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Puerto Rico - U.S. Virgin Islands

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 12:50 AM

I've never argued that his wife shouldn't take away his phone privileges.

That being said, I don't really view this as the "attack" that the MSM is portraying it as.

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"Such poor leadership ability by the mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help." "They want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort,"


Sometimes the truth hurts. That doesn't make the truth an attack.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:43 AM

Are there other people up to their waists looking, or is she doing it on her own, or worse yet for a photo op?

A picture of her looking for people doesn't say whether she's an effective leader or not. That is almost completely besides the point.


Maybe your twitter account should be disabled. Censorship much?

I don't like a lot of his tweets either, and he should rein it in. I wouldn't want to live in a country where the President's Twitter account was disabled though. That would mean that nobody was safe from censorship.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:41 AM

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There's just as many shitty Puerto Ricans as there are any other race, and stories of rich celebrities donating cash isn't going to change that.


There are more than enough SHITTY fucking white people who think their shit don't stink, throughout the fucking world. Just like the shitty fucks in Houston, Florida or Washington D.C. for that matter.

What the fuck does that prove?

I'm talking about the good people in general, both here in the U.S. and in Puerto Rico. What exactly is your problem with me even mentioning that there are good people everywhere? And yes, there are bad, evil motherfuckers who don't give a shit.
Fuck 'em - the good people will win out every fucking time. Pure and simple.

Really 90%!? Political agenda!? Yeah Trump likes to exploit it at every opportunity.
Shame really. And yeah, the island is so insignificant that the United States government ignored it back in 1898, when they took it from Spain, who also couldn't find it on the map if they tried. So yeah, it's not important at all. And there's Wall Street, they have much trouble finding it as well. And all those major corporations, they need Google Earth as well to find this tiny island.

Don't worry, you'll get nothing more from me.


SGG



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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Puerto Ricans are human beings, just like the rest of us. I don't buy into any talk about how they have "noble traits" or any such nonsense. There's just as many shitty Puerto Ricans as there are any other race, and stories of rich celebrities donating cash isn't going to change that.


You're not "filling me in" about anything. I already know what is going on down there, and I already said what you just said to me. It's a terrible, terrible clusterfuck on that island right now. A real life nightmare. I feel sorry for them.

I feel sorry for any people you personally know and care about that are going through it. It sucks. I'm just sick of people exploiting every event under the sun for political agendas. At least 90% of Americans had no idea what Puerto Rico's status was before this event happened. I'm willing to be that even now more then 60% of them couldn't even point out PR on a map if you took their smartphone away from them.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:50 AM

The response by some here is just a by product of believing that terrible fuck who's occupying the Oval Office. He belittles others to lift himself up and stroke his own ego, among other things, and satisfy his followers, who follow blindly and without question - you know, like sheep (to the slaughter).


SGG


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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Google: 195 countries

"There are 195 countries in the world today. This total comprises 193 countries
that are member states of the United Nations and 2 countries that are non-member
observer states: the Holy See and the State of Palestine."


Pretty sure I never heard of half of them.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:26 AM

I don't have any problem with you talking about good people.

Look at your phrasing. Then look at your last response to me just seething with mixed feelings of hatered and guilt about white people. That's where I'm coming from.

I'm sure there are some great people on the island. I'm sure there's a LOT of shitty people on the island too.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:42 AM

Bullshit, I call bullshit. I repeated exactly what you said. There are shitty fucking people in this world. Fuck shitty people! Every last one of them. We don't need to mention them because, as we all know, they exist.....why, oh why do we need to acknowledge them, they do enough fucking damage.

Now is the time for good people to step up. Pure and fucking simple!


SGG


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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I don't have any problem with you talking about good people.

Look at your phrasing. Then look at your last response to me just seething with mixed feelings of hatered and guilt about white people. That's where I'm coming from.

I'm sure there are some great people on the island. I'm sure there's a LOT of shitty people on the island too.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:57 AM

Let me break it down further...the majority of the people who live on the island are of Hispanic descent...there are others who also live there, white, black, Asian, etc. So your comment about shitty people goes to race now, doesn't it?

