Vladimir Putin proposes easing penalties for domestic violence

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THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 12:22 AM

Sorry Jack, I defer to the women who are speaking up about this. Not people who comment as you do that women are now calling everything rape. I also call to question your state of reality after you defended Trump. Even though many of his discretions towards women are caught on tape. No Jack, when it comes to the topic of women, I think you are clueless.

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Nope, six is incorrect. Six is representing the spin that has been put forth by Russia to explain why they gutted the domestic violence laws. Not the damage it does when it comes to protecting women.

So, by this post you have changed your mind and are now for the changes to the law's regarding domestic violence in Russia. Is that so SIG?

They didn't gut existing domestic violence laws. That was a spin slightly suggested in the article and wildly blown out of proportion by your thread title and your subsequent posting.

Any physical abuse that leads to visible marks is still subject to criminal charges. The law is being changed because it got to the point that you couldn't even discipline your own children without having jackboot thugs come in your home.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 12:27 AM

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Ok SIG. I see once again you are posting quotes that you have edited so there's nothing more to say. Except, get a hold of yourself. -THUGR
Is this ANOTHER baseless accusation?? (See above^^^^ about the "years of threads")

Son, tell us all - me too! - what I post-edited. I really don't know what you're posting about.

The proof is there to see SIG. You added words to mine that I never said. It's nothing new with you. It's why I and others say with confidence, you are a troll.

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SIGNYM

Monday, February 13, 2017 1:41 AM

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The proof is there to see SIG. You added words to mine that I never said.- THUGR

WHICH words to WHICH words? Just quote the post that you think I edited, because I STILL have no idea what you're talking about.

But yanno, it occurred to me that YOU post-edited your post, and then accused me of misquoting you.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Monday, February 13, 2017 2:01 AM

Oh, I guess I caught THUGR in another LIE. Again!

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 2:35 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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The proof is there to see SIG. You added words to mine that I never said.- THUGR
WHICH words to WHICH words? Just quote the post that you think I edited, because I STILL have no idea what you're talking about.

But yanno, it occurred to me that YOU post-edited your post, and then accused me of misquoting you.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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So, by this post you have changed your mind and are now for the changes to the law's regarding domestic violence in Russia. Is that so SIG?- STOOPID

My god, you're an ass. - SIGNY

You're the one who condemned the changing of the domestic violence laws, sort of.- STOOPID
I did not "condemn."

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And you're the one who suggests six is right when he says the changing of law is misunderstood and not bad.-SIX
As far as I can tell, what SIX is objecting to is YOUR CHARACTERIZATION of the event- that "Vladimir Putin proposes.."

It's right in your title (unless you post-edit your title).

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Who's the ass?-STOOPID
You are, clearly.

You've managed to consistently misrepresent not only the event, but also what I, KIKI, and SIX have said about it. Many times. Despite having been corrected. Many times. Either you're incredibly stupid, a person who is incapable of understanding the simplest statements, or you're a deliberate liar.

First, so everyone out there knows. Who is saying what and all the STOOPIDS accompanying my statements are not anything I said as it implies. That's you adding it in a way that suggests I said it.

Subjective posts are meant to confuse. This is a subjective post by you. The point of discussion is to present a point of view not confuse. That's what a troll does.

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THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 2:45 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I guess I caught THUGR in another LIE. Again!

Never laid a glove on me.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 13, 2017 3:40 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sorry Jack, I defer to the women who are speaking up about this. Not people who comment as you do that women are now calling everything rape. I also call to question your state of reality after you defended Trump. Even though many of his discretions towards women are caught on tape. No Jack, when it comes to the topic of women, I think you are clueless.

This has nothing to do with how I view anything. This is about facts stated in the article. I think the biggest 2 facts are that a Woman authored the proposal, and they were talking about defending a single mother from going to prison for disciplining their unruly children.

Also a fact is that Vladmir Putin, at least according to this article, had nothing to do with the proposal. He was asked about it and then quoted on his response.

And lastly, any abuse that leads to markings is still a criminal offence.

Nothing that you claimed the article said was actually said in the article.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Monday, February 13, 2017 4:20 AM

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First, so everyone out there knows. Who is saying what and all the STOOPIDS accompanying my statements are not anything I said as it implies. That's you adding it in a way that suggests I said it.

Dood, I posted exactly what you posted, and you posted exactly what I posted. I didn't add any "words" to your posts, I was CALLING YOU (the author of some lines) "STOOPID". It's an ATTRIBUTION. I'm attributing those lines TO YOU, so that people can figure out "who said what".

Here is an example (completely made up)

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THUGR is an alright kind of guy. A real stand-up person who defends what he believes in. - SIGNY

Well, that was mighty kind of you, SIGNY. Thank you for the kind words!-THUGR

You see how I use "SIGNY" and "THUGR" to delineate "who said what"? I could have used "RUSSIAN TROLL" and "STOOPID" or "DEVIL" and "ANGEL" ... those are names, not parts of the sentence.

Look, you are clearly not playing with a full deck. I veer between between being pissed off at you- and feeling sorry for you. Let's leave this with me feeling sorry for you.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

1KIKI

Monday, February 13, 2017 4:26 AM

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That's you adding it (STOOPID) in a way that suggests I said it.

Not really, dimbulb. It clearly is a conversation with poster identification attached to the end of the statements, like so:

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Is that so SIG?- STOOPID

My god, you're an ass. - SIGNY

You're the one who condemned the changing of the domestic violence laws, sort of.- STOOPID

But I guess you figured that out, sort of, because NOW you're saying Signy didn't alter YOUR TEXT and misrepresent it, but added something, that, to the really asinine, might IMPLY you posted something.
You might be an exception THUGGER, but most people aren't nearly that dull.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 5:00 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sorry Jack, I defer to the women who are speaking up about this. Not people who comment as you do that women are now calling everything rape. I also call to question your state of reality after you defended Trump. Even though many of his discretions towards women are caught on tape. No Jack, when it comes to the topic of women, I think you are clueless.

This has nothing to do with how I view anything. This is about facts stated in the article. I think the biggest 2 facts are that a Woman authored the proposal, and they were talking about defending a single mother from going to prison for disciplining their unruly children.

Also a fact is that Vladmir Putin, at least according to this article, had nothing to do with the proposal. He was asked about it and then quoted on his response.

And lastly, any abuse that leads to markings is still a criminal offence.

Nothing that you claimed the article said was actually said in the article.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You keep citing an article but post no quotes from it. If you wish to make your point, do this and post a link as well Jack.

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THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 5:06 AM

Shit girl, when you insert your own words into a quote of someone else then you are altering what that person said and the context. There's no debate there 1kiki except in the mind of a troll. Which is why you and SIG keep quoting fake news sources as real.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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That's you adding it (STOOPID) in a way that suggests I said it.
Not really, dimbulb. It clearly is a conversation with poster identification attached to the end of the statements, like so:
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Is that so SIG?- STOOPID

My god, you're an ass. - SIGNY

You're the one who condemned the changing of the domestic violence laws, sort of.- STOOPID
But I guess you figured that out, sort of, because NOW you're saying Signy didn't alter YOUR TEXT and misrepresent it, but added something, that, to the really asinine, might IMPLY you posted something.
You might be an exception THUGGER, but most people aren't nearly that dull.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 13, 2017 6:30 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
You keep citing an article but post no quotes from it. If you wish to make your point, do this and post a link as well Jack.

I'm citing the article you posted in the beginning of the thread.

Scroll up a bit. I have direct quotes from your article.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 13, 2017 6:32 AM

Rather than make you search for it, I just took the whole post from February 5th and re-posted it here for ya:

Did anybody ACTUALLY read this article?

I finally got around to it now, and I have to say that except for a tiny quote at the end, I don't see what the problem is. In fact, I think what Putin himself had to say about it actually goes against some of the claims of what a fascist he is.

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Asked about the domestic violence law at a news conference last month, Putin said that while he was not a supporter of parents smacking children, the authorities should not interfere in family affairs without justification.

"We cannot go crazy here. It's harmful, at the end of the day it destroys the family," he said. "Cavalier meddling with the family is not acceptable."

No. That doesn't sound like a leader who is looking for any and every reason to have his jackboot thugs knock down your door to see what you're up to.

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The amendment, which passed parliament's lower house on a preliminary first reading, would reduce battery of a relative to a civil offence instead of a criminal offence in first instances, when the victim suffered no serious harm.

One of the authors of the proposed change, Olga Batalina, a member of parliament from Putin's United Russia party, said society wanted to protect parents' right to discipline children.

"Do we think it's right to give a two year prison term to a single mother who, while raising her teenage son, physically punishes him for stealing or running away?" Batalina asked in an interview with Reuters.

Two things to note here. The author of the proposal is a Woman. Second is they are talking about a parents right to discipline unruly children. The example used is that of a single mother going to prison for two years for disciplining her brat.

We continue...

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Supporters of the amendment say anyone who inflicts serious physical harm will still be criminally liable.

Doesn't sound like anything is changing. If you beat somebody, you're still going to prison for it.

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Each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

She said that if it goes unchecked, low-level domestic violence, of the kind that would be decriminalized under the amendment, often escalates into attacks causing serious injury.

Well, that's just it. It hasn't gone unchecked. And yet 14,000 women die each year at the hands of their abusive husbands or other relatives.

What this law has done, however, has allowed the government to come inside of people's houses for disciplining their children. We're talking about swats on the ass and such. Not actual physical abuse.

I think what they're doing here is right. But at the same time they should have brutally harsh penalties for ACTUAL abuse. ESPECIALLY for those responsible for murdering their wives. Eye for an Eye, perhaps? Watch how quickly those numbers would shrink if a potential murderer really thought twice about what they were about to do when faced with the realization they were signing their own death warrant.

I'd agree with rules like that here in the states as well. Hitting a woman make you feel like a man? Let's see how you like it when we let this bouncer let out some of his frustrations on your face for a few minutes.

So what part of this article did I have a problem with? This quote right here:

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Last month the justice ministry placed [Marina Pisklakova-Parker's] organization on a register of "foreign agents", a designation that makes it subject to extra scrutiny from the authorities and can make it harder to raise money.

I likely would not agree with much of what she has to say, or the agendas she is trying to push, but I'd fight for her right to be able to say it. Not only do I have a problem with governmen

THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 8:57 PM

Shit Jack, the first thing you do in your post above is take the word of Putin. That alone shows you have terrible judgement. Secondly, your logic always leaves women in the lurch. Your many posts here in real world have extensively documented that. Below are quotes from the article. You take the side of Putin. I take the side of Marina Parker. I've also seen American female news journalist roll their eyes and exhibit distain when this if mentioned. I side with them as well.

The amendment, which passed parliament's lower house on a preliminary first reading, would reduce battery of a relative to a civil offence instead of a criminal offence

"This law calls for the exoneration of tyrants in the home," said Maria Mokhova, Executive Director of the "Sisters" crisis center for abuse victims. The message is: "Let's not punish a person who at home beat up his family, just because he has the right to do that," she told Reuters.

Marina Pisklakova-Parker, director of the "Anna" center, which also helps abuse victims, said last year her staff received more than 21,000 requests for help from women who said they had been subject to domestic violence.

She said that if it goes unchecked, low-level domestic violence, of the kind that would be decriminalized under the amendment, often escalates into attacks causing serious injury.

Last month the justice ministry placed her organization on a register of "foreign agents", a designation that makes it subject to extra scrutiny from the authorities and can make it harder to raise money.

Each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 13, 2017 9:10 PM

I didn't take the word of Putin. I took what was said in the article. According to this article, he was asked about it after the fact. This means the title of this thread is incorrect. Maybe you have another article that I haven't read that says that Putin proposed this?

You obviously did not read anything else from my post beyond the first point before posting back. I'm not leaving women in the lurch. Read it again and get back to me.

You have a habit of reading only what YOU want to read and hyper focusing on that. If you actually read it, you'll see that I quoted more than half of the lines in my post that you quoted below.

BTW... to further illustrate how you read what you only want to read, the second quote you just posted is a half-sentence... lol. You couldn't post the second half because it takes away all intended impact of posting the first half, as well as taking away any meaning from the next quote you put by Marina.

Here, since you seem to be having trouble, let me finish reading it for you: "---in first instances, when the victim suffered no serious harm."

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Shit Jack, the first thing you do in your post above is take the word of Putin. That alone shows you have terrible judgement. Secondly, your logic always leaves women in the lurch. Your many posts here in real world have extensively documented that. Below are quotes from the article. You take the side of Putin. I take the side of Marina Parker.

The amendment, which passed parliament's lower house on a preliminary first reading, would reduce battery of a relative to a civil offence instead of a criminal offence

"This law calls for the exoneration of tyrants in the home," said Maria Mokhova, Executive Director of the "Sisters" crisis center for abuse victims. The message is: "Let's not punish a person who at home beat up his family, just because he has the right to do that," she told Reuters.

Marina Pisklakova-Parker, director of the "Anna" center, which also helps abuse victims, said last year her staff received more than 21,000 requests for help from women who said they had been subject to domestic violence.

She said that if it goes unchecked, low-level domestic violence, of the kind that would be decriminalized under the amendment, often escalates into attacks causing serious injury.

Last month the justice ministry placed her organization on a register of "foreign agents", a designation that makes it subject to extra scrutiny from the authorities and can make it harder to raise money.

Each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

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Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 9:19 PM

You cite Putin as a leader who seems to be doing this to help his country. Based on what he says. You also believe the governments talking points on this, I don't. Shit Jack, are you so naïve that you believe in Russia you are hauled off to jail for spanking your kid? No Jack, maybe for beating and abusing them, but not for spanking them. And did you notice the government talking points are about the children and Maria's are about the wives?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I didn't take the word of Putin. I took what was said in the article. According to this article, he was asked about it after the fact. This means the title of this thread is incorrect. Maybe you have another article that I haven't read that says that Putin proposed this?

You obviously did not read anything else from my post beyond the first point before posting back. I'm not leaving women in the lurch. Read it again and get back to me.

You have a habit of reading only what YOU want to read and hyper focusing on that.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Shit Jack, the first thing you do in your post above is take the word of Putin. That alone shows you have terrible judgement. Secondly, your logic always leaves women in the lurch. Your many posts here in real world have extensively documented that. Below are quotes from the article. You take the side of Putin. I take the side of Marina Parker.

The amendment, which passed parliament's lower house on a preliminary first reading, would reduce battery of a relative to a civil offence instead of a criminal offence

"This law calls for the exoneration of tyrants in the home," said Maria Mokhova, Executive Director of the "Sisters" crisis center for abuse victims. The message is: "Let's not punish a person who at home beat up his family, just because he has the right to do that," she told Reuters.

Marina Pisklakova-Parker, director of the "Anna" center, which also helps abuse victims, said last year her staff received more than 21,000 requests for help from women who said they had been subject to domestic violence.

She said that if it goes unchecked, low-level domestic violence, of the kind that would be decriminalized under the amendment, often escalates into attacks causing serious injury.

Last month the justice ministry placed her organization on a register of "foreign agents", a designation that makes it subject to extra scrutiny from the authorities and can make it harder to raise money.

Each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

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Do Right, Be Right. :)

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 13, 2017 9:26 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
You cite Putin as a leader who seems to be doing this to help his country. Based on what he says.

I didn't cite Putin as a leader who seems to be doing this to help his country.

You're reading things that aren't being said, yet again.

MY MAIN POINT IS THAT PUTIN HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.... SO HOW COULD I BE SAYING THAT PUTIN IS DOING THIS TO HELP HIS COUNTRY????????

Sorry for yelling, but I don't know how to talk to you.

Maybe the problem is that we're talking about too many things at once? So we aren't even going to discuss anything further on this article until you get this point first.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 10:00 PM

You said this awhile ago in the thread Jack and have been trying to rephrase your response ( thinking ) ever since. You are no friend to women and this post by you proves it. This was your first thoughts about the law changes and why they came to be. Sick and confused Jack.

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Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

Sadly, this is the price to be paid when the SJW/Regressives have had their way for too long and take the pendulum to the extreme. What goes up, must come down.

Once you start calling everything rape, then nothing is rape anymore. It's like the Boy Who Cried Wolf or Chicken Little.

