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Is the Russia thing even real?

POSTED BY: BYTEMITE
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 19:29
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Friday, February 24, 2017 5:49 AM

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
A real Russia thing :





See, the Libtards loved Russia so recently, what's the big deal now?

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Friday, February 24, 2017 6:27 AM

To be fair, it was sold to a Canadian company that didn't take long before a majority stake of it was bought out by a Russian company. During that time the Clinton Foundation did get quite a lot of donations from a lot of dubious sources. But then again when didn't the Clinton Foundation get large donations from Dubious sources?

Oh yeah, that's right. After she lost the election.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 24, 2017 6:45 AM

From Russia with Money

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Saturday, April 1, 2023 3:49 PM

Two impeachments and four probes: A scorecard to keep track of the Trump investigations

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/trump/2023/03/23/donald-trump-ra
nks-as-the-most-investigated-president-here-is-a-list/70036866007
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Originally posted by THGRRI:


Swedes baffled by Trump's suggestion of major incident

Swedes have been scratching their heads and ridiculing President Donald Trump’s remark that suggested a major incident had happened in Sweden.




Every week there are riots ongoing street fights between Alien cultures of gangster islamics and Swedish soccer type football hooligans wearing patriot shirts


While Swedes spent a few days gloating their Swedistani culture was so special then on April 2017, a vehicle-ramming Islamist terrorist attack took place in central Stockholm, the capital of Sweden, the hijacked van or truck was deliberately driven into crowds along Drottninggatan or Queen Street

foreign islamics continue to vandalize the graves of the victims

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Wednesday, June 26, 2024 1:28 AM

Comey talked of the Trump-Russia “pee tape” allegation

Donald Trump never paid $380,000 a British court said he owed over the 'golden showers' dossier, former spy says
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-fails-comply-uk-court-order-pay-
380k-legal-fees-2024-6


Kash Patel: Paul Ryan Should Have Been Interrogated Under Oath During RussiaGate
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/06/22/kash_patel_paul_rya
n_should_have_been_interrogated_under_oath_during_russiagate.html

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THG
Wednesday, April 9, 2025 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE: Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:32 PM


BYTEMITE

Okay. I took a leave of absence from the board for a while after I got into it a bit with Sig I think a month or so back. Sorry Sig. Haha, I know you all probably didn't even notice because it's not like I'm here that much anyway - I just nowadays feel like getting into heated yelling matches on the internet isn't good either for my political interests/activism or my chill.

Anyway, although there's still back and forth I notice, I feel like things have sort of calmed down around here a bit (Though maybe I'm wrong), or at least enough that I can ask this question and get some perspectives from both sides of this aisle.

Being that I am still a bit of a conspiracy theorist, and I was reading articles that started my mind spinning, I felt like I needed to ask this question. Forgive what are probably logical and illogical leaps around here, I'm factoring in hunches, impressions, and opinions that I feel are pertinent.

I'm going to lay out what I see as the details here for and against. Before I started thinking about this I thought the Russia Trump thing was real, I am not so sure now.

Pro-It's-Real: I don't really like Trump or a whole lot of his policies (Goddammit the hell is up with that Muslim Ban, do not agree). I think he's a childish, shallow, materialistic, megalomaniacal narcissist who swept into power on the wave of a personality cult that he created and on the fears of the same people who feel like they have to go to a used car salesman because they still need a car and couldn't afford any other options. I don't trust him at all. I feel that he could be hiding or conducting criminal activity in his business dealings, and also don't really like his attitude towards women (which could itself be a source of blackmail material).

Con-It's-Not-Real: I like the CIA and other intelligence agencies even less. Their bloody history with manipulation, blackmail, and human experimentation speaks for itself. I despise how much power they've gained since 9-11. You want a bunch of nationalists and sketchy operatives "building a better world", they're right there.

I mean, pretty sure the CIA probably loves the damn Muslim ban and all the nay-saying is just lip-service. It's a recruiting tool for terrorism, gives them a job to do and a nice feeling of superiority.

Pro: For all Trump's talk about the Muslim ban, he's also turning around saying that he's going to decrease the funding and staff for the intelligence community - maybe Trump isn't very committed to keeping foreign threats out after all? Specifically Trump has talked about purging the ranks of the intelligence community and removing people who have ties to the investigation of the Trump Russia connection. I'm all for reducing the size of the spook squad, but that seems a bit suspiciously targeted and political.

Con: But the intelligence community is inherently untrustworthy. They hold back information all the time to make it seem like something is there when it isn't. I considered briefly maybe they wanted in on a piece of the "blackmail Trump" pie, but if they were blackmailing him Trump couldn't make threats to shrink them like he is.

Ultimately we have little information besides that the intelligence agencies think that this Russia connection is "credible" and 24-7 news coverage that says even less. Which in of itself raises questions.

So I see about four possible explanations here.

1) It's real, Trump has been blackmailed or is colluding with foreign powers for profits, investigators are keeping a tight lid on it to gather more information.

2) It's real, Trump is trying to take out whistleblowers and is in CYA mode, but the intelligence

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