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French elections, and France in general

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THGRRI

Monday, May 8, 2017 9:12 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Funny how SIG and 1kik1 are sad the angry right fascists didn't win. Hmmm
You mean we support the 'angry right fascists' because were so ... RUSSIAN?

Yep, that's right. And hey, here's a video for you.

SIGNYM

Monday, May 8, 2017 10:13 PM

Yes, commentary being posted as news. THUGR, will you EVER learn?

In any case, this is about France. KIKI brought up an interesting parallel with Greece. But I would then point to South and Central America, and (eventually Africa) as parallels.

First of all, in answer to KIKI's question about why there aren't demonstrations and riots in Greece against unending "austerity"* - There are, you just don't read about them in the MSM. You have to keep an eye out, or read Greek websites, to know what's going on .... the pro EU press sure isn't going to tell you!

Greek lawmakers vote for austerity as protests turn ugly (5/9/2016)
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/europe/greek-debt-crisis-fourth-bailout/

Greeks Protest European Austerity One Year After Showdown With Lenders (7/06/16)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/greeks-protest-austerity-on-refere
ndum-anniversary_us_577d4ec3e4b0344d514d9169

Greek police fire teargas at pensioners during anti-austerity protest (10/3/16)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/03/greek-police-fire-tearga
s-at-pensioners-during-anti-austerity-protest-athens

Refugee children in Greece face protest on first day of school (10/8/17)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37613318

Riots in Athens at Obama's Visit (11/24/16)
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/732682/Barack-Obama-Greece-Athens-
riot-protest-Alexis-Tsipras-politics-economy-European-Union

Greeks protest as government, lenders discuss new austerity (3/1/17)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eurozone-greece-bailout-review-idUSK
BN1685JB

Greek farmers clash with police in Athens during reforms protest (3/8/17)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eurozone-greece-protests-farmers-idU
SKBN16F0VJ

Greece protest over taxes and pensions (5/8/17)
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/europe/greek-debt-crisis-fourth-bailout/

This is just a casual search result from MSM reporting. If I were to scour Greek sites, or (better yet) be able to perform a Lexis-Nexus search, I'd probably find a lot more.

The problem with Greece is that there is no unifying party and -especially- no mercenaries or violent subgroups to orchestrate a "color revolution" as in Ukraine.

As far as life under Macron, THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN IN FRANCE, AND IT WILL BE EQUALLY UNDER-REPORTED.

French Activists, Unions Clash With Riot Police In First Anti-Macron Protest
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-08/watch-live-french-activists-u
nions-clash-riot-police-first-anti-macron-protest

* "Austerity" is just a way of bleeding the Greek people to pay German, Dutch, and Finnish banks for the loans that a corrupt Greek government took out. This is no different than imposing "austerity" on Brazilians for the loans that the military government took out, or any of the other austerity measures imposed by the IMF on many places in the world. It is the typical upward-directed money-conveyor that the wealthy get to set up for their own increased wealth and power.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

THGRRI

Monday, May 8, 2017 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, commentary being posted as news. THUGR, will you EVER learn?

Actually SIG, it would be more accurate to ask, will you ever stop lying. I never said it was news and not commentary. I never said anything except, here's a video for you. You suggesting I claimed it was news is the lie.

The only thing achieved with the wild and subjective post that follows your lie, is your exposure as being nuts. Someone with no reading and comprehension skills. Your post is way off the topic of the video and the point it made.

SIGNYM

Monday, May 8, 2017 10:58 PM

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Your post is way off the topic of the video and the point it made.

Actually THUGR, the person who lacks comprehension and reading skills is you.

You posted a video of entirely unsubstantiated rumor and innuendo about RUSSIA.

I MADE ONE COMMENT ABOUT IT, AND THEN INTRODUCED THE CHANGE IN TOPIC BY PREFACING MY POST WITH

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In any case, this is about France.

There is it .... in black and white. Not a video where you might miss a word or phrase, but actual permanent words that you had ample opportunity to read and re-read and to understand what they meant. I mean, dude, if you're going to cast aspersions about lack of comprehension, try not doing exactly what you accuse others of doing.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

THGRRI

Monday, May 8, 2017 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Your post is way off the topic of the video and the point it made.
Actually THUGR, the person who lacks comprehension and reading skills is you.

You posted a video of entirely unsubstantiated rumor and innuendo about RUSSIA.

I MADE ONE COMMENT ABOUT IT, AND THEN INTRODUCED THE CHANGE IN TOPIC BY PREFACING MY POST WITH

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In any case, this is about France.
There is it .... in black and white. Not a video where you might miss a word or phrase, but actual permanent words that you had ample opportunity to read and re-read and to understand what they meant.

You were addressing me and started with a lie. It's there for all to see. Then you imply that the video is not about France. Suggesting you will bring the thread back on topic. The commentary includes the opinion that Putin fucked up in a big way. By pissing off the winner of the election by hacking him.

Lies and subterfuge SIG, you're all lies and subterfuge. Lies and deceit used to achieve your goal. The advancement of Putin's agenda. I'd say you are failing miserably, as is Putin. He's put himself into a box. While continuing to do things that are infuriating those outside his realm of influence.

