current situation.

Let's talk about Puerto Rico. Stop trying to change the subject.

Is there anything that Trump could do right now about Puerto Rico that would make you happy? I give the ultimate handout solution and say bring the entire island over here as refugees, and you still don't like that solution.

Let's hear yours, smart guy.

SECOND

Tuesday, October 3, 2017 7:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
He's calling Kim on his bluff. That's all it is... a bluff.

Rocketman is shitting his pants right now.

Let's talk about Puerto Rico. Stop trying to change the subject.

Is there anything that Trump could do right now about Puerto Rico that would make you happy? I give the ultimate handout solution and say bring the entire island over here as refugees, and you still don't like that solution.

Let's hear yours, smart guy.

Kim is NOT shitting in his pants. He thinks Trump is bluffing; I think Trump is bluffing. If Trump wants to stop Kim from finishing his ICBM program equipped with A-bomb warheads, he will have to destroy a good part of N Korea and Trump's Pentagon are telling him Kim will destroy an even bigger part of S Korea. Who knows if Trump cares about S Korea? Trump, the loudmouth, doesn't even know. But Kim is not bluffing about destroying S Korea in retaliation for being attacked by the USA.

What is Trump going to do? I have as little idea as Trump does. Now back to Puerto Rico and Trump's indecisiveness, the same as his dizzy dithering with N Korea that he tries to disguise with his big mouth about what he will do:

Since his inauguration in January, President Trump has lurched from scandal to scandal, crisis to crisis. And nearly all have been entirely self-inflicted. Make Trump a little less impulsive, a little more slow to take offense, and a little more interested in the details of governance, and he likely wouldn’t have an escalating confrontation with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un or the independent FBI investigation that threatens to engulf his administration.

Hurricane Maria and its devastating hit on Puerto Rico constitutes the first independent crisis of Trump’s tenure — the first event with major consequences for his presidency but out of his immediate control. And what does crisis management look like for President Trump under these circumstances? The same as it does with his self-inflicted wounds: reactive, chaotic, and tinged with demagoguery.

The federal government couldn’t prevent this disaster. But it could have prepared Puerto Rico for the worst by having supplies and resources ready for immediate deployment. That didn’t happen, and the White House is to blame. As Maria approached the island, President Trump was indifferent to the impending crisis, rallying with Alabama Republicans, touting his newest travel ban, and blasting professional football players for their protest against police brutality. On Puerto Rico, however, Trump was silent. To the extent that he spoke publicly, it was to blame its government for the island’s predicament. “Texas & Florida are doing great but Puerto Rico, which was already suffering from broken infrastructure & massive debt, is in deep trouble,” he said last Monday on Twitter, when the extent of the disaster was clear.

The White House had largely dropped the ball, turning its attention from the hurricane as it landed, then fumbling the response. For example, it took a week for Trump to waive a law that barred foreign vessels from delivering aid to Puerto Rico.

When publicly confronted with his inactivity, bordering on indifference, Trump again used Puerto Rico’s government as a scapegoat for the slow pace of recovery. “Ultimately the government of Puerto Rico will have to work with us to determine how this massive rebuilding effort ... will be funded and organized, and what we will do with the tremendous amount of existing debt already on the island,” he said during a Friday speech on tax policy, before traveling to his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey.

Trump’s only extended comments on the disaster were to attack the mayor of San Juan, who had criticized the administration for trying to spin the situation on Puerto Rico. He did something he had never done when discussing hurricane damage in Texas and Florida: He blasted Puerto Ricans themselves. His next step on N Korea will be similar: to blame China. After that doesn'

OONJERAH

Tuesday, October 3, 2017 8:42 AM

Second: "I beg Trump to show the world with his actions how crazy
he is and would he PLEASE stop his talking-talking-talking."

I'm the opposite. I'm afraid he will stop talking and start
bombing. Pretty sure he can't tell the innocent from the guilty,
& the bombs don't care where they fall.

I don't want WWIII or tyranny from the USA.

I grew up pledging allegiance to the flag & to the country for
which it stands. And as a kid, I really thought that we were
the Good Guys, all the Time! ('40's)

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, October 3, 2017 9:37 AM

I agree with OONJ here, second.

Is Trump bluffing? I don't think he is. You seem to want Kim to call him out on it. Ball is in Kim's court. Kim loses any way it goes down. Hopefully he swallows his pride and doesn't take others down with him.

That would not be Trump's fault if it happened. Kim wouldn't be in this mess right now if he wasn't firing nerf gun shots for the world to see.

EDIT: Whoops... I do not agree with second here.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, October 3, 2017 1:09 PM

Quote:
I grew up pledging allegiance to the flag & to the country for
which it stands. And as a kid, I really thought that we were
the Good Guys, all the Time! ('40's)

Same here...seems like so long ago, and on a different planet.

"Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio...."

SGG

SECOND

Tuesday, October 3, 2017 5:02 PM

I picked a poor example because Trump is playing Russian Roulette with millions of Korean lives and that got you all disturbed. Within Trump's threats is Trump's tacit assumption (yes, believe me, I can read his silly brain) that he can stop Kim from building A-bomb tipped ICBMs by only killing Kim and a few thousand North Koreans around Kim. I'm sure a death toll under a 1,000,000 is impossible but I bet Trump truly thinks he can get the job done for far less; he's that out of his mind. How about a different, less horrifying example of Trump running his mouth, where Republican voters think Trump is bluffing but I think he's stupid? I dare him to build his Texas/Mexico wall.

Trump has promised he can get the Mexicans to pay for it. Building the wall is straight forward and possible, but I think that paying is impossible. I want him to stop talking and build the wall and watch him try to collect the money from Mexico. Same goes with Puerto Rico.

Trump has tacitly assumed that if the Puerto Ricans all work together like good little volunteers they can rebuild the island and pay back their debts without Trump spending hundreds of billions. Same as N Korea, Trump's delusion is he can solve an expensive problem cheaper than anyone else in the world could. Trump wants to spend the Puerto Rican money on tax cuts for himself. That is why he keeps mocking the Puerto Ricans for not trying harder to rebuild. I think Trump is talking stupidly about Puerto Rico because of his greed for a tax cut for the Trump family.

To make this all hopeful sounding that Americans are still good, I hope the White House Chief of Staff and the speechwriters can get Trump to at least read the teleprompter and get Trump to sound sane about Puerto Rico, Mexico, and North Korea, despite Trump being unsound of mind.

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Second: "I beg Trump to show the world with his actions how crazy
he is and would he PLEASE stop his talking-talking-talking."

I'm the opposite. I'm afraid he will stop talking and start
bombing. Pretty sure he can't tell the innocent from the guilty,
& the bombs don't care where they fall.

I don't want WWIII or tyranny from the USA.

I grew up pledging allegiance to the flag & to the country for
which it stands. And as a kid, I really thought that we were
the Good Guys, all the Time! ('40's)

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, October 3, 2017 9:58 PM

That's a long post based off opinions and self-admitted ability to read minds.

I kind of skimmed it. Doesn't look to be anything in there that you haven't posted 100 other times about Trump.

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