Charlottesville
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Check out the "peaceful" Nazis. Go to 6:00 to see blubber boy explain how "peaceful" the Nazis are.
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Trump’s Charlottesville talking points came straight from Fox News.
A video compares what Trump said to what Fox News said.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
Tucker Carlson sought to further muddy the waters on his Fox News show Tuesday night, by observing that figures such as Plato and Mohammed also owned slaves.
Plato and Mohammed also fucked little kids.
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Yup, it's the same old reichwing "both side do it" crap they've been spewing for years.
The REAL truth: "Nothing makes us more proud at the KKK than we see white patriots such as James Fields Jr, age 20, taking his car and running over nine communist anti-fascist, killing one [expletive]-lover named Heather Heyer. James Fields hail victory. It’s men like you that have made the great white race strong and will be strong again."
Bottom line: The Grand Dragon for the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan is openly celebrating the heinous muder of an innocent patriot, while promising more violence in the future.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2017/08/kkk-ce
lebrates-heather-heyers-murder-promises-violence/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Nonreligious&utm_content=367
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Quote:Well, fair certain we should remove all of the monuments honoring slaveholders (Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, etc) and anybody who supported slavery or endorsed segregation (every single Democrat in history), and rename them all.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
RF
It looks like you espouse firing people from their jobs not because of anything they've DONE - but because they belong to the 'wrong' group. Do you think we should burn their books? Maybe we should pass laws forbidding their beliefs? How about making them live in ghettos? After all, they're so hateful, we need to just be rid of them.
The only current monuments left would be Lincoln and every other Republican so honored.
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Quote:You are correct. There are many limitations to posting via palm screens. Including not having "[", "]", and arrow keys for editing. I hope you were able to cope.
Originally posted by G:Quote:The first word of a sentence should be capitalized. "there" > "There"
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
there is a street in Charlottesville that needs a few more idiotic Libtards obstructing traffic right about now.
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Quote:Darwin Award nominees are not victims of murder, terrorism, or treason - just victims of (lack of) common sense. Which also defines Libtards, with "idiotic" merely being redundant, yet needed to clarify for liberals.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:And yet another Nazi voices their support of murder, terrorism and treason. Yay!
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:there is a street in Charlottesville that needs a few more idiotic Libtards obstructing traffic right about now.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:I know you've got the reading skills of an inbred 3rd grader , but if I must explain everything to you then we'd be here all day.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
"Obama's comment." WTF are you even talking about? Gonna post something from Breitbart for us?
You got spanked. You support Nazis. This thread is proof. Admit it. You're on the side of fascism. Most of your sources prove it, too.
There is zero proof that I ever support ' Nazis ' , and for you to suggest such bullshit shows just how much an idiot you are.
Go back to running with scissors. In traffic.
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Quote:which was founded as the enforcement arm or militant arm of the Democrat Party, always has been, always will be
Originally posted by reaverfan:
THE RIGHT WING
Why the GOP Sides With the Klan and the Nazis
If you can’t win on issues, you win on racism.
http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/gop-and-donald-trump-are-same?akid=
15980.1144919.AHegHh&rd=1&src=newsletter1081154&t=4
"Yet on August 12, members of the oldest terrorist organization in the United States—the Klan
Quote:yes, these Socialists are kindred of Democrats as well as copiers of all Democrat Party policies (the OP of this thread didn't even point out the Gun Registration link)
—along with devotees of one of Europe’s most terrible terrorist cults—Nazis
Quote:Such cogent arguments you present - NOT.
—showed up in Charlottesville, Virginia, to reprise the Nazi and Klan traditions of torchlight nighttime parades specifically to create terror. And when asked about it, Trump waffled.
He’ll threaten North Korea with nukes, but won’t even name the terrorists who showed up in Virginia.
And it’s very, very hard to find an elected Republican (who isn’t a presidential wannabe) who will call this what it is: White Christian Racial Terrorism.
Why?
The answer is really simple: If you can’t win on issues, you go for what used to be called “wedge issues.”
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Quote:What's with the "sides" thing?
Yup, it's the same old reichwing "both side do it" crap they've been spewing for years. - REAVER
Yes, some people in ALL political persuasions resort to violence. But dividing people into "sides" is just a form of dehumanization.
It's funny, the board didn't used to be this way. We had people of all political persuasions here: Far-out libertarians like SARGEX, and deep-state libertarians like GEEZER and anarcho-libertarians like FREM and we didn't fling "sides" at each other. There was a very long thread ... precipitated by the Rwandan massacre ... about "demonization" and how it is the first necessary step towards genocide. When you reduce "them" to something less than human, it makes "them" so much easier to target. A bad thing to do.
Plus, it's STUPID. In real life, people don't divide up into "sides". It only happens when they're provoked into it. Serbs and Croats, Ukies and Russkies, Shia and Sunni, Hutu and Tutsi ... they got along fine for hundreds of years, until some demagogue decided to stir things up. Nothing brings a baboon troop together like LEOPARD! LEOPARD! and creating enemies is a great way to bring people to "your" cause.
I guess the RUSSIA! boogeyman didn't work so well (Amazing how it died out, and how quickly you forgot it, huh???) so now the DNC is provoking a right wing-left wing polarization.
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581
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Why Was This 'Crowd Hire' Company Recruiting $25 An Hour 'Political Activists' In Charlotte Last Week?
Now, the discovery of a craigslist ad posted last Monday, almost a full week before the Charlottesville protests, is raising new questions over whether paid protesters were sourced by a Los Angeles based "public relations firm specializing in innovative events" to serve as agitators in counterprotests.
The ad was posted by a company called "Crowds on Demand" and offered $25 per hour to "actors and photographers" to participate in events in the "Charlotte, NC area." While the ad didn't explicitly define a role to be filled by its crowd of "actors and photographers" it did ask applicants to comment on whether they were "ok with participating in peaceful protests." Here is the text from the ad:
Actors and Photographers Wanted in Charlotte
Crowds on Demand, a Los Angeles-based Public Relations firm specializing in innovative events, is looking for enthusiastic actors and photographers in the Charlotte, NC area to participate in our events. Our events include everything from rallies to protests to corporate PR stunts to celebrity scenes. The biggest qualification is enthusiasm, a "can-do" spirit. Pay will vary by event but typically is $25+ per hour plus reimbursements for gas/parking/Uber/public transit.
For more information about us, please visit www.crowdsondemand.com
If you're interested in working with us, please reply to this posting with the following info ...
So what is "Crowds on Demand?" According to their own website, they're in the business of sourcing large crowds of people to "provide clients with protests, rallies, [and] flash-mobs" all over the country. They even have an entire page on their website dedicated to "Protests and Rallies."
https://crowdsondemand.com/political-services/
... The CEO of Crowds on Demand denied to Snopes that his firm was involved in the Charlottesville protests but refused to provide details on the specific purpose of the craigslist ad and/or why it was temporarily removed yesterday before being restored.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/why-was-crowd-hire-company-re
cruiting-25-hour-political-activists-charlotte-last-wee
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581
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Trump has never defended Nazis , white nationalists, or any such scum.
It would be beneficial if folks on here and on the Left would stop lying.
But then, benefiting peace and unity isn't at all what the Left wants.
This entire fiasco is orchestrated by the likes of Soros , and others, who simply want to destroy the country.
Putin included. I'd not be surprised if they're working in concert, and both sides of the fence. And useful idiots are playing right into their hands.
As for Charlottsville ? The Poles have the best response to both sides ...
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Quote:Logic fail. Again. Care to guess how? Either of you?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Well, fair certain we should remove all of the monuments honoring slaveholders (Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, etc) and anybody who supported slavery or endorsed segregation (every single Democrat in history), and rename them all.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
RF
It looks like you espouse firing people from their jobs not because of anything they've DONE - but because they belong to the 'wrong' group. Do you think we should burn their books? Maybe we should pass laws forbidding their beliefs? How about making them live in ghettos? After all, they're so hateful, we need to just be rid of them.
The only current monuments left would be Lincoln and every other Republican so honored.
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Quote:Yes, he did. Twice in the last 3 days. Why do you lie? Do you think we don't know a hell of a lot more than you do?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Trump has never defended Nazis , white nationalists, or any such scum.
You Nazis were thrilled with his response! http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article167308747.html
"By Tuesday afternoon, The Daily Stormer posted an article entitled, "Trump Defends Charlottesville Nazis Against Jew Media Lies, Condemns Antifa Terrorists."
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Yes, he did. Twice in the last 3 days. Why do you lie? Do you think we don't know a hell of a lot more than you do?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Trump has never defended Nazis , white nationalists, or any such scum.
You Nazis were thrilled with his response! http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article167308747.html
Video or it didn't happen.
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Quote:You just hate that I prove you wrong all the time. It's all in the links, Nazi boy.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:You just hate that I prove you dead wrong all the time. It's all in the links, Nazi boy.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Yes, he did. Twice in the last 3 days. Why do you lie? Do you think we don't know a hell of a lot more than you do?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Trump has never defended Nazis , white nationalists, or any such scum.
