French elections, and France in general

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SIGNYM

Saturday, April 22, 2017 8:23 PM

This weekend.

Le Pen (national populist), Macron (centrist), Fillon (center right), and Melenchon (far left) with other candidates and many, many undecided (last I checked, 30% undecided. That's unheard-of.)

The latest Paris attack may have given le Pen a boost, but since nobody will get over 50% there will certainly be a runoff.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, April 23, 2017 2:08 AM

Is this a referendum on Trump?

KPO

Sunday, April 23, 2017 2:24 AM

Hopefully Trump's thinly-veiled support for Le Pen after the recent Paris terror attack will boost all the other candidates.

The nightmare scenario is a run-off between far-left Melenchon and nationalist Le Pen, which is what Signy is rubbing her hands hoping for.

"BURN WESTERN CIVILISATION, BURN!!!"

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

6STRINGJOKER

Sunday, April 23, 2017 3:04 AM

It's all Le Pen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/22/presidential-election-could
-lead-rioting-french-cities-intelligence/

I was going to say that all it is going to take is one more Islamic attack to seal the deal, but that already happened.

Quote:

The report came just two days after a French jihadist claiming allegiance to the Islamic State (Isil) shot dead a policemen on the Champs Elysées avenue in Paris, bringing election campaigning to an early end and thrusting security issues back to the top of the political agenda.

Around 50,000 police officers and 7,000 soldiers will be deployed to protect voters around France on Sunday for the first round, which has turned into a four-way race between Ms Le Pen, Mr Mélenchon, the scandal-scarred conservative François Fillon, and the maverick centrist Emmanuel Macron.

An opinion poll conducted on Thursday and Friday showed Ms Le Pen and Mr Macron tied on 23 percent, ahead of Mr Mélenchon with 19.5 per cent and Mr Fillon on 19 per cent.

This shit almost writes itself. At this point, since I don't really believe anything anymore, I don't know if this was an actual terrorist attack or just a false flag operation.

Maybe if the far left hadn't had their way for so long and put everybody in the Western world in such a vulnerable position everywhere, things like this wouldn't be such a natural occurrence.

They fucked up. Plain and simple. They had all the power pretty much everywhere and look what they've done with it. Utopia? Hardly. People are vulnerable and they are scared.

Republicans didn't get Trump elected. The Democrats did. Same with Brexit. When the EU states start falling like dominoes this year, we know who to blame.

SIGNYM

Sunday, April 23, 2017 3:49 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Is this a referendum on Trump?

Doubtful. What I see is an "anti-establishment" vote. France is wracked with all kinds of divisions, just like the USA, and the traditional "establishment" parties don't seem to have cured France's ills.

I suppose it depends who you talk to on what people think "the cause" of France's problems are. Some, like le Pen, lay the blame on globalists and their resulting migration crises and globe-spanning system of competition, and would like to w/draw from the EU. Others see the problem as "sanctions against Russia" and would like to end those.

I can't say that I'm all that familiar with the candidates besides Marine le Pen (whom I've listened to two or three times) but I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about the runoff candidates later.

Quote:
Presidential election could lead to rioting in French cities, intelligence agencies warn

Well, we know who France's deep state is NOT rooting for!

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

1KIKI

Sunday, April 23, 2017 4:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Others see the problem as "sanctions against Russia" and would like to end those.

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
*snort* What the...?? Did you really mean to type that? What loyal French man or women thinks that?? I think part of your brain is missing.
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Well GEEBERS

I see you just CAN'T resist trolling, even though you're wrong - yet again.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39375969
France's Marine Le Pen urges end to Russia sanctions

http://www.news-herald.com/article/HR/20161124/NEWS/161129707
1 big difference between French primary candidates: Russia
Francois Fillon, who polls suggest is the front-runner, wants to end sanctions against Russia ...

