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Is Trump Nuts?
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Sunday, May 7, 2017 11:04 AM
Do you ever watch RT?
Its interesting that they are much slicker than the GoP propaganda outlets. Insted uv being blatantly partisan they seem to prezent mostly true and unbiased stuff. Unlike Fox, RT iz careful to not squander its credibility.
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Sunday, May 7, 2017 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Jo, you've always been a self important twat.
When did you decide to be a douche as well?
All I coud find wuz a Post-It-Note in the BIZ IDEUZ folder in the ZOL filing cabinet. it readz (tranzlated from NQaLF): "Open a personal service salon for women - massages, pussy cleaning, waxing, sauna. Maybe not a money maker, but good way to find hot chicks."
Its from 11-3-2007.
And I found this in the urban dictionary:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=douche
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Guy 1: "I don't understand how Joey has any friends, he's a total douche."
Guy 2: "I guess girls like that whole asshole attitude."
Thats frum April 15 2011. Coud I be the 'Joey' he iz talking about?
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Sunday, May 7, 2017 2:11 PM
Quote:Not impressed with your news sources. You have the entire internet at your fingertips, and you listen to such limited sources?
Originally posted by JO753:
I usually watch the NBC evening newz with Lester Holt.... Then therez Meet the Press with Chuck Todd and if I'm getting the signal, This Week with George Stefanopolous on sunday morning.
Quote:Perhaps you missed it when KIKI posted it, but Maddow is a commentator. that's like saying that I get my news from Rush Limbaugh.
Most uv the newz on the TrumPutin scandal I get from Rachel Maddow on MSNBC on their website or Youtube.
Quote:This, from the person who gets their "facts" from a commentator.
Its not hard to see whoz lying wen they substitute opinion for fact or make claimz that are eazily disproven.
Quote:Which you get from commentators like Maddow?
A rite wing frend uv mine often sendz me links to storyz that 'prove' hiz case agenst Obama, Hillary, or whoever and, with no exceptionz, I hav debunked the story within minits with real facts.
Here's the thing, JO: I don't trust your ability to separate out "real facts" from "opinions". It would be a worthwhile discussing your information-winnowing process.
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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:19 PM
Quote:The entire USA is at Trump's fingertips, yet Trump celebrated Obamacare repeal by lying about what the bill does. Unless he is crazy, he has to know he is lying.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not impressed with your news sources. You have the entire internet at your fingertips, and you listen to such limited sources?
At the Rose Garden victory press conference following the House’s passage of the American Health Care Act, Trump precisely explained Trumpcare.
“I'm telling you, no matter where I went,” he said, “people were suffering so badly with the ravages of Obamacare.” But thanks to AHCA, he promised, people will see relief.
“Your premiums,” he said, “they're going to start to come down.”
Back in the bad old days of the Affordable Care Act, “when it comes to deductibles they were so ridiculous that nobody got to use their current plan.”
But, Trump insisted, help is on the way. “Make no mistake about it,” he said, “make no mistake. I think most importantly, yes, premiums will be coming down. Yes, deductibles will be coming down.”
People who believe Trump claims are in for a rude awakening.
But the AHCA doesn’t do either of those things. After all, how could it? The heart of the bill is a $600 billion tax cut for affluent households and health industry corporations. The bill contains no reforms to the American health care payment or delivery systems. All it does is shift money around, largely by taking it away from subsidizing health coverage for older, sicker, and poorer people and plowing it into tax cuts. It eliminates a 3.8 percent tax that applied to capital gains, dividend, and interest income for families with $250,000 or more in income ($125,000 for singles). It eliminates a 0.9 percent tax on wage income in excess of $250,000 a year ($200,000 for unmarried people).
The problem is that Trump is actually governing and needs to worry about what his policies actually accomplish. Whether AHCA passes the Senate or not, the general trend toward higher premiums and deductibles is going to continue in for the foreseeable future. If AHCA passes, the trend will tend to accelerate rather than slow.
And people will be angry — and rightly so — that the president broke his promises to them. Is Trump nuts for making claims about Trumpcare that are not true?
But maybe Trump is depending on you not remembering in a year what he promised now about Trumpcare? Then he is nuts to have saved his remarks on a website run by the Whitehouse. www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/05/04/remarks-president-trump
-healthcare-vote-house-representatives
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sunday, May 7, 2017 7:34 PM
Quote:". . . can't distinguish the difference". That certainly covers what goes on here about 99% of the time. Just to give an example of lying that does not involve Trump, but does involve Trumpcare:
Originally posted by G:
BTW - SIG, as you know (I think), there is a difference between lying commentators and honest ones. Maybe those words are foreign to you? Gods, maybe you can't distinguish the difference?!? That would explain a lot, actually.
Quote:https://qz.com/977779
Idaho congressman Raul Labrador is facing the ire of his constituents over his vote in favor of the Republican health care bill this week. During a Friday morning town hall, Labrador refuted a voter’s claim that losing health insurance is a death sentence. “That line is so indefensible,” Labrador said. “Nobody dies because they don’t have access to health care.”
Research has consistently linked being uninsured to higher mortality rates. One example in Labrador’s district: 36-year-old Idaho Falls resident Jenny Steinke, who died of an asthma attack in 2015 after being unable to treat her condition due to a lack of insurance.