I feel bad for the women who are truly in abusive relationships that are going to have to be smacked around or worse a few times before anybody takes them seriously now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 10:11 PM

Here's another one Jack. Having to sign papers before being able to have sex. To protect from being called a rapist I'm sure was your point. After rereading your earlier posts its no wonder you favor the law. Your own posts betray your motivations Jack. Again, sick and confused.

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Wow Jack, you are suggesting this is some how the result of women crying wolf. I spent years here not responding to your posts because of your ignorance on the topics you address. I am really, and I mean really sorry I started to respond to you.

No more Jack, no more

Nope. I'm saying it's the result of Leftist Regressives and their policies. I'm saying it's because we've practically gotten to the point that you need to have documents signed before you can have sex with a woman.

Call me ignorant. That's fine with me. But look around you. Things are changing. Your little SJW paradise is crumbling all around you.

It's the house that bullshit and backwards thinking built.

So I'll say it again.

I'm truly sorry for the women who are actually in abusive relationships that nobody is going to take seriously until something really bad happens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THGRRI

Monday, February 13, 2017 10:39 PM

Wow, I'll post and then edit it for a bit. Jack has been hanging on my every word and would pounce in the middle of my doing that.

Now we have silence.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:25 AM

Why College Guys Should Be Terrified of Campus Hookups...

http://nypost.com/2017/02/11/why-college-guys-should-be-terrified-of-c
ampus-hookups/

Written by a Woman, at the New York Post of all places......

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These administrators hand out condoms and invite students to lectures by professional dominatrixes, while at the same time holding secret tribunals to punish men who engage in what can best be described as regrettable drunken hookups with their female classmates.

Don't give me any bullshit about not being a friend to women. It's SJWs and the regressive left and their insane points of view that I have a problem with, whether they are male or female.

My point was that when you take a good thing and put it to a ridiculous extreme, eventually you ruin the whole damn thing.

I stand by everything I said in both of those quotes. You're more than welcome to your opinion about me because of them, and I will reserve my right to believe that you are part of one of the largest problems our country faces today.

Once again though, you deflect from the topic at hand.

At first I thought you suffered from ADD or Asperger's or something, but now I'm really starting to believe that you just lack a grasp of basic reading comprehension.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:31 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by G:
Trump and Putin get along well because they both have an adolescent understanding of masculinity. In their world beating your wife is being a strong, proper husband.

You're an SJW cuck.

There's never even been any allegations of Trump beating any of his wives.

If Trump loved subjugating women, he'd LOVE Islam.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I'm an anti-fascist.

Do you know what we do to fascists? Looks like you'll find out, Nazi boy.

That is, if you ever get your drunk ass out of the house.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:41 AM

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Originally posted by REAVERFAN:
I'm an anti-fascist.

Do you know what we do to fascists? Looks like you'll find out, Nazi boy.

That is, if you ever get your drunk ass out of the house.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:42 AM

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/182369.pdf

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why College Guys Should Be Terrified of Campus Hookups...

http://nypost.com/2017/02/11/why-college-guys-should-be-terrified-of-c
ampus-hookups/

Written by a Woman, at the New York Post of all places......

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These administrators hand out condoms and invite students to lectures by professional dominatrixes, while at the same time holding secret tribunals to punish men who engage in what can best be described as regrettable drunken hookups with their female classmates.

Don't give me any bullshit about not being a friend to women. It's SJWs and the regressive left and their insane points of view that I have a problem with, whether they are male or female.

My point was that when you take a good thing and put it to a ridiculous extreme, eventually you ruin the whole damn thing.

I stand by everything I said in both of those quotes. You're more than welcome to your opinion about me because of them, and I will reserve my right to believe that you are part of one of the largest problems our country faces today.

Once again though, you deflect from the topic at hand.

At first I thought you suffered from ADD or Asperger's or something, but now I'm really starting to believe that you just lack a grasp of basic reading comprehension.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4:03 AM

SIX

THUGR's biggest problem is that he's a troll. I'm going to give you the same advice that you gave to me about SECOND: You're just giving him what he wants- an audience.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4:20 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/182369.pdf

So we're just going to continue to veer off topic then. No surprises since I caught you dead to rights on the incorrect title of this thread.

https://www.amazon.com/Campus-Rape-Frenzy-America%C2%92s-Universities/
dp/1594038856?tag=nypost-20

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In recent years, politicians led by President Obama and prominent senators and governors have teamed with extremists on campus to portray our nation’s campuses as awash in a violent crime wave—and to suggest (preposterously) that university leaders, professors, and students are indifferent to female sexual assault victims in their midst. Neither of these claims has any bearing in reality. But they have achieved widespread acceptance, thanks in part to misleading alarums from the Obama administration and biased media coverage led by the New York Times.

If you can pay attention long enough to finish it, maybe we can start a book club.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4:31 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR's biggest problem is that he's a troll. I'm going to give you the same advice that you gave to me about SECOND: You're just giving him what he wants- an audience.

Second is just an extremely unlikable person that just loves to listen to herself spew her elitist bile from atop her ivory tower. You may feel that way about THGGRI, but I don't.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4:44 AM

Now I know you're not supposed to feed trolls - but maybe baiting them is OK. HEY THUGGER! I just called you a troll over here!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61366&p=1#1
024007

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

THGRRI

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4:56 AM

I give you a link to a government study on the subject. It has researched the issue from every angle. Facts substantiated by facts. You counter with a book written by a guy who says the problem really doesn't exist.

I showed by your own posts your opinions dismiss the burdens women confront when dealing with men. This thread started with you defending Trump and his contempt for, and prejudicial behavior against women. If you can't recognize misogyny when it's that blatant, then you can't see it for what it is at all. Especially when you are like that yourself. Why do I say that? Because you never take the side of the women who are the victims. Good luck with your sobriety. And remember, it takes a long time for the fog to lift. I hope you get there.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/182369.pdf

So we're just going to continue to veer off topic then. No surprises since I caught you dead to rights on the incorrect title of this thread.

https://www.amazon.com/Campus-Rape-Frenzy-America%C2%92s-Universities/
dp/1594038856?tag=nypost-20

Quote:
In recent years, politicians led by President Obama and prominent senators and governors have teamed with extremists on campus to portray our nation’s campuses as awash in a violent crime wave—and to suggest (preposterously) that university leaders, professors, and students are indifferent to female sexual assault victims in their midst. Neither of these claims has any bearing in reality. But they have achieved widespread acceptance, thanks in part to misleading alarums from the Obama administration and biased media coverage led by the New York Times.

If you can pay attention long enough to finish it, maybe we can start a book club.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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1KIKI

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 5:36 AM

Too humiliated to deny being a troll? Well - I guess that proves it! By his own inability to say he's not a troll, THUGGER has called himself one!

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

SIGNYM

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:00 AM

Quote:
THUGR's biggest problem is that he's a troll. I'm going to give you the same advice that you gave to me about SECOND: You're just giving him what he wants- an audience. - SIGNY

Second is just an extremely unlikable person that just loves to listen to herself spew her elitist bile from atop her ivory tower. You may feel that way about THGGRI, but I don't.- SIX

OMG, do you see what I just did, SIX??? I added "-SIX" to the end of your statement, CLEARLY post-editing your words and changing their meaning!!! At least, THUGR thinks so! [/snicker]

Well, you deal with THUGR then. Good luck!

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

1KIKI

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 7:58 AM

I'm a bad, bad, bad, bad person.

I giggled a little.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 8:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I'm a bad, bad, bad, bad person.

I giggled a little.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

I'm sure the clown is going to come around and accuse us all of being nazis again sometime in the near future and use this as proof that we are.

What he doesn't realize is that he's the joke, and every time he throws that word around like a 2 year old having a tantrum he just lessens the meaning of it. Every time his little fingers type the word Nazi, he is offending Jewish people more than I ever could or would.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 8:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I give you a link to a government study on the subject. It has researched the issue from every angle. Facts substantiated by facts. You counter with a book written by a guy who says the problem really doesn't exist.

I showed by your own posts your opinions dismiss the burdens women confront when dealing with men. This thread started with you defending Trump and his contempt for, and prejudicial behavior against women. If you can't recognize misogyny when it's that blatant, then you can't see it for what it is at all. Especially when you are like that yourself. Why do I say that? Because you never take the side of the women who are the victims. Good luck with your sobriety. And remember, it takes a long time for the fog to lift. I hope you get there.

