is she serious?
POSTED BY: STEVEthePIRATE
UPDATED: Saturday, January 8, 2005 00:11
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Quote:"Ignorant clowns..." great way to start a post...
Originally posted by Ruxton:
Any of you ignorant clowns ever stop to think what Joss Whedon would have done WITHOUT Sarah? Don't you realize what SHE did for him? If Buffy had flopped because of inept acting on the part of the main character, none of you would know who Joss Whedon is today.
Sarah's acting on the show was so good that it is constantly being overlooked by so-called movie editors in these forums. But if you mentally block out her character from ANY episode, you get NOTHING left. They just don't make sense without her subtle input. That is the mark of great acting. You don't notice it, but without it the show would have been a great zero.
Sarah seems to be a wonderful person who -- not even slightly whining -- declared it was time for her to move on. Why can't you all understand that, and the fact that the story has two sides?
Found another actress? There are thousands of talented one out there, only to be discovered.
Joss has had success not only because of "Buffy". He has written many screenplays {Alien Resurrection is one}. I doubt the 'lack' of Sarah Michelle Gellar would have dampened Mr. Whedon's career.
"Subtle acting!" - is that why is her portfolio so ... spare and withered? She defiantly is NOT an 'A' list or even 'C' list actress, despite her ranking on IMDB. Every part she plays seems to be 'Buffy' - no real variation.
The excellent supporting cast of the series of 'Buffy' was the real strength. Mz. Gellar is just a character actor - lacking that true spark of a complete actress.
How do you know she is a wonderful person? Do you know her? My contacts tell me she is a true prima-donna, but that could just be because she treated them like they were beneath her while she was on set.
But hey, everybody has their own opinions and experiances!
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Speaking as an ignorant clown, I would have to say that if it weren't Gellar, Whedon would have found someone else comparable -- much like he did when he recast the Willow role from the pilot presentation to the current Willow we know today.
And I'm sure he would have done the same with every other cast member, all relative unknowns before Buffy and Angel, had they not met his expectations.
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I have to say Buffy was always my least favourite character on Buffy.
I'm not bothered about the fact that she wanted to move on, that's understandable, but it was that dig at Joss that bothered me. If she did say that about Joss then either she's being a bit of a bitca or he was a bitca who would yell at her and so deserved what she said (would Joss do that?). But then how often do actors get quoted out of context or without the joking tone the comment was made in?
I was worried about her attitude towards the Buffy animated series in a recent interview; she didn't seem to have a lot of faith in Joss. It's always a little weird to find out that the people our fandom is based on have issues which we really ought to expect seeing as how they're people. I guess we'll never really get both sides of the story as apart from what they say in interviews it's a private thing. But inquiring minds want to know. 
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Quite frankly, well said Sarah.
Sums up pretty well how I felt about the series - I was a rabid fan until season 4, a serious fan until the second half of season 6, and I still haven't bothered watching the final few episodes.
And probably never will.
It wasn't Buffy anymore. Who can blame her for quitting?
Stray
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she may be whiny and perhaps a tad ungrateful but she most certainly is a brillant actress. I didn't see any part of Buffy in cruel intention a bit of Cordelia though. She committed alot of time to the show her choice to move on and oh well. It is a bit of a bummer to hear her disparage the show though.
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There are two sides to every story, people are misquoted, and things taken out of context. Who are we to say boo to Sarah? Did we work on the Buffy set every day and see their interaction? As we all know some people just don't get along no matter how good a person they are. Personalities clash. Stuff happens. She was young when she took the job, and it had been her life for many years. There is only so much a person take. So did we finally meet the real her in these interviews? I kind of figured something was up with her when she wouldn't be in the last season of Angel, no matter what movie she was doing at the time! And she did have her stunning acting moments on Buffy, no use in lying about it. But the way she is acting now is not professional, if the interviews are to be believed, and she is burning her bridges to some potentially awesome acting roles.
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I'd say that seeing Sarah in interviews and the type of person that she seems to me (or at least has become), that she's definitly a person that'd nag on an issue. I'm smart, I'm creative, listen to me because I'm me!
So, if she kept on Joss for some "creative" change or story line or whatever, it doesn't matter how patient someone is, they're going to break at some point.
And she is *no* brilliant actor. She's bearly able to reach into decent. She's *just* good enough to be noticed and get some jobs. And as soon as she gets old enough not to be, or the industry doesn't want, the "cute little blonde" anymore, she's sunk. Beyond that, not so much, nothing special.
The only thing she *had* going for her was Buffy. Now that seems to be messed up, and by her own hand none-the-less. And this is besides all the unprofessional behaviour mentioned elsewhere in this thread.
It's sad really.
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This might seem like a crazy thought but Sarah is entitled to her own opinion! I can't believe the amout of people jumping all over her just because she has a negative opinion of the show. If she didn't like where they took the character or the show she shouldn't have to just keep her mouth shut and praise Joss for giving her a career, she should be allowed to give honest opinions about how she felt. Especially when she's asked a question about it. It's not like she's wandering the streets, walking up to strangers and telling them Joss is a jerk. It seems that she REALLY didn't like where they took the show after season 5, a lot of people didn't, to be honest I'm suprised only one of the cast had a problem with it.
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Okay, I am personally not interested in this game of he said - she said. Doesn't affect me one bit.
However, I do have to say that - in my opinion - SMG can act. I honestly haven't seen a lot of her movies, but I can use a specific Buffy example: "Who Are You?" SMG played Faith in this episode, if you'll remember. Now, I don't know about the rest of you, but both SMG and Eliza Dushku did awesome jobs portraying the other actress's character. You could truly see it in their eyes, mannerisms, voices... This episode, for me, was a true indication of the potential that these women have to be wonderful actresses.
Debate all you want on what she's said, but I'd highly recommend that we not allow the conversation to degrade into petty insults, such as "Joss couldn't have done the show without her" or "She owes Joss everything". If she didn't enjoy the experience, then she didn't. Her opinion, her call. She has the right to say anything she wants, even if we don't like it. 
Anyway, like I said, I personally don't care what she's said. I'm going to start ignoring threads like this - they just aren't a productive use of my time... 
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