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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria

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THGRRI

Friday, March 31, 2017 6:25 AM

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Originally posted by kpo:
It goes on, every day, away from the headlines.

Douma city, earlier today:

(Another video Sig and kiki will no doubt dismiss as "fake".)

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

You mean SIG, 1KIKI and dreamtrove/sockpuppet don't you?

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SIG says I'm a deep state troll.

oh my.

SOCKPUPPET

Friday, March 31, 2017 7:54 AM

Huh, I got added in here. Please replace me back to 6ix and River and sometimes G, where I belong.

KPO

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 6:12 PM

Gasping for life: Syria's merciless war on its own children

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/09/middleeast/syria-chemical-attack-war
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Editor's note: This story contains extremely graphic images of dead children.

She stares off into the distance as she gasps for air, her tiny chest heaving desperately to take in more oxygen. Her eyes are wide and unflinching, her pupils constricted, the panic behind them clear.

The little girl looks confused: she doesn't understand why she is dying, why she is lying in the back of a truck with other small children, some foaming at the mouth, others motionless, the life already gone from them.

The ground all around her is strewn with bodies, some wracked with convulsions, thrashing around in the mud as rescue workers attempt in vain to hose off the chemical agent that has blanketed them.

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

KPO

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 6:15 PM

The latest HRW report on the Syrian government's use of chemical weapons, including at Khan Shaykhun:

https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/report_pdf/syria0517_web_2.pdf

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

THGRRI

Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:54 AM

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Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
The latest HRW report on the Syrian government's use of chemical weapons, including at Khan Shaykhun:

https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/report_pdf/syria0517_web_2.pdf

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

Thanks KPO. Sadly, I have little hope that the work these people do will have any effect on stopping the war. Nor do I think the involvement from the US or other outside forces would have ANY positive influence on the outcome. It might actually cause more deaths of innocents. It's hard to think of any time in the last 50 years where there has been such a hell hole as Syria. That whole country will be dead bodies and concrete rubble and a bunker with Assad crouching in the corner when this is done.

Putin's getting desperate for a solution. Remember,
the Russian economy is roughly the size of Italy's. Their ambassador is meeting with Trump today.

KPO

Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:15 PM

Syrian Crematory Is Hiding Mass Killings of Prisoners, U.S. Says

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/world/middleeast/syria-assad-prison
-crematory.html?smid=tw-share

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“The attempt to cover up mass murders in the Assad crematorium is reminiscent of the 20th century’s worst offenses against humanity,” said Nikki R. Haley, the American ambassador to the United Nations.

KPO

Friday, June 30, 2017 5:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
The latest HRW report on the Syrian government's use of chemical weapons, including at Khan Shaykhun:

https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/report_pdf/syria0517_web_2.pdf

OPCW report concludes use of sarin in Khan Shaykhun attack (another blow to the conspiracy theorists):

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-fact-finding-mission-confirms-u
se-of-chemical-weapons-in-khan-shaykhun-on-4-april-2017/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/global-watchdog-confirms-nerve-ag
ent-used-in-april-attack-on-syrian-civilians/2017/06/30/aa316cb6-5c16-11e7-aa69-3964a7d55207_story.html?utm_term=.7c9254d75732

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

SIGNYM

Friday, June 30, 2017 6:59 PM

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The FFM’s [Fact Finding Mission of the OPCW] mandate is to determine whether chemical weapons or toxic chemicals as weapons have been used in Syria; it does not include identifying who is responsible for alleged attacks.

www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-fact-finding-mission-confirms-use-of-ch
emical-weapons-in-khan-shaykhun-on-4-april-2017

KRAPO: You have the same problem as GSTRING - "guilty until proven innocent". The very title of your thread reveals your mind set, therefore nobody should expect anything objective from you.

Also, I realize that the OPCW's

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FFM was unable to visit Khan Shaykhun.

Therefore, the chain of custody was broken.

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The rapid deployment to a neighbouring country, however, enabled the team to attend autopsies, collect bio-medical samples from casualties and fatalities, interview witnesses and receive environmental samples.

It would be instructive to drill down on this data.
How many samples were brought to the FFM? Five? A hundred?
How were they geographically distributed at the original site?
Out of all of the samples brought to the FFM, how many showed Sarin residue?
Was it in expected concentrations? Were they able to look for impurities and stabilizers?
Did they test for anything else?

A lot more info could be gleaned from the raw data if it was available.

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BTW, that's what I do for a living: I munch through raw data - both ours and other laboratory's - of trace chemical analyses. Sometimes its of commercial products, sometimes its of toxic releases. I do everything from look at the raw analysis data to mapping the results to giving the results a "sanity check", and I'm VERY good at what I do. VERY good. You have no idea of the breadth of errors that I'm capable of detecting. When our agency staff has a report they really want checked over, they give it to me. And just to give you an idea how closely our work resembles that of the OPCW, one of our chemists, who was trained in my group, just got a job at an international chemical-weapons-monitoring group doing an analysis that's almost exactly the same as ours.

That's why I go on so much about physical evidence. It can be very important; OTOH it can be equivocal, flawed, or even manipulated.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

KPO

Wednesday, August 23, 2017 12:26 AM

UN investigates chemical weapons cooperation between Assad and North Korea, intercepts two shipments:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-syria-un-idUSKCN1B12G2

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Syrian regime collusion with ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

KPO

Wednesday, August 23, 2017 12:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW, that's what I do for a living: I munch through raw data - both ours and other laboratory's - of trace chemical analyses. Sometimes its of commercial products, sometimes its of toxic releases. I do everything from look at the raw analysis data to mapping the results to giving the results a "sanity check", and I'm VERY good at what I do. VERY good. You have no idea of the breadth of errors that I'm capable of detecting. When our agency staff has a report they really want checked over, they give it to me. And just to give you an idea how closely our work resembles that of the OPCW, one of our chemists, who was trained in my group, just got a job at an international chemical-weapons-monitoring group doing an analysis that's almost exactly the same as ours.

That's why I go on so much about physical evidence. It can be very important; OTOH it can be equivocal, flawed, or even manipulated.

Sig, if you really knew your shit and could critically review evidence, you wouldn't fall for so many dumb conspiracy theories. Was it you or kiki who claimed that MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian fighter jet?

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Syrian regime collusion with ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521