The book has facts substantiated by facts. Just because you don't like them doesn't make them not facts.

You're a little crybaby. You hang out with little crybabies. I only associate with strong women who have a high sense of self worth. You associate with weak minded women who need to be told what is good and what is bad.

No wonder you have such a low opinion about women and their ability to take care of themselves.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 12:41 PM

Quote:

I'm a bad, bad, bad, bad person.

I giggled a little.- KIKI

Then I must be really awful. I guess I didn't see this at first but it caught me in the middle of a swallow. Coffee went out my nose and onto the monitor. Fortunately I managed to keep it off the keyboard.

BAD SIX!
BAD BAD BAD!
AND ME TOO.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

SIGNYM

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 12:52 PM

I think the biggest problem with "young women today" is that they've been convinced that getting drunk and having meaningless sex is "liberating". And women have sex because guys want it, not because they want it. Women need to be educated to understand their own interests ... as in, literally, what they're interested in. If they figure out that getting drunk or high puts them in a position of victimization, that might help considerably. Also, taking appropriate measures, such as living with a female roommate. Drunk, young, entitled men in groups- especially fraternities- can be pigs.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THGRRI

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 8:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think the biggest problem with "young women today" is that they've been convinced that getting drunk and having meaningless sex is "liberating". And women have sex because guys want it, not because they want it. Women need to be educated to understand their own interests ... as in, literally, what they're interested in. If they figure out that getting drunk or high puts them in a position of victimization, that might help considerably. Also, taking appropriate measures, such as living with a female roommate. Drunk, young, entitled men in groups- especially fraternities- can be pigs.

You’re as bad and Jack. Suggesting women have sex because guys want too when they don’t is an outdated perspective. What’s changed is that they no longer have to feel guilty about it. Suggesting women are responsible for anything bad that happens too them, (well you shouldn’t have gotten drunk ) is blaming the victim.

Jack thinks that women who go into entertainment are gold diggers. Or instead he’ll dismiss the bad behavior of a man because it’s the nature of the business. According to him women should know that and therefore expect to be treated in a misogynistic fashion by men. He’ll deny this, but he suggested both scenarios while defending Trump against the assertions he is misogynistic towards women.

Mothers and fathers should educate their children to be careful. However, when in college women deserve to be on equal footing with men. If men behave badly then the college needs to crack down hard. They don’t and that’s the biggest problem. That has been reported in the news over and over again. It has also been established that it’s the same men who multiple times commit these violent acts against women. Why, because nothing is done. Jack denies there is a problem. That leaves me to conclude he thinks the problem of rape on college campuses, is a just another case of women crying wolf.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, February 15, 2017 12:41 AM

You won't get any argument from me about frat guys being assholes. I never went to college, but dated a few college girls and spent enough weekends partying there that people thought I actually went to the school. I couldn't stand the frat guys and their bro mentality. I only went to a few of the frat parties. The only reason I was even allowed to be there was because they wanted my girlfriend. They managed to behave themselves, but it was obvious that I was not welcome.

Asshole doesn't equal rapist though. If a guy isn't a) drugging a girl, b) forcibly having sex with a girl against her will, or c) having sex with a girl who is passed out, then it's not rape. Period.

You're at least 18 or 19. You're a big girl now. If you're mature enough to make the mistake of getting wasted to the point where having sex is a good idea. You're mature enough to deal with the consequences of those actions.

I'd like to see a statistic of how many girls that don't get drunk at college get "raped". My guess is 0%.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Wednesday, February 15, 2017 12:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You won't get any argument from me about frat guys being assholes. I never went to college, but dated a few college girls and spent enough weekends partying there that people thought I actually went to the school. I couldn't stand the frat guys and their bro mentality. I only went to a few of the frat parties. The only reason I was even allowed to be there was because they wanted my girlfriend. They managed to behave themselves, but it was obvious that I was not welcome.

Asshole doesn't equal rapist though. If a guy isn't a) drugging a girl, b) forcibly having sex with a girl against her will, or c) having sex with a girl who is passed out, then it's not rape. Period.

You're at least 18 or 19. You're a big girl now. If you're mature enough to make the mistake of getting wasted to the point where having sex is a good idea. You're mature enough to deal with the consequences of those actions.

I'd like to see a statistic of how many girls that don't get drunk at college get "raped". My guess is 0%.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It's amazing how your misogynistic thinking blocks you from realizing what I am talking about. It is when a violation of a women does occur. Which happens at an alarming rate. And that women are victimized again when reporting it. Due, to a lack of support from the institution. No one but you are arguing about times when an attack does not occur. And that makes no sense. It's just subjective crap.

Unless you are claiming most women are lying when they make a claim that a violation has occurred. Is that what you are saying Jack?

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
It's amazing how your misogynistic thinking blocks you from realizing what I am talking about. It is when a violation of a women does occur. Which happens at an alarming rate. And that women are victimized again when reporting it. Due, to a lack of support from the institution. No one but you are arguing about times when an attack does not occur. And that makes no sense. It's just subjective crap.

Unless you are claiming most women are lying when they make a claim that a violation has occurred. Is that what you are saying Jack?

LOL... there you are again using a Hillary Clinton word. I'm not a misogynist, and saying it over and over again isn't going to change that. I love my mom. I talk to my grandmother nearly every day. I used to talk to both of them as much until one of them passed away last year. There is nobody in the world I love more than my niece. I was brutally beaten and literally stabbed in the back by 4 men defending a woman's honor once.

And yes, I do believe that there are a lot of women that are making illegitimate claims on college campuses. They are all but told to do it. One of my exes had a drunk hookup at a party with this guy I knew and called me the day after saying "I think I was raped". No, you weren't raped. You were hanging all over him all night and you willingly went into his bedroom and closed the door behind you. If you have to think that hard about whether you were raped or not, chances are pretty likely it wasn't rape.

What I take issue with, particularly on college campuses, is how when both sexes are getting drunk (and anyone under the age of 21 is actually breaking a law right there), it has become this idea that the male drunk is a predator and the female drunk has zero responsibility for her actions.

Then, god forbid she get pregnant, she has 100% absolute control of the situation. She can get an abortion whether he wants to or not. Or she can have the baby and make him pay child support for the next 18 years. She doesn't even ever have to talk to him again. She can just avoid him until the court date.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:17 AM

I give up. If you think because you love your mom you can't possibly be misogynistic you clearly don't understand the term. I give up because you never will.

Holly shit

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
It's amazing how your misogynistic thinking blocks you from realizing what I am talking about. It is when a violation of a women does occur. Which happens at an alarming rate. And that women are victimized again when reporting it. Due, to a lack of support from the institution. No one but you are arguing about times when an attack does not occur. And that makes no sense. It's just subjective crap.

Unless you are claiming most women are lying when they make a claim that a violation has occurred. Is that what you are saying Jack?

LOL... there you are again using a Hillary Clinton word. I'm not a misogynist, and saying it over and over again isn't going to change that. I love my mom. I talk to my grandmother nearly every day. I used to talk to both of them as much until one of them passed away last year. There is nobody in the world I love more than my niece. I was brutally beaten and literally stabbed in the back by 4 men defending a woman's honor once.

And yes, I do believe that there are a lot of women that are making illegitimate claims on college campuses. They are all but told to do it. One of my exes had a drunk hookup at a party with this guy I knew and called me the day after saying "I think I was raped". No, you weren't raped. You were hanging all over him all night and you willingly went into his bedroom and closed the door behind you. If you have to think that hard about whether you were raped or not, chances are pretty likely it wasn't rape.

What I take issue with, particularly on college campuses, is how when both sexes are getting drunk (and anyone under the age of 21 is actually breaking a law right there), it has become this idea that the male drunk is a predator and the female drunk has zero responsibility for her actions.

Then, god forbid she get pregnant, she has 100% absolute control of the situation. She can get an abortion whether he wants to or not. Or she can have the baby and make him pay child support for the next 18 years. She doesn't even ever have to talk to him again. She can just avoid him until the court date.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, February 15, 2017 12:43 PM

ADD strikes again!

I'm actually quite clear on what the word misogynist means.