I took it along those lines to prove a point. You have shitty people everywhere, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, you name it, we have it. And so, I said what I said in response to your comment. Truth, as you have said, hurts. But I was speaking of good people, and yes there are people there from FEMA and now the Army. Good!

No one, except you, was talking about the negative. I am not there so I don't know what's happening on the ground, but I have seen video on Facebook from people on the ground, and those who are trying to reach there to help. GOOD FUCKING PEOPLE...
Like I said, a trucker and a doctor looking to reach the island to help. They stated that they were Puerto Ricans looking to help.

As for the evil fucks of this world, again I say, FUCK 'EM. I couldn't care less about them. You trying to put words in my mouth, well, I rebuke that effort.


SGG


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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I don't have any problem with you talking about good people.

Look at your phrasing. Then look at your last response to me just seething with mixed feelings of hatered and guilt about white people. That's where I'm coming from.

I'm sure there are some great people on the island. I'm sure there's a LOT of shitty people on the island too.

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 10:40 AM


At 6StringJoker: You are petty and immature. You don't have anything interesting or useful to say. All you do is try to invalidate everyone else. Not much of a contribution, is it?

All you do is try to invalidate everyone else. Does that make you feel Superior? Because if it does, then you are truly pathetic.



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Sunday, October 1, 2017 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Anyway, you get the idea. The response doesn't HAVE to be slow-moving, ponderous, and reactive. It COULD be made effective- ready and beginning work, on site in 48 hours, instead of this drip-drip-drip of niggardly, reluctant help.

But seeing as how the Federal government can't seem to do anything but bomb people, if you live in a hazard-prone area, and it's a hazard that could affect over 100,000 people, better be prepared to tough it out for two weeks or more on your own.

https://andrewtobias.com/puerto-ricos-3-4-million-american-citizens/

All Americans should be horrified by the depth of the tragedy in Puerto Rico. While we can’t forget our friends who are suffering in Texas and Florida — especially in the Keys — the Puerto Rican tragedy is on a different scale.

. . . The apocalyptic destruction combined with large-scale suffering reminds me of the scenes of devastation and isolation I saw after Hurricane Andrew demolished the suburbs south of Miami in August 1992. . . . In the end, the U.S. Army was required to bring order to the madness.

. . . civilian systems for dealing with a major disaster cannot handle a cataclysm, no matter the skill of the administrators or the intensity of the effort.

. . . The U.S. military is increasingly becoming involved in the Puerto Rican response effort, which is a good sign, but the comparisons with the eventual Andrew response are stark. The Andrew catastrophe zone was, perhaps, 250 square miles and involved about 350,000 people — closer to 100,000 after those that could resettle elsewhere did. It took about 20,000 troops and military-support personnel to provide security, housing, communications, and other critical services after Andrew. They were still operating the Homestead tent city eight months after the storm.

Puerto Rico is about 3,500 square miles and home to about 3.4 million people. Having seen firsthand the crisis that developed in the first few weeks after Andrew, and the seeming endlessness of the 1992 disaster zone, it is impossible for me to imagine the scope of the calamity engulfing Puerto Rico. And, having learned that only the military has the ability to deliver men, materiel, organization and leadership in the time frame required, I am left to wonder why that Andrew lesson wasn’t applied to this catastrophic situation, which is at least an order of magnitude larger.

FEMA should have planned for this possible, foreseeable — and now entirely real — catastrophe the week before Maria hit, not the week after. If 20,000 troops were required in Homestead, a much larger force is required in Puerto Rico.

And what an opportunity to put Puerto Rican American citizens to work building modern, resilient infrastructure for the next 100 years — an effort that in itself would kick start their troubled economy . . . and for far less than we’ve spent trying to build Iraq.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:26 AM

I'm not invalidating anybody else. I'm just not going to sit here and feel like somehow the shit that went down over there is my fault because I'm a white dude that voted for Trump.

I didn't make this about race. Other people did. I've got to hear about "Puerto Rican" traits about neighbors helping neighbors as if there aren't any white people who do the same fucking thing when something awful happens.



THIS is what the Democratic party has done to the country with its identity politics. Everything is about race or sex or some other identity bullshit now.

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