You Nazis were thrilled with his response! http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article167308747.html
Video or it didn't happen.
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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:You just hate that I prove you wrong all the time. It's all in the links, Nazi boy.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:You just hate that I prove you dead wrong all the time. It's all in the links, Nazi boy.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Yes, he did. Twice in the last 3 days. Why do you lie? Do you think we don't know a hell of a lot more than you do?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Trump has never defended Nazis , white nationalists, or any such scum.
You Nazis were thrilled with his response! http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article167308747.html
Video or it didn't happen.
I don't hate anything or anyone.
I'd say it was impossible to hate what doesn't exist, but you're living proof that that isn't true.
Show the video. I'm not going to read a bunch of extreme left wing propaganda.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Yes, he did. Twice in the last 3 days. Why do you lie? Do you think we don't know a hell of a lot more than you do?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Trump has never defended Nazis , white nationalists, or any such scum.
You Nazis were thrilled with his response! http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article167308747.html
"By Tuesday afternoon, The Daily Stormer posted an article entitled, "Trump Defends Charlottesville Nazis Against Jew Media Lies, Condemns Antifa Terrorists."
He never did, you're the lying troll, and you know it.
There are FOUR lights !
Post anything you want, we all know I'm right and you're a petty little loser troll.
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Quote:Others here will say you cannot use facts or truths which are referenced by that website - real facts are code for FAKE News for Libtards.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Why Was This 'Crowd Hire' Company Recruiting $25 An Hour 'Political Activists' In Charlotte Last Week?
Now, the discovery of a craigslist ad posted last Monday, almost a full week before the Charlottesville protests, is raising new questions over whether paid protesters were sourced by a Los Angeles based "public relations firm specializing in innovative events" to serve as agitators in counterprotests.
The ad was posted by a company called "Crowds on Demand" and offered $25 per hour to "actors and photographers" to participate in events in the "Charlotte, NC area." While the ad didn't explicitly define a role to be filled by its crowd of "actors and photographers" it did ask applicants to comment on whether they were "ok with participating in peaceful protests." Here is the text from the ad:
Actors and Photographers Wanted in Charlotte
Crowds on Demand, a Los Angeles-based Public Relations firm specializing in innovative events, is looking for enthusiastic actors and photographers in the Charlotte, NC area to participate in our events. Our events include everything from rallies to protests to corporate PR stunts to celebrity scenes. The biggest qualification is enthusiasm, a "can-do" spirit. Pay will vary by event but typically is $25+ per hour plus reimbursements for gas/parking/Uber/public transit.
For more information about us, please visit www.crowdsondemand.com
If you're interested in working with us, please reply to this posting with the following info ...
So what is "Crowds on Demand?" According to their own website, they're in the business of sourcing large crowds of people to "provide clients with protests, rallies, [and] flash-mobs" all over the country. They even have an entire page on their website dedicated to "Protests and Rallies."
https://crowdsondemand.com/political-services/
... The CEO of Crowds on Demand denied to Snopes that his firm was involved in the Charlottesville protests but refused to provide details on the specific purpose of the craigslist ad and/or why it was temporarily removed yesterday before being restored.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/why-was-crowd-hire-company-re
cruiting-25-hour-political-activists-charlotte-last-wee
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Quote:Can you expand upon "four lights" please?
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:He never did, you're the lying troll, and you know it.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Yes, he did. Twice in the last 3 days. Why do you lie? Do you think we don't know a hell of a lot more than you do?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Trump has never defended Nazis , white nationalists, or any such scum.
You Nazis were thrilled with his response! http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article167308747.html
"By Tuesday afternoon, The Daily Stormer posted an article entitled, "Trump Defends Charlottesville Nazis Against Jew Media Lies, Condemns Antifa Terrorists."
There are FOUR lights !
Post anything you want, we all know I'm right and you're a petty little loser troll.
I'd rather not wade through extremist leftist nonsense to find the reference.
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Can you expand upon "four lights" please?
I'd rather not wade through extremist leftist nonsense to find the reference.
Ditto
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Trump fucked his own daughter, so there's that!
At least, that's what I heard.......history in the making!
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Tucker Carlson sought to further muddy the waters on his Fox News show Tuesday night, by observing that figures such as Plato and Mohammed also owned slaves.
Plato and Mohammed also fucked little kids.
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They, the Confederacy, are a bunch of losers. The monuments mainly were erected some 40 years after the fact (end of the Civil War).
What people seem to forget is that they tried to secede from the Union, by military force over slavery. Our country, the United States, was founded upon freedom from tyranny and being treated like "slaves" by the monarchy.
What these idiots are doing is anti-American (promoting fascist principles and dictatorship). Comparing Washington to General Lee is so wrong and out of context. One fought to give birth to a new nation of free men; the other fought to enslave humans and break away from what Washington (and others) had created, that very new and free nation - the United States of America.
Flawed men, yes, but what they achieved exists today and is positive and good. What these Nazis are looking to destroy is the very thing that allows them to carry on like a bunch of dicks.
Besides their anger is misled. But that's another story. The White Dickheads are comparing apples to oranges (no pun intended). In the European continent slaves were often produced as the spoils of war. The Romans were infamous for that, so were the Greeks, Germans, etc. Even in Africa that existed. Mostly from warring tribes and the like. So we could go back thousands of years and claim that at some point slavery existed.
The Spanish brought black slaves to the West Indies once they killed off the natives living on the land at the time. Some through illness and some through the less than stellar treatment at the hands of the Conquistadores.
Do they have slavery today? Does this make it okay, if they did? Or if they once did?
It is a stupid argument brought on by stupid people. But I agree with what you say, the Founding Fathers did do something that to this day is a positive thing...they created a new way of thinking. Granted there have been some negative developments along the way. Over 200 broken treaties with the Native Americans. Which is another reason why I despise these bullies who claim that they want "their" country back. That is not so. The Europeans that came to this country way back when, are immigrants themselves. There is no other way to put it. The only true Americans, born in this country, who were the stewards of this land far before the first Pilgrims landed was the Native American. Period. End of story. Full Stop.
So, Mr. Drumpf, put that in your pipe and smoke it!
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump launched a defense of the Robert E. Lee statue that compared Lee and Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States, to Washington and Jefferson.
But there is something wrong with Trump's argument: We celebrate the good things the founders did. Confederates didn’t do anything good.
As part of Tuesday afternoon’s bizarre remarks on the white supremacist demonstration in Charlottesville, Virginia, President Donald Trump suggested that removing monuments to Confederate military and political leaders could put the United States on a slippery slope.
“Was George Washington a slave owner?” he asked, rhetorically. “So will George Washington now lose his status ... are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson?”
Tucker Carlson sought to further muddy the waters on his Fox News show Tuesday night, by observing that figures such as Plato and Mohammed also owned slaves.
These arguments aren’t exactly offered in good faith. But even then, they reflect a profound misunderstanding of the nature of the Confederacy as a project — and of the difference between commemorating its leaders compared to America’s Founding Fathers.
Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and the other politicians and generals who served the Confederate States of America aren’t noteworthy historical figures who also happened to benefit from the institution of slavery. They are historical figures who are noteworthy almost exclusively because they led an insurrection against the United States of America, an insurrectioNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Saw this on the news, very interesting indeed.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Check out the "peaceful" Nazis. Go to 6:00 to see blubber boy explain how "peaceful" the Nazis are.
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Are you guys having fun? Please continue...I'm having fun too!
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Can you expand upon "four lights" please?
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:He never did, you're the lying troll, and you know it.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Yes, he did. Twice in the last 3 days. Why do you lie? Do you think we don't know a hell of a lot more than you do?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Trump has never defended Nazis , white nationalists, or any such scum.
You Nazis were thrilled with his response! http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article167308747.html
"By Tuesday afternoon, The Daily Stormer posted an article entitled, "Trump Defends Charlottesville Nazis Against Jew Media Lies, Condemns Antifa Terrorists."
There are FOUR lights !
Post anything you want, we all know I'm right and you're a petty little loser troll.
I'd rather not wade through extremist leftist nonsense to find the reference.
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Quote:Not everyone lives in a permanent state of hate like you do.
Do you enjoy supporting Nazi terrorists? Because that's what you're doing.
BTW, I support Nazis even less than you do. I just call bullshit where I see it.
Also, claiming that people with certain BELIEFS are inferior - like you do - is a very Nazi thing to do. Next you'll be saying people should be jailed for thought crimes.
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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Quote:I am very impressed, 1kiki, but not in your favor.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:Not everyone lives in a permanent state of hate like you do.
Do you enjoy supporting Nazi terrorists? Because that's what you're doing.
BTW, I support Nazis even less than you do. I just call bullshit where I see it.
Also, claiming that people with certain BELIEFS are inferior - like you do - is a very Nazi thing to do. Next you'll be saying people should be jailed for thought crimes.
“When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, told The New Yorker for a 2015 article. “It was the eighties, I was a teen-ager, but I remember it: they put us all in the back.”
Trump allegedly disparaged his black casino employees as “lazy” in vividly bigoted terms, according to a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino.
“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”
“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee, according to O’Donnell. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”
Trump told an interviewer in 1997 that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true,” but in 1999 accused O’Donnell of having fabricated the quotes.
www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-racism-examples_us_5991dcabe4b09071
f69b9261
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.
The reference to "there are four lights" is from Star Trek – the next generation. I have used this meme a few times here before.
The Cardassian was trying to get Picard to say that there are five lights. Four or five, really what difference does it make anyways? But that is how they play these games. Get you to admit a small lie, something that isn't true , just a trivial thing. Once they do that, it becomes easier for you to fall in line and repeat other, larger lies
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Quote:When did AURaptor become such a thin-skinned little whiner complaining that liberals are meanies lying about his precious President?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.
You knew Trump was a racist before he was elected president of the United States of America. He was elected in spite of that (yet another reminder that “not all Trump supporters are racist, but all of them decided that racism isn’t a deal-breaker”).
Trump told Bryant Gumbel that “a well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market”; demanded the death penalty for a group of black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a jogger in Central Park (and, despite their later exoneration with the use of DNA evidence, has continued to insist they are guilty); suggested a Native American tribe “don’t look like Indians to me”; mocked Chinese and Japanese trade negotiators by doing an impression of them in broken English; described undocumented Mexican immigrants as “rapists”; compared Syrian refugees to “snakes”; defended two supporters who assaulted a homeless Latino man as “very passionate” people “who love this country”; pledged to ban a quarter of humanity from entering the United States; proposed a database to track American Muslims that he himself refused to distinguish from the Nazi registration of German Jews; implied Jewish donors “want to control” politicians and are all sly negotiators; heaped praise on the “amazing reputation” of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who has blamed America’s problems on a “Jewish mafia”; referred to a black supporter at a campaign rally as “my African-American”; suggested the grieving Muslim mother of a slain U.S. army officer “maybe … wasn’t allowed” to speak in public about her son; accused an American-born Hispanic judge of being “a Mexican”; retweeted anti-Semitic and anti-black memes, white supremacists, and even a quote from Benito Mussolini; kept a book of Hitler’s collected speeches next to his bed; declined to condemn both David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan; and spent five years leading a “birther” movement that was bent on smearing and delegitimizing the first black president of the United States, who Trump also accused of being the founder of ISIS.
https://theintercept.com/2017/08/15/donald-trump-has-been-a-racist-all
-his-life-and-he-isnt-going-to-change-after-charlottesville/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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More lies.
There are 4 lights.
See what I mean??
There is a very real and present danger in bearing false witness up on those with whom you disagree. Calling those who are racist when in fact they are not racist, demesnes the actual word itself. It's like crying wolf over and over again hoping that maybe one Time the charge me actually stick.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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Quote:You have forgotten the past, AURaptor. So are you now claiming that Trump did not spent five years leading a “birther” movement that was bent on smearing and delegitimizing the first black president of the United States, who Trump also accused of being the founder of ISIS?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
More lies.
There are 4 lights.
See what I mean??
There is a very real and present danger in bearing false witness up on those with whom you disagree. Calling those who are racist when in fact they are not racist, demesnes the actual word itself. It's like crying wolf over and over again hoping that maybe one Time the charge me actually stick.
www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/07/sen-jeff-flake-says-gop-should-hav
e-stopped-trumps-birther-push.html
www.politico.com/story/2016/11/9-ways-trump-insulted-obama-231184
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Whoa, nice banner - I want one, or maybe 2.
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That's a Polish version. , and it does look pretty bad ass. I think a USA banner is in order.
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Second - bizarre as the birther stuff was, it originated from the Hillary campaign. And if it were true, there would be zero racism involved. It would be in fact a legitimate issue. Regardless of whether or not he was our first black president. What, do you believe that just because he is our first black president he is absolved. from any wrongdoing or potential scandal? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You don't get to arbitrarily assign intent when someone questions whether or not Obama was born in the United States. What about John McCain? Or Ted Cruz? Born outside of the geographical United States, but were still naturalized citizens. Do you think questioning their citizenship would be racist as well?
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Second - bizarre as the birther stuff was, it originated from the Hillary campaign.
Scooby huh? I totally missed that one! I guess should have known! Hillary is the root of all evil.
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Knowledge is a bitch
Politico, April 22, 2011: The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.
Fact check.org and smopes try to spin the story as false, claiming that the Hillary campaign proper wasn't involved. Not officially at least two. Which is exactly how these things work. Get a "unaffiliated" group which does support a candidate, but doesn't officially get any marching orders from it to put out information, or participate in the actions which will hurt the opposition. Just like "ducks on the ground" which was another Hillary operation , intended to cause chaos at Trump rally's.
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Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.
The reference to "there are four lights" is from Star Trek – the next generation. I have used this meme a few times here before.
The Cardassian was trying to get Picard to say that there are five lights. Four or five, really what difference does it make anyways? But that is how they play these games. Get you to admit a small lie, something that isn't true , just a trivial thing. Once they do that, it becomes easier for you to fall in line and repeat other, larger lies
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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His interrogator was David Warner, who has played Human, Klingon, and Kardashian on Star Trek.
Just curious, would you ever have eaten that wormy egg thing that Picard did? Seems to me he wasn't there that long to be so desperately hungry.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Trump fucked his own daughter, so there's that!
At least, that's what I heard.......history in the making!
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Tucker Carlson sought to further muddy the waters on his Fox News show Tuesday night, by observing that figures such as Plato and Mohammed also owned slaves.
Plato and Mohammed also fucked little kids.
I didn't make this up. There is documented history about this.
Why do you say shit like this? I expect that out of reaverfan who seems to have drank the BAMN koolaid.
You realize that you just said that the President fucked his own daughter?
Hope you got a VPN...
Scratch that.... I've already said that I think anybody who puts a VPN subscription on their credit card is automatically put on a government watch list.
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Quote:There’s a lot that Congress could do to restrain the things about Trump that are odd and abnormal without Republicans needing to abandon any of their longstanding policy commitments.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Second - bizarre as Trump's birther stuff was . . . Just because he is our first multi-billionaire president he is absolved from any wrongdoing or potential scandal? Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
Indeed, we even have a concrete example of the kind of thing that needs to be done from back in July, when overwhelming bipartisan majorities in Congress voted to tie Trump’s hands on Russia sanctions. This is how, in theory, the American system of checks and balances is supposed to work.
But mostly it hasn’t been working. Republicans could easily change that, without jeopardizing the policy priorities they share with the president.
They could restore funding that Trump’s Department of Homeland Security eliminated for de-radicalization programs aimed at white nationalists.
They could hold hearings on the potential threat of white nationalist groups to the country.
They could make their anti-Trump statements on Fox News and conservative talk radio outlets, delivering the message to the people who need to be persuaded that Trump is wrong rather than simply distancing themselves from him in the eyes of mainstream audiences.
They could also, of course, formalize and solemnify their disagreement with Trump though an official resolution of censure.
They would be greatly mitigating the threats posed by Trump’s alarming flirtations with neo-Nazis and sketchy Russia-related behavior, without in any way compromising conservative policy principles.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/17/16156808/republicans-can-che
ck-trump
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
What people seem to forget is that they tried to secede from the Union, by military force over slavery.
The civil war had very little to do with slavery. I'm sure for the rich elite that owned a ton of slaves on their plantation this was a big factor, but a large majority of people who lived in the south did not "own" slaves. A large majority of men who fought and died in the war did not "own" slaves.
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Our country, the United States, was founded upon freedom from tyranny and being treated like "slaves" by the monarchy.
LOL... yeah. The history books say that too. But reality shows that from day one we had slavery here in the states. My ancestors were Irish. The only rights they had above blacks essentially boiled down to having the choice of telling their employer no when they wanted to fuck their daughter, at the cost of being booted from their shack to go and find another Boss that hopefully wasn't feeling so rapey.
Every since slavery has ended in the US we have continually exploited 3rd world nations for labor for pennies a day. Just because nobody really reports on it doesn't mean that it's not still happening.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
More lies.
There are 4 lights.
See what I mean??
There is a very real and present danger in bearing false witness up on those with whom you disagree. Calling those who are racist when in fact they are not racist, demesnes the actual word itself. It's like crying wolf over and over again hoping that maybe one Time the charge me actually stick.
We're getting to that point, aren't we Rap?
People are just going to say, "yeah, whatever, I'm racist". What does that even mean when they use that word to describe somebody a few dozen times a day?
I never get called a Nazi in real life, but I hear it so much here that it's just becoming laughable. That's not right. There is nothing funny about Nazism.
Great Trek reference. I didn't watch a lot of TNG so I never saw that ep. My only additional thought on the matter would not to place blind trust in what the Right Wing media says either. I'm pretty sure they're trying to get you to say there's 5 lights too, just of a different color.
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7 Things to Know About the Mindset of the Neo-Nazis
The era of the loud and proud white racist is upon us.
http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/7-things-know-about-mindset-neo-naz
is?akid=15987.1144919.QDIK37&rd=1&src=newsletter1081211&t=4
"Dehumanization is at the heart of every campaign of genocide and system of oppression. Dehumanization yields a justice system that criminalizes, over-polices and over-incarcerates entire groups, which is horrifying enough. When you continue the trend of describing people as not fully human, it becomes a lot easier to put them in gas chambers and internment camps; render them as chattel property; or kill off the native people of countries you've colonized."
White Supremacists Stand by Trump, and He Returns the Favor
At a press conference, the president blamed the melee in Charlottesville on the left as much as the right, echoing far-right talking points.
http://prospect.org/article/white-supremacists-stand-trump-and-he-retu
rns-favor
Who knew we'd have a Nazi as president in 2017? I did, but I'm smarter and more observant than you.
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Originally posted by second:
You have forgotten the past, AURaptor. So are you now claiming that Trump did not spent five years leading a “birther” movement that was bent on smearing and delegitimizing the first black president of the United States, who Trump also accused of being the founder of ISIS?
You've forgotten the past. Hillary Clinton started the birther movement during her election bid against Obama. Trump just ran with it.
Obama did plenty to delegitimatize himself. Obama may not have personally founded ISIS, but foreign policy and the disruption of the Middle East that happened under his watch did.
Granted, this ball was rolling many decades ago, so not all blame should be cast at Obama. I would say that GWB shares an equal amount of it.
That being said... Obama was "Hope" and "Change" and he was going to put an end to all of that shit and it only got much, much worse while he presided.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Second - bizarre as the birther stuff was, it originated from the Hillary campaign.
Scooby huh? I totally missed that one! I guess should have known! Hillary is the root of all evil.
Yeah. She's one hell of a lady.
Think of the Birther Movement as Obama's "Pussy Grabbing" moment.
Stay classy, Hillary....
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They could restore funding that Trump’s Department of Homeland Security eliminated for de-radicalization programs aimed at white nationalists.
They could hold hearings on the potential threat of white nationalist groups to the country.
Why would they do that? These programs have done nothing against things like muslim terrorists or the BLM. Why would they be any more effective on white nationalists?
Hell... for 8 years Obama wouldn't even say the word terrorist...
and last I checked, speech was free.
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Second - The establishment in DC has been at odds with Trump since before he was nominated This is not news. They will do and say anything to undercut his presidency. He isn't on board with their swampy agenda, so he must be vilified.
Problem is, Trump has been vilified for who he is for quite a while. And yet, he still keeps being Trump. What should have sank a normal politician is it working on him.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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Quote:Reichwing terrorists vastly outnumber Muslim terrorists in the US, as they showed us in Charlottesville. They applauded the douchebag terrorist in the Dodge.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
They could restore funding that Trump’s Department of Homeland Security eliminated for de-radicalization programs aimed at white nationalists.
They could hold hearings on the potential threat of white nationalist groups to the country.
Why would they do that? These programs have done nothing against things like muslim terrorists or the BLM. Why would they be any more effective on white nationalists?
Hell... for 8 years Obama wouldn't even say the word terrorist...
and last I checked, speech was free.
Also, these programs have been VERY effective.
You'd have perhaps a shred of credibility if you ever had the first clue WTF you're talking about, but you keep proving you don't.
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According to a new CBS poll, 67 percent of Republicans approve of the way Trump handled the Charlottesville aftermath, while 82 percent of Democrats disapproved.
www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-divided-over-trumps-response-to-charlot
tesville-cbs-news-poll/?linkId=41076262
When Trump gets charged with income tax evasion, the split will be much the same. 67 percent of Republicans think Trump should be pardoned because the tax code is too complicated to be understood and 82 percent of Democrats think Trump should pay back his taxes and go to jail.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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I won't be holding my breath waiting for Congress to actually do anything constructive for this country.
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Watch this racist bitch cry and lie.
Fox Host Cries Because People Think She’s Racist For Defending Trump
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2017/08/fox-ho
st-cries-people-think-shes-racist-defending-trump/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Nonreligious&utm_content=367
Her racism is way more obvious to others than to her. That's the problem with people who have low IQs: They lack self-awareness, too. Just look at Trump.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Reichwing terrorists vastly outnumber Muslim terrorists in the US, as they showed us in Charlottesville. They applauded the douchebag terrorist in the Dodge.
4 Lights.
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Also, these programs have been VERY effective.
Except when they aren't.
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You'd have perhaps a shred of credibility if you ever had the first clue WTF you're talking about, but you keep proving you don't.
I do. I'm not concerned with trying to look credible in your eyes. I could say the same thing right back at you but there's no point.
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Originally posted by G:
...but if 6 is quoting it as fact it's got stink all over it like Pizzagate stink.
Don't take it from me.
Take it from Jimmy Dore of TYT. Yanno, the guy who spit on Alex Jones.
Or MSNBC
Or Morning Joe... yanno... the show that says their job is to tell us what to believe...
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This Group Has Successfully Converted White Supremacists Using Compassion.
Trump Defunded It.
“How do we know people are redeemable? Life After Hate is completely made up of Formers,” he said, invoking a phrase the organization uses to describe people who have successfully departed hate groups. “The rest of the team were all members of white supremacist groups and were in leadership roles. They were the core of those groups.”
“I myself was an extremist,” he said, pointing to his former gang leadership. “I had a lot of mental health diagnoses that said I was incorrigible, I was anti-social … basically that I couldn’t change, and yet here I am.”
https://theintercept.com/2017/08/17/this-group-has-successfully-conver
ted-white-supremacists-using-compassion-trump-defunded-it/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
This Group Has Successfully Converted White Supremacists Using Compassion.
Trump Defunded It.
“How do we know people are redeemable? Life After Hate is completely made up of Formers,” he said, invoking a phrase the organization uses to describe people who have successfully departed hate groups. “The rest of the team were all members of white supremacist groups and were in leadership roles. They were the core of those groups.”
“I myself was an extremist,” he said, pointing to his former gang leadership. “I had a lot of mental health diagnoses that said I was incorrigible, I was anti-social … basically that I couldn’t change, and yet here I am.”
https://theintercept.com/2017/08/17/this-group-has-successfully-conver
ted-white-supremacists-using-compassion-trump-defunded-it/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I'm sure Trump has enough time in his day where he looked at that and personally defunded it.
I'm guessing that it was just part of a lot of things that were defunded en masse and it just makes a great news story on the heels of Charlottesville.
Congrats MSM.
Haven't heard a thing about Russia in weeks now. You've successfully turned your useful idiots attention elsewhere since that wasn't going anywhere. You never cease to amaze me in your mind control abilities.
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Posting again. So funny to watch all these 30 year old virgins trying to justify their terrorism because they're white.
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by G:
...but if 6 is quoting it as fact it's got stink all over it like Pizzagate stink.
So I should listen to 3 more douche bags? Yeah - I wonder if you even watched those vids.
First guy is a Hannity wannabe - he'll say anything.
Second vid said it was not her and it was ludicrous.
3rd one is Morning Joe - 'nuff said on that one.
Basically what I said.
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Did you even watch the videos? Jimmy Dore is a Hannity wannabe?
He's probably further left than you are.
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Quote:do you foresee Democraps winning everywhere now that Republicans have proven they are not conservative, and are only RINO establishment obstructionists?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I won't be holding my breath waiting for Congress to actually do anything constructive for this country.
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Quote:I had not really pegged you as merely a denier. But now that you have made it clear, it's easier to conjure where your wacky delusions are derived from. Submerged in a fog without facts or tangent reality must be frustrating for you.
Originally posted by G:Quote:It really is hard to know if you really know something, ain't it? Sorry - your "Hillary did it" just doesn't pass for me, too Fuxie, too convenient. I'm not saying it definitely did not happen - I have no doubt she could and did get up to stuff - but if 6 is quoting it as fact it's got stink all over it like Pizzagate stink. Plus she's the all too convenient bogey woman for Liberal haters. And then there's conflicting evidence - it's not as verifiable as Trump running with it for 5 years. And then there's Trump being a lying pos every day since he started his campaign.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Knowledge is a bitch
Politico, April 22, 2011: The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.
Fact check.org and smopes try to spin the story as false, claiming that the Hillary campaign proper wasn't involved. Not officially at least two. Which is exactly how these things work. Get a "unaffiliated" group which does support a candidate, but doesn't officially get any marching orders from it to put out information, or participate in the actions which will hurt the opposition. Just like "ducks on the ground" which was another Hillary operation , intended to cause chaos at Trump rally's.
And now you have stated Pizzagate is fact as well. Maybe I should look into that.
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Plus she's the all too convenient bogey woman for Liberal haters.
LOL at bogey woman.
That's where we're at now, huh? We even have to go out of our way to differentiate the sexes when we're applying a fictional derogatory term to somebody.
Okay.
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Quote:wow. Thanks, I never would have gotten that reference.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.
The reference to "there are four lights" is from Star Trek – the next generation. I have used this meme a few times here before.
The Cardassian was trying to get Picard to say that there are five lights. Four or five, really what difference does it make anyways? But that is how they play these games. Get you to admit a small lie, something that isn't true , just a trivial thing. Once they do that, it becomes easier for you to fall in line and repeat other, larger lies
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Quote:when did second become such a thin skinned whiner just because the lies of Libtards are displayed?
Originally posted by second:Quote:When did AURaptor become such a thin-skinned little whiner complaining that liberals are meanies lying about his precious President?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.
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Quote:your spell changer app is worse than mine.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
More lies.
There are 4 lights.
See what I mean??
There is a very real and present danger in bearing false witness up on those with whom you disagree. Calling those who are racist when in fact they are not racist, demesnes the actual word itself. It's like crying wolf over and over again hoping that maybe one Time the charge me actually stick.
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Quote:and yet Hilliary continues to poll 2 points lower than Trump in approval ratings, as recent as the 2nd week of July. Bloomberg poll, her second lowest rating since 2009.
Originally posted by second:
According to a new CBS poll, 67 percent of Republicans approve of the way Trump handled the Charlottesville aftermath, while 82 percent of Democrats disapproved.
www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-divided-over-trumps-response-to-charlot
tesville-cbs-news-poll/?linkId=41076262
When Trump gets charged with income tax evasion, the split will be much the same. 67 percent of Republicans think Trump should be pardoned because the tax code is too complicated to be understood and 82 percent of Democrats think Trump should pay back his taxes and go to jail.
How is it that Libtards keep failing to mention this balanced viewpoint?
http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-poll-numbers-after-216-
election-2017-7
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Plus she's the all too convenient bogey woman for Liberal haters.
LOL at bogey woman.
That's where we're at now, huh? We even have to go out of our way to differentiate the sexes when we're applying a fictional derogatory term to somebody.
Okay.
You are such a stiff sometimes... it's a thing they call humor - you even lol'd. I guess you got the joke and didn't realize it.
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Maybe it's a joke to you. College professors could get fired for not using that term properly though.
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Haven't heard a thing about Russia in weeks now. You've successfully turned your useful idiots attention elsewhere since that wasn't going anywhere. You never cease to amaze me in your mind control abilities.
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Quote:when did second become such a thin skinned whiner just because the lies of Libtards are displayed?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
She didn't. She completely owned the resident Nazis here, using facts and logic, like she always does.
You've yet to grasp those concepts.
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Quote:He cared very much about defunding it. He relies on Nazis. They're his base and his biggest fans. He couldn't give money to an org that heals the mental illness of his brownshirts. He wants them to stay evil and do his bidding.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I'm sure Trump has enough time in his day where he looked at that and personally defunded it.
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Illinois Senate passes measure for Nazis to be classed as terrorists
'It is vital that we stand in total opposition to the hatred, bigotry and violence displayed by the white nationalist and neo-Nazi groups in Charlottesville this past weekend,' says senator
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/illinois-senate-neo-n
azis-terrorist-groups-white-supremacist-pass-measure-charlottesville-violence-a7893841.html
Good. Nazis are, by definition, terrorists, and should be treated as such.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:wow. Thanks, I never would have gotten that reference.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.
The reference to "there are four lights" is from Star Trek – the next generation. I have used this meme a few times here before.
The Cardassian was trying to get Picard to say that there are five lights. Four or five, really what difference does it make anyways? But that is how they play these games. Get you to admit a small lie, something that isn't true , just a trivial thing. Once they do that, it becomes easier for you to fall in line and repeat other, larger lies
I'm more apt to toss out a sci-fi themed reference on this site than I would on most others. 4 Lights is a personal fav of mine.
It so glaringly applies to the propaganda and lies spread by our MSM.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Illinois Senate passes measure for Nazis to be classed as terrorists
'It is vital that we stand in total opposition to the hatred, bigotry and violence displayed by the white nationalist and neo-Nazi groups in Charlottesville this past weekend,' says senator
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/illinois-senate-neo-n
azis-terrorist-groups-white-supremacist-pass-measure-charlottesville-violence-a7893841.html
Good. Nazis are, by definition, terrorists, and should be treated as such.
It's never going to go anywhere because of people like who throw the word around everywhere.
By your own logic, more than half of the people who post on this board are terrorists.
Are they going to start rounding up half of the country now?
What a joke.
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Hillary and Obama bashing is in the Trump playbook 101. Whenever he is criticized for being the dumb scumbag that he is, he quickly blames Hillary or Obama, or both.
Just like the made up history regarding slavery, General Lee, George Washington and Jefferson. Nothing but lies and convenient facts, or should I say, alternative facts.
SGG
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Knowledge is a bitch
Politico, April 22, 2011: The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.
Fact check.org and smopes try to spin the story as false, claiming that the Hillary campaign proper wasn't involved. Not officially at least two. Which is exactly how these things work. Get a "unaffiliated" group which does support a candidate, but doesn't officially get any marching orders from it to put out information, or participate in the actions which will hurt the opposition. Just like "ducks on the ground" which was another Hillary operation , intended to cause chaos at Trump rally's.
It really is hard to know if you really know something, ain't it? Sorry - your "Hillary did it" just doesn't pass for me, too Fuxie, too convenient. I'm not saying it definitely did not happen - I have no doubt she could and did get up to stuff - but if 6 is quoting it as fact it's got stink all over it like Pizzagate stink. Plus she's the all too convenient bogey woman for Liberal haters. And then there's conflicting evidence - it's not as verifiable as Trump running with it for 5 years. And then there's Trump being a lying pos every day since he started his campaign.
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Finally Rappy gets it. A Republican led majority = nothing done!
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I won't be holding my breath waiting for Congress to actually do anything constructive for this country.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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OMG you guys are too much.
First, that whole repeating a lie over and over is a ploy used to near exhaustion by your fearless dickhead - D. Trump. "I know it, and you know it. Many sides were to blame" - what a fucking joke. I watched the special report when the whole thing broke out. It was plain as day, the fucking Nazi goose-stepping low life scumbags were using, bats, pipes and two-by- fours, and shields to beat on people. There was a video of 5 or 6 Nazis beating on an unarmed black student who was counter-protesting...UNARMED and they beat him with clubs, bats, sticks, punches and kicks. 5 to 6 guys.
There were reports of these scumbags hitting women, pushing clergy (who were there to keep the peace). One eye witness was interviewed and she said that the clergy were dressed in their religious garb but that it made no difference, they were pushed and shoved by these punks and that the volunteers from Antifa came along and escorted them away from the violence.
But Trump, in his full throated glory, says that the "left" began the violence.
But, of course, they say nothing of the fliers that were passed around openly saying that they, the Nazis, were going to kick some ass. Of course, they were "peacefully" marching without a mean bone in their body. Then why were they dressed in "riot" gear and motorcycle and bike helmets? And, of course, Trump doesn't mention the bottles filled with urine, and the cans of soda being thrown.
No lies. Of course not!
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Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.
This is what Trump does when he doesn't get his way, the Big Baby!
Fucking scumbag and shit for brains, who follows Bannon's every word.
He can't keep his story straight. Fucking scumbag pussy-grabber!
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:wow. Thanks, I never would have gotten that reference.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.
The reference to "there are four lights" is from Star Trek – the next generation. I have used this meme a few times here before.
The Cardassian was trying to get Picard to say that there are five lights. Four or five, really what difference does it make anyways? But that is how they play these games. Get you to admit a small lie, something that isn't true , just a trivial thing. Once they do that, it becomes easier for you to fall in line and repeat other, larger lies
I'm more apt to toss out a sci-fi themed reference on this site than I would on most others. 4 Lights is a personal fav of mine.
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Quote:The right’s game of footsie with the alt-right ostensibly ended when Trump won.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hillary and Obama bashing is in the Trump playbook 101. Whenever he is criticized . . . he quickly blames Hillary or Obama, or both.
Bannon disavowed them once he made it to the White House. Like France after the liberation, it seemed everyone was suddenly a member of the resistance and nobody was a collaborator. At least, that is, until Saturday, when the president invited speculation that the old popular front is still operational.
Whatever its status at the White House, the alt-right thinks it will replace the traditional right. It won’t, for the simple reason that the vast, overwhelming majority of conservatives are patriotic and decent, just like Americans generally. They don’t want anything to do with people who want to overthrow the Constitution and set up racial Bantustans.
No, the real threat to traditional conservatism is the mindset that made it possible to form even a theoretical alliance with the alt-right in the first place: the idea that winning and fighting are self-justifying.
Over the last decade, many on the right have convinced themselves that the real problem with conservatism is a lack of will.
They admiringly quote left-wing activist Saul Alinsky admiringly and claim that “we” have to be like “them” by doing whatever is necessary to “win.”