Here's the definition, because I don't think you actually know what it means.

a person who hates, dislikes, mistrusts, or mistreats women.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/misogynist

The only one of those 4 that I might be guilty of is mistrust, but I just don't trust many people in general. It's not a woman thing. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:45 AM

Quote:
What I take issue with, particularly on college campuses, is how when both sexes are getting drunk (and anyone under the age of 21 is actually breaking a law right there), it has become this idea that the male drunk is a predator and the female drunk has zero responsibility for her actions.

Getting drunk and having sex - oops. Being passed out and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Being drugged and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Generally, a woman is probably going to find it difficult to rape a man who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally, women aren't interested in being perpetrators. OTOH it's pretty easy for a man to rape a woman who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally men are more interested in being perpetrators, and more likely to find it acceptable.

http://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/publications_nsvrc_factsheet_
media-packet_statistics-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, February 17, 2017 12:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Getting drunk and having sex - oops. Being passed out and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Being drugged and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Generally, a woman is probably going to find it difficult to rape a man who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally, women aren't interested in being perpetrators. OTOH it's pretty easy for a man to rape a woman who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally men are more interested in being perpetrators, and more likely to find it acceptable.

We agree on what the definition of rape is. Good.

My brother was raped at a party. Almost nobody takes him seriously about that. He woke up to find a girl he had no interest in giving him a blowjob. It was a friend and roomate of one of his female friends. The police officer flat out laughed at him when he went to report it and said that "men can't get raped".

He said he expected as much from the police but what really hurt happened a few years later. He and his wife were throwing a baby shower at their house for the female friend. She actually asked him if it was okay if he invited the rapist over. She immediately said "oh my god, i'm so sorry" when he pointed that out. She agrees with him that it was rape... that's not the part that hurt him. What hurt was that's where we are at in society. If it was a female friend of hers that was raped by a guy she never would have asked if the guy could come to the party. Because it was a female rapist and a male victim it completely slipped her mind.

Being a victim of rape, he complains, and rightfully so, that movies and other entertainment are a big contributor to this mindset. He says that any movie where a woman is raped is a dark movie, where it happens quite a bit to men in rom-coms and it's always viewed as something to laugh about.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Getting drunk and having sex - oops. Being passed out and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Being drugged and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Generally, a woman is probably going to find it difficult to rape a man who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally, women aren't interested in being perpetrators. OTOH it's pretty easy for a man to rape a woman who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally men are more interested in being perpetrators, and more likely to find it acceptable.

We agree on what the definition of rape is. Good.

My brother was raped at a party. Almost nobody takes him seriously about that. He woke up to find a girl he had no interest in giving him a blowjob. It was a friend and roomate of one of his female friends. The police officer flat out laughed at him when he went to report it and said that "men can't get raped".

He said he expected as much from the police but what really hurt happened a few years later. He and his wife were throwing a baby shower at their house for the female friend. She actually asked him if it was okay if he invited the rapist over. She immediately said "oh my god, i'm so sorry" when he pointed that out. She agrees with him that it was rape... that's not the part that hurt him. What hurt was that's where we are at in society. If it was a female friend of hers that was raped by a guy she never would have asked if the guy could come to the party. Because it was a female rapist and a male victim it completely slipped her mind.

Being a victim of rape, he complains, and rightfully so, that movies and other entertainment are a big contributor to this mindset. He says that any movie where a woman is raped is a dark movie, where it happens quite a bit to men in rom-coms and it's always viewed as something to laugh about.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Women Jack. It's always about your warped view of women. You're obsessed and you forget we have all had a front row seat watching it unfold. Here's a quote from your pizza thread.

Quote Jack; I'm all about sexy Trannies that want to be called Women. I won't even lie and admit that they're even sexier to me when they're totally passable and sexy as fuck and pull out a cock when they're otherwise completely young and nobody would know like Bailey Jay. (I won't send links like this that you could easily google).

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:59 AM

lol...

You have way too much free time on your hands.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Saturday, February 18, 2017 2:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol...

You have way too much free time on your hands.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

No Jack, it only took a second to find this stuff. Keep in mind there are years worth of posts of you defiling women. Much of it is really, really sick Jack. So don't argue with me about it.

Here's more quotes from you Jack;

I met an intoxicatigly beautiful blonde woman today. Blue hair, curly eyes. I had half-mexican sisters though so I knew she was. She was a model employee, and it was obvious that the only male employee in the store with her was being conditioned to obey her. I was interrupting in the afternoon.

I'd show you more, but OMFG Rape Culture!

Everyone wants to rape my Butt!

My 37 year old man butt.

My 37 year old, unkempt, un Metrosexual, unbleached man butt.

Who wants to fuck my man butt?????

Nobody wants to fuck this man butt.

I thought I had a Rape case, but then I was just jacking off in the mirror.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60831&p=1

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 18, 2017 4:53 AM

I must have really struck a nerve somewhere that you are spending all of this time digging up ramblings of my drunkenness that I don't even remember posting. Please do continue... I'm flattered.

I think somebody has a little man-crush.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Friday, March 10, 2017 12:53 AM

Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

Yana Savchuk could have been saved. But when the Russian hairdresser, 36, called police in November saying that her partner was going to kill her, the officers who arrived cast off her cries for help as ridiculous.

“If you get killed, we will definitely come to examine the body,” one police officer said, as recorded on the victim’s phone, before leaving without offering protection. “Do not worry.”

Forty minutes later, Savchuk was dead, beaten by the same man police refused to arrest.

It was a domestic violence case that shocked Russia in 2016, triggering debate on the role of police in addressing an epidemic that kills at least 12,000 women every year, according to Human Rights Watch. To understand how endemic Russia’s domestic violence problem is, consider it’s about 30 times worse than in neighboring Turkey, which has half the population. It's about 37 times worse than the U.S. which has twice the population of Russia.

Official Russian Interior Ministry statistics point to 4 million reported cases of domestic abuse in 2015. That statistic does not include the likely high number of unreported cases — many women in Russia, and around the world, do not report domestic abuse because of feelings of shame or fear of retribution.

More: Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Others, like Savchuk, lose their lives despite reaching out for help due to a police mentality that largely underplays gender-based violence and a police force relatively poorly trained and often legally unable to properly assist victims of violence.

"When I respond to domestic violence, I often feel useless because I can't arrest the abuser without the victim's written complaint," said Vladimir, a policeman in a roughly 300-person village just outside of Moscow. "We don’t have a procedure of compulsory arrest."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/03/08/russian-police-for
ce-calls-help-battered-women/98914566/

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6STRINGJOKER

Friday, March 10, 2017 6:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

I agree that was terrible, but you've got your time tables messed up.

This incident happened in 2016.

The article you posted in the first post of this thread was written on Jan. 23, 2017. At that time the article states that they had only passed a preliminary draft bill for the new laws.

Actually, without any follow up articles or evidence, we don't even know if the amendment has gone any further than that stage. Has it been implemented? Was it shut down after the preliminary hearing? Is it still in limbo?

Regardless, the events you just described happened before this amendment was even brought to a vote, and happened under the rules that came before it and might still be intact today.

THGRRI

Friday, March 10, 2017 7:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

I agree that was terrible, but you've got your time tables messed up.

This incident happened in 2016.

The article you posted in the first post of this thread was written on Jan. 23, 2017. At that time the article states that they had only passed a preliminary draft bill for the new laws.

Actually, without any follow up articles or evidence, we don't even know if the amendment has gone any further than that stage. Has it been implemented? Was it shut down after the preliminary hearing? Is it still in limbo?

Regardless, the events you just described happened before this amendment was even brought to a vote, and happened under the rules that came before it and might still be intact today.

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THGRRI

Friday, March 10, 2017 7:56 AM

Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

I agree that was terrible, but you've got your time tables messed up.

This incident happened in 2016.

The article you posted in the first post of this thread was written on Jan. 23, 2017. At that time the article states that they had only passed a preliminary draft bill for the new laws.

Actually, without any follow up articles or evidence, we don't even know if the amendment has gone any further than that stage. Has it been implemented? Was it shut down after the preliminary hearing? Is it still in limbo?

Regardless, the events you just described happened before this amendment was even brought to a vote, and happened under the rules that came before it and might still be intact today.