In the USA, there is only a single theoretical penalty for lying, paid only at the next election, and often not even then because the old lies have been forgotten. At fireflyfans.net there is never a next election, never a penalty for lying, and the Republicans here know it and follow lying Labrador's example of accusing their accusers of being liars.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:05 PM
Quote:I agree. And I wouldn't call Maddow a liar, exactly, because she sure believes what she says.
BTW - SIG, as you know (I think), there is a difference between lying commentators and honest ones.
Quote:Yes, it would.
Maybe those words are foreign to you? Gods, maybe you can't distinguish the difference?!? That would explain a lot, actually.- GSTRING
Tell me, GSTRING, what distinction do you make, if any, between honesty and truth?
Quote:YES! We agree on something!
". . . can't distinguish the difference". That certainly covers what goes on here about 99% of the time. - SECOND
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As far as "truth" is concerned, people tend not to think about inconvenient truth. So despite all of the evidence of a "deep state's" existence (brought to you over the years by whistleblowers who've sacrificed for bringing you the signal) and the cabal of an "intelligence community" which operates mostly for its own power, privilege, and money, you pretty much plug your ears and refuse to think about the consequences about the situation and how it distorts our political and policy process.
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I don't watch Fox and I don't listen to Rush or any of that bullshit either.
Az you keep insisting. I dont recall you telling us where you get your newz.
Here, a lot of the time. Friends and family. Maybe I stumble upon something when I am looking at something I'm actually interested in online...
The politicians on either side are liars, and the so-called journalists that tow either line are no better. I base my belief of things off of life experiences, the experiences of people I care about, books I've read by actual talented people that can use their brain without some overpaid talking head telling them what to think.
I've been known to change my mind about things. When I look around here, I see that I'm pretty much the only one who does that. I think that's because most of the time you guys only listen to crap that you want to hear and dismiss all the rest as bullshit. I'm of the mind that 90% of the stuff either side says is bullshit already.
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Monday, May 8, 2017 6:17 PM
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Monday, May 8, 2017 6:52 PM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not impressed with your news sources. You have the entire internet at your fingertips, and you listen to such limited sources?
1. Didnt say I dont uze the internet.
2. The internet iz not a uniformly reliable sours. The fact that you can find total nonsens even more eazily than the truth makes it a good plase for idiots to lead themselvez into insanity.
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...Maddow is a commentator.
Wut do you think definez that job title?
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...from the person who gets their "facts" from a commentator.
If I get a fact from a wino in the gutter, I'm not automaticly dismissing it, even tho I understand he duznt hav an obvious motive to provide good info.
Serious journalists (commentatotorz, reporterz, newz readerz, etc.) value their credibility above everything else.
Propagandists do not. Their top priority iz to sway public opinion in favor uv their cauze. If stirring in a lie with the facts helps, they do it. The clever wunz uze that az a last rezort kuz they know it risks degrading their credibility.
Wen propagandists know the audiens iz on their side, they tend to let the BS fly free. Witness Fox Cable Newz, Rush Limbaugh, Lew Rockwell, Glen Beck, etc etc etc etc... the jiant rite wing eko chamber that 6string apparently gets 2nd hand frum hiz 'frendz'.
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Tuesday, May 9, 2017 9:08 PM
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Originally posted by JO753:
If I get a fact from a wino in the gutter, I'm not automaticly dismissing it, even tho I understand he duznt hav an obvious motive to provide good info.
That sounds like an off handed remark about me. I'll let it slide.
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Serious journalists (commentatotorz, reporterz, newz readerz, etc.) value their credibility above everything else.
LOL... what world are you living in?
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Propagandists do not. Their top priority iz to sway public opinion in favor uv their cauze. If stirring in a lie with the facts helps, they do it. The clever wunz uze that az a last rezort kuz they know it risks degrading their credibility.
Wen propagandists know the audiens iz on their side, they tend to let the BS fly free. Witness Fox Cable Newz, Rush Limbaugh, Lew Rockwell, Glen Beck, etc etc etc etc...
Oh.... silly me. That world. The one where everybody who reports for your "side" is right and virtuous and just and everybody who reports for the other "side" is evil and manipulative. Got it.
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the jiant rite wing eko chamber that 6string apparently gets 2nd hand frum hiz 'frendz'.
Maybe that's why I come to places like this to get differing opinions. I've already said that I'm the only person left of us here that actually changes there minds about anything and that includes you.
I don't know where you get that I'm a Right Wingnut though...
Let's see...
1. I do not deny that we're trashing the planet.
2. I support gay marriage as long as you don't force any church to recognize or perform it if it doesn't want to.
3. I'm for ending the war on drugs and everything that comes along with it... especially emptying our prisons of non-violent offenders who were just providing a service.
4. I'm for abortion even though I do personally believe it's murder. I don't believe the government should have a role in that choice at all.
5. I'm for reducing military spending and withdrawing our troops EVERYWHERE.
6. I'm 100% against the Patriot Act and all of the civil liberties it has helped break or just flat out destroy.
7. I'm very much hoping that alternative energy sources break the financial barrier to where we embrace them over using fossil fuels without the need for government subsidies.... saving our planet as well as cutting ties to our foreign dependencies.
8. I'm in agreement that the minimum will need to be raised if no other measures are taken because inflation has made the minimum wage job all but worthless.
I can go on....
What? Because I can't stand Rachel Maddow and I believe I have a right to own a firearm I suck Limbaugh's dick?
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