French elections, and France in general
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Quote:Yes, the difference is that we (KIKI and I) believe that French citizens should be able to decide what their nation's goals are by themselves, while YOU have the unmitigated gall to judge them from afar on who YOU think is "loyal" (to the causes that YOU espouse) and who YOU think isn't.
I see you just CAN'T resist trolling, even though you're wrong - yet again.- KIKI
Poor, slow Kiki. I see you just can't resist embarrassing yourself. I said "loyal" French man or woman, not "Putin nut polisher," like you and Sigheil. See la difference?- GSTRING
So, if they're not sufficiently "loyal" (to you and your goals) in sufficient numbers, what are you going to do? Bomb them? Or will you be content to just call them all traitors to your cause?
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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Kinda like our ( USA 2016 ) election, isn't it ? No real great shakes, either way.
I've not followed, save for an occasional headline, here and there. Seems there's some mild affiliation between the Brexit, MAGA types and Le Pen, but not really?
Again, not following overly close.
Hope who ever wins, France does something about rampant immigrant violence against her citizens.
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Supposedly this one means a lot. Brexit did happen, and Le Pen wants out. I believe her when she says it.
Macron is her only real competition. He's an ex-banker globalist that wants to remain in the EU. He formed his own party and likes to pretend that he's a centrist, but he's the charismatic plant the rich liberals put in to face off against Le Pen and maintain the status quo.
The more important election will be in October in Germany. Either way this election goes I think in the long run will be good for the German election. Either Le Pen gets in and puts the crackdown on immigration or Macron gets in and the murder and rape continues.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Is this a referendum on Trump?
Doubtful. What I see is an "anti-establishment" vote. France is wracked with all kinds of divisions, just like the USA, and the traditional "establishment" parties don't seem to have cured France's ills.
I suppose it depends who you talk to on what people think "the cause" of France's problems are. Some, like le Pen, lay the blame on globalists and their resulting migration crises and globe-spanning system of competition, and would like to w/draw from the EU. Others see the problem as "sanctions against Russia" and would like to end those.
I can't say that I'm all that familiar with the candidates besides Marine le Pen (whom I've listened to two or three times) but I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about the runoff candidates later.Quote:Well, we know who France's deep state is NOT rooting for!
Presidential election could lead to rioting in French cities, intelligence agencies warn
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
So, who will Putin allow to win this one?
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Macron and Le Pen go to the runoff. In that case Macron is predicted to win.
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Macron and Le Pen go to the runoff. In that case Macron is predicted to win.
Uh-huh. They've been predicting that Le Pen would lose since... well... before they were predicting that Clinton was going to win and Brexit wasn't going to be a thing. Guess we'll find out if they were right.
I don't know who Putin is rootin for, but I did see this...
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Russian Chief Rabbi Berel Lazar called on French Jews to leave their country if the far right politician Marine Le Pen is elected president next month.
Read more: http://forward.com/fast-forward/369752/russian-chief-rabbi-france-s-je
ws-should-leave-if-le-pen-wins-elections/
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You see here GEEBERS
SignyM SPECIFICALLY mentioned dropping sanctions against Russia as a policy distinction in the upcoming French vote.
To which you SPECIFICALLY replied "What loyal French man or women thinks that??".
To which I SPECIFICALLY pointed out that 3 of 4 lead candidates were for dropping the sanctions. And I later pointed out that those candidates represented almost 2/3 of French voters, and that it would be ludicrous to assume all of those people and all of those candidates were somehow 'disloyal'.
Are you being ludicrous and calling the overwhelming majority of the French 'disloyal'?
I ALSO pointed out that you seem to be completely clueless regarding to what, or to whom, the French are supposed to be 'loyal'.
Because you're calling them 'disloyal' for wanting to drop the sanctions, you seem to assume the French need to be loyal to the US deep state anti-Putin/ anti-Russia program. Rather than, say, loyal to France and French national interests.
But you're not so crazy, stupid and partisan to actually think the French owe loyalty to the US deep state. Are you?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Others see the problem as "sanctions against Russia" and would like to end those.
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Originally posted by G:
*snort* What the...?? Did you really mean to type that? What loyal French man or women thinks that?? I think part of your brain is missing.
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Quote:Now, in a completely unsurprising show of stupidity (better to assume that rather than call you a sadistic troll) you invent a completely unrelated 'point' as an excuse to troll, yet again.
Well GEEBERS
I see you just CAN'T resist trolling, even though you're wrong - yet again.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39375969
France's Marine Le Pen urges end to Russia sanctions
http://www.news-herald.com/article/HR/20161124/NEWS/161129707
1 big difference between French primary candidates: Russia
Francois Fillon, who polls suggest is the front-runner, wants to end sanctions against Russia ...
http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21711030-fran-ois-fillons-win-bod
es-ill-eu-sanctions-frances-election-shows-europes-line-against
France’s election shows Europe’s line against Russia is fraying
ETA
https://en.news-front.info/2017/02/20/french-far-left-candidate-melenc
hon-presents-e270-billion-spending-plan/
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Originally posted by G:
Poor, slow Kiki. I see you just can't resist embarrassing yourself. I said "loyal" French man or woman, not "Putin nut polisher," like you and Sigheil. See la difference?
And I'm going to point out that, as usual, you troll the hardest and most often when you have zero facts on your side. I see trolling as a desperation move you make when you've got nothing.
Care to try addressing the facts, again?
Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?
Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
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I think GSTRING is just trolling to cover up the fact that he thought he could decide what the French should be loyal to. Of course, they should be loyal to HIS agenda!
And that's kind of the problem with a lot of people ... they think that somehow they get to decide what entire (other) nations should want, think, and do.
Arrogant much?
If we just approached others with a healthy SELF interest, instead of deciding what THEIR interests should be ... yanno, figure out what WE need and what WE want and then negotiate our best deal ... maybe we wouldn't wind up destroying so many nations in order to "save" them. And then causing so much blowback which only winds up hurting us.
I find it incomprehensible that people are so focused on what other countries are doing, and yet not be able to describe what WE should be doing. And what "we" really defines.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60986&p=2
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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Our self interests are whatever the goobernment tells us they are.
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Invade Afghanistan?
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FORGET bin Laden DEAD OR ALIVE?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
Get WMDs?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
FORGET WMDs?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
Get Hussein?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
Spread democracy to Iraq?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
FORGET spreading democracy to Iraq?
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Get Gaddafi and free Libya?
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FORGET Libya?
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... and so on.
What sheepherders do when they're bored. And it's not making pretty pictures with LEDs. It's making the sheep mindlessly run around. Because they can.
Care to try addressing the facts, again?
Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?
Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
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BORED SHEEPHERDERS
You see those puffy white things with lights on their backs, being made to run mindlessly?
That's us!
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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