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6STRINGJOKER

Friday, March 10, 2017 8:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

I agree that was terrible, but you've got your time tables messed up.

This incident happened in 2016.

The article you posted in the first post of this thread was written on Jan. 23, 2017. At that time the article states that they had only passed a preliminary draft bill for the new laws.

Actually, without any follow up articles or evidence, we don't even know if the amendment has gone any further than that stage. Has it been implemented? Was it shut down after the preliminary hearing? Is it still in limbo?

Regardless, the events you just described happened before this amendment was even brought to a vote, and happened under the rules that came before it and might still be intact today.

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A double post and nothing?

DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 10, 2017 8:01 PM

Quote:
Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

There has to be a story here. The Duma is very similar in it's behavior to the US congress, and it doesn't do things our congress wouldn't do, so there's got to be a Frank Luntz thing going on here.

ETA: 61 women in the Duma, and only 3 voted against this bill. I'm guessing it's not really what we say it is, and this this more anti-Russia propaganda from the media.

THGRRI

Friday, March 10, 2017 9:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

There has to be a story here. The Duma is very similar in it's behavior to the US congress, and it doesn't do things our congress wouldn't do, so there's got to be a Frank Luntz thing going on here.

ETA: 61 women in the Duma, and only 3 voted against this bill. I'm guessing it's not really what we say it is, and this this more anti-Russia propaganda from the media.

What is it with you guys and Russia. You are ready to fight to the death over the ACA. You criticize every American leader and every decision they make, ( unless it's a Russia lover ), and Russia can do no wrong. They are a country run by a dictator. A guy who kills dissenters. They don't operate anything like the United States dreamtrove/sockpuppet. If Putin says no it doesn't happen. If he says do it, it can't happen fast enough. You saying their "Duma is very similar in it's behavior to the US congress, and it doesn't do things our congress wouldn't do," is incredibly stupid, ignorant and void of truth.

And Jack, the Russian parliament voted 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence. Something they have a massive problem with. That says it all, and is why I used the term moron to describe you.

You guys can't possibly think what you say negative about the United States means shit. How could it when you defend Russia and the way it's governed, as well as dismiss all the atrocities committed by them. Or as Jack does, dismisses them with the simplest of terms, yeah but, as he spews his opinion that defies researched material, facts and logic.

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DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 10, 2017 9:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

What is it with you guys and Russia.

THGRRI

Friday, March 10, 2017 10:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

What is it with you guys and Russia.

It's done suckpuppet/dreamtrove. Another hypocrite, supporter of the East has been exposed through the Syria thread. Try discussing the problems of your beloved Russia. It needs the most work.

When you catch up to America and our democracy, if you can catch up, give us a call. You know, when you're allowed to.

And Jack, stop being duped by these people. They say something nice to you and they gain an attack dog.

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DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 10, 2017 10:59 PM

Doubt it. You ignore anything nice I say to you, or any time I try to have an honest debate, and go right away for the trolling.

Attack away, but baby, it's cold outside.

Here ya go

THGRRI

Friday, March 10, 2017 11:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Doubt it. You ignore anything nice I say to you, or any time I try to have an honest debate, and go right away for the trolling.

Attack away, but baby, it's cold outside.

No, what you do is post as a passive aggressive authoritarian. You pretend to be posting in a friendly manor as you spew out your hate for my government, my country. As you do so you have the audacity to deflect criticisms from the ways Russia and Syria are governed. This, while calming the Russian equivalent to our congress, is on the same moral plan as we are. And you're on record as saying what Putin and Assad are doing in Syria, is just.

What's your response to my allegations based on your own words? Poor me, I'm such a nice guy and your just a troll. Well that's laughable.

What I am, is a troll hunter.

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

suckpuppet.

Funny, I thought you called that renaming thing childish and immature.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

my government, my country.

& your president, too?

Quote:
As you do so you have the audacity to deflect criticisms from the ways Russia and Syria are governed. This, while calming the Russian equivalent to our congress, is on the same moral plan as we are. And you're on record as saying what Putin and Assad are doing in Syria, is just.

I'm sorry, but that's their country. And the Syrians asked Russia for help.

I know the neocon/globalist position is "we wants it, my precious" as was outlined in the PNAC papers. If you actually support that position and have an argument, then I'll hear it. Otherwise, your argument just sounds inconsistent to me, like "Anyone wearing blue is a hero, anyone wearing red is a villain."

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

What I am, is a troll

There, fixed that for ya.

Srly, don't be a dick.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:46 AM

Is it dreamtrove or sockpuppet? It's hard to remember what face of yours I am addressing.

I see you once again changed what I wrote, replacing it with your words before reposting it. What I said was I am a troll hunter. You have the same problem SIG and 1kiki have. They just can't bring themselves to criticize Putin. I used that to expose you.

The more you post about Syria the more I like it. Remember, I led you by the nose to that thread to get you to expose yourself, your real world views. I taunted you and you followed along nicely, wagging your tail all the while.

As I read your post that was collapsing in on it self as it went on, I see you since fixed it, I was reminded of the wicked witch of the west. She too kept shrinking as she voiced her displeasure at her weaknesses being exposed. Dorothy used a bit water, I used a bit of sunshine.

dos vedanya.

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Is it dreamtrove or sockpuppet? It's hard to remember what face of yours I am addressing.

I see you once again changed what I wrote, replacing it with your words before reposting it. What I said was I am a troll

Nope, you said it twice.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

You have the same problem SIG and 1kiki have. They just can't bring themselves to criticize Putin. I used that to expose you.

The more you post about Syria the more I like it. Remember, I led you by the nose to that thread to get you to expose yourself, your real world views. I taunted you and you followed along nicely, wagging your tail all the while.

As I read your post that I see you since fixed, I was reminded of the wicked witch of the west. She too kept shrinking as she voiced her displeasure at being destroyed. Dorothy used a bit water, I used a bit of sunshine.

Lol. Yeah, it was pretty failurific.

But read your own post here. Srsly. You just outlined what a troll does, by definition, and then said that you do that, intentionally. So, in good faith, you baited me to debate and issue, and now are saying that you never had any intention to debate, that it was a trick to frame me for a later trolling by you. WTF? That's sick, man. That's just fucked up. And deeply disturbed.

Do I have problems with Putin? Sure. Do I think he's a threat to the US? No.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:

But read your own post here. Srsly. You just outlined what a troll does, by definition, and then said that you do that, intentionally. So, in good faith, you baited me to debate and issue, and now are saying that you never had any intention to debate, that it was a trick to frame me for a later trolling by you. WTF? That's sick, man. That's just fucked up. And deeply disturbed.

Nope, I exposed you. Actually you started that process when you started posting under duel identities. I'm happy to let the others decide. Well, those who are not trolls as you are. And yes, I freely admit to aggressively going after trolls. Especially those who bash my country, judging it unfairly.

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:

But read your own post here. Srsly. You just outlined what a troll does, by definition, and then said that you do that, intentionally. So, in good faith, you baited me to debate and issue, and now are saying that you never had any intention to debate, that it was a trick to frame me for a later trolling by you. WTF? That's sick, man. That's just fucked up. And deeply disturbed.

Nope, I exposed you. Actually you started that process when you started posting under duel identities. I'm happy to let the others decide. Well, those who are not trolls as you are. And yes, I freely admit to aggressively going after trolls. Especially those who bash my country, judging it unfairly.

I hardly invented the idea. Sockpuppet was a joke. A pretty funny one, actually. Do they have humor in your country?

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:

But read your own post here. Srsly. You just outlined what a troll does, by definition, and then said that you do that, intentionally. So, in good faith, you baited me to debate and issue, and now are saying that you never had any intention to debate, that it was a trick to frame me for a later trolling by you. WTF? That's sick, man. That's just fucked up. And deeply disturbed.

Nope, I exposed you. Actually you started that process when you started posting under duel identities. I'm happy to let the others decide. Well, those who are not trolls as you are. And yes, I freely admit to aggressively going after trolls. Especially those who bash my country, judging it unfairly.

I hardly invented the idea. Sockpuppet was a joke. A pretty funny one, actually. Do they have humor in your country?

Yeah, we have humor and are very welcoming, but I don't like the way you have been posting here. And thanks for admitting you are not from this country. That's a start.

