Puerto Rico - U.S. Virgin Islands

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OONJERAH

Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
I dunno, Shiney.

I tried to tell 'em in the Irma thread, but like most folks & our
so-called PotUS ... no one seems to get it:
Puerto Rico is a US protectorate;

Not knocking you here Oon, but...if you didn't know anyone there, would you still have posted on it?

I don't know anyone who has ever been there, and something tells me they wouldn't care if America gets wiped off the map. From what I hear, the people don't want to be a state of the US, it's their politicians that do and only because they think it'll fix things easy. But, that's just what I gathered from comments the last time P.R. was brought up in the news a few years ago. I'm sure they wanna be a state NOW that they are in deep kimchi.

O, I know, Wishi!!
And no one else in here ever hijacks a thread just to
air a fear/grievance or talk about themselves or family.

Stick to the topic; be objective ... I'll try to remember that. :)

When I find out what happened to my pal and his kitty, I'm
gonna post it in here anyways.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:00 PM

Curious responses from all. As far as Puerto Rico being a US Territory, I knew.
Actually it's a Commonwealth. There was also mention of the U.S. Virgin Islands, of course I expected no response.

There's also another territory that has recently been in the news regarding another deep boner by the Orange One - Guam. And finally, there's Northern Mariana Islands and American Samoa.

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Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands in the Pacific Ocean belong to the United States and have the status of Commonwealth, a legal and political status that is above a territory but still below a state. Commonwealth status once inevitably led to statehood, but such a progression is no longer automatic. Congress and the Commonwealth work together to fashion a political system that is acceptable to both parties.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
I dunno, Shiney.

I tried to tell 'em in the Irma thread, but like most folks & our
so-called PotUS ... no one seems to get it:
Puerto Rico is a US protectorate;

Not knocking you here Oon, but...if you didn't know anyone there, would you still have posted on it?

I don't know anyone who has ever been there, and something tells me they wouldn't care if America gets wiped off the map. From what I hear, the people don't want to be a state of the US, it's their politicians that do and only because they think it'll fix things easy. But, that's just what I gathered from comments the last time P.R. was brought up in the news a few years ago. I'm sure they wanna be a state NOW that they are in deep kimchi.

O, I know, Wishi!!
And no one else in here ever hijacks a thread just to
air a fear/grievance or talk about themselves or family.

Stick to the topic; be objective ... I'll try to remember that. :)

When I find out what happened to my pal and his kitty, I'm
gonna post it in here anyways.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:15 PM

Puerto Ricans are American Citizens and have served in every war since WWI.

Puerto Ricans fought alongside the American colonists in the Revolutionary War, but they were under Spanish rule at the time. They have distinguished themselves in battle throughout their history. They have 4 Medal of Honor recipients. Puerto Ricans have served in the major branches of the Armed Forces.

SGG

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Yup.

And I don't believe the stat that 50% of people knew what P.R.'s status was anyway. That number is a thinly veiled knock on the half of the country that voted for Trump, obviously.

Now everybody is an "expert" on P.R.'s status, when a few weeks ago nobody knew or gave a shit.

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, September 28, 2017 3:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Puerto Ricans are American Citizens and have served in every war since WWI.

Puerto Ricans fought alongside the American colonists in the Revolutionary War, but they were under Spanish rule at the time. They have distinguished themselves in battle throughout their history. They have 4 Medal of Honor recipients. Puerto Ricans have served in the major branches of the Armed Forces.

I'd bet anything that Trump, the Dickhead-in-Chief, didn't have a fucking clue.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Yup.

And I don't believe the stat that 50% of people knew what P.R.'s status was anyway. That number is a thinly veiled knock on the half of the country that voted for Trump, obviously.

Now everybody is an "expert" on P.R.'s status, when a few weeks ago nobody knew or gave a shit.

OONJERAH

Thursday, September 28, 2017 4:13 PM

Months ago, when my friend said he was moving from Nicaragua
to Puerto Rico, because it has a VA hospital ... that's when
I knew: Puerto Rico is connected to the USA some way, 'cause
it has a VA hospital. ... My friend had surgery there shortly
after he arrived.
Someone found a kitten on the road & gave it to him. I told
him, "We're too old to be adopting pets. They might outlive us
& who would take care of them?" He agreed, but there was no
turning back then.
He laughed when Harvey came by & did only minor damage.
I got an eMail from him on the 19th. That's all he wrote.
Then Maria hit. Not knowing the extent of the damage at first,
I started checking his Facebook page twice a day ... but every
kind of communication is down except passenger pigeons.

(sigh)
... oooOO}{OOooo ...

WISHIMAY

Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:11 PM

I wasn't saying you can't post about people you know, I was discussing why P.R. is the US's red-headed stepchild. As much as 6ix agreeing with me makes me nauseous, all the people tweeting that Trump doesn't care about P.R. only care because they know someone there.

Laughing at a two hundred mile wide tornado is bad judgment. Living on an island with little resources or ability to escape from in imminent danger is bad judgment.

I seriously hope your friend is ok. But just like the people who live in mobile homes in hurricane prone areas, I'm not sure other people's bad judgment is my responsibility. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to live on an island, but I don't because I couldn't afford to, and I couldn't afford a decent structure and lots of backup supplies. That's just common sense.

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, September 28, 2017 9:35 PM

And.... Are you showing me your Google-Fu? I could probably type just "Puerto Rico" in the Google search bar and get that paragraph on the first page of hits. Doesn't mean what I said isn't true.

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Puerto Ricans are American Citizens and have served in every war since WWI.

Puerto Ricans fought alongside the American colonists in the Revolutionary War, but they were under Spanish rule at the time. They have distinguished themselves in battle throughout their history. They have 4 Medal of Honor recipients. Puerto Ricans have served in the major branches of the Armed Forces.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Yup.

And I don't believe the stat that 50% of people knew what P.R.'s status was anyway. That number is a thinly veiled knock on the half of the country that voted for Trump, obviously.

Now everybody is an "expert" on P.R.'s status, when a few weeks ago nobody knew or gave a shit.

OONJERAH

Friday, September 29, 2017 8:22 AM

@Six: "... P.R.'s status, when a few weeks ago nobody knew or gave a shit."

Indeed. All I knew about it is
1. It's an island;
2. My friend is living there;
3. He got the help he needed from the VA;
4. He sounds fairly pleased his new home. So good on him!

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

OONJERAH

Friday, September 29, 2017 8:23 AM

As I continue to follow the story in Puerto Rico, I find a lot of very
discouraging headlines, such as these two:

In Puerto Rico, Containers Full Of Goods Sit Undistributed At Ports
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/28/554297787/puerto-ric
o-relief-goods-sit-undistributed-at-ports

Puerto Rico, short on fuel, cannot deliver food and medicine to the victims of Hurricane Maria
•4,500 containers/trucks filled with supplies are stuck at the Port of San Juan.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/28/puerto-ricos-fuel-supply-breaks-down-i
n-the-wake-of-marias-devastation.html

There must be an amazing degree of incompetence there for the situation to be this way.
Is it the leaders' fault, the foremen, the workers?
The people are in desperate need of supplies; the supplies have arrived, now it's
intermission - time out?, "Sorry folks, nothing can be done"?

It doesn't compute.

But apparently, PR was in pretty bad shape before the Storm.

6STRINGJOKER

Friday, September 29, 2017 8:41 AM

That does sound terrible. I can't imagine what the people there are going through.

I've heard stories from people who have helped out in similar situations in the past that go the same way. It's just a terrible situation. I don't think there's anybody there that's lording over all the fuel for themselves and are to blame for things not going to help people who need it. Did anybody bother sending an oil tanker or two along with all of those supplies? The infrastructure is gone. I'm sure even if there was fuel it will take a long time to get the goods to people because of the devastation that must be littering what used to be streets. You could probably travel half a mile and then have to stop for half a day to clear out the next stretch of road. Add to all of this that they're surrounded by ocean. It's not as if they can send a bunch of bobcats in to clear up the debris. Most of that work I'm sure is being done by hand.

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