SIGNYM

Monday, May 8, 2017 11:20 PM

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Your post is way off the topic of the video and the point it made. _THUGR

Actually THUGR, the person who lacks comprehension and reading skills is you.
You posted a video of entirely unsubstantiated rumor and innuendo about RUSSIA.
I MADE ONE COMMENT ABOUT IT, AND THEN INTRODUCED THE CHANGE IN TOPIC BY PREFACING MY POST WITH
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In any case, this is about France.
There is it .... in black and white. Not a video where you might miss a word or phrase, but actual permanent words that you had ample opportunity to read and re-read and to understand what they meant. - SIGNY

You were addressing me and started with a lie. It's there for all to see. Then you imply that the video is not about France. Suggesting you will bring the thread back on topic. The commentary includes the opinion that Putin fucked up in a big way. By pissing off the winner of the election by hacking him.

Lies and subterfuge SIG, you're all lies and subterfuge. Lies and deceit used to achieve your goal. The advancement of Putin's agenda. I'd say you are failing miserably, as is Putin. He's put himself into a box. While continuing to do things that are infuriating those outside his realm of influence.

The video is about Putin ... yanno, the object of your endless man-crush .... and whether or not ("President for life") Putin's (presumed) "interference" in foreign elections makes him the Bond-type villain portrayed in western press, or simply an incompetent meddler who pissed off John McCain and ensured permanent sanctions. It's not about Macron or France's future, or what's going to happen with unemployment, labor law, farmers, immigration, terrorist attacks, and politics IN FRANCE.

I'm not going to provide a transcript detailing exactly how little Macron is part of the video. It's there for everyone to listen to and decide for themselves.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

THGRRI

Tuesday, May 9, 2017 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Your post is way off the topic of the video and the point it made.

Actually THUGR, the person who lacks comprehension and reading skills is you.
You posted a video of entirely unsubstantiated rumor and innuendo about RUSSIA.
I MADE ONE COMMENT ABOUT IT, AND THEN INTRODUCED THE CHANGE IN TOPIC BY PREFACING MY POST WITH
Quote:
In any case, this is about France.
There is it .... in black and white. Not a video where you might miss a word or phrase, but actual permanent words that you had ample opportunity to read and re-read and to understand what they meant. - SIGNY

You were addressing me and started with a lie. It's there for all to see. Then you imply that the video is not about France. Suggesting you will bring the thread back on topic. The commentary includes the opinion that Putin fucked up in a big way. By pissing off the winner of the election by hacking him.

Lies and subterfuge SIG, you're all lies and subterfuge. Lies and deceit used to achieve your goal. The advancement of Putin's agenda. I'd say you are failing miserably, as is Putin. He's put himself into a box. While continuing to do things that are infuriating those outside his realm of influence.

Yes, the video is about Putin. Putin and how he interferes with elections. Including the French election. It's also about how stupid a thing that is turning out to be. He's only hurting himself and Russia.

You created this thread. It is about the French election. Putin paid for the losing candidates campaign, gave her millions in loans and hacked the winners campaign. The video is pertinent. Wow SIG, your deflecting away from your own threads topic.

Opps, we see you

SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 9, 2017 12:07 AM

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Yes, the video is about Putin.

The video is about Putin. Not France. Not Macron. Glad we agree. That is why I signaled a change in topic.

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Putin paid for the losing candidates campaign, gave her millions in loans and hacked the winners campaign.

This is where you fail to differentiate between fact and opinion, which is exactly why I said that you posted the commentary video as fact. Thanks for validating my idea that you confuse opinion with fact.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

THGRRI

Tuesday, May 9, 2017 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Yes, the video is about Putin.
The video is about Putin. Not France. Not Macron. Glad we agree.

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Putin paid for the losing candidates campaign, gave her millions in loans and hacked the winners campaign.
This is where you fail to differentiate between fact and opinion, which is exactly why I said that you posted the commentary video as fact. Thanks for validating my idea that you confuse opinion with fact.

I had it wrong. Russian sympathizer is not your primary distinction. Loser, yep loser is your primary distinction. Again you post a lie. We don't agree. And then there's this.

MOSCOW — Russian interference in the American elections last year was downright subtle compared to what we’ve seen this week in the run-up to French presidential elections. Russia’s Putin Picks Le Pen to Rule France.

The French news magazine L’Express was quick to note the anomaly as well, calling it “altogether exceptional” that Putin would receive a presidential candidate so close to an election.

In 2014, when Le Pen’s National Front Party could not secure any loans from French banks, she turned to Russia and received millions of dollars from a now defunct institution there. Putin, at the same time, received endorsement from her party for his takeover of Crimea. She has consistently blamed Washington for starting the new “cold war.” So it was widely assumed that Le Pen was in Moscow Friday as a loyal ally looking for more funding.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/24/russia-s-putin-picks-
le-pen-to-rule-france

SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 9, 2017 1:38 AM

Look at the Icelandic response to financial collapse.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.