Drop the passive aggressive sarcasm. Sarcasm itself is great, but deceptive sarcasm is not. Like your post in the Coffee thread. Will this thread help me sleep. In other words it's boring, your boring.

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

I don't like the way you have been posting here.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

I don't like the way you have been posting here.

OK, just to put the quote in context, Yeah, we have humor and are very welcoming, but I don't like the way you have been posting here. And thanks for admitting you are not from this country. That's a start.

Drop the passive aggressive sarcasm. Sarcasm itself is great, but deceptive sarcasm is not. Like your post in the Coffee thread. Will this thread help me sleep. In other words it's boring, your boring.

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6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:25 AM

Back on point. Let me repost this and give you a 2nd chance at defending it.

I'm not defending Russia here. I'm pointing out that you would make a VERY good MSM anchor in the current environment of lying for sensationalism and headlines rather than telling the truth.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

I agree that was terrible, but you've got your time tables messed up.

This incident happened in 2016.

The article you posted in the first post of this thread was written on Jan. 23, 2017. At that time the article states that they had only passed a preliminary draft bill for the new laws.

Actually, without any follow up articles or evidence, we don't even know if the amendment has gone any further than that stage. Has it been implemented? Was it shut down after the preliminary hearing? Is it still in limbo?

Regardless, the events you just described happened before this amendment was even brought to a vote, and happened under the rules that came before it and might still be intact today.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 7:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Back on point. Let me repost this and give you a 2nd chance at defending it.

I'm not defending Russia here. I'm pointing out that you would make a VERY good MSM anchor in the current environment of lying for sensationalism and headlines rather than telling the truth.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

I agree that was terrible, but you've got your time tables messed up.

This incident happened in 2016.

The article you posted in the first post of this thread was written on Jan. 23, 2017. At that time the article states that they had only passed a preliminary draft bill for the new laws.

Actually, without any follow up articles or evidence, we don't even know if the amendment has gone any further than that stage. Has it been implemented? Was it shut down after the preliminary hearing? Is it still in limbo?

Regardless, the events you just described happened before this amendment was even brought to a vote, and happened under the rules that came before it and might still be intact today.

So what Jack. I have the events are out of order. It's doesn't change the facts; wow. The story is background on domestic violence in Russia. Go back up the thread. I posted the vote that involved changing the law. Then later on I posted some background.

The point is to show what's going on in Russia. Do some research Jack. Figure it out. Show me what I posted that is not true. Here is the title of the thread Jack,"Vladimir Putin proposes easing penalties for domestic violence." and he did.

Here you go Jack. After you finish reading here go back to the beginning of this thread. This way you can see what an ass you've been all the way through it.

Tuesday 7 February 2017 11.18 EST Last modified on Thursday 9 February 2017 14.40 EST

Putin approves legal change that decriminalises some domestic violence

Vladimir Putin has signed into law a controversial amendment that decriminalises some forms of domestic violence.

The amendment, which sailed through both houses of Russian parliament before Tuesday’s presidential signing, has elicited anger from critics who say that it sends the wrong message in a country where, according to some estimates, one woman dies every 40 minutes from domestic abuse. It makes “moderate” violence within families an administrative, rather than criminal, offence.

From now on, beatings of spouses or children that result in bruising or bleeding but not broken bones are punishable by 15 days in prison or a fine, if they do not happen more than once a year. Previously, they carried a maximum jail sentence of two years.

Spare the rod, spoil the child aye Jack.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/07/putin-approves-change-to
-law-decriminalising-domestic-violence

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6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

The lie is in bold, for a 2nd time. I even made it bigger for you this time.

Three strikes and you're out.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

The lie is in bold, for a 2nd time. I even made it bigger for you this time.

Three strikes and you're out.

Here is you concern Jack

The article you posted in the first post of this thread was written on Jan. 23, 2017. At that time the article states that they had only passed a preliminary draft bill for the new laws.

Actually, without any follow up articles or evidence, we don't even know if the amendment has gone any further than that stage. Has it been implemented? Was it shut down after the preliminary hearing? Is it still in limbo?

Regardless, the events you just described happened before this amendment was even brought to a vote, and happened under the rules that came before it and might still be intact today.

Here is my response. Look at the date Jack. March 8, 2017.

Yulia Bragina and Sophia Jones, PRI Published 3:59 p.m. ET March 8, 2017
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching|
Updated 2:54 p.m. ET March 9, 2017
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/03/08/russian-police-for
ce-calls-help-battered-women/98914566/

I answer several of your concerns including Putin signed the bill. The story in question was posted long after the thread was created and was meant to be for background. Insights into domestic violence in Russia. Sorry you aren't bright enough to understand. It's pretty sad actually.

So what Jack. I have the events are out of order. It's doesn't change the facts; wow. The story is background on domestic violence in Russia. Go back up the thread. I posted the vote that involved changing the law. Then later on I posted some background.

The point is to show what's going on in Russia. Do some research Jack. Figure it out. Show me what I posted that is not true. Here is the title of the thread Jack,"Vladimir Putin proposes easing penalties for domestic violence." and he did.

Here you go Jack. After you finish reading here go back to the beginning of this thread. This way you can see what an ass you've been all the way through it.

Tuesday 7 February 2017 11.18 EST Last modified on Thursday 9 February 2017 14.40 EST

Putin approves legal change that decriminalises some domestic violence

Vladimir Putin has signed into law a controversial amendment that decriminalises some forms of domestic violence.

The amendment, which sailed through both houses of Russian parliament before Tuesday’s presidential signing, has elicited anger from critics who say that it sends the wrong message in a country where, according to some estimates, one woman dies every 40 minutes from domestic abuse. It makes “moderate” violence within families an administrative, rather than criminal, offence.

From now on, beatings of spouses or children that result in bruising or bleeding but not broken bones are punishable by 15 days in prison or a fine, if they do not happen more than once a year. Previously, they carried a maximum jail sentence of two years.

Spare the rod, spoil the child aye Jack.

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6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Sorry you aren't bright enough to understand. It's pretty sad actually.

See. Go fuck yourself Thg.

You say that it was "for background", but that's not how you presented it. You said what you said that I highlighted and posted large for you. You said "what happens next is wrenching".

You either A) were unaware that you were posting an old story before the vote to use as evidence that the vote was a bad thing.

OR

B) You knew that this happened way before the vote and lied about it.

Everything else after that lie doesn't matter.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Sorry you aren't bright enough to understand. It's pretty sad actually.

See. Go fuck yourself Thg.

You say that it was "for background", but that's not how you presented it. You said what you said that I highlighted and posted large for you. You said "what happens next is wrenching".

You either A) were unaware that you were posting an old story before the vote to use as evidence that the vote was a bad thing.

OR

B) You knew that this happened way before the vote and lied about it.

Everything else after that lie doesn't matter.

Look at the date Jack. March 8, 2017.

Yulia Bragina and Sophia Jones, PRI Published 3:59 p.m. ET March 8, 2017
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching|
Updated 2:54 p.m. ET March 9, 2017
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/03/08/russian-police-for
ce-calls-help-battered-women/98914566/

Russian parliament votes 380 to like 3 the change the law. Putin signs it into law in February and the " what happens next" story occurs in March.

Are you really this thick?
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SIGNYM

Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:13 AM

THUGR, did you even bother to READ you link??? The story that you posted may have been dated March, but the event was in .... wait for it ... NOVEMBER

Quote:
Yana Savchuk could have been saved. But when the Russian hairdresser, 36, called police in November saying that her partner was going to kill her, the officers who arrived cast off her cries for help as ridiculous.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/03/08/russian-police-for
ce-calls-help-battered-women/98914566/

YEP! NOVEMBER!

Good lord, how can anyone get so close to retirement and still... OK, nevermind.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, did you even bother to READ you link??? The story that you posted may have been dated March, but the event was in .... wait for it ... NOVEMBER

Quote:
Yana Savchuk could have been saved. But when the Russian hairdresser, 36, called police in November saying that her partner was going to kill her, the officers who arrived cast off her cries for help as ridiculous.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/03/08/russian-police-for
ce-calls-help-battered-women/98914566/

YEP! NOVEMBER!

