we're like, really smart

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1KIKI

Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:46 PM

http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2017/03/australians-investigat
ing-great-barrier-reef-bleaching-second-straight-year

The map above, based on data from NOAA’s Coral Reef Watch, shows areas with varying levels of heat stress. The amount of heat stress is an indicator of bleaching and its potential intensity. Photo: NASA

http://www.biosciencetechnology.com/news/2017/03/scientists-race-preve
nt-wipeout-worlds-coral-reefs
Even if the world could halt global warming now, scientists still expect that more than 90 percent of corals will die by 2050. Without drastic intervention, we risk losing them all.

http://www.rdmag.com/news/2017/03/stanford-biologists-identify-ancient
-stress-response-corals

http://www.rdmag.com/news/2017/03/ninety-percent-predatory-fish-gone-c
aribbean-coral-reefs-due-overfishing

http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2017/02/long-lasting-chemicals
-have-reached-deepest-trenches-oceans
In further proof of how long-lasting humankind’s effects on the environment are, one of the chemicals hasn’t been produced most anywhere since the 1970s

http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2016/09/first-evidence-deep-se
a-animals-ingesting-microplastics

http://www.rdmag.com/news/2016/12/newly-discovered-casper-octopod-risk
-deep-sea-mining

http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2016/11/plastic-smell-attracts
-hungry-seabirds

http://thescienceexplorer.com/humanity/hawking-pollution-and-stupidity
-are-biggest-threats-humanity

SIGNYM

Monday, March 20, 2017 12:24 AM

We are catastrophic for our own ecosphere, and therefore for our own survival.

It's head-bangingly frustrating.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

1KIKI

Monday, March 20, 2017 12:29 AM

none of this is a problem

because we're like, really smart

Originally posted by G:
I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:35 AM

This thread title is like the movie Naked Lunch.

KPO

Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:54 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We are catastrophic for our own ecosphere, and therefore for our own survival.

It's head-bangingly frustrating.

And to make things worse some of us voted for Trump, pretty much guaranteeing that all of this will get worse, not better. How stupid can you get?

Oh well, at least he's friendly to Putin, and Russian imperialism <3 <3

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:41 PM

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And to make things worse some of us voted for Trump, pretty much guaranteeing that all of this will get worse, not better. How stupid can you get? KRAPO

As long as these decisions are being made through democratic means ... ie by the Parliament and Prime Minister, Congress and the President ... then mistakes can be corrected by national consensus.

BUT IF THESE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY PRIVATE TRADE TRIBUNALS ON THE BASIS OF USUAL AND EXPECTED PROFIT, THEN YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CHANGE THEM BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE ZERO INPUT AND NO VENUE.

Who the hell would vote for THAT????

Oh yeah, that's right- you would.

Well, I'm willing to "make things worse" temporarily to preserve our ability to "make things better" later, as opposed to promoting the One Ring which will be grabbed with (maybe) good intentions now only to irrevocably betray us all later.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:23 PM

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Yeah, oops. I see your problem.- G

No, you don't.

I "get" that Trump is woefully misinformed about the environment, as are most Republicans today. However, WE can fight those decisions at the state level, or through civil or legal action, by persuading our Congresspeople on specific votes or by electing someone else later, or by electing a different President if we can persuade enough of our fellow citizens or the worthiness of our cause. In other words, through our democratic political process.

However, NONE OF THAT IS POSSIBLE if the decisions are being made by a secret trade tribunal, which could strike down ANY city, state, or Federal environmental laws because they interfere with "usual and expected profits". If that happens, THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. I've repeated this point probably a couple-dozen times by now, and yet you still don't get it.

Yes, I understand that our democracy is flawed, and that decisions are often made to favor the wealthy and corporations. As a person who has worked in environmental regulation for years, I've seen the Policy Wars firsthand. But the answer to a flawed democracy is not "no democracy".

Yanno, THERE WILL BE A USA AFTER TRUMP. As long as we stay out of those binding "free trade" agreements, we can reverse our policy errors. So you better start making the Democratic Party relevant again by figuring out how it screwed up. HINT: You're not going to do that by throwing temper tantrums and dissing half of the USA citizens.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:21 AM

I don't know about very smart people... I'm sure they all had smart phones though.

1KIKI

Friday, March 24, 2017 9:28 AM

HA HA!!!

Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

1KIKI

Friday, March 24, 2017 9:37 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/science/great-barrier-reef-coral-cl
imate-change-dieoff.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

The New York Times
Large Sections of Australia’s Great Reef Are Now Dead, Scientists Find

Severe bleaching last year on the northern Great Barrier Reef affected even the largest and oldest corals, like this slow-growing Porites colony. Credit Terry Hughes et al./Nature

Mature stands of clonal staghorn corals on Lizard Island in the Great Barrier Reef could be seen destroyed by heat stress on Feb. 26, 2016, at left, and colonized by algae just a few weeks later on April 19, at right. Credit Photographs by Terry Hughes et al./Nature

Note: Individual reefs within each region lost different amounts of coral. Numbers show the range of loss for the middle 50% of observations in each region.
Source: ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies

The shadow of an airplane fell on bleached coral in the northern Great Barrier Reef in March 2016. Credit James Kerry/ARC Center of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies

SYDNEY, Australia — The Great Barrier Reef in Australia has long been one of the world’s most magnificent natural wonders, so enormous it can be seen from space, so beautiful it can move visitors to tears.
But the reef, and the profusion of sea creatures living near it, are in profound trouble.
Huge sections of the Great Barrier Reef, stretching across hundreds of miles of its most pristine northern sector, were recently found to be dead, killed last year by overheated seawater. More southerly sections around the middle of the reef that barely escaped then are bleaching now, a potential precursor to another die-off that could rob some of the reef’s most visited areas of color and life.
“We didn’t expect to see this level of destruction to the Great Barrier Reef for another 30 years,” said Terry P. Hughes, director of a government-funded center for coral reef studies at James Cook University in Australia and the lead author of a paper on the reef that is being published Thursday as the cover article of the journal Nature. “In the north, I saw hundreds of reefs — literally two-thirds of the reefs were dying and are now dead.”
The damage to the Great Barrier Reef, one of the world’s largest living structures, is part of a global calamity that has been unfolding intermittently for nearly two decades and seems to be intensifying. In the paper, dozens of scientists described the recent disaster as the third worldwide mass bleaching of coral reefs since 1998, but by far the most widespread and damaging.
The state of coral reefs is a telling sign of the health of the seas. Their distress and death are yet another marker of the ravages of global climate change.
If most of the world’s coral reefs die, as scientists fear is increasingly likely, some of the richest and most colorful life in the ocean could be lost, along with huge sums from reef tourism. In poorer countries, lives are at stake: Hundreds of millions of people get their protein primarily from reef fish, and the loss of that food supply could become a humanitarian crisis.

With this latest global bleaching in its third year, reef scientists say they have no doubt as to the responsible party.
They warned decades ago that the coral reefs would be at risk if human society kept burning fossil fuels at a runaway pace, releasing greenhouse gases that warm the ocean. Emissions continued to rise, and now the background ocean temperature is high enough that any temporary spike poses a critical risk to reefs.
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1KIKI

Friday, March 24, 2017 9:43 AM

SIGNYM

Friday, March 24, 2017 7:24 PM

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I have a huge advantage over you. - G

Apparently NOT! Because ....

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Remember who most people - very smart people - said would win the election?- G

Well, there must be something wrong with their data collection or their projection BECAUSE I don't believe I was ever convinced that Hillary would win the election. In fact, I believe I pointed out - more than once- the problem with Democratically "oversampled" polls. The first thing to do before putting faith in data is to make sure that it's good data.

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Trump is right in front of us, whereas all those bonus ideas you'll profess to *know* are just guesses.-G

I have no idea what this means. Which "bonus ideas" are you taking about?

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In this world I'll take observable data over projected data every time.

I have no idea what this means either. Everything I posted has already been observed (except the projection that there will be life after Trump).

So, let me know which parts you think are projections/ bonus ideas and I'll find the actual events which illustrate them.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

1KIKI

Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:02 AM

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"Golly, < subtext > what you're saying is so poorly worded and therefore stupid < / subtext > that I don't have any idea what you are on about!

You mean you can't answer reasonable questions about your own posts? Figures. You ARE that stupid.

Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
You mean you can't answer reasonable questions about your own posts? Figures. You ARE that stupid.

Hey 1kiki, the republican party are deniers of global warming. How can your beloved party be so full of fuck ups and morons?

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SIG says I'm a deep state troll.oh me, oh my.

1KIKI

Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THUGGER:
Hey 1kiki, the republican party are deniers of global warming. How can your beloved party be so full of fuck ups and morons?

I'm a registered democrat.

How can you be such an idiot?

Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

1KIKI

Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:44 AM

6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey 1kiki, the republican party are deniers of global warming.

That's just not true.

If you were to say "any given Republican is more likely to deny global warming than any given Democrat", that would be a fair statement.

I would have done a "Fixed it for ya", but we wouldn't want to get your panties in a bunch.

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:46 AM

Quote:
I have a huge advantage over you. - G

Apparently NOT! Because ....
Quote:
Remember who most people - very smart people - said would win the election?- G
Well, there must be something wrong with their data collection or their projection BECAUSE I don't believe I was ever convinced that Hillary would win the election. In fact, I believe I pointed out - more than once- the problem with Democratically "oversampled" polls. The first thing to do before putting faith in data is to make sure that it's good data.

Trump is right in front of us, whereas all those bonus ideas you'll profess to *know* are just guesses.-G

I have no idea what this means. Which "bonus ideas" are you taking about?"

In this world I'll take observable data over projected data every time.- G

I have no idea what this means either. Everything I posted has already been observed (except the projection that there will be life after Trump). So, let me know which parts you think are projections/ bonus ideas and I'll find the actual events which illustrate - SIGNY

Pass! You'll just act the bumpkin troll as you did above. "Golly, < subtext > what you're saying is so poorly worded and therefore stupid < / subtext > that I don't have any idea what you are on about! And / or you'll just try and refute with more guesses and Trump-like promises of future corrections that you have no idea about. Your spin is flat and stale and obvious - needs a major upgrade.

Well, I DON'T know what you're "on about" so you'll have to explain your post.

I have said, and I'm sure you'll remember, that there is much that I DON'T agree with Trump on. I voted for Trump for THREE REASONS, and my view is that the President - whoever it is - has the MOST power over foreign relations, so all of my reasons were wrapped around foreign relations. The rest I'm ready to fight over.

So, what WERE you "on about"?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL