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Is Trump Nuts?

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Friday, August 11, 2017 3:33 AM

“With the exception of the president, every link in the U.S. nuclear decision chain has protections against poor judgments, deliberate misuse or accidental deployment. The two-person rule, in place since World War II, requires that the actual order to launch be sent to two separate people. Each one has to decode and authenticate the message before taking action. In addition, anyone with nuclear weapons duties, in any branch of service, must routinely pass a Pentagon-mandated evaluation called the Personnel Reliability Program—a battery of tests that assess several areas, including mental fitness, financial history, and physical and emotional well-being.

There is no comparable restraint on the president. He or she can decide to trigger a thermonuclear Armageddon without consulting anyone at all and never has to demonstrate mental fitness.”

Scientific American explains why no one should have sole authority to launch a nuclear attack.

www.scientificamerican.com/article/no-one-should-have-sole-authority-t
o-launch-a-nuclear-attack
/

In just five minutes an American president could put all of humanity in jeopardy. Most nuclear security experts believe that's how long it would take for as many as 400 land-based nuclear weapons in the U.S. arsenal to be loosed on enemy targets after an initial “go” order. Ten minutes later a battalion of underwater nukes could join them.

That unbridled power is a frightening prospect no matter who is president. Donald Trump, the current occupant of the Oval Office, highlights this point. He said he aspires to be “unpredictable” in how he might use nuclear weapons.

Meanwhile, Trump wondered aloud whether his fire and fury comments might not have been tough enough: “North Korea better get their act together or they are going to be in trouble like few nations have ever been in trouble … Things will happen to them like they never thought possible, OK?”

https://apnews.com/74ed5e07efc94759ba335a51e80de6dc/In-new-threat,-Tru
mp-demands-NKorea-%27get-their-act-together%27

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Friday, August 11, 2017 9:20 AM

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Originally posted by G:

I do believe that Kelly, Mattis, and or McMasters would keep him from doing something too stupid.

Nice fantasy, but I would not believe that.

Max Boot, a lifelong conservative who advised three Republican Presidential candidates on foreign policy, keeps a folder labelled “Trump Stupidity File” on his computer. It’s next to his “Trump Lies” file. “Not sure which is larger at this point,” he told me this week. “It’s neck-and-neck.”

Six months into the Trump era, foreign-policy officials from eight past Administrations told me they are aghast that the President is still so witless about the world. “He seems as clueless today as he was on January 20th,” Boot, who is now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said. Trump’s painful public gaffes, they warn, indicate that he’s not reading, retaining, or listening to his Presidential briefings. And the newbie excuse no longer flies.

“Trump has an appalling ignorance of the current world, of history, of previous American engagement, of what former Presidents thought and did,” Geoffrey Kemp, who worked at the Pentagon during the Ford Administration and at the National Security Council during the Reagan Administration, reflected. “He has an almost studious rejection of the type of in-depth knowledge that virtually all of his predecessors eventually gained or had views on.”

Criticism of Donald Trump among Democrats who served in senior national-security positions is predictable and rife. But Republicans—who are historically ambitious on foreign policy—are particularly pained by the President’s missteps and misstatements. So are former senior intelligence officials who have avoided publicly criticizing Presidents until now.

“The President has little understanding of the context”—of what’s happening in the world—“and even less interest in hearing the people who want to deliver it,” Michael Hayden, a retired four-star general and former director of both the C.I.A. and the National Security Agency, told me. “He’s impatient, decision-oriented, and prone to action. It’s all about the present tense. When he asks, ‘What the hell’s going on in Iraq?’ people around him have learned not to say, ‘Well, in 632 . . . ’ ” (That was the year when the Prophet Muhammad died, prompting the beginning of the Sunni-Shiite split.*)

“He just doesn’t have an interest in the world,” Hayden said.

www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-is-donald-trump-still-so-horribly
-witless-about-the-world

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Sunday, August 13, 2017 9:18 PM

How Trump’s paranoid White House sees ‘deep state’ enemies on all sides

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/13/donald-trump-white-house-steve
-bannon-rich-higgins


An extraordinary memo by a former national security official contains a list of Donald Trump’s perceived enemies within, offering an insight into paranoia gripping the White House.

The author, Rich Higgins, was ousted last month by the national security adviser, HR McMaster (who is not paranoid). But the president reportedly saw the memo when it was passed to him by his son, Donald Trump Jr, and was said to be “furious” at Higgins’s forced departure.

Entitled POTUS & Political Warfare and written in florid pseudo-intellectual language, the memo illustrates the siege mentality that fuels Trump, his chief strategist, Steve Bannon, and the “alt-right” in their endless running battles with the media, the so-called “deep state” and others.

The seven-page document – leaked to Foreign Policy magazine – claims the Trump administration is suffering under “withering information campaigns designed to first undermine, then delegitimize and ultimately remove the president”.

It continues: “Recognizing in candidate Trump an existential threat to cultural Marxist memes that dominate the prevailing cultural narrative, those that benefit recognize the threat he poses and seek his destruction.”

Writing in May this year, Higgins, who was in the strategic planning office at the National Security Council, goes on to identify seven groups that he claims are part of a huge conspiracy to bring the president down.

First is the mainstream media, which he describes as “the principle [sic] mechanism for implementing narratives”. Trump frequently attacks CNN, the New York Times and Washington Post and has described the media as the “enemy of the American people”, while Bannon has called it the “opposition party”. White House press briefings have frequently involved acrimonious clashes with the CNN reporter Jim Acosta, among others. Yet Trump evidently continues to crave media attention.

Second, there is “the academy”, which Higgins argues is “a key conduit for creating future adherents to cultural Marxist narratives”. Perceived foes here would presumably range from climate scientists to liberal academics to university campuses that ban offensive speech.

Third on the list is the “deep state”. With his flair for pretentious verbosity, Higgins claims that with no considerations other than furthering its own power, “the deep state truly becomes, as Hegel advocated, god [sic] bestriding the earth”. Pro-Trump media such as Breitbart have frequently railed against intelligence agencies for leaking against the president. On Thursday, the president said he did not have confidence in the former CIA director John Brennan, adding: “I shouldn’t maybe say that, but I will say it.”

. . .

Higgins’s memo, full of academic jargon and numerous references to Marxism, concludes that the “defense of President Trump is the defense of America” and compares him to Abraham Lincoln, although the hyper-suspicious Richard Nixon might be more accurate.

The memo produced a combination of amusement and fear among analysts. Ken Gude, a senior fellow on the national security team at the Center for American Progress thinktank in Washington, said: “It’s the craziest thing I’ve seen come out of the National Security Council staff, that’s for sure. It’s the bizarre ramblings of a conspiracy theorist. It’s unhinged.”

Gude noted that the list of Trump’s foes “could be read to describe just about everybody except for loyalists. It’s quite alarming to think this is how people close to the president view the world and view the country.”

. . .

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/13/donald-trump-white-house-steve
-bannon-rich-higgins


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Monday, August 21, 2017 10:46 AM

A month before Trump was inaugurated, Mother Jones looked at Trump’s many public remarks about nuclear war and noted that he’s often spoken as if he thinks nuclear war is inevitable. Here’s Trump in a 1990 Playboy interview:

I’ve always thought about the issue of nuclear war; it’s a very important element in my thought process. It’s the ultimate, the ultimate catastrophe, the biggest problem this world has, and nobody’s focusing on the nuts and bolts of it. It’s a little like sickness. People don’t believe they’re going to get sick until they do. Nobody wants to talk about it. I believe the greatest of all stupidities is people’s believing it will never happen, because everybody knows how destructive it will be, so nobody uses weapons. What bullshit.

This is a frightening thing to hear (Trump has admitted, “Look, I’m very much a fatalist”), but as the New York Daily News reports, over the years, he has actually laid out what he believes is the path to our salvation. Unsurprisingly, it involves Trump single-handedly saving humanity with his superior negotiation skills. Here’s an excerpt from a 1984 New York Times profile, in which a young Trump once again raised concerns about a nuclear holocaust:

His greatest dream is to personally do something about the problem and, characteristically, Donald Trump thinks he has an answer to nuclear armament: Let him negotiate arms agreements — he who can talk people into selling $100 million properties to him for $13 million. Negotiations is an art, he says and I have a gift for it.

Later that year, a Washington Post piece noted that Trump hoped to “perhaps one day fulfill his fantasy of becoming the U.S. negotiator on nuclear arms limitation talks with the Soviets.”

“It’s something that somebody should do that knows how to negotiate and not the kind of representatives that I have seen in the past.”

He could learn about missiles, quickly, he says.

“It would take an hour-and-a-half to learn everything there is to learn about missiles … I think I know most of it anyway. You’re talking about just getting updated on a situation …”

And despite access to the world’s top nuclear experts, the New York Times reported that Trump’s improvised threat to Kim Jong-un last week was the result of his belief that he alone understands how to deal with the dictator:

The president, people close to him say, believes he has a better feel for Mr. Kim than his advisers do. He thinks of Mr. Kim as someone used to pushing people around, and Mr. Trump thinks he needs to show that he cannot be pushed.

Joseph Cirincione, president of the Ploughshares Fund, an anti-nuclear-proliferation initiative, said Trump’s comparisons to the business world don’t make sense and that Trump’s view of nuclear weapons is deeply troubling.

“He doesn’t understand their role in our security policy. What he’s saying? He argues purely from a good gut instinct. Is that the way you make nuclear policy?”

Under President Trump, apparently the answer is yes.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/trump-thinks-about-nukes-
a-lot-doesnt-know-much-about-them.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 22, 2017 3:46 AM

A lot of people had predicted ahead of time that Trump would stare at the sun without protective glasses during the eclipse, and they were all well and truly vindicated.

