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Voted for Bush - voted for war, death, and lies. Voted for Bush - voted for war, death, and lies. Voted for Bush - voted for war, death, and lies. Voted for Bush - voted for war, death, and lies.

POSTED BY: Ghoulman
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 02:38
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Thursday, November 11, 2004 5:12 PM

What happened?

The rest of the world watched as the 2004 election came to a close and Bush/Cheney gaining a lead on the opposition without performing well on issues or debates.

The main issue was the so called "War in Iraq".

If it weren't so sad it would be a joke. The Democratic side refused to attack the Bush/Cheney White House for exactly what the entire world already knew - the Invasion of Iraq is illegal.

Don't Americans remember what happened only a year ago?

President Bush told the American people that those responsible for the 9/11 terror attacks on New York and the Pentagon were helped by Saddam Hussein and that Iraq was creating WMDs like gas and nuclear weapons to attack America.

But that turned out to be completely untrue. Even ridiculous!

It's been shown that the White House created all those lies and that Iraq had no WMDs since 1991. Now, if the American Intellegence people got this wrong for 11 years it isn't a "faulty" intellegence mistake - it's a f*ck up on a cosmic scale. Really, it's obvious the intellegence community knew Saddam wasn't a threat. After all, Powell said so himself in Feburary of 2001.

But the truth will set you free? Not in America. The truth is a casualty.

The Bush/Cheney White House is now determined to rule America with thier "elected" mandate.. a mandate they never mentioned during the election but was, one can only assume, implicitely implied - moving the War on Terror forward.

Wars of aggression in Afghanistan and Iraq; Massive build-up of the military and threats of more attacks; Repudiation of long-standing international treaties and agreements (ABM Treaty, Kyoto Protocol, International Criminal Court, Land Mine Ban, to name a few); Disregard, antagonism and mockery of the United Nations; Bush's policy of "pre-emption" put an end to the accepted standard of international relations and diplomacy and thrust the United States into the undisputed role of international bully.

World-wide opposition to these policies were arrogantly re-buffed and given no consideration by the newly empowered Bush administration. In the black and white world of GW Bush 'you were either with us or against us.'

If you voted for Bush you voted for more war, death, and lies.

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 5:14 PM

ooops, I've no idea how I messed up the title like that (thought I pasted the title in but .... but it did 3 times it seems! Ack!). Hopefully Haken will fix it.

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:55 PM

Bush will want to invade Iran in a matter of months. You can see it happening. They'll try to make Iraq look like a success story. Then, they'll argue we can take Iran from two fronts: Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran's that annoying country in the middle.

This election gave Bush the chance to do this.

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RUE
Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:58 PM

One thing I know is this - sooner or later a lot of people who voted for Bush will have their ox gored. It'll be different things for different people: for some they'll be saying 'yes I supported the war, but not to have ALL of my sons in the army all around the globe', or 'I supported the tax cuts, but now I'll have to work till I'm 74', or 'I thought the economy was not an issue but now no one in the family can find work' .... and I'll be waiting to say 'I told you so.'
Only fools think reality will not demand an accounting.

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:06 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Only fools think reality will not demand an accounting.


Once again you make the point like a laser.

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:17 PM

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Originally posted by GThing:
Bush will want to invade Iran in a matter of months. SNIP! ...


Nice points.
Well what can I say? Just a little musing... one thing I know about Empires is that when they go beyond thier borders they start to deteriorate. Like England occupieing India.

The USA is bankrupt. It's not widely talked about but things are really bad for the USA economically and a lot of people are wondering just how relevent America will be in the coming century. Kept an eye on your dollar lately?

Now, if the USA continues to spend all of it's money as if it were some crazy modernday Imperial Rome then it will soon find itself destitute.

The USA can't continue the way it's going right now. Any more incursions into sovereign nations is simply not possible for the US right now. God help the USA if the terrorists actually attack from some harbouring nation because the only thing the USA can do about it is to leave a note - "sorry, real terrorist attacks aren't real due to us being otherwise occupieing"

This is a major reason to be against Bush/Cheney... they are already bringing the USA down from being the powerful nation the USA should be. If I'm right the USA will be a banana republic in less than 10 years as corporate money abandons America.

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Friday, November 12, 2004 2:19 PM

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
What happened?

If it weren't so sad it would be a joke. The Democratic side refused to attack the Bush/Cheney White House for exactly what the entire world already knew - the Invasion of Iraq is illegal.




Probably because roughly 30% of Democrats in the House and 60% in the Senate voted for the Iraq War Resolution. Would they want to admit they'd voted for an "illegal" war? Assuming Bush lied (now don't start, Rue [Grin, Wink, Just Kidding, etc.]), would they want to admit they'd been fooled so easily?

If the Dems in Congress had stood firm on the war resolution and it had passed over their united objections, they could have argued it in the election campaign; but they didn't, so they couldn't.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, November 12, 2004 4:45 PM

^^^ bunch of hypocrites eh? I wouldn't have voted for the Democrates. I kept quiet but inside I hated Kerry.

Thanks Geezer and BTW don't think I haven't noticed your refusal to take part on the childish troll fest around here. I hope Haken and his little minions appreciate your class act.

Ralph Nader - the last sane man in America!

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Friday, November 12, 2004 5:31 PM

That is another GOOD point, I also think where that election when wonky was in the nomination process.

Now, how different ( if any differance ) would you have voted ( even if you can't vote ) if say the presidental nominations had gone like :

Republican : Senator John McCain

http://mccain.senate.gov/

Democrat : Ret General Wesley Clark

http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm

Both ( In my opinion anyway ) would have made excellent canidates, far better than Bush or Kerry.
Now with no, I hate Kerry / I hate Bush dynamic, who would be better here... and is their anyone else who might be better yet ?

" Don't Blame Me I Voted For Kudos "

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Friday, November 12, 2004 6:18 PM

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
SNIP! ...a lot of people are wondering just how relevent America will be in the coming century. SNIP! ...
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I'm so glad someone else brings this up - I have been saying for months America has about 50 years (if that) as a world power. We're on our way out. I point to the rest of the world to make my point:
- The EU: everyone's jumping on board - Turkey, Poland, TURKEY... while some dissenting voices decry the loss of independence (much the way the ignorant in the US whine about the UN), it's nice to see some real globalization occuring.
- China: we're seeing a country struggling to rise to its feet - and it will. It's succeeding. Sadly, it wants to model itself after the US (a car in every garage!), but it's a giant with 1.2 billion souls and it dwarfs the rest of us. The US is about to look a lot smaller.
- Russia: also at the end of a decades-long struggle to come into its own. Also talk of interest in joining the... you guessed it... EU.

World government is the way of the future, and the US just isn't on board. Couple that with an economy so bad even the jobs won't stay here and you've got a recipie for third-world casserole.

So... got that to look forward to...

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