Fake news, propaganda, and censorship. NOW (2022) with a Ministry of Truth!
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UPDATED: Monday, April 27, 2026 21:49
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You make these statements and half the time it's in reply for something someone else said and the other half it's just you making sh*t up again. If you have evidence of me being "snookered time and time again" please provide.
"Russian invasion"
"Russian war crimes"
Hillary's poll numbers.
"Grab her by the pussy"
Golden showers.
Quote:I just thought it was a great idea, so that you couldn't post-edit some of your more egregious errors.
BTW1 - so why are you and Kiki suddenly twinning on "recording for posterity?"
Quote:That's not what I said, doofus. What I said was that it wasn't framed as an admission of what he did, it was an example of what women might let him do. I EVEN QUITED THAT PART OF THE TAPE, WORD FOR WORD.
BTW2 - did you listen to the video finally? The one you posted that you said showed Trump didn't say, "grab them by the p*ssy" but in fact actually had him saying that?
Quote:http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61303
Except that's not what he said. What he said was "... and when you're a star THEY LET YOU DO IT."
So here is what he said, in context
Quote:btw, THAT is phrased as a description of past deeds, he basically says he kisses women without their consent. That would be considered sexual assault. But I don't hear anyone complaining about it, which is kind of strange.
You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful. It's like a magnet, I just start kissing
Quote:There I thinks he veers into the hypothetical ... "You can do anything [like] grab em by the pussy" At that point, what he grabbed was an example out of thin air. It might be something he did, or maybe it's just baseless bragging which- as you all have pointed out time and time again - is one of Trumps's weaknesses. I took it as braggadocio. Bragging about power that let's you do something like that to women is disgusting, even if he never did anything like that at all. It speaks to a weakness in character that Trump would want to be included in this group of sniggering 13-year-olds that he would sink to that level. But unlike We came, we saw, he died *laughter* it was not necessarily a description of past deeds.
Just kiss, I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab em by the pussy. You can do anything
Quote:INDEED.
How do you expect anyone to listen to you about anything if you can't even get something that simple right?
Quote:Dood, you were quoted. In context even. Do you want to be quoted again? Well then okie dokie! Here it is!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61303
'G' Just to remind you - you signed on to the fake news 'watersportsgate'. - KIKI
'Kiki' - just to remind - you make fake conclusions.- GSTRING
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So - show of hands: who thinks the president elect p*ssy grabber didn't get up to some naughty sh*t while being wined and dined in Russia? If that goofy elf from Entertainment Tonight can get him on tape anyone can. I bet it is epic stuff.= GSTRING
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61303
'G'
Just to remind you - you signed on to the fake news 'watersportsgate'.
'Kiki' - just to remind - you make fake conclusions.
You would think we could say we are astounded by 1kiki and SIG accusing others of being the purveyor of fake news. But no, its typical for them to accuse others of spreading or promoting fake information. Why, because that's fake as well ( false or untrue ), and we all know that's what they do best.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
and all the crap SECOND eats up with gusto. Like 'watersportsgate'.
You're such a tool, SECOND.
Quote:You mean people's OPINIONS count as fact, SECOND? No wonder you're so confused!
Originally posted by second:
How about this "Fake News" (except it is not fake):
Peter Thiel, etc.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Quote:There's a lot that I can't unscramble because the authors were extremely obtuse (on purpose?) about their claims.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No... that's California's debt.
http://uscommonsense.org/research/unsustainable-california-the-top-10-
issues-facing-the-golden-state-wall-of-debt/
All 443 Billion of it.
Quote:That debt - is that current actual debt? Annual debt? Or potential debt estimated to occur over years and years, indefinitely into the future? My guess is the latter.
The official Wall of Debt vastly understates the actual magnitude of the state’s debt. The actual wall is $443 billion. The complete wall builds upon the smaller official one and includes the following: retirement benefit debt, bond debt, deferred infrastructure maintenance, deferred payments, federal unemployment funds, and interfund borrowing.
The state has largely foregone infrastructure maintenance over the last half-decade, and as a result, California now requires an estimated $64.6 billion in maintenance costs to restore the quality of its infrastructure. Officially, the state’s unfunded public pension and retiree healthcare liabilities total $218.6 billion. Additionally, the state’s outstanding general obligation bonds ($81.1 billion), unissued bonds ($30 billion) and lease revenue bonds ($11.3 billion) total $122.4 billion.
Meanwhile, California pays far more to the Federal government than is returned in Federal funds. Economically, California would save big time! as an independent country. And Indiana is getting more in Federal funds than it's paying in.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vby1dJlsXmM/VtkJnusdGXI/AAAAAAAAJqk/EQXnfNL
OqT0/s640/fed_spending_dollar.JPG
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Originally posted by G:
'Kiki' - just to remind - you make fake conclusions.
Quote:Despite the OBVIOUS ludicrousness of the story, despite the OBVIOUS problems with it that were discussed in the press, you fell all over yourself getting on board with fake news.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61303
'G'
Just to remind you - you signed on to the fake news 'watersportsgate'.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61303
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Originally posted by G:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-int
elligence.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
A good time line from NYT - it's a bit of a mess without a script!
So - show of hands: who thinks the president elect p*ssy grabber didn't get up to some naughty sh*t while being wined and dined in Russia? If that goofy elf from Entertainment Tonight can get him on tape anyone can. I bet it is epic stuff.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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http://www.salon.com/2017/03/04/donald-trump-and-the-media-can-journal
ism-escape-this-deadly-paradox-and-get-its-groove-back/
Donald Trump and the media: Can journalism escape this deadly paradox and get its groove back?
Faced with the presidency of a master media manipulator unlike anyone else in political history, what can the media do to counteract his dark magic? I’m not a big fan of self-congratulatory essays about the importance of journalism, but this is a central question in the current crisis of democracy.
If Donald Trump has accomplished nothing else in his first six weeks in the White House, he has galvanized the latent oppositional tendency within the mainstream media. The New York Times has repeatedly denounced Trump in front-page headlines for telling lies, breaking a long-standing precedent. Washington Post reporters continue to break news about the lengthening list of Trump associates who apparently had contact with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign, a murky scandal that will continue to unfold as long as Trump is president.
Even network news reporters and anchors, schooled from their earliest days on the job to adopt a bland, breezy, pseudo-analytical neutrality, have notably moved toward a more confrontational mode.
This is without question a big improvement on the way Trump played the press like a Stradivarius during the presidential campaign, and media coverage of the Russia scandal is unmistakably making him unhappy.
(But) Since we’re on that topic, I would encourage both the media and the public to learn from recent mistakes and acknowledge the immense extent of what we don’t know and can’t see. It seems entirely conceivable, for instance, that there was some degree of collusion between the Trump campaign or the Republican Party and Russian hackers. It also seems conceivable that the CIA or other “deep state” operatives are now trying to destabilize Trump’s wobbly regime for their own reasons. Both things could easily be true.
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But as Thomas B. Edsall recently observed in an essential New York Times column, social media and the Internet have radically destabilized the norms and practices that have governed American politics for at least the last 60 or 70 years: “They have disrupted and destroyed institutional constraints on what can be said, when and where it can be said and who can say it.” ... in terms of Trump and the media, the most important consequence is that the mainstream media’s power to define truth, and to set the limits of acceptable political discourse, has been largely destroyed.
If the Times or the Post (or Salon) reported tomorrow that Donald Trump was deeply in debt to shadowy Russian billionaires and had received direct instructions from Kremlin spymasters, how many of his supporters would notice, believe it or care? Of course I believe such a story would be worth reporting, and of course I believe (or at least hope) that the vestigial machinery of democracy would be forced to respond.
But honestly, who knows? In a universe ... (where) millions of people who were not obviously suffering from severe mental illness took the Pizzagate “scandal” seriously, the difference between news and fake news comes to seem like a matter of taste or opinion.
My point is that as a general tendency, the institution of journalism set the stage for its own failure in 2016 ... There is no doubt that the mass media has lost most of its once-monolithic power over information, and I would suggest it has tried to adjust to this new reality in the worst possible way, by anointing itself as a priesthood of enlightened opinion and received wisdom, which turned out to be worth less than the bandwidth it used up.
If the news wasn’t fake, exactly, the institution charged with reporting and delivering it was definitely full of crap in a big way. It’s not at all clear how the media climbs out of the Heffalump Trap it dug for itself and then fell into, or how bes
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Troll.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Troll.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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