During the campaign, when Trump attacked the ethnicity of an American judge or the parents of a fallen Muslim U.S. soldier, the response from his defenders on the right was usually, “At least he fightsff”
Such amorality was warranted, many explained, because if Clinton had won, America would be “over.”
National security official Michael Anton, then writing from the safety of anonymity, dubbed it a “Flight 93 election” and argued that conservatives must do anything for victory or accept certain death. In an interview with New York magazine, Anton went further. “If we must have Caesar,” he said, “who do you want him to be? One of theirs? Or one of yours (ours)?”
The election is over. Yet that spirit not only endures, it has intensified. Trump’s conservative critics, or “apostates” as Conrad Black calls us, face the same ultimatum. “The choice, for sane conservatives,” Black writes, “is Trump or national disaster.” Black is hardly alone in making this or similar cases. The upshot of them all is that the test for “sane” (or real or good or true) conservatives is loyalty to the president, not to any coherent body of ideas or ideals. Even truth takes a back seat.
I’d point out that such thinking could invite the worst and most opportunistic creatures to infiltrate the movement. Except they already have.
www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-goldberg-altright-20170814-story.h
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Finally Rappy gets it. A Republican led majority = nothing done!
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I won't be holding my breath waiting for Congress to actually do anything constructive for this country.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
They worked just fine when Newt was Speaker, but the collection of elitist establishment wankers in leadership ever since has been pathetic. I have been 'calling it ' like this for quite some time now. Do keep up.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
OMG you guys are too much.
First, that whole repeating a lie over and over is a ploy used to near exhaustion by your fearless dickhead - D. Trump. "I know it, and you know it. Many sides were to blame" - what a fucking joke. I watched the special report when the whole thing broke out. It was plain as day, the fucking Nazi goose-stepping low life scumbags were using, bats, pipes and two-by- fours, and shields to beat on people. There was a video of 5 or 6 Nazis beating on an unarmed black student who was counter-protesting...UNARMED and they beat him with clubs, bats, sticks, punches and kicks. 5 to 6 guys.
You're only seeing what you want to see. There's plenty of video out there where antifa folks are armed and were throwing objects. And this isn't the first time Antifa has been pulling this shit before. Going back to Berkeley ( 2x ) where they vandalized, and attacked unarmed people, even one girl getting beaten over the head w/ a flag pole... Trump is 100% right here, and I don't care how much hate you have for him or the Nazis, no amount of spin can change the facts.
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There were reports of these scumbags hitting women, pushing clergy (who were there to keep the peace). One eye witness was interviewed and she said that the clergy were dressed in their religious garb but that it made no difference, they were pushed and shoved by these punks and that the volunteers from Antifa came along and escorted them away from the violence.
But Trump, in his full throated glory, says that the "left" began the violence.
He never said they began the violence. Stop lying. He said they took part in it, by aggressively attacking those who had a PERMIT to be there.
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But, of course, they say nothing of the fliers that were passed around openly saying that they, the Nazis, were going to kick some ass. Of course, they were "peacefully" marching without a mean bone in their body. Then why were they dressed in "riot" gear and motorcycle and bike helmets? And, of course, Trump doesn't mention the bottles filled with urine, and the cans of soda being thrown.
No lies. Of course not!
The Left uses fliers too, and every bit as vitriolic. Fliers aren't violence. It's free speech.
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This is what Trump does when he doesn't get his way, the Big Baby!
Fucking scumbag and shit for brains, who follows Bannon's every word.
He can't keep his story straight. Fucking scumbag pussy-grabber!
SGG
You're just jealous he's grabbed some of the nicest kitty in the world.
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Quote:If you actively support and defend terrorists (like you are doing here), what does that make you?
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Illinois Senate passes measure for Nazis to be classed as terrorists
'It is vital that we stand in total opposition to the hatred, bigotry and violence displayed by the white nationalist and neo-Nazi groups in Charlottesville this past weekend,' says senator
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/illinois-senate-neo-n
azis-terrorist-groups-white-supremacist-pass-measure-charlottesville-violence-a7893841.html
Good. Nazis are, by definition, terrorists, and should be treated as such.
It's never going to go anywhere because of people like who throw the word around everywhere.
By your own logic, more than half of the people who post on this board are terrorists.
Are they going to start rounding up half of the country now?
What a joke.
Nazi terrorism has been the most common form of terrorism here for decades. Time to drain the swamp, the sooner the better.
These spoiled children are going to learn what consequences are. Hang 'em high.
Also, the people who support these terrorists are a tiny, tiny minority. You are on the wrong side of the law and history. You are, by your own admission, an uneducated dolt, so it figures.
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LEAKED: The Planning Meetings that Led Up to Neo-Nazi Terrorism in Charlottesville
http://www.unicornriot.ninja/?p=18194
Charlottesville, VA – Leaked audio recordings of conversations carried over the chat app Discord show how white supremacist, neo-nazi, and ‘alt-right’ organizers prepared for last weekend’s ‘Unite The Right’ gathering of hundreds of racists and anti-semitic self-proclaimed fascists in the scenic Virginia town of Charlottesville.
The various neo-Nazi, white supremacist, and alt-right factions that descended onto Charlottesville relied heavily on Discord chat servers for many aspects of their operational and logistical planning for the series of violent white supremacist mob gatherings last weekend that ended in neo-nazi terrorist James Alex Fields, Jr. killing 32-year-old Charlottesville local Heather Heyer and injuring at least 20 others.
“Discord has had a monopoly on communication between members of the far right hate groups for the past six months if not more. Almost every leader in this movement has an account there. So much of the coordination and collaboration of Charlottesville took place on Discord.” –Keegan Hankes, intelligence analyst, Southern Poverty Law Center, quoted in The Guardian
The Unite The Right voice chat meeting held on August 10, 2017 to coordinate participants for days ahead, appears to have been facilitated by white supremacist alt-right organizer Eli Mosely.
“The main thing with social media stuff is to be paying attention to Discord the day – from basically from now until the end of the rally.” – Eli Mosley in August 10, 2017 “Unite the Right” Discord voice chat
“If you don’t have the Discord app on your phone, get it.” – Participant in August 10, 2017 “Unite the Right” Discord voice chat
The conference-call style discussion centers around a “General Orders” (rules and guidelines) document (PDF) that Mosely created for Unite The Right attendees.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
If you actively support and defend terrorists (like you are doing here), what does that make you?
You keep saying that, but I'm not. Show me where I defended or supported terrorists, actively or even passively.
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Nazi terrorism has been the most common form of terrorism here for decades. Time to drain the swamp, the sooner the better.
Says who? First off, there are no Nazis. There are a bunch of racist white idiots and some of them I'm sure can get quite violent. I don't know how many times I have to say that when somebody commits a crime that they should be arrested, tried and punished for it.
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These spoiled children are going to learn what consequences are. Hang 'em high.
What spoiled children? The white kids doing this shit? They don't have any money. If they came from any sort of privilege they'd be in college now, not hanging out with drunk old biker racists and looking for fights.
It's the antifa type kids that come from privilege and get recruited in college that are spoiled, no matter what color they are. They're the ones tearing and burning everything down.
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Also, the people who support these terrorists are a tiny, tiny minority.
You're right. You should probably stop calling everyone a Nazi, huh?
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You are on the wrong side of the law and history.
That's a subjective statement. You continually accuse me of things I'm not doing. I've never been arrested for anything and nobody has a crystal ball, so I'm feeling pretty good about where I'm at.
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You are, by your own admission, an uneducated dolt, so it figures.
There you go with putting words in people's mouths again.
I dropped out of college because I didn't like the brainwashing. It just wasn't for me. I'm hardly uneducated though. You don't need a college degree to be educated.
Oh... were you talking about how I don't care about watching the news? It's all a bunch of lies and a waste of time. The day that you realize that MSNBC and CNN are just as untrustworthy as FOX news is the day that you'll evolve.
There's hope for you yet.
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Quote:Yeah. Right. They were brainwashing everyone, but you were too smart to fall for it, so you dropped out. They're all "sheeple," but not you. You're special.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I dropped out of college because I didn't like the brainwashing.
LOL!
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Yeah. Right. They were brainwashing everyone, but you were too smart to fall for it, so you dropped out. They're all "sheeple," but not you. You're special.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I dropped out of college because I didn't like the brainwashing.
LOL!
I have no college debt, a home and a car free and clear, a head not full of liberal brainwashing. I had all of that when I was only 32 years old.
I don't buy a bunch of shit I don't need. I live a minimalist lifestyle that isn't influenced at all by materialism. I've essentially been retired since 32 years old and beholden to nobody.
If you took all of the years of my adult working life and averaged out the pay, I'm at about $12,000-$13,000 per year, so no... can't blame my success on any sort of pre-concieved white male privlidge.
It's not about how much money you make. It's what you do with it that matters.
Yeah. I'd say that could be considered by some to be special. If nothing else it's entirely unique.
What have you done with all that education, snowflake?