Pictures of Trump foolishly burning his eyeballs at
www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/black-hole-sun

Jarett Wieselman @JarettSays
Trump will stare directly into the eclipse because everyone told him not to.
11:14 AM - Aug 21, 2017

Jules @jules_su
Can't wait for the photo of Donald Trump squinting directly into the eclipse to go viral.
10:50 AM - Aug 21, 2017

Ankit Panda @nktpnd
Someone's going to tell Trump not to stare at the sun today, but he's going to do it anyway and go blind. #Eclipse2017
8:53 AM - Aug 21, 2017

Katie P @applezismypal
Trump's aides are spending the day reminding him not to stare directly at the sun sp#SolarEclipse2017
7:24 AM - Aug 21, 2017

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:56 PM

The America First president just announced he's escalating the Afghanistan war.

And Trump's Afghanistan plan looks a lot like Obama's, with one major exception and one minor.

When Obama ordered reinforcements to Afghanistan in 2009, he said they’d start to be withdrawn within 18 months — a fixed deadline that infuriated critics from both parties. Trump, by contrast, repeatedly stressed in his Monday night address that there was no timetable for how long American troops would remain in Afghanistan. That effectively means the longest war in American history will extend into the indefinite future.

“Conditions on the ground -- not arbitrary timetables -- will guide our strategy from now on,” Trump said. Trump brings out his famous deal-making skills:

"In this struggle, the heaviest burden will continue to be borne by the good people of Afghanistan and their courageous armed forces. As the prime minister of Afghanistan has promised, we are going to participate in economic development to help defray the cost of this war to us."

That zipped by mighty quickly, didn’t it? Let’s rewind and pause a bit. What exactly does Trump mean? What does he plan to extract from Afghanistan to help “defray” the cost of the war? From the wiki that extract would be Afghan handwoven rugs and hand crafted antique replicas as well as leather and furs. The wiki notes that GNP data excludes opium production.

Transcript of speech is here:
www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/08/21/remarks-president-trump
-strategy-afghanistan-and-south-asia


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 22, 2017 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
A lot of people had predicted ahead of time that Trump would stare at the sun without protective glasses during the eclipse, and they were all well and truly vindicated.

Pictures of Trump foolishly burning his eyeballs at
www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/black-hole-sun

Jarett Wieselman @JarettSays
Trump will stare directly into the eclipse because everyone told him not to.
11:14 AM - Aug 21, 2017

Jules @jules_su
Can't wait for the photo of Donald Trump squinting directly into the eclipse to go viral.
10:50 AM - Aug 21, 2017

Ankit Panda @nktpnd
Someone's going to tell Trump not to stare at the sun today, but he's going to do it anyway and go blind. #Eclipse2017
8:53 AM - Aug 21, 2017

Katie P @applezismypal
Trump's aides are spending the day reminding him not to stare directly at the sun sp#SolarEclipse2017
7:24 AM - Aug 21, 2017

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



That is hilarious.

There's only 3 possible outcomes of this.

1. He goes blind and everyone has to admit to Second that he was right and Trump is stupid.

2. He was wearing some sort of special contacts from new tech that were made just for him, and looking at the sun and knowing what a media rage it would create in the aftermath was just another big fuck you to the MSM.

3. The eclipse making you go blind is just an old wives tale and the same people that tell new presidents all about Area 51 let him know about this too.

I seriously doubt he goes blind.

Anybody have their own speculations here?


P.S. I have to apologize to Brenda for saying "Video, or it didn't happen". I can't prove that these pics were actually from the eclipse, but Miliana is wearing pretty dark shades. I'll play.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2017 7:43 PM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

I seriously doubt he goes blind.

Anybody have their own speculations here?

P.S. I have to apologize to Brenda for saying "Video, or it didn't happen". I can't prove that these pics were actually from the eclipse, but Miliana is wearing pretty dark shades. I'll play.

He is blind to what happens around him. I seriously doubt Trump will be winning Afghanistan and there are thousands of days of video showing losing.

As a candidate, Trump argued for a more isolationist approach to foreign policy.

Recent foreign wars, he told his supporters, had drained America of blood and treasure at the expense of efforts such as education and infrastructure at home.

“So we’re on track now to spend, listen to this, $6 trillion — could have rebuilt our country twice — all together, on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Middle East,” Trump said during a speech in Cleveland during the campaign. “ Meanwhile, massive portions of our country are in a state of total disrepair.”

www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-afghanistan-
plan-20170821-story.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 22, 2017 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Second posts a video by The Young Turks entitled "Trump Wants To Kill Muslims With Pig Blood"

I respond with "Nope... not going to watch TYT".

Second quotes this, and then posts an article about something completely different and sources VOX.

It must be Wednesday.

The TYT video was completely accurate.

I guess you're just too dumb to accept accurate, reliable information. Stick with your Fox and Breitbart. They'll keep you living in your fantasy reality.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:02 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
The TYT video was completely accurate.



LOL....

"The TYT video was completely accurate."

That right there says everything anybody needs to know about you.

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