Good lord, how can anyone get so close to retirement and still... OK, nevermind.
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Wait, are you ready for it SIG. I posted a headline and link to story written in March 2017 after the law was signed into effect by Putin. You post the same link. It was intended as background highlighting domestic violence in Russia. I did not post the incident in the story you quote. That was just a part of the story. How is it you're such a complete moron you don't know the difference? And I quote you SIG, " The story that you posted may have been dated March but the event was in .... wait for it ... NOVEMBER.". So what SIG, again you quote a part of the story. A part of a story written in March 2017. There's nothing wrong with my timeline and I didn't mislead anyone. It's just that I'm dealing with some very confused people.

Holy shit, talk about stupid.

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SIGNYM

Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:49 AM

Quote:
THUGR, did you even bother to READ you link??? The story that you posted may have been dated March, but the event was in .... wait for it ... NOVEMBER
Quote:
Yana Savchuk could have been saved. But when the Russian hairdresser, 36, called police in November saying that her partner was going to kill her, the officers who arrived cast off her cries for help as ridiculous.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/03/08/russian-police-for
ce-calls-help-battered-women/98914566/
YEP! NOVEMBER! Good lord, how can anyone get so close to retirement and still... OK, nevermind. - SIGNY

Wait, are you ready for it SIG. I posted a headline and link to story written in March 2017 after the law was signed into effect by Putin. You post the same link. It was intended as background highlighting domestic violence in Russia. I did not post the incident in the story you quote. That was just a part of the story. How is it you're such a complete moron you don't know the difference? And I quote you SIG, " The story that you posted may have been dated March but the event was in .... wait for it ... NOVEMBER.". So what SIG, again you quote a part of the story. A part of a story written in March 2017. There's nothing wrong with my timeline and I didn't mislead anyone. It's just that I'm dealing with some very confused people. - THUGR

WHO was the one who said

Quote:
Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching -THUGR

OK, THUGR... WHAT happened "next"? There's nothing in the article about "what happened next" (i.e. after decriminalization).

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
THUGR, did you even bother to READ you link??? The story that you posted may have been dated March, but the event was in .... wait for it ... NOVEMBER
Quote:
Yana Savchuk could have been saved. But when the Russian hairdresser, 36, called police in November saying that her partner was going to kill her, the officers who arrived cast off her cries for help as ridiculous.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/03/08/russian-police-for
ce-calls-help-battered-women/98914566/
YEP! NOVEMBER! Good lord, how can anyone get so close to retirement and still... OK, nevermind. - SIGNY

Wait, are you ready for it SIG. I posted a headline and link to story written in March 2017 after the law was signed into effect by Putin. You post the same link. It was intended as background highlighting domestic violence in Russia. I did not post the incident in the story you quote. That was just a part of the story. How is it you're such a complete moron you don't know the difference? And I quote you SIG, " The story that you posted may have been dated March but the event was in .... wait for it ... NOVEMBER.". So what SIG, again you quote a part of the story. A part of a story written in March 2017. There's nothing wrong with my timeline and I didn't mislead anyone. It's just that I'm dealing with some very confused people. - THUGR

WHO was the one who said

Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching -THGUR

OK, THUGR... WHAT happened "next"? There's nothing in the article about "what happened next" (i.e. after decriminalization).

Me responding to SIG.

Who said, "Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching -THGUR" .....

That's the headline of the story SIG you asshole.

OK, THUGR... WHAT happened "next"? There's nothing in the article about "what happened next" (i.e. after decriminalization).

Read the story again SIG.

Maybe it's

"Others, like Savchuk, lose their lives despite reaching out for help due to a police mentality that largely underplays gender-based violence and a police force relatively poorly trained and often legally unable to properly assist victims of violence.

"When I respond to domestic violence, I often feel useless because I can't arrest the abuser without the victim's written complaint," said Vladimir, a policeman in a roughly 300-person village just outside of Moscow. "We don’t have a procedure of compulsory arrest."

Maybe it's something else. Writer a letter to the editor. All I did was post the story.

The real point is I'm dealing with morons with a capital M. I guess I'll hear from Jack next. Sorry, but you two are on your own.

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6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 10:23 AM

You're really floundering now... I'm actually embarrassed for you.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
You're really floundering now... I'm actually embarrassed for you.

I see you haven't read the last few posts or you are incapable of understanding. And that's what sad Jack.

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6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 7:17 PM

lol

THG

Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin's allies have passed a preliminary draft bill in Russia's parliament that would ease some penalties for domestic violence, which supporters say would keep the state from meddling in the home but critics say would encourage abuse.

http://www.businessinsider.com/vladimir-putin-proposes-easing-penaltie
s-for-domestic-violence-2017-1]

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1KIKI

Monday, December 28, 2020 3:31 AM

MORE necroposintg - with a 2017 article no less - about PUTIN!

You just can't quit Putin - can you?

SIGNYM

Monday, December 28, 2020 4:19 AM

Talk about necropositng!

Yep, that's too bad for women in Russia. I suppose that's for the people of Russia to sort out.

How about we address our own domestic violence problems? And, while we're at it, homelessness, drug addiction, joblessness, and lack of health insurance?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

REAVERFAN

Monday, December 28, 2020 4:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin's allies have passed a preliminary draft bill in Russia's parliament that would ease some penalties for domestic violence, which supporters say would keep the state from meddling in the home but critics say would encourage abuse.

http://www.businessinsider.com/vladimir-putin-proposes-easing-penaltie
s-for-domestic-violence-2017-1]

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Look out! The Russian trolls must necessarily leap to the defense of their beloved Putin, like they always, without exception, do.

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THG

Monday, December 28, 2020 5:33 AM

They'd like to forget that the world is getting back together and dealing with Putin is on the top of everybody's agenda. So, all the older Russian threads are becoming relevant again. Payback is wonderful when it comes to Putin.

tick tock

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1KIKI

Monday, December 28, 2020 5:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Talk about necropositng!

Yep, that's too bad for women in Russia. I suppose that's for the people of Russia to sort out.

How about we address our own domestic violence problems? And, while we're at it, homelessness, drug addiction, joblessness, and lack of health insurance?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Piffle!!! Why even TALK about fixing our own problems when we can ENDLESSLY whinge about RUSSIA!!!PUTIN!!!TRUMP!!! ?

SIGNYM

Monday, December 28, 2020 6:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:They'd like to forget that the world is getting back together and dealing with Putin is on the top of everybody's agenda. So, all the older Russian threads are becoming relevant again. Payback is wonderful when it comes to Putin.

tick tock

Oh, baloney. What MORE can "they" do to RUSSIA!!! that "they" haven't already done under Trump?

Sanctions were tougher on Russia under Trump than under Obama. Look at Trump's strenuous attempts to derail Nord Stream 2. And there were just as many "regime change" operations on Russia's border under Trump (Belarus, Armenia) as under Obama (Ukraine). Also, Trump was willing to bail from nuclear arms control agreements. I expect continued regime change operations in Syria, maybe Moldova orone of the 'stans but overall I don't see much changing. There may be more huffing and puffing for the easily distracted .... prolly a phonied-up hysteria about "cyber" this and that (but no real security increases for our elections or critical infrastructure), more $$$ for the MIC for hypersonic weapons ... but that's about it.

If we're so stupid to get into a real shooting war with Russia, it will be a mistake we may not live to regret.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, December 28, 2020 6:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:They'd like to forget that the world is getting back together and dealing with Putin is on the top of everybody's agenda. So, all the older Russian threads are becoming relevant again. Payback is wonderful when it comes to Putin.

tick tock

lol

Man... the Legacy Media isn't even hyping Biden* up to be that big.

Unlike Marco's' claims about Trump supporters, Tiny Ted might actually believe that Biden* is God.

Settle down there, son. You're going to hurt yourself.

The only thing the world seems to be good at doing is destroying society over a virus that kills next to zero of the population. I don't think Putin's too worried about the world.

In the mean time, maybe learn how to speak Chinese with your down time. Because The Establishment loves it some China.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

THG

Wednesday, August 4, 2021 5:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin's allies have passed a preliminary draft bill in Russia's parliament that would ease some penalties for domestic violence, which supporters say would keep the state from meddling in the home but critics say would encourage abuse.

http://www.businessinsider.com/vladimir-putin-proposes-easing-penaltie
s-for-domestic-violence-2017-1]

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