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Quote:and this is after Antifa thugs specifically target anybody with a camera filming them, to ensure mostly Libtard Criminal PoV remains.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:You're only seeing what you want to see. There's plenty of video out there where antifa folks are armed and were throwing objects.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
OMG you guys are too much.
First, that whole repeating a lie over and over is a ploy used to near exhaustion by your fearless dickhead - D. Trump. "I know it, and you know it. Many sides were to blame" - what a fucking joke. I watched the special report when the whole thing broke out. It was plain as day, the fucking Nazi goose-stepping low life scumbags were using, bats, pipes and two-by- fours, and shields to beat on people. There was a video of 5 or 6 Nazis beating on an unarmed black student who was counter-protesting...UNARMED and they beat him with clubs, bats, sticks, punches and kicks. 5 to 6 guys.
Quote:SGG just conveniently forgets how well produced, directed, controlled the leftist "news" videos are proven to be.
And this isn't the first time Antifa has been pulling this shit before. Going back to Berkeley ( 2x ) where they vandalized, and attacked unarmed people, even one girl getting beaten over the head w/ a flag pole... Trump is 100% right here, and I don't care how much hate you have for him or the Nazis, no amount of spin can change the facts.Quote:He never said they began the violence. Stop lying. He said they took part in it, by aggressively attacking those who had a PERMIT to be there.
There were reports of these scumbags hitting women, pushing clergy (who were there to keep the peace). One eye witness was interviewed and she said that the clergy were dressed in their religious garb but that it made no difference, they were pushed and shoved by these punks and that the volunteers from Antifa came along and escorted them away from the violence.
But Trump, in his full throated glory, says that the "left" began the violence.Quote:The Left uses fliers too, and every bit as vitriolic. Fliers aren't violence. It's free speech.
But, of course, they say nothing of the fliers that were passed around openly saying that they, the Nazis, were going to kick some ass. Of course, they were "peacefully" marching without a mean bone in their body. Then why were they dressed in "riot" gear and motorcycle and bike helmets? And, of course, Trump doesn't mention the bottles filled with urine, and the cans of soda being thrown.
No lies. Of course not!Quote:You're just jealous he's grabbed some of the nicest kitty in the world.
This is what Trump does when he doesn't get his way, the Big Baby!
Fucking scumbag and shit for brains, who follows Bannon's every word.
He can't keep his story straight. Fucking scumbag pussy-grabber!
SGG
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How did they forget to include all the trucks blowing up?
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Quote:I made a fortune. I also know how to think critically, another skill you never learned.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Yeah. Right. They were brainwashing everyone, but you were too smart to fall for it, so you dropped out. They're all "sheeple," but not you. You're special.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I dropped out of college because I didn't like the brainwashing.
LOL!
I have no college debt, a home and a car free and clear, a head not full of liberal brainwashing. I had all of that when I was only 32 years old.
I don't buy a bunch of shit I don't need. I live a minimalist lifestyle that isn't influenced at all by materialism. I've essentially been retired since 32 years old and beholden to nobody.
If you took all of the years of my adult working life and averaged out the pay, I'm at about $12,000-$13,000 per year, so no... can't blame my success on any sort of pre-concieved white male privlidge.
It's not about how much money you make. It's what you do with it that matters.
Yeah. I'd say that could be considered by some to be special. If nothing else it's entirely unique.
What have you done with all that education, snowflake?
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Wow, this thread has taken on a life of its own.
I'm sure that anything that I have to say won't have any impact.
But I really think this is very much a cooked-up animosity, fueled by "identity politics" on both "the left" (whatever THAT is) and "the right" (whatever THAT is). I really think that you all are being played for fools.
Can't we get past thinking of ourselves and each other as DNC/RNC; POC/white; left/right etc?
For example, clearly it is bad to plow your car into a group of people, whether you're a pissed-off antifa, or a KKK racist, or a radical jihadist.
Instead of saying "racists are bad" what about "racISM is bad"? Instead of saying that the KKK/antifa/jihadists are bad, can't we just say that political violence is bad? Then we can stop beating each other over the head.
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
I made a fortune.
Then why are you so angry and full of hate all the time?
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I also know how to think critically, another skill you never learned.
Two very subjective statements in one sentence. Neither of which have any data to back them up.
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Let me tell you something JSF, the Nazi Party goers and KKK do not go to rallies peacefully. They arm themselves to the teeth. As far as Antifa goes, they'd be pretty damn stupid if they didn't go prepared for a fight, especially when the so-called alt-right sends out fliers declaring there intent to kick ass.
I never said that Antifa went totally unarmed. And yes, I saw both sides throwing things and Nazis punching and kicking people as they tried to reach for things on the ground. Then there's the eye witness account of a female pastor of the church in Charlottesville, that was surrounded by a gaggle of Nazi nut jobs pushing and shoving their way toward the statue the night before the rally was to start (The night they appeared with their tiki-torches). They were knocking down clergy, not that that should matter to you, or any right-wing nut job. They were there to keep the peace. These brave "men" were punching women in the face.
And another thing, neither you, I or Drumpf the Idiot, were there to say who started what. All I'm going by is the eye witness's account. She did not say that
the Nazi pricks started it, but that they attacked the group she was with, which was made up of clergy from the area. She did say that Antifa members helped save their lives, when they gave them cover as the Nazis confronted the clergy. I was watching an interview, with that same female pastor, when suddenly she was whisked away by an Antifa volunteer, right in front of my eyes and she ran for her life as someone attacked during the interview.
And the attack by those 6 Nazis on one guy, was merely because as the KKK marched, the young student was telling them to go home. He was a student from the nearby college, UNARMED. Beatened, kicked and clubbed. Merely because he spoke to them. That's it! He also stated that one of those that was beating him had a gun.
Oh, by the way, when you say "aggressively attacking those who had a PERMIT to be there"... that means that they, Antifa, started it. Attack means that they were the aggressors. Like I said, none of us, least of all Trump, to say, as an eye witness, that Antifa started anything. So stop lying!!!
Fliers are free speech, but they show intent. It could easily be used as proof in a court of law. Fuck it, it doesn't matter because everyone with half a brain (present company excluded, you have a quarter of a brain) knows that these Nazi fucks think they are big and bad. Yeah right! A fucking dick wad gets all teary-eyed and blubbering like a bitch when he merely received a warrant for his arrest.
He CRIED because he received a warrant.....are you fucking kidding me!? And this after he bragged to a reporter how big & bad he was, working out at the gym in prep for the rally, how he was ready to kill someone. Yeah, what a fucking loser.
You guys gotta pick a better class of racist!
Ain't Karma a Bitch!
You're really funny with some of your weak so-called insults. Dude, it's like a very faint tickle. Ha, ha I scoff at your foolishness!
sgg
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
OMG you guys are too much.
First, that whole repeating a lie over and over is a ploy used to near exhaustion by your fearless dickhead - D. Trump. "I know it, and you know it. Many sides were to blame" - what a fucking joke. I watched the special report when the whole thing broke out. It was plain as day, the fucking Nazi goose-stepping low life scumbags were using, bats, pipes and two-by- fours, and shields to beat on people. There was a video of 5 or 6 Nazis beating on an unarmed black student who was counter-protesting...UNARMED and they beat him with clubs, bats, sticks, punches and kicks. 5 to 6 guys.
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You are a real fucking piece of work Siggy.
Let me see if I have this right: Stop name-calling, you stupid fools.
Is that about right? Wow, you actually wrote that. You are not the only one with thoughts and opinions, but to tell people to stop the name calling and then violate the very suggestion you made....now that takes brilliance.
No, leave it die of it's own accord. This thread (and others like it) are much needed. Racism, race relations must be discussed, and sometimes it takes an ugly bumpy road to get there. People are being killed for stupidity, and it must be stopped, not ignored. What's needed is dialogue, much like what we are having now.
If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that you are trying to stop this thread, much like you attempted with my Trump thread last year (the one that had thousands of responses) by saying it was too big to scroll through. You do know that you can click on the number of pages at the top and bottom of the thread. If I am wrong, well, I offer an apology.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, this thread has taken on a life of its own.
I'm sure that anything that I have to say won't have any impact.
But I really think this is very much a cooked-up animosity, fueled by "identity politics" on both "the left" (whatever THAT is) and "the right" (whatever THAT is). I really think that you all are being played for fools.
Can't we get past thinking of ourselves and each other as DNC/RNC; POC/white; left/right etc?
For example, clearly it is bad to plow your car into a group of people, whether you're a pissed-off antifa, or a KKK racist, or a radical jihadist.
Instead of saying "racists are bad" what about "racISM is bad"? Instead of saying that the KKK/antifa/jihadists are bad, can't we just say that political violence is bad? Then we can stop beating each other over the head.
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
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Poor little snowflakes can't stop whining! 
5 White Supremacists Whining About How Unfair Things Are After Charlottesville
Their perpetual state of imagined victimhood has only grown more acute.
http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/5-white-supremacists-whining-about-
how-unfair-things-are-after-charlottesville?akid=15998.1144919.zxTOxY&rd=1&src=newsletter1081331&t=6
They have the right to say what they like. They don't have the right to stay employed, or to keep friends and family who disown them.
