Trump shared classified information with Russian officials

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6STRINGJOKER

Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:06 AM

I find it humorous because you spend so much time listening to the MSM and eating up all that bullshit that you have any more of a clue as to what's going on than I do. You're a funny guy T.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:27 AM

From another thread:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&mid=10308
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
There has been talk of Investigations into Russia causing influence in our Elections, particularly the November 2016 General Election. This is one topic. It may have relevance because the revelations of so much of Hilliary's Criminal Actions, Obstructions, and Falsehoods were supposed to be kept under wraps by the MSM Wing of the Democrap Party, and other Democraps as well. And, although Russia is unlikely to have forced Hilliary to commit these crimes, Russia may have had a hand in exposing Hilliary's vast accumulation of Criminal Acts.

This is the topic where actual investigations - several of them - exist.
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There has also been pretend talk of hoped-for investigations into Trump and Russia colluding in regards to influencing the Election. This nonsense has no merit, but the Democrap drumbeat has constantly tried to comingle this with the prior issue in hopes of coloring the perceptions of those not paying attention. This is a second, and separate topic.
This is the drumbeat of "Collusion" from the MSM and other Democraps. No investigations exist for this false narrative, but Libtards sincerely hope that drive-by media watchers will co-mingle this meritless accusation with the valid previous topic.
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Now there is talk of having an investigation into the failure to generate an investigation into the above meritless topic, unrelated to the possibly merited first topic. This is a third topic, separate from the first, but a spin-off of the second topic.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Like A LOT of things claimed about Trump, I'm keeping my eye out for, yanno, evidence. And like everything else, I'm still not seeing any. That this is still being flogged indicates somebody thinks it's gaining ground.

We must be a nation of the gullible.

Whoever said advertising doesn't work?

Evidence that Russia assisted in revealing Hilliary's crimes to the American Public - may be forthcoming, but what would be the point?

Evidence that the Trump Campaign colluded with Russia regarding the campaign - none so far, or on the horizon, and most officials agree there never will be any evidence found of this.

What about evidence of the actual known collusion to affect the Election? The collusion between Hilliary and CNN? Few do not know that CNN gave Hilliary the answers to the "Debate" questions before the so-called "Debate" - so where is the uproar about this known collusion?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:45 AM

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Originally posted by second:
In private, three administration officials conceded that they could not publicly articulate their most compelling — and honest — defense of the president: that Mr. Trump, a hasty and indifferent reader of printed briefing materials, simply did not possess the interest or knowledge of the granular details of intelligence gathering to leak specific sources and methods of intelligence gathering that would do harm to United States allies.

This seems like faulty logic. Sometimes the existence of the intelligence defines what the source was and who to kill to close the source.

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The reason you can’t publicly articulate this defense is that it’s ridiculously damning. A president who can’t be bothered to familiarize himself with briefing materials can’t be conducting high-level diplomatic meetings with the foreign minister of Russia.
www.vox.com/2017/5/16/15648948/trump-pivot

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, May 22, 2017 11:39 AM

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Here we don’t even have a body, let alone a smoking gun. Trump insists there’s no there there, but acts as if the there is everywhere.

What would an innocent man do? How would he behave? Wouldn't he want the authorities to overturn every rock to prove his innocence? Or would he, as you say, confuse and confound them to teach them, and the MSM, a lesson.

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He wants to prove that the MSM is fake news. What better way than to behave as if he IS guilty and flaunt that and provoke the media and the Democrats and even the GOP and cultivate this firestorm to the point where people are demanding justice with pitchforks on the steps of the White House only to lower the curtain and show that there was nothing going on at all...?

Whaaaaaat! Yeah that makes sense!

So basically Trump wants to fake out the MSM Fake News. Seriously dude!? If you're innocent or if you feel that there's nothing there, wouldn't you cooperate with the outfit investigating you. "Oooo, I know", says Trump, "I'll embarrass and humiliate them and then fire the guy who's directing the investigation. That'll teach 'em."

WRONG! That just gets everyone's attention, in the most wrong way possible. Here's what an innocent (sane) man would do:

He would cooperate..."OMG what a freaking nightmare!" (Marisa Tomei, I love you).
Yes, what a novel idea! He would volunteer to be interviewed, he would turn over any and all documents, he would even submit his tax returns - all to prove that he had nothing to do with it. But Nooooooooo, he listens to a bunch of Russians.

He insults the FBI (and other intelligence entities), he fires the lead US Attorney investigating the Russian Syndicate, he fires the acting Attorney General
investigating the man who lied to the Vice President (about his ties to the Russian Syndicate) and then, just for kicks, he fires the director of the FBI investigating the Russian Syndicate for hacking and tampering the very fabric of our American way of life. The cornerstone of our existence - Democracy.

I'm sensing a pattern here. If there's no there there! Then why the charade? Why go to all the trouble simply because you hate the media (a group of people that have made him rich beyond his dreams, aside from his father)? Why raise suspicions and doubt about your legacy as president? Are you that hard up for attention? Didn't mommy give you enough hugs when you were a little boy? Didn't Ivanka?
(okay, that was a low blow) But really, you think he wants to teach them a lesson.

If confusion is his endgame, then he has failed miserably. Do you think that the guys over at the FBI will say that there scared of being fired, and won't work full tilt until they uncover his dirty deals? Collusion, conspiracy, money laundering, meets with Russian officials, turns over coded documents, bars the American press from an important White House meeting.

You might want to ask if I think he's being framed? A Big Fat NO! This is the most crooked motherfucker on the face of the planet. I'm ashamed of this president.

SGG

JO753

Monday, May 22, 2017 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by second:There are only a few people Trump needs to please: two are the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority leader.

He only needz to pleez Putin.

If you take that perspectiv, everything he duz makes sens. Anything that makes the GoPs happy iz only insidental to serving Putin.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

SIGNYM

Monday, May 22, 2017 6:52 PM

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Originally posted by second:There are only a few people Trump needs to please: two are the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority leader. - SECOND

He only needz to pleez Putin.
If you take that perspectiv, everything he duz makes sens. Anything that makes the GoPs happy iz only insidental to serving Putin.

JO, does Putin have "the" vote that guarantees impeachment?

No?

Is Putin on the NYT/ WaPo/ CNN/ MSNBC editorial Board?

No?

Does he have moles in the FBI?

No?

So tell me, HOW does Putin manage to save Trump's ass?

I'm not being sarcastic, I expect a serious and thoughtful answer. One which I'm afraid you will refuse to provide.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

SIGNYM

Monday, May 22, 2017 7:09 PM

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In private, three administration officials conceded that they could not publicly articulate their most compelling — and honest — defense of the president: that Mr. Trump, a hasty and indifferent reader of printed briefing materials, simply did not possess the interest or knowledge of the granular details of intelligence gathering to leak specific sources and methods of intelligence gathering that would do harm to United States allies.- SECOND

This seems like faulty logic. Sometimes the existence of the intelligence defines what the source was and who to kill to close the source.- JSF

Yanno for WEEKS ahead of this meeting, it had been mentioned in the press that onboard laptops were being banned from flights originating from some countries.

Anyone with two neurons could have guessed that they represented a terrorist threat. Anyone with three neurons could have picked out a very short list of possible suspects (ISIS most likely, al Qaida a distant second), and anyone with five neurons and a little bit of intelligence information could have picked out where this information could have reliably come from: The Middle East, but not Saudi Arabia and its partners, or Iran and it's partners, or Russia and it's partners. That leaves a very short list of Israel, Turkey ... and ...? (nobody)

Since I'm certain that Russia has its own intelligence services, I doubt that Trump COULD have told Russia anything that it hadn't either discovered on its own or figured out by reading our newspapers.

And if that's not the "classified information" that Trump shared, what was?

There are (now, once again) anonymous sources claiming unspecified things about nothing in particular. Apparently, the constant "leaking" of insinuations isn't enough for anyone to detect a pattern?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

JO753

Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:30 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So tell me, HOW does Putin manage to save Trump's ass?

He duznt reveal the dirt. Or the $$$.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 23, 2017 5:00 AM

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I see SIG is trying to rewrite her history regarding Trump.- THUGR

When I find my posts and quote them here, will I finally get the apology I so richly deserve from you? Will you finally admit you're a know-nothing lying troll? Of course not, That's because you're a lying, know-nothing troll.

Not my most immediate project ever, but here's a hint: Even SECOND, who is about as rabidly anti-Trump as one can imagine, didn't challenge me on that post, and the reason why is that she reads with comprehension. Unlike... er.... you.- SIGNY

So, I went back and looked at some of my olds posts about Trump. I didn't get through even half of the "Trump just because ... nah I can't say it" thread and here are all of the "great" things I've said about Trump

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Trump is a salesman... For Trump, the one driving factor seems to be - really- the art of the deal. It's a challenge for him to sell ... an investment, a TV show, a book ... candidacy. Unlike most of Trumps critics, I've listened closely to a few of his stump speeches, and I realize that 90% of what Trump is saying is sales pitch.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&p=2

Trump is a national capitalist

n addition to being somewhat manic (IMHO) Trump is a bully.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&p=3

I'd be the last person to say that Trump is a great Presidential candidate. I've looked at his business record and listened to his speeches, and what this guy is is a hypomanic (or maybe even manic) who's a great salesperson with no follow-though
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&p=5

First of all, it said everything I already said about Trump. That he's hypomanic most of the time, and a narcissist
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&p=6

Well, I've been saying for a while I think there's something not quit right about that man. You don't have a permanent case of hypomania without being a little off. ADHD also crossed my mind, which would explain the difficulties in school, complete lack of filter between brain and mouth, general sleeplessness, and need for attention.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&p=6

you [second] keep asking if I really think Trump will do this or that, and my answer is "no". I have said, more than once, that he's a loose cannon. A VERY loose cannon.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&p=7

Assuming this [TRUMP'S MEDIUM-GRADE MANIA] is shown to be true, for an armchair psychologist I guess I'm not too bad. I've been saying this almost since I started posting about Trump. So this armchair dx isn't new, at least not to me.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&p=9

this is a good sampling of Trump. Some of it is awkward, some of it is self-aggrandizing, a little bit of it is cringe-worthy, but there are also many rational, reasonable statements in it.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&p=11

FINALLY! Something about what Trump actually has said, not about what the DNC thinks Trump "will" say (Trump will Crumble Under Tough Questions).... or about Putin (Too many posts to count, because you folks are obsessed with Putin)! Or cartoons about Trump, claiming to know what Trump thinks, or nasty nude paintings of Trump, or all of the other irrelevant anti-Trump propaganda you all have posted.

I agree. I listened to Trump's Q&A before veterans, and most of the questions were "What will you do about (fill in the blank"? and I have to say that he managed to avoid answering most of the questions by simply criticizing previous administrations, or by providing general answers ("I'm going to make the VA something to be proud of") without providing any specifics.

And what Trump says reveals a person who is, un

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