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21711030-fran-ois-fillons-win-bod
es-ill-eu-sanctions-frances-election-shows-europes-line-against
France’s election shows Europe’s line against Russia is fraying

ETA
https://en.news-front.info/2017/02/20/french-far-left-candidate-melenc
hon-presents-e270-billion-spending-plan/

Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?

Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

KPO

Sunday, April 23, 2017 4:57 AM

Quote:
I see you just CAN'T resist trolling, even though you're wrong - yet again.

Well you've just posted 3 links and are yet to show that he's wrong...

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

SIGNYM

Sunday, April 23, 2017 5:04 AM

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Well you've just posted 3 links and are yet to show that he's wrong... -KPO

Well, you've posted multiple threads and are yet to show you can read. Or learn.

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François Fillon’s victory over Alain Juppé in the presidential primary of the centre-right Republican Party leaves an avowed friend of Mr Putin as the favourite to occupy the Élysée after next spring’s election. (Mr Fillon’s most serious rival, the nationalist Marine Le Pen, has a yet more marked Moscow tilt.)

Mr Fillon’s Russophilia is born of conviction rather than expediency, and he does not hide his views.

And before you get all huffy and say that NOT ALL candidates share that opinion, I didn't say that ALL French people (and their preferred politicians) say that the problem is sanctions, just SOME of them.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

1KIKI

Sunday, April 23, 2017 5:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
What loyal French man or women thinks that?? I think part of your brain is missing.

Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
Well you've just posted 3 links and are yet to show that he's wrong...

I see you're doubling down on GEEBER's trolling.

I'm going to pretend you're too stupid to know better, rather than assume you're too sadistic to do better.

MEANWHILE - for everyone else who comprehends plain English, opinions polls put "Macron at 24 percent, Le Pen at 22 percent, Fillon at 20 percent and far-left Unsubmissive France’s Jean-Luc Mélenchon at 19 percent".

OUT OF THE FOUR TOP CANDIDATES, THREE WANT TO END SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA. The only candidate who wants to keep the sanctions is Macron.

But if we're to believe GEEBERS - AND YOU - 61% of the French support anti-sanction candidates because they are, somehow, 'disloyal'. To what, or to whom, is something GEEBERS hasn't made clear. And I doubt you know, either.

Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?

Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

SIGNYM

Sunday, April 23, 2017 5:27 AM

If I want a good dose of snark, I just need to go to Russia Insider. Here is KPO's, THUGR's, and G's worst nightmare

Quote:

France's Election Canceled After Media Crowns Putin Next French Emperor
Europe should stop holding elections. Everyone already knows that Putin will win

Hey French people — are you excited to go to the polls on Sunday and choose your next president?

Of course not. All French citizens with a clue will stay home and count their baguettes, because they know that Vladimir Putin will be their next president.

This is what we are being told by our trusted media. And when have they ever been wrong? We rest our case.

France concerned over Russian interference in elections amid reports of hacking, fake news https://t.co/P7f2GX0Mpm via @AndrewOReilly84 pic.twitter.com/8otHDtw4Xq — Fox News (@FoxNews) April 21, 2017

"Vladimir Putin’s fortunes may be declining in the United States, but he is still well placed to win big in the French presidential election," writes Quartz, which apparently has double-checked the latest Gallup polls and knows that Putin has the French presidential election in the bag.

Here's the thing: Putin was slated to become France's next president months ago. The whole French election, starting with the primaries, has been a giant scam.

Again, we know this because our friends at Quartz say so:

Why is Europe even holding "elections" anymore? Everyone knows that Putin will win. For example, we keep seeing naive fools on Twitter talk about the so-called UK "general election" in May.

Stop wasting your time with these rubber-stamp formalities. Putin will be elected the next Queen of England. And Prime Minister. He will also be crowned the "beef eater" guy with the funny hat who guards London's famous torture tower or whatever.

Serious question: Is Europe really this fragile and insecure? One guy can systematically dismember the West's glorious "democratic" institutions?

Really makes you think.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

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