Trump shared classified information with Russian officials
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Quote:There are several things wrong with your "just look at colonial America". George Washington, richest man in North America, was the general. His army officers were the elite of the colonies. His army was only thousands because the millions of colonists would not fight on his side. The top 1% have been running it from the beginning. The first pass at a constitution, The Articles of Confederation, was replaced because the top 1% did not have enough control. The Whisky Rebellion had George Washington stomp on the 99% who won't pay the top 1%. The top 1%, the slave-owning plantation elite, went to war with the rest of the country to hold on to their wealth. The Yankee top 1% went to war to slap them down and take the wealth for themselves.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Yes, because control by oligarchy is so much more preferable.
The problem is that Trump has an appetite for chaos, while Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, do not.
Frankly, the Dems and Repubs are gorram horrible, and our policies are so self-destructive that their preferred path will only end in tears, and worse. I would rather have a few feathers fly and hear some squawking than have things continue as they have been. We need change. And change isn't always safe or easy - just look at colonial America.
Trump is not the banner-holder that I want. But compared to the people, policies, and institutions that have ossified in DC I prefer Trump. If he can't drain the swamp, let him at least stir it up a little. If he can get rid of deep state asshats and self-dealing politicians, THEN he can leave office. Drain the fucking swamp first.
The 1% have always run the country. The other 99% can't concentrate for years at a time on fixing that problem. It never goes away because 1% know what they give up if they lose power and the 99% have amnesia about what is happening. Just wait a few months, with enough worthless entertainment or heavy drinking, and the 99% will forget again and again. Been happening for centuries. The 99% are very dependable in that way. Do I have to remind you that Trump is of the 1% and he won't be keeping his promises to the 99%?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:If Congress can find a plausible reason, it sure would impeach Trump. Congress wants it to look like Trump had it coming, getting what he deserves. They don't want it to appear to be like they are the trigger happy cop and Trump is the 12 year old child holding a toy gun when they shoot him down. Do I need to mention that Trump is in his second childhood?
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I ASKED YOU WHAT YOU THINK. DO YOU THINK IT'S OKAY THAT MEMBERS OF ANY CONGRESS WOULD IMPEACH ANY PRESIDENT BASED OFF OF GOSSIP THAT IS AVAILABLE.
YOU. YOU. YOU. YOU. YOU. YOU. YOU. YOU. YOU.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Seriously Second. WTF is wrong with you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_childhood
By the way, Putin is masterfully trolling the USA:
Trump may or may not have a recording system in the White House, but Vladimir Putin says he's willing to provide a record of last week's meeting between Trump and Russia's foreign minister.
www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/world/europe/trump-putin-russia.html
“If the U.S. administration finds this appropriate, we’re ready to provide a record of the conversation between Lavrov and Trump to the U.S. Senate and Congress,” the Russian president said. The Russian word for “record” can refer to an audio recording, but the Interfax news agency quoted a Kremlin aide, Yuri V. Ushakov, as telling reporters that Moscow had in its possession a written record of the conversation, not a recording.
Officials in Washington have said that Mr. Trump disclosed to Mr. Lavrov highly classified information provided by Israeli intelligence about a planned terrorist operation by the Islamic State extremist group.
Mr. Putin dismissed that claim, saying, “It’s hard to imagine what else these people who generate such nonsense and rubbish can dream up next.”
You have to give Putin credit: he sure knows how to troll us. I can hardly wait for the first Republican in Congress to take him up on his offer.
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This is all very sad. Quote:
Originally posted by second:
If Congress can find a plausible reason, it sure would impeach Trump. Congress wants it to look like Trump had it coming, getting what he deserves. They don't want it to appear to be like they are the trigger happy cop and Trump is the 12 year old child holding a toy gun when they shoot him down. Do I need to mention that Trump is in his second childhood?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_childhood
By the way, Putin is masterfully trolling the USA:
Trump may or may not have a recording system in the White House, but Vladimir Putin says he's willing to provide a record of last week's meeting between Trump and Russia's foreign minister.
www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/world/europe/trump-putin-russia.html
“If the U.S. administration finds this appropriate, we’re ready to provide a record of the conversation between Lavrov and Trump to the U.S. Senate and Congress,” the Russian president said. The Russian word for “record” can refer to an audio recording, but the Interfax news agency quoted a Kremlin aide, Yuri V. Ushakov, as telling reporters that Moscow had in its possession a written record of the conversation, not a recording.
Officials in Washington have said that Mr. Trump disclosed to Mr. Lavrov highly classified information provided by Israeli intelligence about a planned terrorist operation by the Islamic State extremist group.
Mr. Putin dismissed that claim, saying, “It’s hard to imagine what else these people who generate such nonsense and rubbish can dream up next.”
You have to give Putin credit: he sure knows how to troll us. I can hardly wait for the first Republican in Congress to take him up on his offer.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If Congress can find a plausible reason, it sure would impeach Trump.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I ASKED YOU WHAT YOU THINK. DO YOU THINK IT'S OKAY THAT MEMBERS OF ANY CONGRESS WOULD IMPEACH ANY PRESIDENT BASED OFF OF GOSSIP THAT IS AVAILABLE.
Not what you said and not what I asked.
Try again.
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Quote:It must be fine because the Republicans did that to Bill Clinton. I didn't think they had a solid case, since it was all gossip. The public didn't think so either. The result was that Clinton's approval ratings soared afterwards. I wouldn't want Trump's approval ratings to soar so I don't want Trump impeached for what is essentially gossip. But the way Trump is getting more erratic day by day, he'll do something that is criminal, if he hasn't yet.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:If Congress can find a plausible reason, it sure would impeach Trump.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I ASKED YOU WHAT YOU THINK. DO YOU THINK IT'S OKAY THAT MEMBERS OF ANY CONGRESS WOULD IMPEACH ANY PRESIDENT BASED OFF OF GOSSIP THAT IS AVAILABLE.
Not what you said and not what I asked.
Try again.
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The correct answer is No. Not under any circumstances.
Bill blew his load all over Monica's dress when I was still in highschool. I had nothing at all to do with any of that.
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Quote:The correct answer is Yes. An impeachment is not a criminal trial, although politicians want to pretend it is to avoid responsibility with dimwitted voters for a completely political decision. There is always the empty talk of justice and evidence. An impeachment is a power play, exactly the same as an election. One side wins that has the votes to match up with the Constitutional requirements. One side imposes their values on the other, exactly the same as any election and completely unlike any criminal trial, at least any normal trial where none of the jury members are relatives, friends, or employees of the accused or the prosecutor. In an impeachment everybody making the final decision is related to the accused.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
The correct answer is No. Not under any circumstances.
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I never actually looked up the definition to the word until you said that Second.
Quote:
1.
to accuse (a public official) before an appropriate tribunal of misconduct in office.
2.
Chiefly Law. to challenge the credibility of:
to impeach a witness.
3.
to bring an accusation against.
4.
to call in question; cast an imputation upon:
to impeach a person's motives.
5.
to call to account.
That's all it is? As you said, it certainly isn't presented as that, is it?
I've changed my mind. 100% in fact.
I've had to listen to the last 4 definitions thrown around by the Left and the MSM for the last 5 months. By all means, please impeach the President. Maybe one way or another we can get to the bottom of this then and we won't still be on this Russian narrative 4 years from now.
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And now we have Mueller taking over the investigation on the Russian Hack. So I hope that he calls for Comey's memos and holds them close to the vest. Those memos
are his Ace-in-the-Hole. When he gets a hold of those greedy bastards that sold their souls to Russia, he can question them from a position of strength; since he, and not everyone in the world, will know what's in those memos.
Of course, the White House and Trump will deny, deny, deny...but once he gets all the information, he'll have them choking on their own words. Comey should not testify until the Special Hangman has had a chance to unravel this mess.
Little-known facts such as these:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-team-knew-flynn-was-under
-investigation-before-he-came-to-white-house/ar-BBBfBzO?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
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Mr. Flynn’s disclosure, on Jan. 4, was first made to the transition team’s chief lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, who is now the White House counsel. That conversation, and another one two days later between Mr. Flynn’s lawyer and transition lawyers, shows that the Trump team knew about the investigation of Mr. Flynn far earlier than has been previously reported.
It was also reported by the NY Times. Of course, there are many misinformed people that believe the Right-Wing hype of the MSM - the Mainstream Media. The Right-Wingers fall for the crap that newspapers and news outlets, like the Times, make shit up. Yeah, that's a problem! So, Trump and company are the poor little rich boys who are victims to the all-powerful and all-knowing media. So, let's see....when the MSM reports on things like Trump's wealth. Well, naturally you believe that...since he has all this money. Of course they're not lying about that.
That, of course, is factual.
One question...How can you guys tell when the MSM is lying about Trump's wealth?
I need to borrow some money.
SGG
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Originally posted by SECOND:Quote:Jason Chaffetz, the finger-in-the-wind Chair of the House Oversight Committee, has requested all of former FBI Director James Comey’s records detailing interactions with Trump. Cathy McMorris Rogers from the House GOP leadership backed Chaffetz’s letter and so did Speaker Paul Ryan.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:Hillary would do worse. Instead of cooperating with Russia to defeat an actual threat - ISIS - she'd be escalating confrontation with Russia and jonesing for nuclear war.
What if Hillary had done what Trump has done?
But you don't care about that.
It’s an extremely modest move, but it’s a significant one. The policy of shutting down all oversight or investigation is no longer tenable. And once Republicans start tugging on the string, it’s not clear they can stop the whole sweater from unraveling. Here comes President Pence.
As Ross Douthat writes, if you “read the things that these people, members of his inner circle, his personally selected appointees, say daily through anonymous quotations to the press” it’s clear that “they have no respect for him, indeed they seem to palpate with contempt for him, and to regard their mission as equivalent to being stewards for a syphilitic emperor.”
www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/opinion/25th-amendment-trump.html
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Were the Comey memos signed by a Notary that was actually in the meetings? Unless they were, although they might be interesting to read, I don't think anybody would actually call them the Ace in the Hole.
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