I love watching Nazis suffer consequences! The Antifa heroes, as expected, are hailed as such and praised universally for their inherent goodness.
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Everyone involved is trash and will all eventually be labeled as terrorists.
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antif
a
(Right click and "view image" to blow it up and read it.)
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Quote:Let me see if I got this right: I said you are being PLAYED FOR FOOLS.
You are a real fucking piece of work Siggy.
Let me see if I have this right: Stop name-calling, you stupid fools. - SHINY
Okay, maybe you don't know what this expression means, so here are some definitions:
PLAYED FOR (A) FOOL(S)
To treat someone like a fool; to assume someone is naive or stupid.
To treat someone as if they are stupid, especially by trying to get something from them in a way that is not fair
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/play+for+a+fool
To be played the fool; to be patronised, deceived, conned or taken advantage of. to be treated like an idiot.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=played%20the%20fool
I didn't mean that you ARE fools, I mean that you're being treated AS IF you're fools, AS IF you can be hoodwinked, flim-flammed, cheated, swindled etc. The negative aspect goes to the person who is attempting to deceive, not to the intended victim.
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Originally posted by G:
Clearly you are talking to all the Trump voters here.
You voted for Hillary knowing exactly what she was.
I'd rather be played for a fool than outright be one.
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So, going past all the back and forth - I read Trump's statements - all of them.
And I read many news accounts of what happened.
And you know what?
Trump was right. There was provocation on BOTH sides. There was instigation on BOTH sides. There was violence on BOTH sides. There's truth on BOTH sides. There's blame on BOTH sides.
Just because the particular things you were allowed to see made one group LOOK more menacing than the other doesn't mean you got the truth about what they DID.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a myopic partisan who's blind to everything but their own pov reflected back to them.
Here's a sampling
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-l
eft/index.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-18/first-they-came-statues
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-washington-and-lee-20170817-htmlst
ory.html
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlottesville-witnesses-20170815
-story.html
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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What I find particularly distressing is how SOME people on this board are so willing to divide Americans into "them" and "us", and categorize and then castigate entire groups of people who IN THEIR MINDS believe/ stand for IN THEIR MINDS repugnant ideas.
"People" just don't divide into groups like that. It's not like there are "white fascists/ Trump supporters" and "antifa/ Hillary supporters" and nobody else.
MOST people's ideas are more granular. They might agree with one thing (economic nationalism or global warming) but not other things (white supremacy or international finance).
Why are we beating up on EACH OTHER, trying to pin people into certain groups where they really don't belong? The only thing that I think we can agree on that political violence is wrong, violating the Constitution is wrong, and there is NO "side" that's exempt from that.
So let's blame those individuals who engage in that behavior, whether they're "right" or "left".
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
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Quote:but but but I'm the only one who's always right...
Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, going past all the back and forth - I read Trump's statements - all of them.
And I read many news accounts of what happened.
And you know what?
Trump was right. There was provocation on BOTH sides. There was instigation on BOTH sides. There was violence on BOTH sides. There's truth on BOTH sides. There's blame on BOTH sides.
Just because the particular things you were allowed to see made one group LOOK more menacing than the other doesn't mean you got the truth about what they DID.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is a myopic partisan who's blind to everything but their own pov reflected back to them.
Here's a sampling
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-l
eft/index.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-18/first-they-came-statues
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-washington-and-lee-20170817-htmlst
ory.html
https://www.dddmag.com/news/2017/08/researchers-discover-fundamental-p
athology-behind-als
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlottesville-witnesses-20170815
-story.html
But seriously, did you check out the links of the driver Allen taking the psychotropic drugs which cause breaks from reality?
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Quote:Two very subjective statements in one sentence. Neither of which have any data to back them up.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:Then why are you so angry and full of hate all the time?
Originally posted by reaverfan:
I made a fortune.Quote:
I also know how to think critically, another skill you never learned.
and more pertinent, evidence in themselves that the opposite of each is true. RF is unlearned, unskilled, and can't think.
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Quote:hint to 6:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Everyone involved is trash and will all eventually be labeled as terrorists.
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antif
a
(Right click and "view image" to blow it up and read it.)
Facts that are clear to you and any reasonable person are coded as Libtard "fake news" for
the deniers.
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Quote:Because the easiest way to manipulate people is to identify an enemy 'them' and make 'them' a target? And because there are people who are extremely susceptible to that message?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"People" just don't divide into groups like that. It's not like there are "white fascists/ Trump supporters" and "antifa/ Hillary supporters" and nobody else.
MOST people's ideas are more granular. They might agree with one thing (economic nationalism or global warming) but not other things (white supremacy or international finance).
Why are we beating up on EACH OTHER, trying to pin people into certain groups where they really don't belong?
You find that distressing.
I find it frightening.
I see that GROUPS are being vilified. What's the point of all this hate-mongering, if not to make one group support the suppression of another? To make us the dupes in someone else's plan to fracture our society, disable any vestige of democracy, and separate us from the power we have in numbers?
BTW, I also find the current hate mongering well in tune with the endless cycling of the enemy de jour that started with bin Lade ... aliban ... Saddam ... and has been running ever since. We're presented with one enemy after another, without pause, or thought, or even memory of who came before, or reflection about why were we after them, again ?, or the one before that, or the one before that. After a while we don't even care about the reasons. It's just one endless game of whack-a-mole.
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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A little over 30 years ago, I was married to a narcissist. I did not come to know that at the time (they are particularly skilled at turning things around to their seeming advantage).
Fast forward to about a year ago. I met a woman online that had all the earmarks of a long lasting relationship, but no, I eventually found out that she was a narcissist. On both occasions it took me some time to recover because they really screw with your mind, unless of course you know what to look for. They twist things, even illogical things, and make it seem as though it's your fault. A real head trip if ever I have experienced one.
Trump is such a narcissist. Now I'm not saying that our resident comrades are narcissists, but I am proceeding with caution and laser-like attention. Just in case. I'm going to keep my wits about me. Control and manipulation is the name of the game, and if you don't agree with them....well, you know the deal.
My ex wife, and then my most recent girlfriend, did some con job on me. But it took me some time to catch on (partially because I'm too trusting) but catch on I did.
I'm no expert, but I've picked up on a few things. But I can honestly say that Trump is a text book example of a Class A-1 narcissist. NO question. Backhanded compliments and all.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You are a real fucking piece of work Siggy.
Let me see if I have this right: Stop name-calling, you stupid fools.
Is that about right? Wow, you actually wrote that. You are not the only one with thoughts and opinions, but to tell people to stop the name calling and then violate the very suggestion you made....now that takes brilliance.
Straight from the Siggy playbook, SGG. I would add that on top of "brilliance" it takes ignorance of any self awareness as well. I've seen her insult people in the same sentence that she acts like a victim. WTF? Does she read what other people post? Purposeful ignorance.
Also in her playbooK: acting like you are the first person to think of something when half the people you're talking to have already said it. It's Trumpian. It's Control Freakian.
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Quote:I've heard this, but have never met a real narcissist. Although, I used to work for a real jackass who was a Peter Lorie sound-alike who used to saunter over and talk sex and torture!
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
A little over 30 years ago, I was married to a narcissist. I did not come to know that at the time (they are particularly skilled at turning things around to their seeming advantage).
Fast forward to about a year ago. I met a woman online that had all the earmarks of a long lasting relationship, but no, I eventually found out that she was a narcissist. On both occasions it took me some time to recover because they really screw with your mind, unless of course you know what to look for. They twist things, even illogical things, and make it seem as though it's your fault. A real head trip if ever I have experienced one.
Quote:I'm not sure that he has the self-control to be a narcissist. I think of him more as an egoistic self-promoter. But my experience with such is limited. I could be wrong.
Trump is such a narcissist.- SHINY
Quote:As well you should!
Now I'm not saying that our resident comrades are narcissists, but I am proceeding with caution and laser-like attention. Just in case. I'm going to keep my wits about me.
I'm curious, I've never met a narcissist. (At least, I don't think so.) I've heard that that they're very dangerous, and (as my daughter notes quite often) I'm really very nosy! I'll actually turn around and drive up to a cluster of police cars and ask "Hey officer! What's going on?" But, aside from my nosiness about police action ...
What cluster of events/ reactions led you to realize that you were dealing with a narcissist? I'm just really, really, really curious.
It's a personal question, so if you find it offensive, I'm sorry. Curiosity sometimes gets the better of me.
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Trump's not a narcissist. He likes himself too much.
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Satanic Nazi violence kills yet another. He gave his life protecting people from Nazi evil.
UVA Employee Suffers Stroke After Protesting White Supremacist Rally
Friends and colleagues say Tyler Magill’s stroke is the result of being struck with a Tiki torch.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tyler-magill-stroke-charlottesvill
e_us_5994b2e2e4b0d0d2cc83ff58
And the Nazis here STILL try to defend these terrorists.
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